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Jason

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Jun 25, 2012, 3:10:13 AM6/25/12
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Obama socialist designs

President=92s policies are bent on shattering rule of law

By Jeffrey T. Kuhner
The Washington Times
Thursday, June 21, 2012

President Obama is gradually transforming America into a socialist
authoritarian state. This is the real meaning of his recent decision
to grant backdoor amnesty to young illegal immigrants. Mr. Obama is
behaving like a Latin American strongman, who asserts arbitrary power
and ignores the rule of law. He is assaulting the very pillars of our
constitutional republic.

Last week, the administration announced that it will stop deporting
young illegal aliens. The policy shift affects as many as 800,000
illegal immigrants. Mr. Obama=92s order lifts the fear of deportation.
It also grants them work permits. Mr. Obama has waved his magic wand
and converted the immigration status of countless aliens, flipping
them from illegal to legal residents.

The order applies to those who entered America before the age of 16
and are younger than 30, who have been living here for at least five
years, have no violent criminal background, possess a U.S. high school
diploma or have served in the military. The policy change is a blatant
attempt to bribe the Hispanic vote prior to the November election - a
key constituency Mr. Obama must win.

Yet, the order is more than crass partisan politics. It is an ominous
usurpation of centralized power - a naked attempt to entrench an
imperial presidency. Mr. Obama lacks the legal authority to grant
amnesty. He is not a monarch or tyrant with unlimited discretionary
authority. Rather, he is confined by our constitutional system of the
separation of powers and checks and balances. The Constitution is
crystal-clear: Congress has the sole power to craft immigration
policy. Mr. Obama=92s actions are flagrantly anti-democratic.

His goal is simple: to destroy the American nation. For decades, our
supposed betters have encouraged open borders and unlimited Third
World immigration. Corporatist Republicans seek to import cheap labor;
liberal Democrats want to import millions of potential voters. The
middle- and working-class, however, have been decimated. Their wages
have eroded, crime has skyrocketed, border states in the South are
overwhelmed, and hospitals, schools and welfare services have been
strained to the breaking point. Illegal immigration is slowly
bankrupting America.

Now Mr. Obama has established a magnet for millions more to come.
Aliens know they can wait out Uncle Sam - eventually, amnesty will be
granted. U.S. national sovereignty, the rule of law and our
constitutional republic are being sacrificed on the altar of
multiculturalism and the creation of a Democrat-ruled one-party state.
The administration has whetted the insatiable appetite of leftist
Hispanic activists. The logic is inexorable: If a path to legalization
can be paved for young illegal immigrants, then why not all 12 million
to 20 million aliens in America? Mr. Obama clearly hopes to galvanize
the Hispanic community and to build a permanent liberal ruling
coalition by massively expanding the Democratic base. Today, it is
piecemeal amnesty. Tomorrow, it will be wholesale legalization. The
American electorate will be transformed, thereby entrenching Obamaism
for decades to come. In short, Mr. Obama is slowly erecting a leftist
state.

This is what nationally syndicated radio talk show host Michael Savage
has been warning for years. The combative conservative=92s show, =93The
Savage Nation,=94 reaches 10 million listeners every week (full
disclosure: I have been a guest host on his program). Almost alone
among major conservative commentators, Mr. Savage has been sounding
the alarm about Mr. Obama=92s creeping dictatorship. His latest
blockbuster, =93Trickle Down Tyranny,=94 (Harper Collins, 2012) is a must-
read. Well-written and concise, the book provides a detailed,
comprehensive account of the administration=92s rampant corruption and
numerous abuses of power.

It has one overarching, central theme: Mr. Obama is a radical leftist
carrying out a Venezuela-style revolution. Mr. Savage calls the
president a =93fiscal Marxist=94 and a =93new Hugo Chavez=94 determined to
dismantle American capitalism and constitutional democracy. Mr. Savage
discusses almost every one of Mr. Obama=92s power grabs - Obamacare, the
Dodd-Frank financial reform, the de facto nationalization of General
Motors and Chrysler, the drive to create a =93green economy=94 through
administrative fiat, the numerous policy =93czars=94 who have Cabinet-
level powers but no accountability or congressional oversight, the
National Defense Authorization Act, which enables the president to
detain any U.S. citizen indefinitely under suspicion of being a
=93terrorist,=94 the push to censor the Internet, the illegal war in
Libya, the massive expansion of government through out-of-control
spending and record deficits, and the administration=92s criminal
involvement in gunrunning to Mexican drug cartels.

According to Mr. Savage, Mr. Obama=92s aim in the U.S. is similar to
Bolshevik leader Vladimir Lenin in Russia: to create the Union of
Socialist States of America - the U.S.S.A. The president is a Leninist
bent on forging a new world order based on economic collectivism,
world government and an internationalist ruling class. The key to
achieving his dream is to eradicate the American nation. This is why
for years Mr. Savage has been pounding the importance of =93language,
borders and culture.=94 The ultra-left=92s mission is not only an economic
revolution, but a cultural one: transforming America into a bilingual,
multicultural socialist empire. Mr. Savage understands that the
battering ram is massive, unlimited immigration, thereby smashing our
historic and demographic core.

Such profound social engineering requires state coercion and
centralized rule. We must be compelled to abandon self-government in
favor of soft tyranny. This is why Mr. Savage darkly warns that our
freedoms may vanish in a second Obama term: =93We will very likely not
survive as a free nation after four more years under Obama=92s rule,=94 he
writes.

Mr. Savage is right. Mr. Obama is a dangerous demagogue, who believes
he is above the law. Like many leftists, he is obsessed with amassing
power. His amnesty order marks a major step toward an arbitrary
statist regime that willfully tramples on the Constitution. The
U.S.S.A. is being born.

Jeffrey T. Kuhner is a columnist at The Washington Times and president
of the Edmund Burke Institute.

http://www.truthandgrace.com/socialism.htm


SkyEyes

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Jun 25, 2012, 3:10:18 AM6/25/12
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We've had this discussion before, Jason. You (and Jeff Kuhner,
apparently) don't seem to know what a "socialist" is. I'm a
socialist. Obama is most definitely *not* a socialist. I wish to Dog
he were.

Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
BAAWA Knight of the Golden Litterbox
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes nine at cox dot net OR
skyeyes nine at yahoo dot com

Syd M.

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Jun 25, 2012, 7:29:42 AM6/25/12
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On Jun 25, 3:10 am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> Obama socialist designs
>

Still better then your hero, GW Bush's plans for America, ie, total
destruction.

Don Kresch

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On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:10:18 -0700 (PDT), SkyEyes <skye...@cox.net>
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>We've had this discussion before, Jason. You (and Jeff Kuhner,
>apparently) don't seem to know what a "socialist" is. I'm a
>socialist. Obama is most definitely *not* a socialist.

He is.

> I wish to Dog he were.

Because you are as ignorant of economics as Kent Hovind is of
evolution.


Don
aa#51, Knight of BAAWA, Jedi Slackmaster
Praise "Bob" or burn in Slacklessness trying not to.

raven1

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Jun 25, 2012, 8:46:34 AM6/25/12
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On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:10:13 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:

>By Jeffrey T. Kuhner
>The Washington Times

<chuckle>

What, WingNut Daily wasn't available?

raven1

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On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 06:52:43 -0500, Don Kresch
<spam...@spamcatch.org> wrote:

>On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:10:18 -0700 (PDT), SkyEyes <skye...@cox.net>
>scrawled in blood:
>
>
>>We've had this discussion before, Jason. You (and Jeff Kuhner,
>>apparently) don't seem to know what a "socialist" is. I'm a
>>socialist. Obama is most definitely *not* a socialist.
>
> He is.
>
>> I wish to Dog he were.
>
> Because you are as ignorant of economics as Kent Hovind is of
>evolution.

Be sure to let us know when your preferred economic system is ever
tried in the real world, m'kay Don?

Ben Kaufman

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Jun 25, 2012, 8:53:44 AM6/25/12
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On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:10:13 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:

>It is an ominous
>usurpation of centralized power - a naked attempt to entrench an
>imperial presidency.


More proof the ones claiming he's a socialist have no clue what they are talking
about.

Ben

thomas p.

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Jun 25, 2012, 10:25:48 AM6/25/12
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"raven1" <quotht...@nevermore.com> skrev i meddelelsen
news:7gngu75f46cdcmgg0...@4ax.com...
I wonder if he has informed all the economists in the world that all
governments are socialist. I am certain that they would be grateful for the
heads-up.

--
thomas p

Ignorance is the mother of devotion.

David Hume


thomas p.

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"Ben Kaufman" <spaXm-mXe-anXd-p...@pobox.com> skrev i
meddelelsen news:1ongu7d6qdv5tqt78...@4ax.com...
Or they do, but are also aware what side their bread is buttered on, i.e
they are cynical hacks.

Zacharias Mulletstein

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"Jason" <Ja...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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This guy is a lunatic. He should be in a padded cell in a straightjacket.

--

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accumulate wealth, just being preachers or pastors. The atheists can stand
to promise something they can not fulfill." - Yap, June 9, 2012

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cannot survive." - Yap, May 18, 2011

Zacharias Mulletstein

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"Don Kresch" <spam...@spamcatch.org> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:10:18 -0700 (PDT), SkyEyes <skye...@cox.net>
> scrawled in blood:
>
>
>>We've had this discussion before, Jason. You (and Jeff Kuhner,
>>apparently) don't seem to know what a "socialist" is. I'm a
>>socialist. Obama is most definitely *not* a socialist.
>
> He is.

No, he isn't. Prove that he is. The truth is that he's a Conservative
Republican pretending to be a Democrat.

Jeanne Douglas

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Jun 25, 2012, 2:39:37 PM6/25/12
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In article
<Jason-25061...@66-53-216-185.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:

> Obama socialist designs

Please tell us how many times you plan to post this same piece of
garbage before you get bored wtih it.

--
JD

"the lybian lier"

Syd M.

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Jun 25, 2012, 4:34:49 PM6/25/12
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On Jun 25, 7:52 am, Don Kresch <spamca...@spamcatch.org> wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:10:18 -0700 (PDT), SkyEyes <skyey...@cox.net>
> scrawled in blood:
>
> >We've had this discussion before, Jason.  You (and Jeff Kuhner,
> >apparently) don't seem to know what a "socialist" is.  I'm a
> >socialist.  Obama is most definitely *not* a socialist.
>
>         He is.
>

Nope.

Syd M.

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Jun 25, 2012, 4:35:23 PM6/25/12
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On Jun 25, 8:49 am, raven1 <quoththera...@nevermore.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 06:52:43 -0500, Don Kresch
>
> <spamca...@spamcatch.org> wrote:
> >On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:10:18 -0700 (PDT), SkyEyes <skyey...@cox.net>
> >scrawled in blood:
>
> >>We've had this discussion before, Jason.  You (and Jeff Kuhner,
> >>apparently) don't seem to know what a "socialist" is.  I'm a
> >>socialist.  Obama is most definitely *not* a socialist.
>
> >    He is.
>
> >> I wish to Dog he were.
>
> >    Because you are as ignorant of economics as Kent Hovind is of
> >evolution.
>
> Be sure to let us know when your preferred economic system is ever
> tried in the real world, m'kay Don?

If he manages to survive it, you mean?

BroilJAB

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Jun 25, 2012, 5:06:14 PM6/25/12
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Obama Czar John Bryson resigned after
losing control of himself and his car in L.A.
The only good news Obama got out of the
story is that he was driving an electric GM car.

Don Kresch

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On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 16:25:48 +0200, "thomas p." <gud...@yahoo.com>
scrawled in blood:


>> On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 06:52:43 -0500, Don Kresch
>> <spam...@spamcatch.org> wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:10:18 -0700 (PDT), SkyEyes <skye...@cox.net>
>>>scrawled in blood:
>>>
>>>
>>>>We've had this discussion before, Jason. You (and Jeff Kuhner,
>>>>apparently) don't seem to know what a "socialist" is. I'm a
>>>>socialist. Obama is most definitely *not* a socialist.
>>>
>>> He is.
>>>
>>>> I wish to Dog he were.
>>>
>>> Because you are as ignorant of economics as Kent Hovind is of
>>>evolution.

>I wonder if he has informed all the economists in the world that all
>governments are socialist.

All real economists agree with it. Read what those of the
Austrian school have written.

Putz.

Don Kresch

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Jun 25, 2012, 5:38:06 PM6/25/12
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On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 08:53:44 -0400, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-p...@pobox.com> scrawled in blood:
How so?

skye...@yahoo.com

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Jun 25, 2012, 5:49:44 PM6/25/12
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On Jun 25, 2:37 pm, Don Kresch <spamca...@spamcatch.org> wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 16:25:48 +0200, "thomas p." <gudl...@yahoo.com>
> scrawled in blood:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >> On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 06:52:43 -0500, Don Kresch
> >> <spamca...@spamcatch.org> wrote:
>
> >>>On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:10:18 -0700 (PDT), SkyEyes <skyey...@cox.net>
> >>>scrawled in blood:
>
> >>>>We've had this discussion before, Jason.  You (and Jeff Kuhner,
> >>>>apparently) don't seem to know what a "socialist" is.  I'm a
> >>>>socialist.  Obama is most definitely *not* a socialist.
>
> >>> He is.
>
> >>>> I wish to Dog he were.
>
> >>> Because you are as ignorant of economics as Kent Hovind is of
> >>>evolution.
> >I wonder if he has informed all the economists in the world that all
> >governments are socialist.
>
>         All real economists agree with it. Read what those of the
> Austrian school have written.
>
>         Putz.
>

Blow them bagpipes, Don! Blow 'em for all you're worth! Here, have
some oatmeal.

