Pray for Christchurch
Meteorite Debris
"pray for Chrictchurch." The rescue workers have saved more people than
any god.
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James Kendall
> Looking at Twits about the Christchurch earthquake and so many want to
> "pray for Chrictchurch." The rescue workers have saved more people than
> any god.
>
>
Do you really not understand that the prayers have been for the rescue
workers to be able to find and save those trapped by the earthquake?
Somebody once said that atheists will slowly go insane. I'm starting to
believe that's true.
--JK
raven1
Why do atheists go insane? From listening to drivel like that from
believers.
Olrik
Yup. What James is actually saying is: "We need to pray this "god" thing
because otherwise it will hide, kill or trap even more people!"
:-D
Christopher A. Lee
<jrke...@rightnet.net> wrote:
>On 2/22/2011 9:54 AM, Meteorite Debris wrote:
>> Looking at Twits about the Christchurch earthquake and so many want to
>> "pray for Chrictchurch." The rescue workers have saved more people than
>> any god.
>>
>>
>
>Do you really not understand that the prayers have been for the rescue
>workers to be able to find and save those trapped by the earthquake?
Did the article say "pray for the workers", or do you have
difficulties reaing for comprehension?
Do you really not understand prayers don't do anything except make
people who aren't doing anything about it, feel they are?
>Somebody once said that atheists will slowly go insane. I'm starting to
>believe that's true.
This from the retard who lives in his own little fantasy world and
imagines magic incantations work.
>--JK
>
Don Martin
wrote:
>On 2/22/2011 9:54 AM, Meteorite Debris wrote:
>> Looking at Twits about the Christchurch earthquake and so many want to
>> "pray for Chrictchurch." The rescue workers have saved more people than
>> any god.
>>
>>
>
>Do you really not understand that the prayers have been for the rescue
>workers to be able to find and save those trapped by the earthquake?
And the evidence for such prayers having a positive effect upon the search
efforts of rescue workers, here and in other disasters, is what, precisely?
>Somebody once said that atheists will slowly go insane. I'm starting to
>believe that's true.
We are not the ones offering empty (and cheap) prayers to improve the aim of
others. We are more likely to send money. And that is, to you, insane?
-
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Uncle Vic
news:MPG.27ce72416...@news.ade.connect.com.au:
> Looking at Twits about the Christchurch earthquake and so many want to
> "pray for Chrictchurch." The rescue workers have saved more people than
> any god.
>
>
The only thing that might have an impact, if there is a god that wants to
intervene, would be to pray for him to roll time back and prevent the
earthquake from stiking a populated area. Hell, the guy made the sun stand
still back in bibletime, and if bibletime actually happened...
--
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Member EAC Bitchslapping Dept.
Christopher A. Lee
<drdon...@comcast.net> wrote:
>On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 10:46:39 -0500, James Kendall <jrke...@rightnet.net>
>wrote:
>
>>On 2/22/2011 9:54 AM, Meteorite Debris wrote:
>>> Looking at Twits about the Christchurch earthquake and so many want to
>>> "pray for Chrictchurch." The rescue workers have saved more people than
>>> any god.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Do you really not understand that the prayers have been for the rescue
>>workers to be able to find and save those trapped by the earthquake?
>
>And the evidence for such prayers having a positive effect upon the search
>efforts of rescue workers, here and in other disasters, is what, precisely?
>
>>Somebody once said that atheists will slowly go insane. I'm starting to
>>believe that's true.
>
>We are not the ones offering empty (and cheap) prayers to improve the aim of
>others. We are more likely to send money. And that is, to you, insane?
On his planet, insaity means living in the real world instead of his
fantasy one.
Uncle Vic
@news.eternal-september.org:
> On 2/22/2011 9:54 AM, Meteorite Debris wrote:
>> Looking at Twits about the Christchurch earthquake and so many want to
>> "pray for Chrictchurch." The rescue workers have saved more people than
>> any god.
>>
>>
>
> Do you really not understand that the prayers have been for the rescue
> workers to be able to find and save those trapped by the earthquake?
Wouldn't this be an action against your god's will, moron?
>
> Somebody once said that atheists will slowly go insane. I'm starting to
> believe that's true.
>
If you don't like us, stay the fuck out of our newsgroup, asshole.
James Kendall
> James Kendall<jrke...@rightnet.net> wrote in news:ik0lp2$tc8$1
> @news.eternal-september.org:
>
>> On 2/22/2011 9:54 AM, Meteorite Debris wrote:
>>> Looking at Twits about the Christchurch earthquake and so many want to
>>> "pray for Chrictchurch." The rescue workers have saved more people than
>>> any god.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Do you really not understand that the prayers have been for the rescue
>> workers to be able to find and save those trapped by the earthquake?
>
> Wouldn't this be an action against your god's will, moron?
>
No. Idiot.
>>
>> Somebody once said that atheists will slowly go insane. I'm starting to
>> believe that's true.
>>
>
> If you don't like us, stay the fuck out of our newsgroup, asshole.
>
No. Idiot.
Les Hellawell
<jrke...@rightnet.net> wrote:
>On 2/22/2011 9:54 AM, Meteorite Debris wrote:
>> Looking at Twits about the Christchurch earthquake and so many want to
>> "pray for Chrictchurch." The rescue workers have saved more people than
>> any god.
>>
>>
>
>Do you really not understand that the prayers have been for the rescue
>workers to be able to find and save those trapped by the earthquake?
They have specially trained dogs and other techniques for doing that.
Specialist volunteer teams from mountain rescue organisations in the
UK are winging their way to NZ as I type. Just a small part of a
stand-bye world wide expertise that is now converging there as quick
as they can. As well as experts there are also stock piles of
essential requirement at strategic places that will also be flown
in.
>
>Somebody once said that atheists will slowly go insane. I'm starting to
>believe that's true.
You religious types will believe anything and do.
Les Hellawell
Greetings from:
Yorkshire -The White Rose County
James Kendall
> On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 10:46:39 -0500, James Kendall<jrke...@rightnet.net>
> wrote:
>
>> On 2/22/2011 9:54 AM, Meteorite Debris wrote:
>>> Looking at Twits about the Christchurch earthquake and so many want to
>>> "pray for Chrictchurch." The rescue workers have saved more people than
>>> any god.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Do you really not understand that the prayers have been for the rescue
>> workers to be able to find and save those trapped by the earthquake?
>
> And the evidence for such prayers having a positive effect upon the search
> efforts of rescue workers, here and in other disasters, is what, precisely?
>
Those trapped by the earthquake are being found, and saved.
Could you not figure that part out by yourself?
>> Somebody once said that atheists will slowly go insane. I'm starting to
>> believe that's true.
>
> We are not the ones offering empty (and cheap) prayers to improve the aim of
> others. We are more likely to send money. And that is, to you, insane?
>
I believe you're already starting to show signs of insanity. You're
imagining things with no rational reason for doing so. I never said
anything that would allow you to infer that sending money would be insane.
I'm starting to believe it even more now.
Christopher A. Lee
<jrke...@rightnet.net> wrote:
>On 2/22/2011 1:55 PM, Uncle Vic wrote:
>> James Kendall<jrke...@rightnet.net> wrote in news:ik0lp2$tc8$1
>> @news.eternal-september.org:
>>
>>> On 2/22/2011 9:54 AM, Meteorite Debris wrote:
>>>> Looking at Twits about the Christchurch earthquake and so many want to
>>>> "pray for Chrictchurch." The rescue workers have saved more people than
>>>> any god.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Do you really not understand that the prayers have been for the rescue
>>> workers to be able to find and save those trapped by the earthquake?
>>
>> Wouldn't this be an action against your god's will, moron?
>>
>
>No. Idiot.
This from the deluded idiot living in his own little fantasy world and
imagines people are insane for not sharing his delusion.
>>> Somebody once said that atheists will slowly go insane. I'm starting to
>>> believe that's true.
>>>
>>
>> If you don't like us, stay the fuck out of our newsgroup, asshole.
>>
>
>No. Idiot.
An admission that he is here to be an asshole just for the sake of it.
Christopher A. Lee
<l...@fakeaddress.com> wrote:
>On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 10:46:39 -0500, James Kendall
><jrke...@rightnet.net> wrote:
>
>>On 2/22/2011 9:54 AM, Meteorite Debris wrote:
>>> Looking at Twits about the Christchurch earthquake and so many want to
>>> "pray for Chrictchurch." The rescue workers have saved more people than
>>> any god.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Do you really not understand that the prayers have been for the rescue
>>workers to be able to find and save those trapped by the earthquake?
>
>They have specially trained dogs and other techniques for doing that.
>Specialist volunteer teams from mountain rescue organisations in the
>UK are winging their way to NZ as I type. Just a small part of a
>stand-bye world wide expertise that is now converging there as quick
>as they can. As well as experts there are also stock piles of
>essential requirement at strategic places that will also be flown
>in.
Provided by people,not by his pretend friend.
>>Somebody once said that atheists will slowly go insane. I'm starting to
>>believe that's true.
>
>You religious types will believe anything and do.
This psycho gives a perfect example why intelligent people including
many of his co-religionists treat his kind of religiously motivated
bigoted fanatic with such disdain.
James Kendall
> On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 10:46:39 -0500, James Kendall
> <jrke...@rightnet.net> wrote:
>
>> On 2/22/2011 9:54 AM, Meteorite Debris wrote:
>>> Looking at Twits about the Christchurch earthquake and so many want to
>>> "pray for Chrictchurch." The rescue workers have saved more people than
>>> any god.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Do you really not understand that the prayers have been for the rescue
>> workers to be able to find and save those trapped by the earthquake?
>
> They have specially trained dogs and other techniques for doing that.
> Specialist volunteer teams from mountain rescue organisations in the
> UK are winging their way to NZ as I type. Just a small part of a
> stand-bye world wide expertise that is now converging there as quick
> as they can. As well as experts there are also stock piles of
> essential requirement at strategic places that will also be flown
> in.
>
That's more evidence that the prayers are being answered.
But I couldn't expect you to believe that. So don't even try.
>>
>> Somebody once said that atheists will slowly go insane. I'm starting to
>> believe that's true.
>
> You religious types will believe anything and do.
>
There is very good evidence that atheists have a propensity for going
insane. I believe Friedrich Nietzsche is just one of many prime
examples of how atheists slowly go insane.
Christopher A. Lee
<jrke...@rightnet.net> wrote:
>On 2/22/2011 1:48 PM, Don Martin wrote:
>> On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 10:46:39 -0500, James Kendall<jrke...@rightnet.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2/22/2011 9:54 AM, Meteorite Debris wrote:
>>>> Looking at Twits about the Christchurch earthquake and so many want to
>>>> "pray for Chrictchurch." The rescue workers have saved more people than
>>>> any god.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Do you really not understand that the prayers have been for the rescue
>>> workers to be able to find and save those trapped by the earthquake?
>>
>> And the evidence for such prayers having a positive effect upon the search
>> efforts of rescue workers, here and in other disasters, is what, precisely?
>>
>
>Those trapped by the earthquake are being found, and saved.
>
>Could you not figure that part out by yourself?
Where did you demonstrate that prayers to your pretend friend had
anything to do with it, imbecile?
>>> Somebody once said that atheists will slowly go insane. I'm starting to
>>> believe that's true.
>>
>> We are not the ones offering empty (and cheap) prayers to improve the aim of
>> others. We are more likely to send money. And that is, to you, insane?
>>
>
>I believe you're already starting to show signs of insanity. You're
I know you are a deliberately nasty, pig-ignorant, deluded religious
fanatic.
>imagining things with no rational reason for doing so. I never said
>anything that would allow you to infer that sending money would be insane.
He applied your own logic to what you said, imbecile.
>I'm starting to believe it even more now.
The only insanity here is yours.
You came looking for us to act like an asshole, we didn't treat you
like one out of the blue.
Christopher A. Lee
<jrke...@rightnet.net> wrote:
>On 2/22/2011 2:04 PM, Les Hellawell wrote:
>> On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 10:46:39 -0500, James Kendall
>> <jrke...@rightnet.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2/22/2011 9:54 AM, Meteorite Debris wrote:
>>>> Looking at Twits about the Christchurch earthquake and so many want to
>>>> "pray for Chrictchurch." The rescue workers have saved more people than
>>>> any god.
>>>>
>>> Do you really not understand that the prayers have been for the rescue
>>> workers to be able to find and save those trapped by the earthquake?
>>
>> They have specially trained dogs and other techniques for doing that.
>> Specialist volunteer teams from mountain rescue organisations in the
>> UK are winging their way to NZ as I type. Just a small part of a
>> stand-bye world wide expertise that is now converging there as quick
>> as they can. As well as experts there are also stock piles of
>> essential requirement at strategic places that will also be flown
>> in.
>>
>
>That's more evidence that the prayers are being answered.
Liar.
>But I couldn't expect you to believe that. So don't even try.
Nobody could expect you to prove it was due to prayers to your pretend
friend, imbecile.
So don't even try.
Just carry on being an in-your-face moron.
>>> Somebody once said that atheists will slowly go insane. I'm starting to
>>> believe that's true.
>>
>> You religious types will believe anything and do.
>>
>
>There is very good evidence that atheists have a propensity for going
>insane. I believe Friedrich Nietzsche is just one of many prime
>examples of how atheists slowly go insane.
Here the deluded lunatic living in his own little fantasy world
imagines the exact equivalent of not believing in the fairies at the
bottom of the garden, makes people slowly go insane.
Was he a nasty, stupid jerk already before he got religion or did it
make him one?
Apostate
Or there's the direct approach: "Hey! Motherfucker! Wake the fuck
up and be useful, why don'tcha?"
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Armageddon Fred
>Looking at Twits about the Christchurch earthquake and so many want to
>"pray for Chrictchurch." The rescue workers have saved more people than
>any god.
Praying at themselves makes them feel as if they're doing something.
---
"Tide goes in. Tide goes out." -- Christianity's best proof for gods yet.
Don Martin
wrote:
>On 2/22/2011 1:55 PM, Uncle Vic wrote:
>> James Kendall<jrke...@rightnet.net> wrote in news:ik0lp2$tc8$1
>> @news.eternal-september.org:
>>
>>> On 2/22/2011 9:54 AM, Meteorite Debris wrote:
>>>> Looking at Twits about the Christchurch earthquake and so many want to
>>>> "pray for Chrictchurch." The rescue workers have saved more people than
>>>> any god.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Do you really not understand that the prayers have been for the rescue
>>> workers to be able to find and save those trapped by the earthquake?
>>
>> Wouldn't this be an action against your god's will, moron?
>>
>
>No. Idiot.
Who caused the bloody earthquake?
>>>
>>> Somebody once said that atheists will slowly go insane. I'm starting to
>>> believe that's true.
>>>
>>
>> If you don't like us, stay the fuck out of our newsgroup, asshole.
>>
>
>No. Idiot.
You will stay here, like a used fart in an elevator, despite the fact that you
apparently find atheists insane or idiotic? Your behavior does not argue well
for the condition of your own mind.
Don Martin
wrote:
>On 2/22/2011 1:48 PM, Don Martin wrote:
>> On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 10:46:39 -0500, James Kendall<jrke...@rightnet.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2/22/2011 9:54 AM, Meteorite Debris wrote:
>>>> Looking at Twits about the Christchurch earthquake and so many want to
>>>> "pray for Chrictchurch." The rescue workers have saved more people than
>>>> any god.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Do you really not understand that the prayers have been for the rescue
>>> workers to be able to find and save those trapped by the earthquake?
>>
>> And the evidence for such prayers having a positive effect upon the search
>> efforts of rescue workers, here and in other disasters, is what, precisely?
>>
>
>Those trapped by the earthquake are being found, and saved.
Are greater numbers being rescued when the objects of prayer than are rescued
without? What comparative numbers do you have?
>Could you not figure that part out by yourself?
Apparently, you cannot.
>>> Somebody once said that atheists will slowly go insane. I'm starting to
>>> believe that's true.
>>
>> We are not the ones offering empty (and cheap) prayers to improve the aim of
>> others. We are more likely to send money. And that is, to you, insane?
>>
>
>I believe you're already starting to show signs of insanity. You're
>imagining things with no rational reason for doing so. I never said
>anything that would allow you to infer that sending money would be insane.
>
>I'm starting to believe it even more now.
Well, I am sure that that will be a welcome addition to the rest of your
masturbatory fantasies.
Scott Balneaves
> On 2/22/2011 9:54 AM, Meteorite Debris wrote:
>> Looking at Twits about the Christchurch earthquake and so many want to
>> "pray for Chrictchurch." The rescue workers have saved more people than
>> any god.
>>
>>
>
> Do you really not understand that the prayers have been for the rescue
> workers to be able to find and save those trapped by the earthquake?
Why didn't God just stop the earthquake?
tirebiter
> On 2/22/2011 9:54 AM, Meteorite Debris wrote:
>
> > Looking at Twits about the Christchurch earthquake and so many want to
> > "pray for Chrictchurch." The rescue workers have saved more people than
> > any god.
>
> Do you really not understand that the prayers have been for the rescue
> workers to be able to find and save those trapped by the earthquake?
>
Pray into one hand and crap into the other. See which hand fills up
first.
> Somebody once said that atheists will slowly go insane. I'm starting to
> believe that's true.