Don Kresch

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On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 14:49:44 -0700 (PDT), "skye...@yahoo.com"
<skye...@yahoo.com> scrawled in blood:

>On Jun 25, 2:37 pm, Don Kresch <spamca...@spamcatch.org> wrote:
>> On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 16:25:48 +0200, "thomas p." <gudl...@yahoo.com>
>> scrawled in blood:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >> On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 06:52:43 -0500, Don Kresch
>> >> <spamca...@spamcatch.org> wrote:
>>
>> >>>On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:10:18 -0700 (PDT), SkyEyes <skyey...@cox.net>
>> >>>scrawled in blood:
>>
>> >>>>We've had this discussion before, Jason.  You (and Jeff Kuhner,
>> >>>>apparently) don't seem to know what a "socialist" is.  I'm a
>> >>>>socialist.  Obama is most definitely *not* a socialist.
>>
>> >>> He is.
>>
>> >>>> I wish to Dog he were.
>>
>> >>> Because you are as ignorant of economics as Kent Hovind is of
>> >>>evolution.
>> >I wonder if he has informed all the economists in the world that all
>> >governments are socialist.
>>
>>         All real economists agree with it. Read what those of the
>> Austrian school have written.
>>
>>         Putz.
>>
>
>Blow them bagpipes, Don! Blow 'em for all you're worth! Here, have
>some oatmeal.

What are you talking about?

btw: you still know as much about economics as Kent Hovind
does about evolution.

Free Lunch

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Jun 25, 2012, 7:49:06 PM6/25/12
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On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:10:13 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
alt.atheism:

>Obama socialist designs
>
>President=92s policies are bent on shattering rule of law
>
>By Jeffrey T. Kuhner
>The Washington Times
>Thursday, June 21, 2012

Why did you keep posting this piece of evil?

Clearly you hate what Jesus taught and you hate being American.


...

Free Lunch

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On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 16:37:47 -0500, Don Kresch <spam...@spamcatch.org>
wrote in alt.atheism:

>On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 16:25:48 +0200, "thomas p." <gud...@yahoo.com>
>scrawled in blood:
>
>
>>> On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 06:52:43 -0500, Don Kresch
>>> <spam...@spamcatch.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:10:18 -0700 (PDT), SkyEyes <skye...@cox.net>
>>>>scrawled in blood:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>We've had this discussion before, Jason. You (and Jeff Kuhner,
>>>>>apparently) don't seem to know what a "socialist" is. I'm a
>>>>>socialist. Obama is most definitely *not* a socialist.
>>>>
>>>> He is.
>>>>
>>>>> I wish to Dog he were.
>>>>
>>>> Because you are as ignorant of economics as Kent Hovind is of
>>>>evolution.
>
>>I wonder if he has informed all the economists in the world that all
>>governments are socialist.
>
> All real economists agree with it. Read what those of the
>Austrian school have written.
>
> Putz.

The Austrians were wrong. Deal.

raven1

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Jun 25, 2012, 9:05:18 PM6/25/12
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On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 16:37:47 -0500, Don Kresch
<spam...@spamcatch.org> wrote:

>On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 16:25:48 +0200, "thomas p." <gud...@yahoo.com>
>scrawled in blood:
>
>
>>> On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 06:52:43 -0500, Don Kresch
>>> <spam...@spamcatch.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:10:18 -0700 (PDT), SkyEyes <skye...@cox.net>
>>>>scrawled in blood:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>We've had this discussion before, Jason. You (and Jeff Kuhner,
>>>>>apparently) don't seem to know what a "socialist" is. I'm a
>>>>>socialist. Obama is most definitely *not* a socialist.
>>>>
>>>> He is.
>>>>
>>>>> I wish to Dog he were.
>>>>
>>>> Because you are as ignorant of economics as Kent Hovind is of
>>>>evolution.
>
>>I wonder if he has informed all the economists in the world that all
>>governments are socialist.
>
> All real economists agree with it. Read what those of the
>Austrian school have written.

Wow, I just got whiplash from reading a sentence about "real
economists" followed by a reference to the Austrian school. You're a
natural comedian, Don!

---
raven1
aa # 1096
EAC Vice President (President in charge of vice)
BAAWA Knight

raven1

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Jun 25, 2012, 9:20:54 PM6/25/12
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Says the guy who thinks the Austrian school count as "real
economists"... <snicker>

Jason

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Jun 26, 2012, 2:21:26 AM6/26/12
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In article <b6uhu7p27jhinufup...@4ax.com>, Free Lunch
<lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:

> On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:10:13 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> alt.atheism:
>
> >Obama socialist designs
> >
> >President=92s policies are bent on shattering rule of law
> >
> >By Jeffrey T. Kuhner
> >The Washington Times
> >Thursday, June 21, 2012
>
> Why did you keep posting this piece of evil?

To let everyone in this newsgroup know about Obama's socialist's design on
America.


Jeanne Douglas

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Jun 26, 2012, 2:34:35 AM6/26/12
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In article
<Jason-25061...@66-53-210-128.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
Then you've failed. Because everyone knows that every word in that
article is pure garbage, completely untrue.

JD

Ben Kaufman

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Jun 26, 2012, 10:50:27 AM6/26/12
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"The two great schools of thought which confront the people of the civilized
world today are Imperialism and Socialism. Although they are diametrically
opposed to each other, ..... "

http://www.worldsocialism.org/canada/imperialism.and.socialism.htm

Ben

Free Lunch

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On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 23:21:26 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
alt.atheism:

>In article <b6uhu7p27jhinufup...@4ax.com>, Free Lunch
><lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:10:13 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
>> alt.atheism:
>>
>> >Obama socialist designs
>> >
>> >President=92s policies are bent on shattering rule of law
>> >
>> >By Jeffrey T. Kuhner
>> >The Washington Times
>> >Thursday, June 21, 2012
>>
>> Why did you keep posting this piece of evil?
>
>To let everyone in this newsgroup know about Obama's socialist's design on
>America.

But he does not have any socialist designs. You clearly have no idea
what you are talking about and are too ignorant to realize that Jeff
Kuhner is a dishonest fraud. If you were even remotely honest, you would
reject the lies of this article. Clearly you hate what Jesus taught and
you hate the United States of America.

Don Kresch

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On Tue, 26 Jun 2012 10:50:27 -0400, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-p...@pobox.com> scrawled in blood:

>On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 16:38:06 -0500, Don Kresch <spam...@spamcatch.org> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 08:53:44 -0400, Ben Kaufman
>><spaXm-mXe-anXd-p...@pobox.com> scrawled in blood:
>>
>>>On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:10:13 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>>>
>>>>It is an ominous
>>>>usurpation of centralized power - a naked attempt to entrench an
>>>>imperial presidency.
>>>
>>>
>>>More proof the ones claiming he's a socialist have no clue what they are talking
>>>about.
>>
>> How so?

>"The two great schools of thought which confront the people of the civilized
>world today are Imperialism and Socialism. Although they are diametrically
>opposed to each other, ..... "

Socialism can be imperialistic. Plus: they are both statist
ideas.

Father Haskell

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Jun 26, 2012, 6:47:01 PM6/26/12
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On Jun 25, 3:10 am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> Obama socialist designs

Postings like that pretty much prove that Obama's got
someone scared. Keep up the good work, Mr. President.

Free Lunch

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On Tue, 26 Jun 2012 17:44:27 -0500, Don Kresch <spam...@spamcatch.org>
wrote in alt.atheism:

>On Tue, 26 Jun 2012 10:50:27 -0400, Ben Kaufman
><spaXm-mXe-anXd-p...@pobox.com> scrawled in blood:
>
>>On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 16:38:06 -0500, Don Kresch <spam...@spamcatch.org> wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 08:53:44 -0400, Ben Kaufman
>>><spaXm-mXe-anXd-p...@pobox.com> scrawled in blood:
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:10:13 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>It is an ominous
>>>>>usurpation of centralized power - a naked attempt to entrench an
>>>>>imperial presidency.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>More proof the ones claiming he's a socialist have no clue what they are talking
>>>>about.
>>>
>>> How so?
>
>>"The two great schools of thought which confront the people of the civilized
>>world today are Imperialism and Socialism. Although they are diametrically
>>opposed to each other, ..... "
>
> Socialism can be imperialistic. Plus: they are both statist
>ideas.

Randriod Corporatism is even worse than statism.

Father Haskell

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On Jun 26, 6:51 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Jun 2012 17:44:27 -0500, Don Kresch <spamca...@spamcatch.org>
> wrote in alt.atheism:
>
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> >On Tue, 26 Jun 2012 10:50:27 -0400, Ben Kaufman
> ><spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-doll...@pobox.com> scrawled in blood:
>
> >>On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 16:38:06 -0500, Don Kresch <spamca...@spamcatch.org> wrote:
>
> >>>On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 08:53:44 -0400, Ben Kaufman
> >>><spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-doll...@pobox.com> scrawled in blood:
>
> >>>>On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:10:13 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
> >>>>>It is an ominous
> >>>>>usurpation of centralized power - a naked attempt to entrench an
> >>>>>imperial presidency.
>
> >>>>More proof the ones claiming he's a socialist have no clue what they are talking
> >>>>about.
>
> >>>    How so?
>
> >>"The two great schools of thought which confront the people of the civilized
> >>world today are Imperialism and Socialism. Although they are diametrically
> >>opposed to each other, ..... "
>
> >    Socialism can be imperialistic. Plus: they are both statist
> >ideas.
>
> Randriod Corporatism is even worse than statism.

Romney owns more property than Versailles. Nothing will bring
us communism faster than electing (or shoehorning in) the
second coming of Louis XVI and Marie Antoinette.

Jeanne Douglas

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It's already here:

<http://maddowblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/06/21/12345961-that-wealth-
inequality-chart-rachel-showed-last-night?lite>

The bottom graph is what the American people think would be a fair
distribution, the middle one what they think we have now, and the top
one the reality. That top graph needs to be shouted from the
mountaintops until there is nobody, not even the worst Fox-zombies,
who doesn't know it.

JD

Jason

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Jun 27, 2012, 2:26:41 AM6/27/12
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In article <9kdku7tbul3l4g3ru...@4ax.com>, Free Lunch
<lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:

> On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 23:21:26 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> alt.atheism:
>
> >In article <b6uhu7p27jhinufup...@4ax.com>, Free Lunch
> ><lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:10:13 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> >> alt.atheism:
> >>
> >> >Obama socialist designs
> >> >
> >> >President=92s policies are bent on shattering rule of law
> >> >
> >> >By Jeffrey T. Kuhner
> >> >The Washington Times
> >> >Thursday, June 21, 2012
> >>
> >> Why did you keep posting this piece of evil?
> >
> >To let everyone in this newsgroup know about Obama's socialist's design on
> >America.
>
> But he does not have any socialist designs. You clearly have no idea
> what you are talking about and are too ignorant to realize that Jeff
> Kuhner is a dishonest fraud. If you were even remotely honest, you would
> reject the lies of this article. Clearly you hate what Jesus taught and
> you hate the United States of America.

Stanley Kurtz wrote an article that proves that Obama was once a member of
a political party called "The New Party". It's a socialist political
party.


Jeanne Douglas

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Jun 27, 2012, 3:01:13 AM6/27/12
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In article
<Jason-26061...@67-150-127-212.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
Even if it's true, so what?

thomas p.

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"Jeanne Douglas" <hlw...@NOSPAMpacbell.net> skrev i meddelelsen
news:hlwdjsd-AF838E...@5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com...
And then we have Jason's standards for calling something proved.


>
> --
> JD
>
> "the lybian lier"



--
thomas p

Ignorance is the mother of devotion.

David Hume


Ben Kaufman

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On Tue, 26 Jun 2012 17:44:27 -0500, Don Kresch <spam...@spamcatch.org> wrote:

>On Tue, 26 Jun 2012 10:50:27 -0400, Ben Kaufman
><spaXm-mXe-anXd-p...@pobox.com> scrawled in blood:
>
>>On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 16:38:06 -0500, Don Kresch <spam...@spamcatch.org> wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 08:53:44 -0400, Ben Kaufman
>>><spaXm-mXe-anXd-p...@pobox.com> scrawled in blood:
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:10:13 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>It is an ominous
>>>>>usurpation of centralized power - a naked attempt to entrench an
>>>>>imperial presidency.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>More proof the ones claiming he's a socialist have no clue what they are talking
>>>>about.
>>>
>>> How so?
>
>>"The two great schools of thought which confront the people of the civilized
>>world today are Imperialism and Socialism. Although they are diametrically
>>opposed to each other, ..... "
>
> Socialism can be imperialistic. Plus: they are both statist
>ideas.
>

Not within the above context.

Ben Kaufman

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Jun 27, 2012, 11:26:20 AM6/27/12
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The socialists say that Obama is not a socialist.

tirebiter

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Jun 27, 2012, 11:23:19 AM6/27/12
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On Jun 25, 3:10 am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> Obama socialist designs
>
> President=92s policies are bent on shattering rule of law
>

Hey liar Jason. Remember when you were asked to name A SINGLE
socialist program you were opposed to and you COULDN'T DO IT?

Why do you lie all the time?

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a.a. #2273

Ben Kaufman

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Jun 27, 2012, 11:28:05 AM6/27/12
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Like the one about Obama's mom sneaking out of Kenya to forge a U.S. birth
certificate?