>
"Somebody" eh? Who exactly?
---
a.a. #2273
> --JK
tirebiter
> On 2/22/2011 2:04 PM, Les Hellawell wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 10:46:39 -0500, James Kendall
>
> >> On 2/22/2011 9:54 AM, Meteorite Debris wrote:
> >>> Looking at Twits about the Christchurch earthquake and so many want to
> >>> "pray for Chrictchurch." The rescue workers have saved more people than
> >>> any god.
>
> >> Do you really not understand that the prayers have been for the rescue
> >> workers to be able to find and save those trapped by the earthquake?
>
> > They have specially trained dogs and other techniques for doing that.
> > Specialist volunteer teams from mountain rescue organisations in the
> > UK are winging their way to NZ as I type. Just a small part of a
> > stand-bye world wide expertise that is now converging there as quick
> > as they can. As well as experts there are also stock piles of
> > essential requirement at strategic places that will also be flown
> > in.
>
> That's more evidence that the prayers are being answered.
> But I couldn't expect you to believe that. So don't even try.
>
>
If we were to pray that there wouldn't be a sunrise tomorrow, do you
think it would affect the chances of it happening?
>
> >> Somebody once said that atheists will slowly go insane. I'm starting to
> >> believe that's true.
>
> > You religious types will believe anything and do.
>
> There is very good evidence that atheists have a propensity for going
> insane. I believe Friedrich Nietzsche is just one of many prime
> examples of how atheists slowly go insane.
You made this claim up and now you're pretending it has any credence.
---
a.a. #2273
Buddythunder
> On 2/22/2011 2:04 PM, Les Hellawell wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 10:46:39 -0500, James Kendall
>
> >> On 2/22/2011 9:54 AM, Meteorite Debris wrote:
> >>> Looking at Twits about the Christchurch earthquake and so many want to
> >>> "pray for Chrictchurch." The rescue workers have saved more people than
> >>> any god.
>
> >> Do you really not understand that the prayers have been for the rescue
> >> workers to be able to find and save those trapped by the earthquake?
>
> > They have specially trained dogs and other techniques for doing that.
> > Specialist volunteer teams from mountain rescue organisations in the
> > UK are winging their way to NZ as I type. Just a small part of a
> > stand-bye world wide expertise that is now converging there as quick
> > as they can. As well as experts there are also stock piles of
> > essential requirement at strategic places that will also be flown
> > in.
>
> That's more evidence that the prayers are being answered.
> But I couldn't expect you to believe that. So don't even try.
Who would? That utterly devalues the response of the people to this
tragedy. It's people, not invisible phantasms, that are working hard
to come to the rescue of the victims in Christchurch.
> >> Somebody once said that atheists will slowly go insane. I'm starting to
> >> believe that's true.
>
> > You religious types will believe anything and do.
>
> There is very good evidence that atheists have a propensity for going
> insane. I believe Friedrich Nietzsche is just one of many prime
> examples of how atheists slowly go insane.
I'm not aware that any serious people thought Nietzsche insane. Do you
have support for this belief?
Don Martin
wrote:
>On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 13:24:39 -0800 (PST), tirebiter
><dontsp...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>
>>On Feb 22, 10:46 am, James Kendall <jrkend...@rightnet.net> wrote:
>>> On 2/22/2011 9:54 AM, Meteorite Debris wrote:
>>>
>>> > Looking at Twits about the Christchurch earthquake and so many want to
>>> > "pray for Chrictchurch." The rescue workers have saved more people than
>>> > any god.
>>>
>>> Do you really not understand that the prayers have been for the rescue
>>> workers to be able to find and save those trapped by the earthquake?
>>>
>>
>>Pray into one hand and crap into the other. See which hand fills up
>>first.
>>
>
>Ever tried it yourself?
Yup. And he sold the shit to a recycler, who made it into another christian.
Christopher A. Lee
<drdon...@comcast.net> wrote:
>On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 16:27:37 -0500, Richard P Johnson <dickj...@peterman.rod>
>wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 13:24:39 -0800 (PST), tirebiter
>><dontsp...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Feb 22, 10:46 am, James Kendall <jrkend...@rightnet.net> wrote:
>>>> On 2/22/2011 9:54 AM, Meteorite Debris wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Looking at Twits about the Christchurch earthquake and so many want to
>>>> > "pray for Chrictchurch." The rescue workers have saved more people than
>>>> > any god.
>>>>
>>>> Do you really not understand that the prayers have been for the rescue
>>>> workers to be able to find and save those trapped by the earthquake?
>>>>
>>>
>>>Pray into one hand and crap into the other. See which hand fills up
>>>first.
>>>
>>
>>Ever tried it yourself?
>
>Yup. And he sold the shit to a recycler, who made it into another christian.
As this thread is only on alt.atheism and the remark about prayer was
from an atheist to fellow atheists, Kendall didn't have any excuse for
his stupidity.
Brian E. Clark
jrke...@rightnet.net says...
> On 2/22/2011 9:54 AM, Meteorite Debris wrote:
> > Looking at Twits about the Christchurch earthquake and so many want to
> > "pray for Chrictchurch." The rescue workers have saved more people than
> > any god.
>
> Do you really not understand that the prayers have been for the rescue
> workers to be able to find and save those trapped by the earthquake?
A few points and questions:
1) The article did not in fact indicate that faithful were
asking God to help the workers find the victims.
2) Why would the rescue workers need this help? They've
done well so far, and they have all manner of auxiliary
equipment and resources at their disposal. Is God
deliberately keeping people hidden from the rescuers until
some housewife in Houston says the correct magic words?
3) If God is concerned about the survivors, why doesn't he
just pluck them out the rubble himself?
4) Why did God put those survivors in such danger in the
first place?
5) For that matter, why did God kill so many people?
--
-----------
Brian E. Clark
Loirbaj
What are some of your fav prayers. I remember some from early on,
Our Father Who art in Heaven
Hallowed be Thy Name
Thy Kingdom come
Thy will be done
On earth as it is in Heaven
Uncle Vic
news:9v78m6dr1fuua6vrf...@4ax.com:
>>On 2/22/2011 1:55 PM, Uncle Vic wrote:
>>> James Kendall<jrke...@rightnet.net> wrote in news:ik0lp2$tc8$1
>>> @news.eternal-september.org:
>>>
>>>> On 2/22/2011 9:54 AM, Meteorite Debris wrote:
>>>>> Looking at Twits about the Christchurch earthquake and so many
>>>>> want to "pray for Chrictchurch." The rescue workers have saved
>>>>> more people than any god.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Do you really not understand that the prayers have been for the
>>>> rescue workers to be able to find and save those trapped by the
>>>> earthquake?
>>>
>>> Wouldn't this be an action against your god's will, moron?
>>>
>>
>>No. Idiot.
>
> Who caused the bloody earthquake?
Even most insurance companies make reference to "Acts of God". Do these
morons ever think before they speak?
Buddythunder
Look, someone incanting magic words and feeling all gooey inside. Hare
hare hare, hare krishna, krishna krishna.
Meanwhile, I've just done something actually useful. I donated fifty
bucks to the appeal. If you are so moved, perhaps you would like to
follow suit. http://www.redcross.org.nz/donate
Kelsey Bjarnason
On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 10:46:39 -0500, James Kendall wrote:
> On 2/22/2011 9:54 AM, Meteorite Debris wrote:
>> Looking at Twits about the Christchurch earthquake and so many want to
>> "pray for Chrictchurch." The rescue workers have saved more people than
>> any god.
>>
>>
>>
> Do you really not understand that the prayers have been for the rescue
> workers to be able to find and save those trapped by the earthquake?
Here's something to mull over. Assume you're a rescue worker. You can
adopt one of two methods for locating victims to rescue.
The first is to get in there and root around, dig, move stuff aside, send
in dogs and cameras and other people, investigate every nook and cranny.
It's slow and painstaking and often dangerous, but chances are you'll
find them.
The second is to grab a coffee and a pad of paper. Put pad of paper on
desk, sit back and drink coffee. If God wishes you to find the victims,
he will jot down their locations on the pad of paper. When he does, put
down the coffee, go rescue the victims.
Which strategy do *you* think is going to rescue more people?
While we're at it, which method do *you* think would seriously piss off
all the people praying that God will help the rescuers find the victim?
I rather suspect they'd be *very* upset to find the rescuers sitting
around with coffee and pads of paper, waiting for God to write down the
answers... yet that is *exactly* what the rescuers would be best off
doing if praying were of any value at all.
No, it's precisely by ignoring such asinine tripe and relying on *human*
efforts that the victims are rescued. Pray all you want, just don't
pretend it actually means anything.
--
Information vanishes by magic. -- Michael Gray (paraphrased)
Kelsey Bjarnason
On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 14:08:41 -0500, James Kendall wrote:
>> And the evidence for such prayers having a positive effect upon the
>> search efforts of rescue workers, here and in other disasters, is what,
>> precisely?
>>
>>
> Those trapped by the earthquake are being found, and saved.
No, let's really test this "prayer works" hypothesis. We'll wait until
some disaster hits a primarily "believing" group of people - say, a
church collapsing during services.
Then we'll have the rescuers sit around with pads of paper, sipping
coffee, until the prayers produce the locations of the victims on the
pads of paper, so the rescuers know where to look.
No locations on the paper? That means one of two things: there *are* no
victims, or the utility of prayer in such situations is zero.
Would *you* want the rescuers to sit around waiting for the prayers to
work? Or would you want them to ignore that sort of asinine stupidity
and get in there and *look* for the victims?
Careful how you answer: if you want them to look, you are arguing that
prayer is worthless in such cases; if you want them to wait for the
prayers to be effective, you're condemning all the victims to an
otherwise possibly avoidable death.
So which is it? Rely on prayer? Or toss that garbage in the trash heap
where it belongs, get in there and actually do something useful?
Meteorite Debris
chipped away at his/her stone these gems of wisdom for posterity ...
> On 2/22/2011 9:54 AM, Meteorite Debris wrote:
> > Looking at Twits about the Christchurch earthquake and so many want to
> > "pray for Chrictchurch." The rescue workers have saved more people than
> > any god.
> >
> >
>
> Do you really not understand that the prayers have been for the rescue
> workers to be able to find and save those trapped by the earthquake?
What is the isolated "god effect" when the rescue worker does nothing?
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Michael Gray
>On 2/22/2011 9:54 AM, Meteorite Debris wrote:
>> Looking at Twits about the Christchurch earthquake and so many want to
>> "pray for Chrictchurch." The rescue workers have saved more people than
>> any god.
>>
>>
>
>Do you really not understand that the prayers have been for the rescue
>workers to be able to find and save those trapped by the earthquake?
>
>Somebody once said that atheists will slowly go insane. I'm starting to
>believe that's true.
Whereas the faithfull are already insane.
--
Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, is still there
Christopher A. Lee
<mike...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 10:46:39 -0500, James Kendall
><jrke...@rightnet.net> wrote:
>
>>On 2/22/2011 9:54 AM, Meteorite Debris wrote:
>>> Looking at Twits about the Christchurch earthquake and so many want to
>>> "pray for Chrictchurch." The rescue workers have saved more people than
>>> any god.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Do you really not understand that the prayers have been for the rescue
>>workers to be able to find and save those trapped by the earthquake?
>>
>>Somebody once said that atheists will slowly go insane. I'm starting to
>>believe that's true.
>
>Whereas the faithfull are already insane.
The psychopathic theists like Kendall who come here and wipe their
nastiness in our faces certainly are.
Pat Kiewicz
>
>
>Looking at Twits about the Christchurch earthquake and so many want to
>"pray for Chrictchurch." The rescue workers have saved more people than
>any god.
“The hands that help are better far than the lips that pray”
Robert Green Ingersoll
I just hope my cousin is safe and sound.
--
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"Vegetables are like bombs packed tight with all kinds of important
nutrients..." --Largo Potter, Valkyria Chronicles
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Les Hellawell
Yer, we used to have to recite that stupid thing every
morning in school assembly and I hated it.
I used to think, if this is The 'Lord's' prayer why
doesn't he recite the damn thing himself?
It never once occurred to me we were supposed
to be actually praying to some god, it was just
a crap poem we had to chant like a bunch of
morons reciting the communist manifesto, the
Koran or something.
Les Hellawell
Greetings from:
Yorkshire -The White Rose County
Les Hellawell
What really annoys me is when the rescued 'thank gawd' for being
rescued and not the men who toiled for hours and risked their lives
for them. You see the rescuers, clearly exhausted, covered in filth,
clothing torn happy they have saved somebody and all they get for
their heoism is 'thank gawd' to the cameras. I find that really
sickening.
Loirbaj
What are some of your fav prayers. I remember some from early on,
Our Father Who art in Heaven
Hallowed be Thy Name
Thy Kingdom come
Thy will be done
On earth as it is in Heaven
one loser bleated
> Yer, we used to have to recite that stupid thing every
> morning in school assembly and I hated it.
Leslie said
> I used to think, if this is The 'Lord's' prayer why
> doesn't he recite the damn thing himself?
Enjoy your time sashaying the Dales, dear leslie.
When in Hell with the rest of your deviant buddies
you shall have countless quadrillions of years to
cackle in impotent rage at Jesus...who "just didn't
understand your swishy humor". More's the pity...
Les Hellawell
just because you say so?
Any real Jesus would be laughing with me and
not you.
but we all know, don't we, it is just your wishful
thinking fantasy which tells me more about your
mind than any reality that you pretend to know.
I hope for your sake there really is not a mind
reading Jesus. Fortunately there is no reason to
believe yur claim there is such a creature or
a hell.
James Kendall
Why don't you ask Him?
ADOLFSCHICKLGRUBER TRUECRISTIAN
> On 2/22/2011 4:13 PM, Scott Balneaves wrote:
>
> >> On 2/22/2011 9:54 AM, Meteorite Debris wrote:
> >>> Looking at Twits about the Christchurch earthquake and so many want to
> >>> "pray for Chrictchurch." The rescue workers have saved more people than
> >>> any god.
>
> >> Do you really not understand that the prayers have been for the rescue
> >> workers to be able to find and save those trapped by the earthquake?
>
> > Why didn't God just stop the earthquake?
>
> Why don't you ask Him?
bet ur parents are homos
and one of ur dads got raped by the other dad
James Kendall
I didn't think atheists believed in God.
But if you really want to know, why don't you ask Him?
James Kendall
I didn't think atheists believed in God.
James Kendall
James Kendall
Conan the bacterium
> On 2/22/2011 9:54 AM, Meteorite Debris wrote:
>
> > Looking at Twits about the Christchurch earthquake and so many want to
> > "pray for Chrictchurch." The rescue workers have saved more people than
> > any god.
>
<>
> Do you really not understand that the prayers have been for the rescue
> workers to be able to find and save those trapped by the earthquake?
Given that God, with perfect foreknowledge of
the consequences, freely allowed this killer
earthquake to take place, begging Him for
help now seems rather like pleading with
the criminal who burst into your home and
sprayed your family with gunfire to help
drive your surviving baby to the hospital.
conan
>
> Somebody once said that atheists will slowly go insane. I'm starting to
> believe that's true.
>
> --JK
Christopher A. Lee
<jrke...@rightnet.net> wrote:
For the same reason you don't ask Father Christmas.
What a fucking moron.
Christopher A. Lee
Look up FOR THE SAKE OF ARGUMENT, imbecile.
>But if you really want to know, why don't you ask Him?
Because we're asking YOU, not your pretend friend.
If you imagine we should ask it, you have to first demonstrate its
real world existence outside youre deluded imagination.
Are you really, honestly this stupid or just being an in-your face
asshole for the sake of it?
raven1
<jrke...@rightnet.net> wrote:
Are you evading the questions because you know you can't answer them,
or because you'd prefer not to consider the implications?
>But if you really want to know, why don't you ask Him?
I strongly suspect that the OP was interested in how theists would
answer the questions.
raven1
<jrke...@rightnet.net> wrote:
If you can't answer the question, you should just say so.
Apostate
Nag, nag, nag.
--
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"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure
and the intelligent are full of doubt." -- Bertrand Russell
"Mr. Worf, set phasers on "Fuck You" and fire at will."
-- Doc Smartass
"Nature has a dark sense of humor, but life is certainly
one of the things it laughs at."
-- Rinaldo of Capadoccia
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Christopher A. Lee
Probably both.
His evasions tell us plenty about him I'm sure he'd rather we didn't
know.
We already knew he was a jerk from his first post which was a stupid
response to a remark by an atheist to fellow atheists that was only
posted in alt.atheism.
Now we know he is an intellectually dishonest narcissist suffering
from the Dunning Kruger effect.
>>But if you really want to know, why don't you ask Him?
>
>I strongly suspect that the OP was interested in how theists would
>answer the questions.
Obviously.
Now we know - with their usual stupid dishonesty that fools no-one.
They have a psychological need to respond with anything, however
stupid.
But this idiot didn't have to say anything in the first place.
We didn't go looking for him - he came here looking for us.
James Kendall
> On Feb 22, 8:46 am, James Kendall<jrkend...@rightnet.net> wrote:
>> On 2/22/2011 9:54 AM, Meteorite Debris wrote:
>>
>>> Looking at Twits about the Christchurch earthquake and so many want to
>>> "pray for Chrictchurch." The rescue workers have saved more people than
>>> any god.