Christopher A. Lee

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Jun 27, 2012, 11:29:19 AM6/27/12
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Because she knew he was going to be a US Presidential candidate a few
decades later.

tirebiter

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Jun 27, 2012, 11:39:22 AM6/27/12
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On Jun 26, 2:34 am, Jeanne Douglas <hlwdj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article
> <Jason-2506122321270...@66-53-210-128.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > In article <b6uhu7p27jhinufupst6mpvfrsfm1m7...@4ax.com>, Free Lunch
> > <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>
> > > On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:10:13 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > > alt.atheism:
>
> > > >Obama socialist designs
>
> > > >President=92s policies are bent on shattering rule of law
>
> > > >By Jeffrey T. Kuhner
> > > >The Washington Times
> > > >Thursday, June 21, 2012
>
> > > Why did you keep posting this piece of evil?
>
> > To let everyone in this newsgroup know about Obama's socialist's design on
> > America.
>
> Then you've failed. Because everyone knows that every word in that
> article is pure garbage, completely untrue.
>
> JD

It's the claim that a reverse psychology trick is being performed.

Sort of like how ICE under Obama has deported more illegal immigrants
than any previous administration means he's soft on immigration.
Or not pursing stricter gun control is a sure sign Obama is trying to
repeal the 2nd Amendment (which is impossible).

Funny that his latest decision to relax deportation on young,
productive law abiding immigrants is essentially "The Dream Act",
which the GOP was fully in favor of 10 years ago (at least they were
until they weren't).

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a.a. #2273

thomas p.

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"Ben Kaufman" <spaXm-mXe-anXd-p...@pobox.com> skrev i
meddelelsen news:hh9mu7dghd37dp4sl...@4ax.com...
Wasn't that amazing? What's more the forgery was later supported by a
Republican governor. The conspiracy is huge!!!!!!!

Jason

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Jun 27, 2012, 2:24:30 PM6/27/12
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In article <hlwdjsd-AF838E...@5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com>, Jeanne
It may NOT be important to you but is important to the conservatives that
do NOT want America to ever become a socialist country. Obama appears to
me to be trying to make America into a socialist country.


Jason

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Jun 27, 2012, 2:26:00 PM6/27/12
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In article <4feaedc4$0$278$edfa...@dtext01.news.tele.dk>, "thomas p."
Feel free to prove that Obama never was a member of a socialist political

Jason

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Jun 27, 2012, 2:29:51 PM6/27/12
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In article <hh9mu7dghd37dp4sl...@4ax.com>, Ben Kaufman
OK--Obama proved that I was not correct about that story.

I now challenge you to prove that I am not correct about Obama ever being
a member of a socialist political party called "The New Party".


Jason

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Jun 27, 2012, 2:33:33 PM6/27/12
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In article <mk9mu7pjd14bpqram...@4ax.com>, Christopher A.
NO--We believed the reason for that action was to make her son (Obama)
into a legal citizen of America. Lot's of women from Mexico do the same
kind of thing. They come to America to have their babies since they know
that will mean their babies will become legal citizens of America.


Jason

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Jun 27, 2012, 2:34:55 PM6/27/12
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In article <1g9mu7lu1obopf1ae...@4ax.com>, Ben Kaufman
Of couse they do--they don't want Americans to know the truth.


Syd M.

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On Jun 27, 2:24 pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article <hlwdjsd-AF838E.00011327062...@5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com>, Jeanne
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMpacbell.net> wrote:
> > In article
> > <Jason-2606122326420...@67-150-127-212.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> >  Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
> > > In article <9kdku7tbul3l4g3rula6e9l1te974rh...@4ax.com>, Free Lunch
> > > <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>
> > > > On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 23:21:26 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > > > alt.atheism:
>
> > > > >In article <b6uhu7p27jhinufupst6mpvfrsfm1m7...@4ax.com>, Free Lunch
> > > > ><lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>
> > > > >> On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:10:13 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > > > >> alt.atheism:
>
> > > > >> >Obama socialist designs
>
> > > > >> >President=92s policies are bent on shattering rule of law
>
> > > > >> >By Jeffrey T. Kuhner
> > > > >> >The Washington Times
> > > > >> >Thursday, June 21, 2012
>
> > > > >> Why did you keep posting this piece of evil?
>
> > > > >To let everyone in this newsgroup know about Obama's socialist's
> design on
> > > > >America.
>
> > > > But he does not have any socialist designs. You clearly have no idea
> > > > what you are talking about and are too ignorant to realize that Jeff
> > > > Kuhner is a dishonest fraud. If you were even remotely honest, you would
> > > > reject the lies of this article. Clearly you hate what Jesus taught and
> > > > you hate the United States of America.
>
> > > Stanley Kurtz wrote an article that proves that Obama was once a member of
> > > a political party called "The New Party". It's a socialist political
> > > party.
>
> > Even if it's true, so what?
>
> It may NOT be important to you but is important to the conservatives that
> do NOT want America to ever become a socialist country. Obama appears to
> me to be trying to make America into a socialist country.

And you continue to be wrong, loser.

Syd M.

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Jun 27, 2012, 4:36:23 PM6/27/12
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On Jun 27, 2:33 pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article <mk9mu7pjd14bpqramf58u67ve4vaakd...@4ax.com>, Christopher A.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Lee <chrislee95...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 11:28:05 -0400, Ben Kaufman
> > <spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-doll...@pobox.com> wrote:
>
> > >On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 13:25:57 +0200, "thomas p." <gudl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > >>"Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMpacbell.net> skrev i meddelelsen
> > >>news:hlwdjsd-AF838E...@5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com...
> > >>> In article
> > >>> <Jason-2606122326420...@67-150-127-212.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> > >>> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
> > >>>> In article <9kdku7tbul3l4g3rula6e9l1te974rh...@4ax.com>, Free Lunch
> > >>>> <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>
> > >>>> > On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 23:21:26 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > >>>> > alt.atheism:
>
> > >>>> > >In article <b6uhu7p27jhinufupst6mpvfrsfm1m7...@4ax.com>, Free Lunch
Since it didn't happen, that is irrelevent.

Syd M.

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Jun 27, 2012, 4:35:42 PM6/27/12
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On Jun 27, 2:34 pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article <1g9mu7lu1obopf1aen3k8ku22kjlc11...@4ax.com>, Ben Kaufman
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-doll...@pobox.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, 26 Jun 2012 23:26:41 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
> > >In article <9kdku7tbul3l4g3rula6e9l1te974rh...@4ax.com>, Free Lunch
> > ><lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>
> > >> On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 23:21:26 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > >> alt.atheism:
>
> > >> >In article <b6uhu7p27jhinufupst6mpvfrsfm1m7...@4ax.com>, Free Lunch
> > >> ><lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>
> > >> >> On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:10:13 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > >> >> alt.atheism:
>
> > >> >> >Obama socialist designs
>
> > >> >> >President=92s policies are bent on shattering rule of law
>
> > >> >> >By Jeffrey T. Kuhner
> > >> >> >The Washington Times
> > >> >> >Thursday, June 21, 2012
>
> > >> >> Why did you keep posting this piece of evil?
>
> > >> >To let everyone in this newsgroup know about Obama's socialist's design on
> > >> >America.
>
> > >> But he does not have any socialist designs. You clearly have no idea
> > >> what you are talking about and are too ignorant to realize that Jeff
> > >> Kuhner is a dishonest fraud. If you were even remotely honest, you would
> > >> reject the lies of this article. Clearly you hate what Jesus taught and
> > >> you hate the United States of America.
>
> > >Stanley Kurtz wrote an article that proves that Obama was once a member of
> > >a political party called "The New Party". It's a socialist political
> > >party.
>
> > The socialists say that Obama is not a socialist.
>
> Of couse they do--they don't want Americans to know the truth.

And you continue to be WRONG.

Jason

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Jun 27, 2012, 5:14:01 PM6/27/12
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In article
<c609117c-0ad9-4e1c...@m8g2000yqo.googlegroups.com>, "Syd
M." <pauldav...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Jun 27, 2:24=A0pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > In article <hlwdjsd-AF838E.00011327062...@5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com>, Jeanne
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMpacbell.net> wrote:
> > > In article
> > > <Jason-2606122326420...@67-150-127-212.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> > > =A0Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> >
> > > > In article <9kdku7tbul3l4g3rula6e9l1te974rh...@4ax.com>, Free Lunch
> > > > <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >
> > > > > On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 23:21:26 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote =
> in
> > > > > alt.atheism:
> >
> > > > > >In article <b6uhu7p27jhinufupst6mpvfrsfm1m7...@4ax.com>, Free Lunc=
> h
> > > > > ><lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >
> > > > > >> On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:10:13 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wro=
> te in
> > > > > >> alt.atheism:
> >
> > > > > >> >Obama socialist designs
> >
> > > > > >> >President=3D92s policies are bent on shattering rule of law
> >
> > > > > >> >By Jeffrey T. Kuhner
> > > > > >> >The Washington Times
> > > > > >> >Thursday, June 21, 2012
> >
> > > > > >> Why did you keep posting this piece of evil?
> >
> > > > > >To let everyone in this newsgroup know about Obama's socialist's
> > design on
> > > > > >America.
> >
> > > > > But he does not have any socialist designs. You clearly have no ide=
> a
> > > > > what you are talking about and are too ignorant to realize that Jef=
> f
> > > > > Kuhner is a dishonest fraud. If you were even remotely honest, you =
> would
> > > > > reject the lies of this article. Clearly you hate what Jesus taught=
> and
> > > > > you hate the United States of America.
> >
> > > > Stanley Kurtz wrote an article that proves that Obama was once a memb=
> er of
> > > > a political party called "The New Party". It's a socialist political
> > > > party.
> >
> > > Even if it's true, so what?
> >
> > It may NOT be important to you but is important to the conservatives that
> > do NOT want America to ever become a socialist country. Obama appears to
> > me to be trying to make America into a socialist country.
>
> And you continue to be wrong, loser.

ObamaCare is clearly a socialist program. The federal gov't will control
it. It is called socialized medicine.


Jason

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Jun 27, 2012, 5:16:13 PM6/27/12
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In article
<b9c2ceee-c121-4752...@l32g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, "Syd
M." <pauldav...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Jun 27, 2:34=A0pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > In article <1g9mu7lu1obopf1aen3k8ku22kjlc11...@4ax.com>, Ben Kaufman
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > <spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-doll...@pobox.com> wrote:
> > > On Tue, 26 Jun 2012 23:26:41 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> >
> > > >In article <9kdku7tbul3l4g3rula6e9l1te974rh...@4ax.com>, Free Lunch
> > > ><lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >
> > > >> On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 23:21:26 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote i=
> n
> > > >> alt.atheism:
> >
> > > >> >In article <b6uhu7p27jhinufupst6mpvfrsfm1m7...@4ax.com>, Free Lunch
> > > >> ><lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >
> > > >> >> On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:10:13 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrot=
> e in
> > > >> >> alt.atheism:
> >
> > > >> >> >Obama socialist designs
> >
> > > >> >> >President=3D92s policies are bent on shattering rule of law
> >
> > > >> >> >By Jeffrey T. Kuhner
> > > >> >> >The Washington Times
> > > >> >> >Thursday, June 21, 2012
> >
> > > >> >> Why did you keep posting this piece of evil?
> >
> > > >> >To let everyone in this newsgroup know about Obama's socialist's de=
> sign on
> > > >> >America.
> >
> > > >> But he does not have any socialist designs. You clearly have no idea
> > > >> what you are talking about and are too ignorant to realize that Jeff
> > > >> Kuhner is a dishonest fraud. If you were even remotely honest, you w=
> ould
> > > >> reject the lies of this article. Clearly you hate what Jesus taught =
> and
> > > >> you hate the United States of America.
> >
> > > >Stanley Kurtz wrote an article that proves that Obama was once a membe=
> r of
> > > >a political party called "The New Party". It's a socialist political
> > > >party.
> >
> > > The socialists say that Obama is not a socialist.
> >
> > Of couse they do--they don't want Americans to know the truth.
>
> And you continue to be WRONG.

If it looks like a dog and barks like a dog--it's a dog--even if you and
others claim that it's a duck.

jason


Mitchell Holman

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Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
news:Jason-27061...@66-53-217-227.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
This your claim, that means you need to post the
proof of it. Demanding that others prove you wrong
is not how the game is played.




Jason

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Jun 27, 2012, 5:19:47 PM6/27/12
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In article
<93e2be6d-da1f-40aa...@r3g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, "Syd
M." <pauldav...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Jun 27, 2:33=A0pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > In article <mk9mu7pjd14bpqramf58u67ve4vaakd...@4ax.com>, Christopher A.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Lee <chrislee95...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > > On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 11:28:05 -0400, Ben Kaufman
> > > <spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-doll...@pobox.com> wrote:
> >
> > > >On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 13:25:57 +0200, "thomas p." <gudl...@yahoo.com> wr=
> ote:
> >
> > > >>"Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMpacbell.net> skrev i meddelelsen
> > > >>news:hlwdjsd-AF838E...@5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com...
> > > >>> In article
> > > >>> <Jason-2606122326420...@67-150-127-212.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> > > >>> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> >
> > > >>>> In article <9kdku7tbul3l4g3rula6e9l1te974rh...@4ax.com>, Free Lunc=
> h
> > > >>>> <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >
> > > >>>> > On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 23:21:26 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wro=
> te in
> > > >>>> > alt.atheism:
> >
> > > >>>> > >In article <b6uhu7p27jhinufupst6mpvfrsfm1m7...@4ax.com>, Free L=
> unch
> > > >>>> > ><lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >
> > > >>>> > >> On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:10:13 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) =
> wrote
> > > >>>> > >> in
> > > >>>> > >> alt.atheism:
> >
> > > >>>> > >> >Obama socialist designs
> >
> > > >>>> > >> >President=3D92s policies are bent on shattering rule of law
> >
> > > >>>> > >> >By Jeffrey T. Kuhner
> > > >>>> > >> >The Washington Times
> > > >>>> > >> >Thursday, June 21, 2012
> >
> > > >>>> > >> Why did you keep posting this piece of evil?
> >
> > > >>>> > >To let everyone in this newsgroup know about Obama's socialist'=
> s
> > > >>>> > >design on
> > > >>>> > >America.
> >
> > > >>>> > But he does not have any socialist designs. You clearly have no =
> idea
> > > >>>> > what you are talking about and are too ignorant to realize that =
> Jeff
> > > >>>> > Kuhner is a dishonest fraud. If you were even remotely honest, y=
> ou
> > > >>>> > would
> > > >>>> > reject the lies of this article. Clearly you hate what Jesus tau=
> ght and
> > > >>>> > you hate the United States of America.
> >
> > > >>>> Stanley Kurtz wrote an article that proves that Obama was once a m=
> ember
> > > >>>> of
> > > >>>> a political party called "The New Party". It's a socialist politic=
> al
> > > >>>> party.
> >
> > > >>> Even if it's true, so what?
> >
> > > >>And then we have Jason's standards for calling something proved.
> >
> > > >Like the one about Obama's mom sneaking out of Kenya to forge a U.S. b=
> irth
> > > >certificate?
> >
> > > Because she knew he was going to be a US Presidential candidate a few
> > > decades later.
> >
> > NO--We believed the reason for that action was to make her son (Obama)
> > into a legal citizen of America. Lot's of women from Mexico do the same
> > kind of thing. They come to America to have their babies since they know
> > that will mean their babies will become legal citizens of America.
>
> Since it didn't happen, that is irrelevent.