>>
>
> <>
>
>> Do you really not understand that the prayers have been for the rescue
>> workers to be able to find and save those trapped by the earthquake?
>
> Given that God, with perfect foreknowledge of
> the consequences, freely allowed this killer
> earthquake to take place, begging Him for
> help now seems rather like pleading with
> the criminal who burst into your home and
> sprayed your family with gunfire to help
> drive your surviving baby to the hospital.
>
>
> conan
>
So you believe God caused the earthquake for spite or vengeance?
James Kendall
> Last time that great scribe James Kendall<jrke...@rightnet.net>
> chipped away at his/her stone these gems of wisdom for posterity ...
>
>> On 2/22/2011 9:54 AM, Meteorite Debris wrote:
>>> Looking at Twits about the Christchurch earthquake and so many want to
>>> "pray for Chrictchurch." The rescue workers have saved more people than
>>> any god.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Do you really not understand that the prayers have been for the rescue
>> workers to be able to find and save those trapped by the earthquake?
>
> What is the isolated "god effect" when the rescue worker does nothing?
>
>
Have you actually seen a rescue worker doing nothing?
James Kendall
For you, prayer wouldn't mean anything.
Conan the bacterium
> On 2/23/2011 12:25 PM, Conan the bacterium wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Feb 22, 8:46 am, James Kendall<jrkend...@rightnet.net> wrote:
> >> On 2/22/2011 9:54 AM, Meteorite Debris wrote:
>
> >>> Looking at Twits about the Christchurch earthquake and so many want to
> >>> "pray for Chrictchurch." The rescue workers have saved more people than
> >>> any god.
>
> > <>
>
> >> Do you really not understand that the prayers have been for the rescue
> >> workers to be able to find and save those trapped by the earthquake?
>
<>
> > Given that God, with perfect foreknowledge of
> > the consequences, freely allowed this killer
> > earthquake to take place, begging Him for
> > help now seems rather like pleading with
> > the criminal who burst into your home and
> > sprayed your family with gunfire to help
> > drive your surviving baby to the hospital.
> > conan
> So you believe God caused the earthquake for spite or vengeance?
Or neglect or boredom or indifference or sadism
or incompetence or inattention or caprice or
misadventure or nonexistence.
What's your best guess?
conan
Christopher A. Lee
<jrke...@rightnet.net> wrote:
>On 2/23/2011 12:25 PM, Conan the bacterium wrote:
>> On Feb 22, 8:46 am, James Kendall<jrkend...@rightnet.net> wrote:
>>> On 2/22/2011 9:54 AM, Meteorite Debris wrote:
>>>
>>>> Looking at Twits about the Christchurch earthquake and so many want to
>>>> "pray for Chrictchurch." The rescue workers have saved more people than
>>>> any god.
>>>
>>
>> <>
>>
>>> Do you really not understand that the prayers have been for the rescue
>>> workers to be able to find and save those trapped by the earthquake?
>>
>> Given that God, with perfect foreknowledge of
>> the consequences, freely allowed this killer
>> earthquake to take place, begging Him for
>> help now seems rather like pleading with
>> the criminal who burst into your home and
>> sprayed your family with gunfire to help
>> drive your surviving baby to the hospital.
>>
>>
>> conan
>>
>
>So you believe God caused the earthquake for spite or vengeance?
A liar as well as an idiot.
archie dux
> On 2/22/2011 2:04 PM, Les Hellawell wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 10:46:39 -0500, James Kendall
> > <jrkend...@rightnet.net> wrote:
>
> >> On 2/22/2011 9:54 AM, Meteorite Debris wrote:
> >>> Looking at Twits about the Christchurch earthquake and so many want to
> >>> "pray for Chrictchurch." The rescue workers have saved more people than
> >>> any god.
>
> >> Do you really not understand that the prayers have been for the rescue
> >> workers to be able to find and save those trapped by the earthquake?
>
> > Specialist volunteer teams from mountain rescue organisations in the
> > UK are winging their way to NZ as I type. Just a small part of a
> > stand-bye world wide expertise that is now converging there as quick
> > as they can. As well as experts there are also stock piles of
> > essential requirement at strategic places that will also be flown
> > in.
>
> That's more evidence that the prayers are being answered.
> But I couldn't expect you to believe that. So don't even try.
>
>
>
> >> Somebody once said that atheists will slowly go insane. I'm starting to
> >> believe that's true.
>
>
<>
> There is very good evidence that atheists have a propensity for going
> insane.
There is? I had not heard that.
Cool!
Um, we *are* talking scientific studies here,
right? Longitudinal ones, I should hope; those
are the most reliable in detecting long-term
and deep-seated trends and tendencies.
So, got a few references to these studies?
This could be very interesting!
archie
> I believe Friedrich Nietzsche is just one of many prime
> examples of how atheists slowly go insane.
Christopher A. Lee
More dishonest dodge ball.
He's a Christian, we know them by their fruits.
>
Christopher A. Lee
It makes people who aren't in a position to do anything useful, feel
good.
That's all.
Including assholes like you.
walksalone
news:ik3ev4$mpt$2...@news.eternal-september.org:
You have already established that not thinking about the atheist may or may
not believe is a routine that you excel at. Atheists as a group not believe
in gods as a group. Unlike you, we include your god and goddess we do not
believe in. And you, you imply your gods are believable and the rest
humanities or not.
And yes, it is gods as in the following very short list. Gods you
specifically do not believe in according to your posting history on the
atheist newsgroup.
Kaikara
Age
Diang
Nyakaya
Nyavirezi
Tule
Chikara
Chiuke
Deng
Mawu
Mugasa
Ndjambi
Orisania
Sodza
Soko
Sore-Gus
Topoh
Yayu
Jok
Ngunuwo
Nommo
Vodu
Akongo
Alatangana
Amma
Aondo
Apap
Arebati
Ataa Naa Nyongmo
Bumba
Cagu
Cghene
Fidi Mukullu
Hao
Kalisia
Imana
Kalunga
Ka Tyeleo
Kwoth
Kyumbe
Lesa
Libanza
Lisa
Mbomba
Mbongo
Mbotumbo
Mkulumncandi
Mungu
Ngai
Niamye
Nyame
Nzambi
Oduduwa
Osanobua
Pemba
Raluvimbha
Rubanga
Sa
Suku
Toro
Tororut
Tsunigoab
Umvelinkwangi
Unumbote
Waka
Wed Kumbamb
Yaro
Yemekonji
Gaunab
Itonde
Na Ngutu
Ogiuwu
Legba
Orunmila
Edeke
Enundu
Gibini
Ndaula
Oi
Shankpana
Tar
Abonsam
Ma Kiela
Ala
Asase Yaa
Atete
Muso Koroni
Obatala
Seta
Soului
Wamala
Avrikiti
Behanzin
Huvi
Rang
Ikenga
Ketua
Adro
Ayaba
Eji Ogbe
Fe
Mombo Wa Ndhlopfu
Mulindwa
Nesu
Nosenga
Osande
Ryangombe
Lianja
Jokinam
Mugizi
Lubanga
Eshu
Mlentengamunye
Musisi
Sogblen
Arawa
Gleti
Mawu
Nsongo
Nze
Jakomba
Dzivaguru
Mbombe
Akonadi
Esu
Lomo
Kangalogba
Banga
Col
Hara Ke
Ilat
Mujaji
Yemoja
Lubangala
Sajara
Buk
Faro
Isa
Kianda
Mmlambo
Nai
Nzapa
Olokun
Opo
Osun
Wu
Dongo
Inkanyamba
Shango
Sogbo
Asis
Iruva
Kazyoba
Loba
Wai
Mukasa
Sango
Xewioso
Loko
Ajalamo
Modimo
Kibuka
Muhingo
Ogun
Sakumo
Wiu
Aje
Ashiakle
Bagba
Munume
So
Buadza
Teliko
Ifa
Ori
Perende
Prende
Verbti
Kitanitowit
Manitu
Rubanga
Milkom
Molek
Aserah
Kubaba
Sipylene
Lau
Morva
Koyote
Abgaledit
Aglibol
Almaqh
Allat
Amm
Anbay
A'ra
Arsu
Asar
Asira
Atarsamain
Azizos
Baltis
Basamum
Datin
Haubas
Haukim
Hilal
Hubal
Kahilan
Malakbel
Malik
Manat
Mandah
Marnas
Orotalt
Qos
Quzah
Ruda
Salm of Mahram
Sams
Singala
Ta'lab
Theandros
Wadd
Sahar
Menechen
Aray
Astlik
Barsamin
Meher
Nana
Spandaramet
Tir
Tork
Vahagn
Asase Yaa
Anjea
Thuremlin
Mahrem
Acadla
Centeocihuatl
Chicomecohuatl
Chicomexochitl
Chiconahui Itzculntli-Chantico
Huehuecoyotl-Coyotlinahual
Ixnextli
Nappatecuhtli
Coyolxauhqui
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli
Tonaleque
Xiuhtecuhtli
Acolmiztli
Chalmecacihuitl
Acolnahuacatl
Chalmecatl
Ixpuztec
Micapet1acoli
Mictecacihuatl
Mictlantecuhtli
Nextepehua
Tepeyollotl
Tlalchitonatiuh
Tlaltecuhtli
Tlazolteotl (Ixcuiname)
Tzontemoc
Yacahuiztli
Atl
Ce Acatl
Chiconahuiehecatl
Cihuacoatl-Quilaztli
Cipactonal
Citlalatonac
Citlalicue
Ehecatl
Ipalnemoani
Nahui Ollin
Nanahuatl
Ocelotl
Quiahuitl
Tloque Nahauque
Tonatiuh
Yoalli Ehecatl
Yoaltecuhtli
Itztapal Totec
Izquitecatl
Matlalcueye
Mayahuel
Ome Tochtli
Pahtecatl
Tepoztecatl
Tezcatzoncatl
TIaloque- Tepictoton
Tomiyauhtecuhtli
Totoltecatl
Tezcatzoncatl
Tlaloque-Tepictoton
Tomiyauhtecuhtli
Totoltecatl
Xilonen
Xipe Totec
Xochiquetzal
Xochiquetzal-Ichpuchtli
yauhqueme
Huehuetotl
Inta
Ixcozauhqui
Teteo Innan
Opochtli
Chantico
Chiconahui
Itzcuintli
Nagual
Itztli
Ixquimilli-Itzlacoliuhqui
Huehuecoyotl
Ixtlilton
Teteoinnan
Teteoinnan-Toci
Tezcacoac Ayopechtli
Tozi
Zapotlantenan
Co(co)chimetl
Yacacoliuhqui
Yacapitzahuac
Xolotl
Xolotl Nanahuatl
Metztli
Tecciztecatl
Coatlicue
Itzpapalotl
Itzpapalotl-ltzcueye
Kundalini
Moyocoyanl
Telpochtli
Titlacahuan
Yaotl
Chalchiuhtotolin
Cipactli
Ehecatl-Quetzalcoatl
Ometeotl
Tonacacihuatl
Tonacatccuhtli
Omacatl
Huitzilpochtli
Tezcatlipoca
Ometecuhtli
Tezcatlipoca-Itzlacoliuhqui
Mexitli
Mixcoatl-Camaxtli
Painal
Teicauhtzin
Tetzahauteotl
Tetzahuitl
Teuhcatl
Tlacahuepan
Amimitl
Atlahua
Chalchiuhtlatonal
Chalchiuhtlicue
Nahui Ehecatl
Tlaloc
Dagan
Dumuzi
Kus
Sakka(n)
Sirtur
Kulla
Ninegal
Nin-Ildu
Ninkarnunna
Siduri
A-a
Igigi
Mes An Du
Samas
Sin
Ennugi
Hani(s)
Ilabrat
Kakka
Sullat
Belet-Seri
Birdu
Enmesarra
Ereskigal
Galla
Lugal-Irra
Manungal
Nammu
Nergal
Neti
Ninkigal
Sulman(u}
Bel
Beltiya
Ninsun(a)
Antu
Anu
Marduk
Ama-arhus
Amasagnul
Asnan
Baba
Gatumdug
Istar
Nanaja
Ningal
Ningikuga
Nin-Imma
Nin'insinna
Sarra Itu
Ua Ildak
Gerra
Isum
Alad Udug Lama
Anunnaki
Assur
Ningirsu
Pa-bil-sag
Sirsir
Now, which one of these gods is your god? And if none, why not. Yes, I
realize this is extremely short list, but the atheist newsgroup is clogged
up enough with people pretending to speak for their gods that I did not
have to introduce it for them too enamored themselves up.
> But if you really want to know, why don't you ask Him?
You may be couple speaking to nonentities, myself I like to have someone
else on the other end of the conversation. Of course, if you are the
revealed gods of the desert, you're not used to having others on the other
in the conversation when matters theological nonimportant and immaterial
are involved. And that's quite all right for you. However, the question you
have avoided becoming more about your desirability as a conversational
companion than you intended. You are bankrupt, ethically and morally. You
anticipate the nonexistent providing help for people that supposedly it
hurt by causing or permitting the earthquake struck with. Unfortunately for
you, not everyone shares your fantasy, nor is everyone interested in it.
But I will thank you for one thing, you are at this stage, attention to
keep your trolling in the alt.atheism newsgroup. So there is a fair chance
you not in the sticky to stroke your ego and look important to others of
like mind.
[1]
walksalone who finds it fascinating that so many of the so-called believers
in the revealed gods of the desert can pretend to know the minds of others,
and they don't even know their own gods. But such is to be expected, for
the xian of today is simply another salad bar muncher, seeking out the
parts that please their taste bud and aborting any of the so-called
passages that reveal that they are supposed to be responsible for
themselves as well as to their gods. But they like the song goes,
go ahead and hate your neighbor
go ahead and cheat a friend
do it in the name of heaven,
and all is forgiven in the end
IIRC the song is one One Tin Soldier, though it might not be so named. But
it is the theme song from the movie Billy Jack.
But then, I'm not greedy enough, or stupid enough, to want eternal life.
Though according to the Greek testaments, there is no practical difference
between this life and the next life except for the duration.
Fine clothes may disguise, but
silly words will disclose a fool.
James Kendall
I really don't know. I wouldn't want to second-guess God.
So, you're not an atheist, but just someone angry at God?
Les Hellawell
<jrke...@rightnet.net> wrote:
Yes they would. It would mean somebody was wasting his/her time
doing something stupid.
James Kendall
Uhh...what?
Uhh...the one born in Bethlehem, about two thousand years ago.
And if none, why not. Yes, I
> realize this is extremely short list, but the atheist newsgroup is clogged
> up enough with people pretending to speak for their gods that I did not
> have to introduce it for them too enamored themselves up.
>
>
>> But if you really want to know, why don't you ask Him?
>
>
> You may be couple speaking to nonentities, myself I like to have someone
> else on the other end of the conversation. Of course, if you are the
> revealed gods of the desert, you're not used to having others on the other
> in the conversation when matters theological nonimportant and immaterial
> are involved. And that's quite all right for you. However, the question you
> have avoided becoming more about your desirability as a conversational
> companion than you intended. You are bankrupt, ethically and morally. You
> anticipate the nonexistent providing help for people that supposedly it
> hurt by causing or permitting the earthquake struck with. Unfortunately for
> you, not everyone shares your fantasy, nor is everyone interested in it.
> But I will thank you for one thing, you are at this stage, attention to
> keep your trolling in the alt.atheism newsgroup. So there is a fair chance
> you not in the sticky to stroke your ego and look important to others of
> like mind.
>
Uhh...what?
> [1]
>
> walksalone who finds it fascinating that so many of the so-called believers
> in the revealed gods of the desert can pretend to know the minds of others,
> and they don't even know their own gods. But such is to be expected, for
> the xian of today is simply another salad bar muncher, seeking out the
> parts that please their taste bud and aborting any of the so-called
> passages that reveal that they are supposed to be responsible for
> themselves as well as to their gods. But they like the song goes,
> go ahead and hate your neighbor
> go ahead and cheat a friend
> do it in the name of heaven,
> and all is forgiven in the end
> IIRC the song is one One Tin Soldier, though it might not be so named. But
> it is the theme song from the movie Billy Jack.
>
> But then, I'm not greedy enough, or stupid enough, to want eternal life.
> Though according to the Greek testaments, there is no practical difference
> between this life and the next life except for the duration.
>
>
> Fine clothes may disguise, but
> silly words will disclose a fool.
Okay, now you're talking.
archie dux
<>
Hmmm....you know, seems to me that all these people
tugging at God's skirt by praying at him over this
are doing exacly what you just said: second-guessing
God.
I mean, one would assume that He already knows of
the situation, and knows what He intends to
do, don't you think? Given that, then all that incessent
yammering at Him by people telling Him what *they*
want him to do must be...well, annoying. Ask
any parent.
> So, you're not an atheist, but just someone angry at God?
I'm someone who likes questioning people
about their beliefs.
Particularly believers who, strange to say,
drop by a group called `alt.atheism' to
expound on them.
conana
James Kendall
So then, you disagree with Kelsey?
Christopher A. Lee
Where did you demonstrate this hypothetical god outside your deluded
imagination before rudely and stupidly presuming it,sociopathic
imbecile?
>So, you're not an atheist, but just someone angry at God?