That is correct but we did not know it for sure until Obama released to
the news media a copy of his long form birth certificate. If it had not
been for people like Donald Trump and millions of birthers--Obama would
have never released to the news media a copy of his long form birth
certificate. Some birthers continue to believe the long form birth
certificate is a forgery. I don't agree with them.

jason


Mitchell Holman

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That explains why Obama is packing his administration
with Wall Street insiders and pushing the Bush tax cuts
and the Bush Patriot Act and the Bush secret trials and
Bush foreign policies and the Bush Wars - because he is
such a socialist.

Sheesh..............





Mitchell Holman

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Jun 27, 2012, 5:15:45 PM6/27/12
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The demand to prove a negative - always the
sign of a failed argument.




Jason

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Jun 27, 2012, 5:25:59 PM6/27/12
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In article <XnsA07FA3BE8670...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
If you don't believe me--I don't care.

Since I am a conservative living in California which is a very liberal
state--I am used to it when people disagree with me. I am no longer
offended when people disagree with me. I just no longer care about it when
people disagree with me.


Jason

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Jun 27, 2012, 5:37:48 PM6/27/12
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In article <XnsA07FA4AC6D543...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
As you may know--if you are over 50 years old--socialists like Obama want
to appear to be NON-SOCIALISTS during the months preceeding an election.
If he wins the election--his socialist beliefs will be become very
apparent to everyone in America. The best example that Obama is a
socialist is ObamaCare. As you know, ObamaCare is a socialist program
since it is controlled by the federal government. It's called "socialized
medicine". In regard to the programs that you mentioned in your
post--Obama is in favor of them since he wants to appear to be a
non-socialist. After he wins the election--he will no longer be in favor
of those programs.

Stanley Kurtz wrote an article that was printed in many newspapers that
provided evidence to prove that Obama was once a member of a socialist
political party called "The New Party".

Feel free to google "The New Party" and click on the google hit that
mentions Stanley Kurtz.


Jeanne Douglas

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Jun 27, 2012, 5:47:00 PM6/27/12
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In article
<Jason-27061...@66-53-217-227.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
Stop lying. Learn what socialism actually is and you'll automatically
stop lying about it.

Jeanne Douglas

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Jun 27, 2012, 5:47:49 PM6/27/12
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In article
<Jason-27061...@67-150-122-172.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
No need to read any further after that whopper.

Jeanne Douglas

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Jun 27, 2012, 5:48:26 PM6/27/12
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In article
<Jason-27061...@67-150-122-172.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
That's 3 lies in just 2 sentences.

Jeanne Douglas

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Jun 27, 2012, 5:49:16 PM6/27/12
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In article
<Jason-27061...@66-53-217-227.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
Why don't you get it that, even if it is true, that it's completely
meaningless and we don't give a shit.

Jeanne Douglas

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Jun 27, 2012, 5:51:22 PM6/27/12
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In article
<Jason-27061...@66-53-217-227.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
Obama's mother was an American citizen, so it's irrelevant where her
children were born. The only thing being born overseas would mean is
dual citizenship in countries that apply citizenship to all born in its
borders.

Jeanne Douglas

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Jun 27, 2012, 5:52:33 PM6/27/12
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In article
<Jason-27061...@67-150-122-172.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
By that criterion, Obama is a Republican.

Jason

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Jun 27, 2012, 6:22:58 PM6/27/12
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In article <hlwdjsd-32A4FE...@5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com>, Jeanne
That may be a FACT but it does not mean that the mother of Obama knew that
it was a fact. It does not matter. When Obama released to the news media a
copy of his long form birth certificate--the birther movement ended.

We do deserve the credit for forcing a president to do what he did not
want to do.


Jason

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Jun 27, 2012, 6:23:35 PM6/27/12
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In article <hlwdjsd-BB50C2...@5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com>, Jeanne
or three truths in just 2 sentences.


Don Kresch

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Jun 27, 2012, 6:29:36 PM6/27/12
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On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 11:18:51 -0400, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-p...@pobox.com> scrawled in blood:

>On Tue, 26 Jun 2012 17:44:27 -0500, Don Kresch <spam...@spamcatch.org> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 26 Jun 2012 10:50:27 -0400, Ben Kaufman
>><spaXm-mXe-anXd-p...@pobox.com> scrawled in blood:
>>
>>>On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 16:38:06 -0500, Don Kresch <spam...@spamcatch.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 08:53:44 -0400, Ben Kaufman
>>>><spaXm-mXe-anXd-p...@pobox.com> scrawled in blood:
>>>>
>>>>>On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:10:13 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>It is an ominous
>>>>>>usurpation of centralized power - a naked attempt to entrench an
>>>>>>imperial presidency.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>More proof the ones claiming he's a socialist have no clue what they are talking
>>>>>about.
>>>>
>>>> How so?
>>
>>>"The two great schools of thought which confront the people of the civilized
>>>world today are Imperialism and Socialism. Although they are diametrically
>>>opposed to each other, ..... "
>>
>> Socialism can be imperialistic. Plus: they are both statist
>>ideas.
>>
>
>Not within the above context.

The above context is wrong.


Don
aa#51, Knight of BAAWA, Jedi Slackmaster
Praise "Bob" or burn in Slacklessness trying not to.

Don Kresch

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On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 11:26:20 -0400, Ben Kaufman
<spaXm-mXe-anXd-p...@pobox.com> scrawled in blood:

>The socialists say that Obama is not a socialist.

The socialists are wrong.

SkyEyes

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Jun 27, 2012, 6:32:53 PM6/27/12
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On Jun 26, 11:26 pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article <9kdku7tbul3l4g3rula6e9l1te974rh...@4ax.com>, Free Lunch
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> > On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 23:21:26 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > alt.atheism:
>
> > >In article <b6uhu7p27jhinufupst6mpvfrsfm1m7...@4ax.com>, Free Lunch
> > ><lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>
> > >> On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:10:13 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > >> alt.atheism:
>
> > >> >Obama socialist designs
>
> > >> >President=92s policies are bent on shattering rule of law
>
> > >> >By Jeffrey T. Kuhner
> > >> >The Washington Times
> > >> >Thursday, June 21, 2012
>
> > >> Why did you keep posting this piece of evil?
>
> > >To let everyone in this newsgroup know about Obama's socialist's design on
> > >America.
>
> > But he does not have any socialist designs. You clearly have no idea
> > what you are talking about and are too ignorant to realize that Jeff
> > Kuhner is a dishonest fraud. If you were even remotely honest, you would
> > reject the lies of this article. Clearly you hate what Jesus taught and
> > you hate the United States of America.
>
> Stanley Kurtz wrote an article that proves that Obama was once a member of
> a political party called "The New Party". It's a socialist political
> party.

So fucking what? I used to be a born-again christian; and now I'm
not. Big fucking deal.

Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
BAAWA Knight of the Golden Litterbox
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes nine at cox dot net OR
skyeyes nine at yahoo dot com

SkyEyes

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Jun 27, 2012, 6:38:02 PM6/27/12
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On Jun 27, 11:29 am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article <hh9mu7dghd37dp4slgft4v0h0hjv9e6...@4ax.com>, Ben Kaufman
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-doll...@pobox.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 13:25:57 +0200, "thomas p." <gudl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > >"Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMpacbell.net> skrev i meddelelsen
> > >news:hlwdjsd-AF838E...@5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com...
> > >> In article
> > >> <Jason-2606122326420...@67-150-127-212.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> > >> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
> > >>> In article <9kdku7tbul3l4g3rula6e9l1te974rh...@4ax.com>, Free Lunch
> > >>> <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>
> > >>> > On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 23:21:26 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > >>> > alt.atheism:
>
> > >>> > >In article <b6uhu7p27jhinufupst6mpvfrsfm1m7...@4ax.com>, Free Lunch
Nobody fucking cares, Jason. People join all sorts of things when
they're adolescents. It means *nothing*.

SkyEyes

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Jun 27, 2012, 6:41:24 PM6/27/12
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On Jun 27, 2:37 pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article <XnsA07FA4AC6D543nomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
> > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> >news:Jason-27061...@66-53-217-227.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
>
> > > In article <hlwdjsd-AF838E.00011327062...@5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com>, Jeanne
> > > Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMpacbell.net> wrote:
>
> > >> In article
> > >> <Jason-2606122326420...@67-150-127-212.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> > >>  Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
> > >> > In article <9kdku7tbul3l4g3rula6e9l1te974rh...@4ax.com>, Free Lunch
> > >> > <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>
> > >> > > On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 23:21:26 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason)
> > >> > > wrote in alt.atheism:
>
> > >> > > >In article <b6uhu7p27jhinufupst6mpvfrsfm1m7...@4ax.com>, Free
Bullshit. The Affordable Healthcare Act ain't even in the same
ballpark with socialized medicine. It's entirely driven by the profit
potential of insurance companies.

True socialized medicine would be "Medicare for all," where you go to
the doc and the government pays the bills. That's not what happens
with the Affordable Care Act. You have to buy PRIVATE INSURANCE.
That's so far from socialized medicine it's not even laughable.

SkyEyes

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Jun 27, 2012, 6:37:12 PM6/27/12
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On Jun 27, 2:51 pm, Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMpacbell.net> wrote:
> In article
> <Jason-2706121133330...@66-53-217-227.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > In article <mk9mu7pjd14bpqramf58u67ve4vaakd...@4ax.com>, Christopher A.
> > Lee <chrislee95...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > > On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 11:28:05 -0400, Ben Kaufman
> > > <spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-doll...@pobox.com> wrote:
>
> > > >On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 13:25:57 +0200, "thomas p." <gudl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > >>"Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMpacbell.net> skrev i meddelelsen
> > > >>news:hlwdjsd-AF838E...@5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com...
> > > >>> In article
> > > >>> <Jason-2606122326420...@67-150-127-212.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> > > >>> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
> > > >>>> In article <9kdku7tbul3l4g3rula6e9l1te974rh...@4ax.com>, Free Lunch
> > > >>>> <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>
> > > >>>> > On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 23:21:26 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote
> > > >>>> > in
> > > >>>> > alt.atheism:
>
> > > >>>> > >In article <b6uhu7p27jhinufupst6mpvfrsfm1m7...@4ax.com>, Free Lunch
Yes, like my nephew Angel, who was born in Spain (his father was
serving in the U.S. Air Force at Torrejon AFB) but is a dual citizen,
but still a natural-born U.S. citizen.

Sheesh. All these people have to do is READ THE FUCKING RULES.
What's so hard about that?

Jason

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Jun 27, 2012, 6:53:04 PM6/27/12
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In article
<e3836108-ea71-4ce5...@f9g2000pbd.googlegroups.com>,
SkyEyes <skye...@cox.net> wrote:

> On Jun 27, 11:29=A0am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > In article <hh9mu7dghd37dp4slgft4v0h0hjv9e6...@4ax.com>, Ben Kaufman
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > <spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-doll...@pobox.com> wrote:
> > > On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 13:25:57 +0200, "thomas p." <gudl...@yahoo.com> wro=
> te:
> >
> > > >"Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMpacbell.net> skrev i meddelelsen
> > > >news:hlwdjsd-AF838E...@5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com...
> > > >> In article
> > > >> <Jason-2606122326420...@67-150-127-212.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> > > >> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> >
> > > >>> In article <9kdku7tbul3l4g3rula6e9l1te974rh...@4ax.com>, Free Lunch
> > > >>> <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >
> > > >>> > On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 23:21:26 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrot=
> e in
> > > >>> > alt.atheism:
> >
> > > >>> > >In article <b6uhu7p27jhinufupst6mpvfrsfm1m7...@4ax.com>, Free Lu=
> nch
> > > >>> > ><lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >
> > > >>> > >> On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:10:13 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) w=
> rote
> > > >>> > >> in
> > > >>> > >> alt.atheism:
> >
> > > >>> > >> >Obama socialist designs
> >
> > > >>> > >> >President=3D92s policies are bent on shattering rule of law
> >
> > > >>> > >> >By Jeffrey T. Kuhner
> > > >>> > >> >The Washington Times
> > > >>> > >> >Thursday, June 21, 2012
> >
> > > >>> > >> Why did you keep posting this piece of evil?
> >
> > > >>> > >To let everyone in this newsgroup know about Obama's socialist's
> > > >>> > >design on
> > > >>> > >America.
> >
> > > >>> > But he does not have any socialist designs. You clearly have no i=
> dea
> > > >>> > what you are talking about and are too ignorant to realize that J=
> eff
> > > >>> > Kuhner is a dishonest fraud. If you were even remotely honest, yo=
> u
> > > >>> > would
> > > >>> > reject the lies of this article. Clearly you hate what Jesus taug=
> ht and
> > > >>> > you hate the United States of America.
> >
> > > >>> Stanley Kurtz wrote an article that proves that Obama was once a me=
> mber
> > > >>> of
> > > >>> a political party called "The New Party". It's a socialist politica=
> l
> > > >>> party.
> >
> > > >> Even if it's true, so what?
> >
> > > >And then we have Jason's standards for calling something proved.
> >
> > > Like the one about Obama's mom sneaking out of Kenya to forge a U.S. bi=
> rth
> > > certificate?
> >
> > OK--Obama proved that I was not correct about that story.
> >
> > I now challenge you to prove that I am not correct about Obama ever being
> > a member of a socialist political party called "The New Party".
>
> Nobody fucking cares, Jason. People join all sorts of things when
> they're adolescents. It means *nothing*.
>
> Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
> BAAWA Knight of the Golden Litterbox
> EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
> skyeyes nine at cox dot net OR
> skyeyes nine at yahoo dot com

As you and I are concerned--it means nothing. However, since Obama is the
leader of America--it means something.