Add liar to sociopathic and imbecile.
Christopher A. Lee
Learn to read for comprehension, imbecile.
Christopher A. Lee
<jrke...@rightnet.net> wrote:
More of Kendall's lies and idiocy.
raven1
<jrke...@rightnet.net> wrote:
Your ability to miss the point is impressive.
Christopher A. Lee
They have to pretend to miss the point because they can't admit it.
walksalone
> On 2/23/2011 2:27 PM, walksalone wrote:
>> James Kendall<jrke...@rightnet.net> wrote in
>> news:ik3ev4$mpt$2...@news.eternal-september.org:
>>
>>> On 2/22/2011 8:12 PM, Brian E. Clark wrote:
>>>> In article<ik0lp2$tc8$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
>>>> jrke...@rightnet.net says...
>>>>
>>>>> On 2/22/2011 9:54 AM, Meteorite Debris wrote:
>>>>>> Looking at Twits about the Christchurch earthquake and so many
>>>>>> want to "pray for Chrictchurch." The rescue workers have saved
>>>>>> more people than any god.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you really not understand that the prayers have been for the
>>>>> rescue workers to be able to find and save those trapped by the
>>>>> earthquake?
>>>>
>>>> A few points and questions:
>>>>
>>>> 1) The article did not in fact indicate that faithful were
>>>> asking God to help the workers find the victims.
Snip
>> You may be couple speaking to nonentities, myself I like to have
>> someone else on the other end of the conversation. Of course, if you
>> are the revealed gods of the desert, you're not used to having others
>> on the other in the conversation when matters theological
>> nonimportant and immaterial are involved. And that's quite all right
>> for you. However, the question you have avoided becoming more about
>> your desirability as a conversational companion than you intended.
>> You are bankrupt, ethically and morally. You anticipate the
>> nonexistent providing help for people that supposedly it hurt by
>> causing or permitting the earthquake struck with. Unfortunately for
>> you, not everyone shares your fantasy, nor is everyone interested in
>> it. But I will thank you for one thing, you are at this stage,
>> attention to keep your trolling in the alt.atheism newsgroup. So
>> there is a fair chance you not in the sticky to stroke your ego and
>> look important to others of like mind.
>>
>
> Uhh...what?
So you are actually awake than? The above was done with a AVR system, and
whether or not it will proofread depends on what the other person brings
to table. In your case, you give every appearance of being a tap dancer,
pretending to be in charge of something no one else can recognize. This
is quite all right because, in the 80s newsgroup we are used to salad bar
xians, and you have all the earmarks of them. In fact, a quick summary of
your conduct may be found in the following article,
Step one: Post off topic. Show total disregard for the purpose of the
comments section. Better still, post the exact same thing in the
comments section of several totally unrelated articles.
Step two: Make sure you give a gloss of politeness to your post.
Step three: Be sure not to actually read anything on the site, just
launch your attack. Do not seek answers, and do not question your own
position. You already know you're right; either of the above would
merely be matching wits with the Devil!
Step four: When you get a response, make sure you point out how puzzled
you are that they are not yet totally convinced. Be sure to ask "why so
much anger". Point out the character flaws which are surely the cause of
their incredulity. Do not engage any of the points raised, do not under
any circumstances enter into real dialogue; then repeat your original
post as if nothing else has yet been added to the discussion.
Step five: If asked a direct question, ignore it. Accuse everyone else
of not answering your questions.
Step six: If they are still not convinced, repeat steps four and five.
Step seven: If anyone calls you up on any of our incoherence, poor
reasoning, dishonesty or blatant lies; ignore step two. Be sure to whip
yourself up into a self-righteous frenzy, bemoan the fact that all you
want is an honest discussion, to share opinions. Tell them how much God
loves them. Tell them they'll spend an eternity in Hell.
Step eight: Leave, never to be heard from again, shaking the
metaphorical dust from your metaphorical sandals as you go. (If only
we'd be so fortunate)
Ken <flak...@aol.com>
Possibly, your variation number 1973 has never been seen before. The
prototype is well-known.
>> [1]
>>
>> walksalone who finds it fascinating that so many of the so-called
>> believers in the revealed gods of the desert can pretend to know the
>> minds of others, and they don't even know their own gods. But such is
>> to be expected, for the xian of today is simply another salad bar
>> muncher, seeking out the parts that please their taste bud and
>> aborting any of the so-called passages that reveal that they are
>> supposed to be responsible for themselves as well as to their gods.
>> But they like the song goes, go ahead and hate your neighbor
>> go ahead and cheat a friend
>> do it in the name of heaven,
>> and all is forgiven in the end
>> IIRC the song is one One Tin Soldier, though it might not be so
>> named. But it is the theme song from the movie Billy Jack.
>>
>> But then, I'm not greedy enough, or stupid enough, to want eternal
>> life. Though according to the Greek testaments, there is no practical
>> difference between this life and the next life except for the
>> duration.
>>
>>
>> Fine clothes may disguise, but
>> silly words will disclose a fool.
>
> Okay, now you're talking.
Actually, the last two lines are not mine. It's a common bit of folklore
and it's applicable. Do have a nice day, preferably elsewhere because
there are people who are still using dial-up access to the Internet and
they're paying for your foolishness. What foolishness, failing to answer
questions that have been asked of you, failure to defend your
position/claim/pretensions, attending to hand wave away the entries you
do not have such as why would a god failed to prevent the suffering that
was caused by a natural event. And pretending not to be going to second-
guess a mind of your god is a lie. You already have done that and you
will continue to do that as time goes on. How can I say that with such
calm certainty, you begin to know that prayer, actually works when in
fact you cannot establish that. Though I will bet you this much, nothing
works like prayer, exactly like prayer.
[2]
walksalone who doubts the other person will actually attempt to make a
meaningful conversation possible. A summit for fun for some to pretend to
be ethically or morally or in some other manner superior to others when
in fact, the odds favor just the opposite. A generality that I have seen
one out by the evidence provided by xians for many a year. Other
exceptions, yes. Is the other person in this conversation a exception,
not the date. But of course, it's so much easier to pretend to know what
you're talking about rather than provide the evidence.
Religions are conclusions for which the
facts of nature supply no major premises.
Ambrose Bierce, Collected Works(1912)
tirebiter
> On 2/23/2011 12:25 PM, Conan the bacterium wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 22, 8:46 am, James Kendall<jrkend...@rightnet.net> wrote:
> >> On 2/22/2011 9:54 AM, Meteorite Debris wrote:
>
> >>> Looking at Twits about the Christchurch earthquake and so many want to
> >>> "pray for Chrictchurch." The rescue workers have saved more people than
> >>> any god.
>
> > <>
>
> >> Do you really not understand that the prayers have been for the rescue
> >> workers to be able to find and save those trapped by the earthquake?
>
> > Given that God, with perfect foreknowledge of
> > the consequences, freely allowed this killer
> > earthquake to take place, begging Him for
> > help now seems rather like pleading with
> > the criminal who burst into your home and
> > sprayed your family with gunfire to help
> > drive your surviving baby to the hospital.
>
> > conan
>
> So you believe God caused the earthquake for spite or vengeance?
>
As someone who doesn't believe in god, my answer is no.
As someone who believes in this god, you should consider the question
you're asking. I'm told this god is omniscient AND omnipotent. It
had to know the earthquake would happen and it had to have the ability
to prevent it.
The fact that the earthquake happened anyway suggests that if your god
exists, it is an evil monster, or the more likely case, it doesn't
exist.
> >> Somebody once said that atheists will slowly go insane. I'm starting to
> >> believe that's true.
>
> >> --JK
Seems to me that believing in an undetectable god is the fast track to
insanity.
---
a.a. #2273
tirebiter
> On 2/23/2011 1:38 AM, Meteorite Debris wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > chipped away at his/her stone these gems of wisdom for posterity ...
>
> >> On 2/22/2011 9:54 AM, Meteorite Debris wrote:
> >>> Looking at Twits about the Christchurch earthquake and so many want to
> >>> "pray for Chrictchurch." The rescue workers have saved more people than
> >>> any god.
>
> >> Do you really not understand that the prayers have been for the rescue
> >> workers to be able to find and save those trapped by the earthquake?
>
> > What is the isolated "god effect" when the rescue worker does nothing?
>
> Have you actually seen a rescue worker doing nothing?
Somehow you don't see that you're making his point for him?
---
a.a. #2273
tirebiter
There is zero evidence that prayer has meant anything, for anyone, at
any time.
---
a.a. #2273
tirebiter
> On 2/23/2011 2:27 PM, walksalone wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >news:ik3ev4$mpt$2...@news.eternal-september.org:
>
> >> On 2/22/2011 8:12 PM, Brian E. Clark wrote:
> >>> jrkend...@rightnet.net says...