It could mean that he is a secret socialist and is keeping that secret
until after he wins the next election.

If Obama was the president of a law firm or bank--it would not matter.
Since he is the president of the USA--it does matter.


Jason

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Jun 27, 2012, 6:53:51 PM6/27/12
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In article
<11813b03-3d5b-4713...@km7g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
SkyEyes <skye...@cox.net> wrote:

> On Jun 26, 11:26=A0pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > In article <9kdku7tbul3l4g3rula6e9l1te974rh...@4ax.com>, Free Lunch
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> > > On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 23:21:26 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > > alt.atheism:
> >
> > > >In article <b6uhu7p27jhinufupst6mpvfrsfm1m7...@4ax.com>, Free Lunch
> > > ><lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >
> > > >> On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:10:13 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote i=
> n
> > > >> alt.atheism:
> >
> > > >> >Obama socialist designs
> >
> > > >> >President=3D92s policies are bent on shattering rule of law
> >
> > > >> >By Jeffrey T. Kuhner
> > > >> >The Washington Times
> > > >> >Thursday, June 21, 2012
> >
> > > >> Why did you keep posting this piece of evil?
> >
> > > >To let everyone in this newsgroup know about Obama's socialist's desig=
> n on
> > > >America.
> >
> > > But he does not have any socialist designs. You clearly have no idea
> > > what you are talking about and are too ignorant to realize that Jeff
> > > Kuhner is a dishonest fraud. If you were even remotely honest, you woul=
> d
> > > reject the lies of this article. Clearly you hate what Jesus taught and
> > > you hate the United States of America.
> >
> > Stanley Kurtz wrote an article that proves that Obama was once a member o=
> f
> > a political party called "The New Party". It's a socialist political
> > party.
>
> So fucking what? I used to be a born-again christian; and now I'm
> not. Big fucking deal.
>
> Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
> BAAWA Knight of the Golden Litterbox
> EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
> skyeyes nine at cox dot net OR
> skyeyes nine at yahoo dot com

It could become VERY important on the day that you die.


Mitchell Holman

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Jun 27, 2012, 6:52:08 PM6/27/12
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SkyEyes <skye...@cox.net> wrote in
news:0feaced0-2dc2-4a3d...@st3g2000pbc.googlegroups.com:
Is this Jason any relation to the other one?

They seem to have the same sort of right
wing obstinancy and aversion to common sense.



SkyEyes

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Jun 27, 2012, 6:35:25 PM6/27/12
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On Jun 27, 11:33 am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article <mk9mu7pjd14bpqramf58u67ve4vaakd...@4ax.com>, Christopher A.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Lee <chrislee95...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 11:28:05 -0400, Ben Kaufman
> > <spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-doll...@pobox.com> wrote:
>
> > >On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 13:25:57 +0200, "thomas p." <gudl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > >>"Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMpacbell.net> skrev i meddelelsen
> > >>news:hlwdjsd-AF838E...@5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com...
> > >>> In article
> > >>> <Jason-2606122326420...@67-150-127-212.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> > >>> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
> > >>>> In article <9kdku7tbul3l4g3rula6e9l1te974rh...@4ax.com>, Free Lunch
> > >>And then we have Jason's standards for calling something proved.
>
> > >Like the one about Obama's mom sneaking out of Kenya to forge a U.S. birth
> > >certificate?
>
> > Because she knew he was going to be a US Presidential candidate a few
> > decades later.
>
> NO--We believed the reason for that action was to make her son (Obama)
> into a legal citizen of America. Lot's of women from Mexico do the same
> kind of thing. They come to America to have their babies since they know
> that will mean their babies will become legal citizens of America.

But Obama's mother didn't have to "come to America" to have her baby;
she was already *in* America. Why would she have gone to Kenya to
give birth? Women in the late stages of pregnancy are discouraged
from flying.

And besides, his mother *was* a natural-born American, and had been in
the country within a year of his birth. He could have been born on
the *moon* and he'd still be a natural-born citizen because of that.
That's why John McCain is a natural-born citizen even though he was
born in Panama.

Jesus, you're a dickhead.

Alex W.

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Jun 27, 2012, 7:25:55 PM6/27/12
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Since you do not even know what this particular dog looks like or
what its bark sounds like, you will have a hard time identifying
it...

tirebiter

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On Jun 27, 2:24 pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article <hlwdjsd-AF838E.00011327062...@5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com>, Jeanne
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMpacbell.net> wrote:
> > In article
> > <Jason-2606122326420...@67-150-127-212.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> >  Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
> > > In article <9kdku7tbul3l4g3rula6e9l1te974rh...@4ax.com>, Free Lunch
> > > <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>
> > > > On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 23:21:26 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > > > alt.atheism:
>
> > > > >In article <b6uhu7p27jhinufupst6mpvfrsfm1m7...@4ax.com>, Free Lunch
> > > > ><lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>
> > > > >> On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:10:13 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > > > >> alt.atheism:
>
> > > > >> >Obama socialist designs
>
> > > > >> >President=92s policies are bent on shattering rule of law
>
> > > > >> >By Jeffrey T. Kuhner
> > > > >> >The Washington Times
> > > > >> >Thursday, June 21, 2012
>
> > > > >> Why did you keep posting this piece of evil?
>
> > > > >To let everyone in this newsgroup know about Obama's socialist's
> design on
> > > > >America.
>
> > > > But he does not have any socialist designs. You clearly have no idea
> > > > what you are talking about and are too ignorant to realize that Jeff
> > > > Kuhner is a dishonest fraud. If you were even remotely honest, you would
> > > > reject the lies of this article. Clearly you hate what Jesus taught and
> > > > you hate the United States of America.
>
> > > Stanley Kurtz wrote an article that proves that Obama was once a member of
> > > a political party called "The New Party". It's a socialist political
> > > party.
>
> > Even if it's true, so what?
>
> It may NOT be important to you but is important to the conservatives that
> do NOT want America to ever become a socialist country. Obama appears to
> me to be trying to make America into a socialist country.

You've been called on this claim MANY TIMES, and you still haven't
given any evidence.

And then you even had to ask other people for a list of what YOU would
consider "socialist programs" because you couldn't name a SINGLE ONE
by yourself.

What socialist programs do you oppose?

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tirebiter

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Jun 27, 2012, 8:25:51 PM6/27/12
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On Jun 27, 2:26 pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article <4feaedc4$0$278$edfad...@dtext01.news.tele.dk>, "thomas p."
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <gudl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > "Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMpacbell.net> skrev i meddelelsen
> >news:hlwdjsd-AF838E...@5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com...
> > And then we have Jason's standards for calling something proved.
>
> > > --
> > > JD
>
> > > "the lybian lier"
>
> Feel free to prove that Obama never was a member of a socialist political
> party called "The New Party".

Feel free to prove any negative of your own. You are the one who has
the burden of proof that he was a member of this party and that it was
intended to promote socialism.

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Jason

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Jun 27, 2012, 8:39:08 PM6/27/12
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In article <6mqgrm7rkbj$.1gvha7jn8x8ia$.d...@40tude.net>,
At the very least, I would know that it is not a duck.

Obama is clearly a socialist program since he was the president that
signed the ObamaCare program into law. ObamaCare is socialized medicine
since the federal gov't is in charge of the ObamaCare program. Have you
noticed that Obama rarely ever mentioned the ObamaCare program in his
speeches. The reason for that is because the polls clearly show that the
majority of Americans are not in favor of it since it forces people to buy
medical insurance even if they can't afford to pay for medical insurance.


tirebiter

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On Jun 27, 2:33 pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article <mk9mu7pjd14bpqramf58u67ve4vaakd...@4ax.com>, Christopher A.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Lee <chrislee95...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 11:28:05 -0400, Ben Kaufman
> > <spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-doll...@pobox.com> wrote:
>
> > >On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 13:25:57 +0200, "thomas p." <gudl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > >>"Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMpacbell.net> skrev i meddelelsen
> > >>news:hlwdjsd-AF838E...@5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com...
> > >>> In article
> > >>> <Jason-2606122326420...@67-150-127-212.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> > >>> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
> > >>>> In article <9kdku7tbul3l4g3rula6e9l1te974rh...@4ax.com>, Free Lunch
> > >>>> <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>
> > >>>> > On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 23:21:26 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > >>>> > alt.atheism:
>
> > >>>> > >In article <b6uhu7p27jhinufupst6mpvfrsfm1m7...@4ax.com>, Free Lunch
> > >>>> > ><lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>
> > >>>> > >> On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:10:13 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote
> > >>>> > >> in
> > >>>> > >> alt.atheism:
>
> > >>>> > >> >Obama socialist designs
>
> > >>>> > >> >President=92s policies are bent on shattering rule of law
>
> > >>>> > >> >By Jeffrey T. Kuhner
> > >>>> > >> >The Washington Times
> > >>>> > >> >Thursday, June 21, 2012
>
> > >>>> > >> Why did you keep posting this piece of evil?
>
> > >>>> > >To let everyone in this newsgroup know about Obama's socialist's
> > >>>> > >design on
> > >>>> > >America.
>
> > >>>> > But he does not have any socialist designs. You clearly have no idea
> > >>>> > what you are talking about and are too ignorant to realize that Jeff
> > >>>> > Kuhner is a dishonest fraud. If you were even remotely honest, you
> > >>>> > would
> > >>>> > reject the lies of this article. Clearly you hate what Jesus taught and
> > >>>> > you hate the United States of America.
>
> > >>>> Stanley Kurtz wrote an article that proves that Obama was once a member
> > >>>> of
> > >>>> a political party called "The New Party". It's a socialist political
> > >>>> party.
>
> > >>> Even if it's true, so what?
>
> > >>And then we have Jason's standards for calling something proved.
>
> > >Like the one about Obama's mom sneaking out of Kenya to forge a U.S. birth
> > >certificate?
>
> > Because she knew he was going to be a US Presidential candidate a few
> > decades later.
>
> NO--We believed the reason for that action was to make her son (Obama)
> into a legal citizen of America. Lot's of women from Mexico do the same
> kind of thing. They come to America to have their babies since they know
> that will mean their babies will become legal citizens of America.

See? You still are defending the birthers. And with the STUPIDEST
argument possible. His mother would be imprisoned for committing this
conspiracy, as would the dozens of immigration, medical, airline, and
other people who would have had to help her for no reason to benefit
themselves. As well as risking her and his health by transporting a
newborn halfway around the world. Or she and her parents could have
just sponsored his naturalized citizenship legally. This woman went
on to earn a PhD. Do you think she wasn't smart enough to do the
right thing?

You are SUCH a liar.

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tirebiter

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On Jun 27, 5:19 pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article
> <93e2be6d-da1f-40aa-bbfe-ae1aa1db7...@r3g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, "Syd
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> M." <pauldavidwri...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On Jun 27, 2:33=A0pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > > In article <mk9mu7pjd14bpqramf58u67ve4vaakd...@4ax.com>, Christopher A.
>
> > > Lee <chrislee95...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 11:28:05 -0400, Ben Kaufman
> > > > <spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-doll...@pobox.com> wrote:
>
> > > > >On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 13:25:57 +0200, "thomas p." <gudl...@yahoo.com> wr=
> > ote:
>
> > > > >>"Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMpacbell.net> skrev i meddelelsen
> > > > >>news:hlwdjsd-AF838E...@5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com...
> > > > >>> In article
> > > > >>> <Jason-2606122326420...@67-150-127-212.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> > > > >>> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
> > > > >>>> In article <9kdku7tbul3l4g3rula6e9l1te974rh...@4ax.com>, Free Lunc=
> > h
> > > > >>>> <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>
> > > > >>>> > On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 23:21:26 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wro=
> > te in
> > > > >>>> > alt.atheism:
>
> > > > >>>> > >In article <b6uhu7p27jhinufupst6mpvfrsfm1m7...@4ax.com>, Free L=
> > unch
> > > > >>>> > ><lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>
> > > > >>>> > >> On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:10:13 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) =
> > wrote
> > > > >>>> > >> in
> > > > >>>> > >> alt.atheism:
>
> > > > >>>> > >> >Obama socialist designs
>
> > > > >>>> > >> >President=3D92s policies are bent on shattering rule of law
>
> > > > >>>> > >> >By Jeffrey T. Kuhner
> > > > >>>> > >> >The Washington Times
> > > > >>>> > >> >Thursday, June 21, 2012
>
> > > > >>>> > >> Why did you keep posting this piece of evil?
>
> > > > >>>> > >To let everyone in this newsgroup know about Obama's socialist'=
> > s
> > > > >>>> > >design on
> > > > >>>> > >America.
>
> > > > >>>> > But he does not have any socialist designs. You clearly have no =
> > idea
> > > > >>>> > what you are talking about and are too ignorant to realize that =
> > Jeff
> > > > >>>> > Kuhner is a dishonest fraud. If you were even remotely honest, y=
> > ou
> > > > >>>> > would
> > > > >>>> > reject the lies of this article. Clearly you hate what Jesus tau=
> > ght and
> > > > >>>> > you hate the United States of America.
>
> > > > >>>> Stanley Kurtz wrote an article that proves that Obama was once a m=
> > ember
> > > > >>>> of
> > > > >>>> a political party called "The New Party". It's a socialist politic=
> > al
> > > > >>>> party.
>
> > > > >>> Even if it's true, so what?
>
> > > > >>And then we have Jason's standards for calling something proved.
>
> > > > >Like the one about Obama's mom sneaking out of Kenya to forge a U.S. b=
> > irth
> > > > >certificate?
>
> > > > Because she knew he was going to be a US Presidential candidate a few
> > > > decades later.
>
> > > NO--We believed the reason for that action was to make her son (Obama)
> > > into a legal citizen of America. Lot's of women from Mexico do the same
> > > kind of thing. They come to America to have their babies since they know
> > > that will mean their babies will become legal citizens of America.
>
> > Since it didn't happen, that is irrelevent.
>
> That is correct but we did not know it for sure until Obama released to
> the news media a copy of his long form birth certificate. If it had not
> been for people like Donald Trump and millions of birthers--Obama would
> have never released to the news media a copy of his long form birth
> certificate. Some birthers continue to believe the long form birth
> certificate is a forgery. I don't agree with them.
>
> jason

Yes you do. You still defend their lies. It was clear from the first
allegation that it wasn't true. You are such a racist that you clung
to the lies just because it defamed a black man.

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tirebiter

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On Jun 27, 5:14 pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article
> <c609117c-0ad9-4e1c-b902-32509a209...@m8g2000yqo.googlegroups.com>, "Syd
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> M." <pauldavidwri...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On Jun 27, 2:24=A0pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > > In article <hlwdjsd-AF838E.00011327062...@5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com>, Jeanne
>
> > > Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMpacbell.net> wrote:
> > > > In article
> > > > <Jason-2606122326420...@67-150-127-212.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> > > > =A0Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
> > > > > In article <9kdku7tbul3l4g3rula6e9l1te974rh...@4ax.com>, Free Lunch
> > > > > <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 23:21:26 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote =
> > in
> > > > > > alt.atheism:
>
> > > > > > >In article <b6uhu7p27jhinufupst6mpvfrsfm1m7...@4ax.com>, Free Lunc=
> > h
> > > > > > ><lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>
> > > > > > >> On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:10:13 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wro=
> > te in
> > > > > > >> alt.atheism:
>
> > > > > > >> >Obama socialist designs
>
> > > > > > >> >President=3D92s policies are bent on shattering rule of law
>
> > > > > > >> >By Jeffrey T. Kuhner
> > > > > > >> >The Washington Times
> > > > > > >> >Thursday, June 21, 2012
>
> > > > > > >> Why did you keep posting this piece of evil?
>
> > > > > > >To let everyone in this newsgroup know about Obama's socialist's
> > > design on
> > > > > > >America.
>
> > > > > > But he does not have any socialist designs. You clearly have no ide=
> > a
> > > > > > what you are talking about and are too ignorant to realize that Jef=
> > f
> > > > > > Kuhner is a dishonest fraud. If you were even remotely honest, you =
> > would
> > > > > > reject the lies of this article. Clearly you hate what Jesus taught=
> >  and
> > > > > > you hate the United States of America.
>
> > > > > Stanley Kurtz wrote an article that proves that Obama was once a memb=
> > er of
> > > > > a political party called "The New Party". It's a socialist political
> > > > > party.
>
> > > > Even if it's true, so what?
>
> > > It may NOT be important to you but is important to the conservatives that
> > > do NOT want America to ever become a socialist country. Obama appears to
> > > me to be trying to make America into a socialist country.
>
> > And you continue to be wrong, loser.
>
> ObamaCare is clearly a socialist program. The federal gov't will control
> it. It is called socialized medicine.

Aren't you in favor of Medicare and Medicaid? You have said you
were. Were you lying then or now?

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Jason

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Jun 27, 2012, 8:43:34 PM6/27/12
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In article
<e9b9ffbb-b56d-403a...@tx6g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
SkyEyes <skye...@cox.net> wrote:

> On Jun 27, 11:33=A0am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > In article <mk9mu7pjd14bpqramf58u67ve4vaakd...@4ax.com>, Christopher A.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Lee <chrislee95...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > > On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 11:28:05 -0400, Ben Kaufman
> > > <spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-doll...@pobox.com> wrote:
> >
> > > >On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 13:25:57 +0200, "thomas p." <gudl...@yahoo.com> wr=
> ote:
> >
> > > >>"Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMpacbell.net> skrev i meddelelsen
> > > >>news:hlwdjsd-AF838E...@5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com...
> > > >>> In article
> > > >>> <Jason-2606122326420...@67-150-127-212.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> > > >>> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> >
> > > >>>> In article <9kdku7tbul3l4g3rula6e9l1te974rh...@4ax.com>, Free Lunc=
> h
> > > >>>> <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >
> > > >>>> > On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 23:21:26 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wro=
> te in
> > > >>>> > alt.atheism:
> >
> > > >>>> > >In article <b6uhu7p27jhinufupst6mpvfrsfm1m7...@4ax.com>, Free L=
> unch
> > > >>>> > ><lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >
> > > >>>> > >> On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:10:13 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) =
> wrote
> > > >>>> > >> in
> > > >>>> > >> alt.atheism:
> >
> > > >>>> > >> >Obama socialist designs
> >
> > > >>>> > >> >President=3D92s policies are bent on shattering rule of law
> >
> > > >>>> > >> >By Jeffrey T. Kuhner
> > > >>>> > >> >The Washington Times
> > > >>>> > >> >Thursday, June 21, 2012
> >
> > > >>>> > >> Why did you keep posting this piece of evil?
> >
> > > >>>> > >To let everyone in this newsgroup know about Obama's socialist'=
> s
> > > >>>> > >design on
> > > >>>> > >America.
> >
> > > >>>> > But he does not have any socialist designs. You clearly have no =
> idea
> > > >>>> > what you are talking about and are too ignorant to realize that =
> Jeff
> > > >>>> > Kuhner is a dishonest fraud. If you were even remotely honest, y=
> ou
> > > >>>> > would
> > > >>>> > reject the lies of this article. Clearly you hate what Jesus tau=
> ght and
> > > >>>> > you hate the United States of America.
> >
> > > >>>> Stanley Kurtz wrote an article that proves that Obama was once a m=
> ember
> > > >>>> of
> > > >>>> a political party called "The New Party". It's a socialist politic=
> al
> > > >>>> party.
> >
> > > >>> Even if it's true, so what?
> >
> > > >>And then we have Jason's standards for calling something proved.
> >
> > > >Like the one about Obama's mom sneaking out of Kenya to forge a U.S. b=
> irth
> > > >certificate?
> >
> > > Because she knew he was going to be a US Presidential candidate a few
> > > decades later.
> >
> > NO--We believed the reason for that action was to make her son (Obama)
> > into a legal citizen of America. Lot's of women from Mexico do the same
> > kind of thing. They come to America to have their babies since they know
> > that will mean their babies will become legal citizens of America.
>
> But Obama's mother didn't have to "come to America" to have her baby;
> she was already *in* America. Why would she have gone to Kenya to
> give birth? Women in the late stages of pregnancy are discouraged
> from flying.
>
> And besides, his mother *was* a natural-born American, and had been in
> the country within a year of his birth. He could have been born on
> the *moon* and he'd still be a natural-born citizen because of that.
> That's why John McCain is a natural-born citizen even though he was
> born in Panama.
>
> Jesus, you're a dickhead.
>
> Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
> BAAWA Knight of the Golden Litterbox
> EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
> skyeyes nine at cox dot net OR
> skyeyes nine at yahoo dot com

It does not matter since the birther movement came to an end when we
forced Obama to give to the news media a copy of his long form birth
certificate. It feels great to have been part of a movement to force a
president to do something that he did not want to do. If it was not for
the birthers (like me), Obama would have NEVER gave to the news media a

tirebiter

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On Jun 27, 5:25 pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article <XnsA07FA3BE8670nomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
> > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> >news:Jason-27061...@66-53-217-227.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
>
> > > In article <hh9mu7dghd37dp4slgft4v0h0hjv9e6...@4ax.com>, Ben Kaufman
> > > <spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-doll...@pobox.com> wrote:
>
> > >> On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 13:25:57 +0200, "thomas p." <gudl...@yahoo.com>
> > >> wrote:
>
> > >> >"Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMpacbell.net> skrev i meddelelsen
> > >> >news:hlwdjsd-AF838E...@5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com...
> > >> >> In article
> > >> >> <Jason-2606122326420...@67-150-127-212.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> > >> >> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
> > >> >>> In article <9kdku7tbul3l4g3rula6e9l1te974rh...@4ax.com>, Free
> > >> >>> Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>
> > >> >>> > On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 23:21:26 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason)
> > >> >>> > wrote in alt.atheism:
>
> > >> >>> > >In article <b6uhu7p27jhinufupst6mpvfrsfm1m7...@4ax.com>, Free
> > >> >>> > >Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>
> > >> >>> > >> On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:10:13 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason)
> > >> >>> > >> wrote in
> > >> >>> > >> alt.atheism:
>
> > >> >>> > >> >Obama socialist designs
>
> > >> >>> > >> >President=92s policies are bent on shattering rule of law
>
> > >> >>> > >> >By Jeffrey T. Kuhner
> > >> >>> > >> >The Washington Times
> > >> >>> > >> >Thursday, June 21, 2012
>
> > >> >>> > >> Why did you keep posting this piece of evil?
>
> > >> >>> > >To let everyone in this newsgroup know about Obama's
> > >> >>> > >socialist's design on
> > >> >>> > >America.
>
> > >> >>> > But he does not have any socialist designs. You clearly have no
> > >> >>> > idea what you are talking about and are too ignorant to realize
> > >> >>> > that Jeff Kuhner is a dishonest fraud. If you were even
> > >> >>> > remotely honest, you would
> > >> >>> > reject the lies of this article. Clearly you hate what Jesus
> > >> >>> > taught and you hate the United States of America.
>
> > >> >>> Stanley Kurtz wrote an article that proves that Obama was once a
> > >> >>> member of
> > >> >>> a political party called "The New Party". It's a socialist
> > >> >>> political party.
>
> > >> >> Even if it's true, so what?
>
> > >> >And then we have Jason's standards for calling something proved.
>
> > >> Like the one about Obama's mom sneaking out of Kenya to forge a U.S.
> > >> birth certificate?
>
> > > OK--Obama proved that I was not correct about that story.
>
> > > I now challenge you to prove that I am not correct about Obama ever
> > > being a member of a socialist political party called "The New Party".
>
> >    This your claim, that means you need to post the
> > proof of it. Demanding that others prove you wrong
> > is not how the game is played.
>
> If you don't believe me--I don't care.
>
> Since I am a conservative living in California which is a very liberal
> state--I am used to it when people disagree with me. I am no longer
> offended when people disagree with me. I just no longer care about it when
> people disagree with me.

Worst dodge ever.

You should care Jason, you are so consistently wrong that you should
worry about why that is so.

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tirebiter

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On Jun 27, 5:37 pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article <XnsA07FA4AC6D543nomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
> > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> >news:Jason-27061...@66-53-217-227.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
>
> > > In article <hlwdjsd-AF838E.00011327062...@5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com>, Jeanne
> > > Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMpacbell.net> wrote:
>
> > > It may NOT be important to you but is important to the conservatives
> > > that do NOT want America to ever become a socialist country. Obama
> > > appears to me to be trying to make America into a socialist country.
>
> >     That explains why Obama is packing his administration
> > with Wall Street insiders and pushing the Bush tax cuts
> > and the Bush Patriot Act and the Bush secret trials and
> > Bush foreign policies and the Bush Wars - because he is
> > such a socialist.
>
> >     Sheesh..............
>
> As you may know--if you are over 50 years old--socialists like Obama want
> to appear to be NON-SOCIALISTS during the months preceeding an election.
> If he wins the election--his socialist beliefs will be become very
> apparent to everyone in America. The best example that Obama is a
> socialist is ObamaCare. As you know, ObamaCare is a socialist program
> since it is controlled by the federal government. It's called "socialized
> medicine". In regard to the programs that you mentioned in your
> post--Obama is in favor of them since he wants to appear to be a
> non-socialist. After he wins the election--he will no longer be in favor
> of those programs.
>
> Stanley Kurtz wrote an article that was printed in many newspapers that
> provided evidence to prove that Obama was once a member of a socialist
> political party called "The New Party".
>
> Feel free to google "The New Party" and click on the google hit that
> mentions Stanley Kurtz.

Wow. You still have ZERO comprehension of socialism. It is clear you
never EVER tried to learn a single thing about it.

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a.a. #2273

tirebiter

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On Jun 27, 6:23 pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article <hlwdjsd-BB50C2.14482627062...@5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com>, Jeanne
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMpacbell.net> wrote:
> > In article
> > <Jason-2706121414010...@67-150-122-172.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> >  Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
> > > In article
> > > <c609117c-0ad9-4e1c-b902-32509a209...@m8g2000yqo.googlegroups.com>, "Syd
No Jason. LIES.

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tirebiter

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On Jun 27, 6:52 pm, Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
Yeah, he lied that he was not going to post anymore. He's a serial
liar.

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tirebiter

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Jun 27, 2012, 8:43:12 PM6/27/12
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On Jun 27, 6:53 pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article
> <11813b03-3d5b-4713-837f-59e1fe360...@km7g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
Ohh. The hollow threat YET AGAIN. You'll be sorry when you're dead.

Jason, why do you lie in every post?

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tirebiter

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On Jun 27, 8:39 pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article <6mqgrm7rkbj$.1gvha7jn8x8ia$....@40tude.net>,
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ing...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> > On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 14:16:13 -0700, Jason wrote:
>
> > > In article
> > > <b9c2ceee-c121-4752-864a-f5a5e106e...@l32g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, "Syd
It was just explained to you that the ACA ISN'T socialized medicine.
Why are you lying about it still?

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a.a. #2273

Jason

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Jun 27, 2012, 8:55:48 PM6/27/12
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In article
<c6e7aacc-90ff-4979...@s9g2000vbg.googlegroups.com>,
tirebiter <dontsp...@bigfoot.com> wrote:

> On Jun 27, 6:52=A0pm, Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
> > SkyEyes <skyey...@cox.net> wrote innews:0feaced0-2dc2-4a3d-b276-d72c88075=
> 1...@st3g2000pbc.googlegroups.com:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Jun 27, 2:37=A0pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > >> In article <XnsA07FA4AC6D543nomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>,
> > >> Mitchell
> >
> > >> Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
> > >> > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > >> >news:Jason-27061...@66-53-217-227.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
> >
> > >> > > In article <hlwdjsd-AF838E.00011327062...@5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com>,
> > >> > > Jeann
> > > e
> > >> > > Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMpacbell.net> wrote:
> >
> > >> > >> In article
> > >> > >> <Jason-2606122326420...@67-150-127-212.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> > >> > >> =A0Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> >
> > >> > >> > In article <9kdku7tbul3l4g3rula6e9l1te974rh...@4ax.com>, Free
> > >> > >> > Lunc
> > > h
> > >> > >> > <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >
> > >> > >> > > On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 23:21:26 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason)
> > >> > >> > > wrote in alt.atheism:
> >
> > >> > >> > > >In article <b6uhu7p27jhinufupst6mpvfrsfm1m7...@4ax.com>,
> > >> > >> > > >Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >
> > >> > >> > > >> On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:10:13 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com
> > >> > >> > > >> (Jason) wrote in alt.atheism:
> >
> > >> > >> > > >> >Obama socialist designs
> >
> > >> > >> > > >> >President=3D92s policies are bent on shattering rule of
> > >> > =A0 =A0 That explains why Obama is packing his administration
> > >> > with Wall Street insiders and pushing the Bush tax cuts
> > >> > and the Bush Patriot Act and the Bush secret trials and
> > >> > Bush foreign policies and the Bush Wars - because he is
> > >> > such a socialist.
> >
> > >> > =A0 =A0 Sheesh..............
> >
> > >> As you may know--if you are over 50 years old--socialists like Obama
> > >> want to appear to be NON-SOCIALISTS during the months preceeding an
> > >> election. If he wins the election--his socialist beliefs will be
> > >> become very apparent to everyone in America. The best example that
> > >> Obama is a socialist is ObamaCare. As you know, ObamaCare is a
> > >> socialist program since it is controlled by the federal government.
> > >> It's called "socialized medicine".
> >
> > > Bullshit. =A0The Affordable Healthcare Act ain't even in the same
> > > ballpark with socialized medicine. =A0It's entirely driven by the profi=
> t
> > > potential of insurance companies.
> >
> > > True socialized medicine would be "Medicare for all," where you go to
> > > the doc and the government pays the bills. =A0That's not what happens
> > > with the Affordable Care Act. =A0You have to buy PRIVATE INSURANCE.
> > > That's so far from socialized medicine it's not even laughable.
> >
> > =A0 =A0 Is this Jason any relation to the other one?
> >
> > =A0 =A0 They seem to have the same sort of right
> > wing obstinancy and aversion to common sense.
>
> Yeah, he lied that he was not going to post anymore. He's a serial
> liar.
>
> ---
> a.a. #2273

Read the following post very carefully since it does NOT state that I
won't post in this newsgroup or any other newsgroup anymore. I was
discussing a thread that lasted for about 4 to 6 months and one poster
claimed that it broke a record.


After Sunday, I don't plan to respond to very many more posts in this
thread. The reasons are:

1. Albert Einstein once stated: "The definition of insanity is doing the
same thing over and over again and expecting different results." I once
believed that is was possible to convince the advocates of abiogenesis
that life could NOT evolve from non-living matter. In fact, the Law of
Biogenesis clearly states that living things always come from other living
things and that living things only produce more living things like
themselves. However, I now realize that many advocates of abiogenesis will
NEVER be convinced by anyone that the Law of Biogenesis is a valid theory
in much the same way that the law of gravity is a valid theory. It's
insanity to continue to try to convince people that I am correct.

2. I once believed that I could convince people that abortion was equal to
murder. The exceptions were to save the life of the mother or to remove
dead fetuses from a woman's body. I failed to accomplish that goal. Many
people appeared to me to honestly believe that the killing of an unborn
baby was NOT murder. It's insanity to continue to try to convince people
that I am correct. Abortion=Murder

3. We came to an impasse on several different issues such as Noah's Flood.
I ended up having to respond to the same questions dozens of different
times. I believe that Noah's Flood happened but lots of posters believe
that it did not happen.

4. On some days, I responded to over a 100 posts. Mary claims that I am
addicted to the internet. She told me that responding to posts is
preventing me from getting various jobs or chores done. She is correct.
Responding to posts is also limiting the quality time that I am spending
with Mary. The end result will be that I will have more time to spend with
Mary.

5. I hurt my back last year so stopped exercising. I have heart disease.
My cardiologist said that I need to start walking at least a mile per day
since it will help to treat my heart disease problems. I also need to do
back exercises each day--even if it is painful to do back exercises each
day.

6. And the last and final reason--I am developing some minor carpal tunnel
snydrome problems. Responding to over 50 posts per day requires a lot of
typing and cutting back on newsgroup posts will help make that problem go
away--at least I hope so. I feel sorry for a lady that works at the
grocery store--her job requires her to use the register 8 hours a per day.
She has a major case of carpal tunnel syndrome and has to wear a device on
her wrists.


tirebiter

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Jun 27, 2012, 8:49:03 PM6/27/12
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On Jun 27, 8:55 pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article
> <c6e7aacc-90ff-4979-bba8-b718a1091...@s9g2000vbg.googlegroups.com>,
Liar. you posted that you were not going to post in a.a. AT ALL, ANY
MORE.

Why do you lie?

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tirebiter

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On Jun 27, 2:29 pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article <hh9mu7dghd37dp4slgft4v0h0hjv9e6...@4ax.com>, Ben Kaufman
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-doll...@pobox.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 13:25:57 +0200, "thomas p." <gudl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > >"Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMpacbell.net> skrev i meddelelsen
> > >news:hlwdjsd-AF838E...@5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com...
> > >> In article
> > >> <Jason-2606122326420...@67-150-127-212.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> > >> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
> > >>> In article <9kdku7tbul3l4g3rula6e9l1te974rh...@4ax.com>, Free Lunch
> > >>> <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>
> > >>> > On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 23:21:26 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > >>> > alt.atheism:
>
> > >>> > >In article <b6uhu7p27jhinufupst6mpvfrsfm1m7...@4ax.com>, Free Lunch
> > >>> > ><lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>
> > >>> > >> On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:10:13 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote
> > >>> > >> in
> > >>> > >> alt.atheism:
>
> > >>> > >> >Obama socialist designs
>
> > >>> > >> >President=92s policies are bent on shattering rule of law
>
> > >>> > >> >By Jeffrey T. Kuhner
> > >>> > >> >The Washington Times
> > >>> > >> >Thursday, June 21, 2012
>
> > >>> > >> Why did you keep posting this piece of evil?
>
> > >>> > >To let everyone in this newsgroup know about Obama's socialist's
> > >>> > >design on
> > >>> > >America.
>
> > >>> > But he does not have any socialist designs. You clearly have no idea
> > >>> > what you are talking about and are too ignorant to realize that Jeff
> > >>> > Kuhner is a dishonest fraud. If you were even remotely honest, you
> > >>> > would
> > >>> > reject the lies of this article. Clearly you hate what Jesus taught and
> > >>> > you hate the United States of America.
>
> > >>> Stanley Kurtz wrote an article that proves that Obama was once a member
> > >>> of
> > >>> a political party called "The New Party". It's a socialist political
> > >>> party.
>
> > >> Even if it's true, so what?
>
> > >And then we have Jason's standards for calling something proved.
>
> > Like the one about Obama's mom sneaking out of Kenya to forge a U.S. birth
> > certificate?
>
> OK--Obama proved that I was not correct about that story.
>
> I now challenge you to prove that I am not correct about Obama ever being
> a member of a socialist political party called "The New Party".

What a LIAR you are. You still defend the birther movement.

Why do you keep asking others to prove a negative of your own making?

Prove that Romney doesn't eat aborted fetuses every night for dinner.

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tirebiter

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On Jun 27, 8:43 pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article
> <e9b9ffbb-b56d-403a-b6aa-214bd650e...@tx6g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
It was a disgrace on the birthers that it was even an issue. You are
a disgrace. You still are a birther.

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a.a. #2273

Jeanne Douglas

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Jun 27, 2012, 9:20:09 PM6/27/12
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In article
<Jason-27061...@66-53-212-158.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:

> In article
> <e3836108-ea71-4ce5...@f9g2000pbd.googlegroups.com>,
> SkyEyes <skye...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > On Jun 27, 11:29=A0am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > > In article <hh9mu7dghd37dp4slgft4v0h0hjv9e6...@4ax.com>, Ben Kaufman
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > <spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-doll...@pobox.com> wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 13:25:57 +0200, "thomas p." <gudl...@yahoo.com> wro=
> > te:
> > >
> > > > >"Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMpacbell.net> skrev i meddelelsen
> > > > >news:hlwdjsd-AF838E...@5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com...
> > > > >> In article
> > > > >> <Jason-2606122326420...@67-150-127-212.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> > > > >> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > >
> > > > >>> In article <9kdku7tbul3l4g3rula6e9l1te974rh...@4ax.com>, Free Lunch
> > > > >>> <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> > >
> > > > >>> > On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 23:21:26 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrot=
> > e in
> > > > >>> > alt.atheism:
> > >
> > > > >>> > >In article <b6uhu7p27jhinufupst6mpvfrsfm1m7...@4ax.com>, Free Lu=
> > nch
> > > > >>> > ><lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> > >
> > > > >>> > >> On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:10:13 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) w=
> > rote
> > > > >>> > >> in
> > > > >>> > >> alt.atheism:
> > >
> > > > >>> > >> >Obama socialist designs
> > >
> > > > >>> > >> >President=3D92s policies are bent on shattering rule of law
> > >
> > > > >>> > >> >By Jeffrey T. Kuhner
> > > > >>> > >> >The Washington Times
> > > > >>> > >> >Thursday, June 21, 2012
> > >
> > > > >>> > >> Why did you keep posting this piece of evil?
> > >
> > > > >>> > >To let everyone in this newsgroup know about Obama's socialist's
> > > > >>> > >design on
> > > > >>> > >America.
> > >
> > > > >>> > But he does not have any socialist designs. You clearly have no i=
> > dea
> > > > >>> > what you are talking about and are too ignorant to realize that J=
> > eff
> > > > >>> > Kuhner is a dishonest fraud. If you were even remotely honest, yo=
> > u
> > > > >>> > would
> > > > >>> > reject the lies of this article. Clearly you hate what Jesus taug=
> > ht and
> > > > >>> > you hate the United States of America.
> > >
> > > > >>> Stanley Kurtz wrote an article that proves that Obama was once a me=
> > mber
> > > > >>> of
> > > > >>> a political party called "The New Party". It's a socialist politica=
> > l
> > > > >>> party.
> > >
> > > > >> Even if it's true, so what?
> > >
> > > > >And then we have Jason's standards for calling something proved.
> > >
> > > > Like the one about Obama's mom sneaking out of Kenya to forge a U.S. bi=
> > rth
> > > > certificate?
> > >
> > > OK--Obama proved that I was not correct about that story.
> > >
> > > I now challenge you to prove that I am not correct about Obama ever being
> > > a member of a socialist political party called "The New Party".
> >
> > Nobody fucking cares, Jason. People join all sorts of things when
> > they're adolescents. It means *nothing*.
> >
> > Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
> > BAAWA Knight of the Golden Litterbox
> > EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
> > skyeyes nine at cox dot net OR
> > skyeyes nine at yahoo dot com
>
> As you and I are concerned--it means nothing. However, since Obama is the
> leader of America--it means something.

Why?


> It could mean that he is a secret socialist and is keeping that secret
> until after he wins the next election.

Only a complete and total moron would believe something so completely
idiotic.


> If Obama was the president of a law firm or bank--it would not matter.
> Since he is the president of the USA--it does matter.

No, it doesn't.

JD

Jeanne Douglas

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Jun 27, 2012, 9:20:33 PM6/27/12
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In article
<Jason-27061...@66-53-212-158.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:

> In article
> <11813b03-3d5b-4713...@km7g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
> SkyEyes <skye...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > On Jun 26, 11:26=A0pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > > In article <9kdku7tbul3l4g3rula6e9l1te974rh...@4ax.com>, Free Lunch
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> > > > On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 23:21:26 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > > > alt.atheism:
> > >
> > > > >In article <b6uhu7p27jhinufupst6mpvfrsfm1m7...@4ax.com>, Free Lunch
> > > > ><lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> > >
> > > > >> On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:10:13 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote i=
> > n
> > > > >> alt.atheism:
> > >
> > > > >> >Obama socialist designs
> > >
> > > > >> >President=3D92s policies are bent on shattering rule of law
> > >
> > > > >> >By Jeffrey T. Kuhner
> > > > >> >The Washington Times
> > > > >> >Thursday, June 21, 2012
> > >
> > > > >> Why did you keep posting this piece of evil?
> > >
> > > > >To let everyone in this newsgroup know about Obama's socialist's desig=
> > n on
> > > > >America.
> > >
> > > > But he does not have any socialist designs. You clearly have no idea
> > > > what you are talking about and are too ignorant to realize that Jeff
> > > > Kuhner is a dishonest fraud. If you were even remotely honest, you woul=
> > d
> > > > reject the lies of this article. Clearly you hate what Jesus taught and
> > > > you hate the United States of America.
> > >
> > > Stanley Kurtz wrote an article that proves that Obama was once a member o=
> > f
> > > a political party called "The New Party". It's a socialist political
> > > party.
> >
> > So fucking what? I used to be a born-again christian; and now I'm
> > not. Big fucking deal.
> >
> > Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
> > BAAWA Knight of the Golden Litterbox
> > EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
> > skyeyes nine at cox dot net OR
> > skyeyes nine at yahoo dot com
>
> It could become VERY important on the day that you die.

And here Jason proves that he knows he's lost the argument so he
brings out his threat.

Jason's yet another one who supports a god that is a genocidal mass
torturing psychopathic monster. That makes him either a psychopath
himself or an accessory to psychopathy.

JD

tirebiter

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On Jun 27, 6:22 pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article <hlwdjsd-32A4FE.14512227062...@5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com>, Jeanne
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMpacbell.net> wrote:
> > In article
> > <Jason-2706121133330...@66-53-217-227.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> >  Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
> > > In article <mk9mu7pjd14bpqramf58u67ve4vaakd...@4ax.com>, Christopher A.
> > > Lee <chrislee95...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > > > On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 11:28:05 -0400, Ben Kaufman
> > > > <spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-doll...@pobox.com> wrote:
>
> > > > >On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 13:25:57 +0200, "thomas p." <gudl...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > > > >>"Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMpacbell.net> skrev i meddelelsen
> > > > >>news:hlwdjsd-AF838E...@5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com...
> > > > >>> In article
> > > > >>> <Jason-2606122326420...@67-150-127-212.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> > > > >>> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
> > > > >>>> In article <9kdku7tbul3l4g3rula6e9l1te974rh...@4ax.com>, Free Lunch
> > > > >>>> <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>
> > > > >>>> > On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 23:21:26 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote
> > > > >>>> > in
> > > > >>>> > alt.atheism:
>
> > > > >>>> > >In article <b6uhu7p27jhinufupst6mpvfrsfm1m7...@4ax.com>,
> Free Lunch
> > > > >>>> > ><lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>
> > > > >>>> > >> On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:10:13 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason)
> > > > >>>> > >> wrote
> > > > >>>> > >> in
> > > > >>>> > >> alt.atheism:
>
> > > > >>>> > >> >Obama socialist designs
>
> > > > >>>> > >> >President=92s policies are bent on shattering rule of law
>
> > > > >>>> > >> >By Jeffrey T. Kuhner
> > > > >>>> > >> >The Washington Times
> > > > >>>> > >> >Thursday, June 21, 2012
>
> > > > >>>> > >> Why did you keep posting this piece of evil?
>
> > > > >>>> > >To let everyone in this newsgroup know about Obama's socialist's
> > > > >>>> > >design on
> > > > >>>> > >America.
>
> > > > >>>> > But he does not have any socialist designs. You clearly have
> no idea
> > > > >>>> > what you are talking about and are too ignorant to realize
> that Jeff
> > > > >>>> > Kuhner is a dishonest fraud. If you were even remotely honest, you
> > > > >>>> > would
> > > > >>>> > reject the lies of this article. Clearly you hate what Jesus
> taught
> > > > >>>> > and
> > > > >>>> > you hate the United States of America.
>
> > > > >>>> Stanley Kurtz wrote an article that proves that Obama was once a
> > > > >>>> member
> > > > >>>> of
> > > > >>>> a political party called "The New Party". It's a socialist political
> > > > >>>> party.
>
> > > > >>> Even if it's true, so what?
>
> > > > >>And then we have Jason's standards for calling something proved.
>
> > > > >Like the one about Obama's mom sneaking out of Kenya to forge a
> U.S. birth
> > > > >certificate?
>
> > > > Because she knew he was going to be a US Presidential candidate a few
> > > > decades later.
>
> > > NO--We believed the reason for that action was to make her son (Obama)
> > > into a legal citizen of America. Lot's of women from Mexico do the same
> > > kind of thing. They come to America to have their babies since they know
> > > that will mean their babies will become legal citizens of America.
>
> > Obama's mother was an American citizen, so it's irrelevant where her
> > children were born. The only thing being born overseas would mean is
> > dual citizenship in countries that apply citizenship to all born in its
> > borders.
>
> That may be a FACT but it does not mean that the mother of Obama knew that
> it was a fact. It does not matter. When Obama released to the news media a
> copy of his long form birth certificate--the birther movement ended.
>
> We do deserve the credit for forcing a president to do what he did not
> want to do.

SEE??? You are STILL defending the birther lies. Why wouldn't a woman
who was destined to earn a PhD just check with the U.S. Government
about immigration of children born abroad BEFORE she hatches an
elaborate conspiracy to falsify his birth?

For that matter, why would a pregnant woman travel to Kenya in 1961
when such a trip would take days each way, and it would be pretty
clear that Kenya would have substandard natal care?

Why do you still lie about this Jason?

---
a.a. #2273

Jeanne Douglas

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Jun 27, 2012, 9:22:43 PM6/27/12
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In article
<Jason-27061...@66-53-212-158.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:

> In article <hlwdjsd-BB50C2...@5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com>, Jeanne
> Douglas <hlw...@NOSPAMpacbell.net> wrote:
>
> > In article
> > <Jason-27061...@67-150-122-172.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> >
> > > In article
> > > <c609117c-0ad9-4e1c...@m8g2000yqo.googlegroups.com>, "Syd
> > > M." <pauldav...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Jun 27, 2:24=A0pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > > > > In article <hlwdjsd-AF838E.00011327062...@5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com>,
> > > > > Jeanne
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMpacbell.net> wrote:
> > > > > > In article
> > > > > > <Jason-2606122326420...@67-150-127-212.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> > > > > > =A0Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > > In article <9kdku7tbul3l4g3rula6e9l1te974rh...@4ax.com>, Free
> > > > > > > Lunch
> > > > > > > <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 23:21:26 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason)
> wrote =
> > > > in
> > > > > > > > alt.atheism:
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > >In article <b6uhu7p27jhinufupst6mpvfrsfm1m7...@4ax.com>,
> Free Lunc=
> > > > h
> > > > > > > > ><lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:10:13 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com
> (Jason) wro=
> > > > te in
> > > > > > > > >> alt.atheism:
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> >Obama socialist designs
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> >President=3D92s policies are bent on shattering rule of law
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> >By Jeffrey T. Kuhner
> > > > > > > > >> >The Washington Times
> > > > > > > > >> >Thursday, June 21, 2012
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> Why did you keep posting this piece of evil?
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > >To let everyone in this newsgroup know about Obama's
> > > > > > > > >socialist's
> > > > > design on
> > > > > > > > >America.
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > But he does not have any socialist designs. You clearly have
> no ide=
> > > > a
> > > > > > > > what you are talking about and are too ignorant to realize
> that Jef=
> > > > f
> > > > > > > > Kuhner is a dishonest fraud. If you were even remotely
> honest, you =
> > > > would
> > > > > > > > reject the lies of this article. Clearly you hate what Jesus
> taught=
> > > > and
> > > > > > > > you hate the United States of America.
> > > > >
> > > > > > > Stanley Kurtz wrote an article that proves that Obama was once
> a memb=
> > > > er of
> > > > > > > a political party called "The New Party". It's a socialist
> > > > > > > political
> > > > > > > party.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Even if it's true, so what?
> > > > >
> > > > > It may NOT be important to you but is important to the
> conservatives that
> > > > > do NOT want America to ever become a socialist country. Obama appears
> > > > > to
> > > > > me to be trying to make America into a socialist country.
> > > >
> > > > And you continue to be wrong, loser.
> > >
> > > ObamaCare is clearly a socialist program. The federal gov't will control
> > > it. It is called socialized medicine.
> >
> > That's 3 lies in just 2 sentences.
>
> or three truths in just 2 sentences.

I can prove that you lied. You cannot prove that your assertions are
true.

JD

Jeanne Douglas

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Jun 27, 2012, 9:21:25 PM6/27/12
to
In article
<55d3567d-56be-4a02...@nw7g2000pbb.googlegroups.com>,
SkyEyes <skye...@cox.net> wrote:

> On Jun 27, 2:51 pm, Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMpacbell.net> wrote:
> > In article
> > <Jason-2706121133330...@66-53-217-227.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > > In article <mk9mu7pjd14bpqramf58u67ve4vaakd...@4ax.com>, Christopher A.
> > > Lee <chrislee95...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > > > On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 11:28:05 -0400, Ben Kaufman
> > > > <spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-doll...@pobox.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > >On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 13:25:57 +0200, "thomas p." <gudl...@yahoo.com>
> > > > >wrote:
> >
> > > > >>"Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMpacbell.net> skrev i meddelelsen
> > > > >>news:hlwdjsd-AF838E...@5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com...
> > > > >>> In article
> > > > >>> <Jason-2606122326420...@67-150-127-212.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> > > > >>> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> >
> > > > >>>> In article <9kdku7tbul3l4g3rula6e9l1te974rh...@4ax.com>, Free
> > > > >>>> Lunch
> > > > >>>> <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >
> > > > >>>> > On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 23:21:26 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason)
> > > > >>>> > wrote
> > > > >>>> > in
> > > > >>>> > alt.atheism:
> >
> > > > >>>> > >In article <b6uhu7p27jhinufupst6mpvfrsfm1m7...@4ax.com>, Free
> > > > >>>> > >Lunch
> > > > >>>> > ><lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >
> > > > >>>> > >> On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:10:13 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason)
> > > > >>>> > >> wrote
> > > > >>>> > >> in
> > > > >>>> > >> alt.atheism:
> >
> > > > >>>> > >> >Obama socialist designs
> >
> > > > >>>> > >> >President=92s policies are bent on shattering rule of law
> >
> > > > >>>> > >> >By Jeffrey T. Kuhner
> > > > >>>> > >> >The Washington Times
> > > > >>>> > >> >Thursday, June 21, 2012
> >
> > > > >>>> > >> Why did you keep posting this piece of evil?
> >
> > > > >>>> > >To let everyone in this newsgroup know about Obama's
> > > > >>>> > >socialist's
> > > > >>>> > >design on
> > > > >>>> > >America.
> >
> > > > >>>> > But he does not have any socialist designs. You clearly have no
> > > > >>>> > idea
> > > > >>>> > what you are talking about and are too ignorant to realize that
> > > > >>>> > Jeff
> > > > >>>> > Kuhner is a dishonest fraud. If you were even remotely honest,
> > > > >>>> > you
> > > > >>>> > would
> > > > >>>> > reject the lies of this article. Clearly you hate what Jesus
> > > > >>>> > taught
> > > > >>>> > and
> > > > >>>> > you hate the United States of America.
> >
> > > > >>>> Stanley Kurtz wrote an article that proves that Obama was once a
> > > > >>>> member
> > > > >>>> of
> > > > >>>> a political party called "The New Party". It's a socialist
> > > > >>>> political
> > > > >>>> party.
> >
> > > > >>> Even if it's true, so what?
> >
> > > > >>And then we have Jason's standards for calling something proved.
> >
> > > > >Like the one about Obama's mom sneaking out of Kenya to forge a U.S.
> > > > >birth
> > > > >certificate?
> >
> > > > Because she knew he was going to be a US Presidential candidate a few
> > > > decades later.
> >
> > > NO--We believed the reason for that action was to make her son (Obama)
> > > into a legal citizen of America. Lot's of women from Mexico do the same
> > > kind of thing. They come to America to have their babies since they know
> > > that will mean their babies will become legal citizens of America.
> >
> > Obama's mother was an American citizen, so it's irrelevant where her
> > children were born. The only thing being born overseas would mean is
> > dual citizenship in countries that apply citizenship to all born in its
> > borders.
>
> Yes, like my nephew Angel, who was born in Spain (his father was
> serving in the U.S. Air Force at Torrejon AFB) but is a dual citizen,
> but still a natural-born U.S. citizen.
>
> Sheesh. All these people have to do is READ THE FUCKING RULES.
> What's so hard about that?

It's easier to believe the lies that support your bigotry and racism.

JD

Jeanne Douglas

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Jun 27, 2012, 9:22:04 PM6/27/12
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> We do deserve the credit for forcing a president to do what he did not
> want to do.

The only thing you "deserve" is calumny for wasting the time of the
most important man in the world, time that could be better spent
trying to solve real problems.

JD
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