Your god is as detectible and provable as any of the thousands of
other gods people have invented.
>
>
> > Now, which one of these gods is your god?
>
> Uhh...the one born in Bethlehem, about two thousand years ago.
>
And that one is as unbelievable as all the ones in the list, plus
thousands more.
Sez the troll in a.a. pretending that praying has ever once changed
the outcome of anything.
---
a.a. #2273
Don Martin
wrote:
>On 2/23/2011 1:38 AM, Meteorite Debris wrote:
Only the christian ones.
-
aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean)
The Squeeky Wheel: http://home.comcast.net/~drdonmartin/
Don Martin
wrote:
>> Given that God, with perfect foreknowledge of
>> the consequences, freely allowed this killer
>> earthquake to take place, begging Him for
>> help now seems rather like pleading with
>> the criminal who burst into your home and
>> sprayed your family with gunfire to help
>> drive your surviving baby to the hospital.
>>
>>
>> conan
>>
>
>So you believe God caused the earthquake for spite or vengeance?
Oh, may simply have been one of its masturbatory fantasies. Without any
evidence of its existence, who can be sure of its motives?
It _is_ credited with having the sort of power to produce earthquakes, so it is
a likely suspect.
Don Martin
wrote:
>On 2/22/2011 4:13 PM, Scott Balneaves wrote:
>> James Kendall<jrke...@rightnet.net> wrote:
>>> On 2/22/2011 9:54 AM, Meteorite Debris wrote:
>>>> Looking at Twits about the Christchurch earthquake and so many want to
>>>> "pray for Chrictchurch." The rescue workers have saved more people than
>>>> any god.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Do you really not understand that the prayers have been for the rescue
>>> workers to be able to find and save those trapped by the earthquake?
>>
>> Why didn't God just stop the earthquake?
>
>Why don't you ask Him?
Why don't you produce some credible evidence that this figment of your
imagination actually exists?
Michael Gray
That is why he still believes in a magic-daddy in the sky.
Only one of them, mind you.
And he has yet to specify which one, of course.
--
Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, is still there
Michael Gray
Exactly.
It involves a certain independent maturity of mind to cut one's losses
when one has invested a heap of resources into a scam.
Michael Gray
Their fruits are NOT from the tree of knowledge!
Michael Gray
<deinococcus...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Feb 22, 8:46 am, James Kendall <jrkend...@rightnet.net> wrote:
>> On 2/22/2011 9:54 AM, Meteorite Debris wrote:
>>
>> > Looking at Twits about the Christchurch earthquake and so many want to
>> > "pray for Chrictchurch." The rescue workers have saved more people than
>> > any god.
>>
>
><>
>
>> Do you really not understand that the prayers have been for the rescue
>> workers to be able to find and save those trapped by the earthquake?
>
>Given that God, with perfect foreknowledge of
>the consequences, freely allowed this killer
>earthquake to take place, begging Him for
>help now seems rather like pleading with
>the criminal who burst into your home and
>sprayed your family with gunfire to help
>drive your surviving baby to the hospital.
At least that criminal would exist.
Michael Gray
<drdon...@comcast.net> wrote:
>On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 12:06:28 -0500, James Kendall <jrke...@rightnet.net>
>wrote:
>
>>On 2/22/2011 4:13 PM, Scott Balneaves wrote:
>>> James Kendall<jrke...@rightnet.net> wrote:
>>>> On 2/22/2011 9:54 AM, Meteorite Debris wrote:
>>>>> Looking at Twits about the Christchurch earthquake and so many want to
>>>>> "pray for Chrictchurch." The rescue workers have saved more people than
>>>>> any god.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Do you really not understand that the prayers have been for the rescue
>>>> workers to be able to find and save those trapped by the earthquake?
>>>
>>> Why didn't God just stop the earthquake?
>>
>>Why don't you ask Him?
>
>Why don't you produce some credible evidence that this figment of your
>imagination actually exists?
Not a scrap.
Which is why this mental infant has to rely on bluster, lies,
distraction, more lies, fraud and more lies.
Michael Gray
<drdon...@comcast.net> wrote:
>On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 13:44:38 -0500, James Kendall <jrke...@rightnet.net>
>wrote:
>
>>On 2/23/2011 1:38 AM, Meteorite Debris wrote:
>>> Last time that great scribe James Kendall<jrke...@rightnet.net>
>>> chipped away at his/her stone these gems of wisdom for posterity ...
>>>
>>>> On 2/22/2011 9:54 AM, Meteorite Debris wrote:
>>>>> Looking at Twits about the Christchurch earthquake and so many want to
>>>>> "pray for Chrictchurch." The rescue workers have saved more people than
>>>>> any god.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Do you really not understand that the prayers have been for the rescue
>>>> workers to be able to find and save those trapped by the earthquake?
>>>
>>> What is the isolated "god effect" when the rescue worker does nothing?
>>
>>Have you actually seen a rescue worker doing nothing?
>
>Only the christian ones.
That is grossly unfair!
It misses the Scientologists, the Homeopathists, the Muslims, Hippies,
and other useless morons who just get in the way of real rescue
efforts.
Christopher A. Lee
<drdon...@comcast.net> wrote:
>On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 12:06:28 -0500, James Kendall <jrke...@rightnet.net>
>wrote:
>
>>On 2/22/2011 4:13 PM, Scott Balneaves wrote:
>>> James Kendall<jrke...@rightnet.net> wrote:
>>>> On 2/22/2011 9:54 AM, Meteorite Debris wrote:
>>>>> Looking at Twits about the Christchurch earthquake and so many want to
>>>>> "pray for Chrictchurch." The rescue workers have saved more people than
>>>>> any god.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Do you really not understand that the prayers have been for the rescue
>>>> workers to be able to find and save those trapped by the earthquake?
>>>
>>> Why didn't God just stop the earthquake?
>>
>>Why don't you ask Him?
>
>Why don't you produce some credible evidence that this figment of your
>imagination actually exists?
He "thinks" he's being clever.
Don Martin
You wanna enumerate all the useless morons apart from christians, we'll be here
all night!
Michael Gray
<drdon...@comcast.net> wrote:
>On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 12:06:42 +1030, Michael Gray <mike...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 19:11:38 -0500, Don Martin
>><drdon...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 13:44:38 -0500, James Kendall <jrke...@rightnet.net>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 2/23/2011 1:38 AM, Meteorite Debris wrote:
>>>>> Last time that great scribe James Kendall<jrke...@rightnet.net>
>>>>> chipped away at his/her stone these gems of wisdom for posterity ...
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2/22/2011 9:54 AM, Meteorite Debris wrote:
>>>>>>> Looking at Twits about the Christchurch earthquake and so many want to
>>>>>>> "pray for Chrictchurch." The rescue workers have saved more people than
>>>>>>> any god.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you really not understand that the prayers have been for the rescue
>>>>>> workers to be able to find and save those trapped by the earthquake?
>>>>>
>>>>> What is the isolated "god effect" when the rescue worker does nothing?
>>>>
>>>>Have you actually seen a rescue worker doing nothing?
>>>
>>>Only the christian ones.
>>
>>That is grossly unfair!
>>It misses the Scientologists, the Homeopathists, the Muslims, Hippies,
>>and other useless morons who just get in the way of real rescue
>>efforts.
>
>You wanna enumerate all the useless morons apart from christians, we'll be here
>all night!
I was restricting myself to those theists who actively and physically
retard rescue attempts.
I do understand your sage-advice to not begin the infinite task of
counting the calasses of those rendered criminally clueless fopdoodles
by liberal application of mind-poisons.
Loirbaj
A couple days ago, a deviant at ATCreationism claimed
that God killed millions of children with SIDS in the US.
I pointed out this was a fantastic lie, that in fact the
number is in the range of 2,500 such deaths. Yesterday
a deviant atheist actually crowed about 70 deaths at
Christchurch NZ, again cackling that, the way his
deviant mind worked, this was again "God killing", though
now he feared to lie again and claim "millions dead". The
deaths of any whether 2,500 or as at Christchurch 70 folks
is very sad. But what a wonderful MERCY and GRACE
from Christ, that in such a strong earthquake there were
SO FEW mortalities. A powerful testimony of the good
Creator.
Loirbaj
> Why is such an allegedly powerful creator unable to prevent all
> mortalities, or even prevent the earthquake itself?
Christ may have prevented thousands of deaths and
fake nym "Virgil" says He should do more. Remember
yesterday Mr.Budikka said God cannot exist otherwise
he would build new hearts for aging folks. With "geometric
proofs" for atheism such as those, I need not even reply.
Bill M
to avoid helping the smothered and the injured. If their God wants to punish
these people they should leave his actions alone!
"Michael Gray" <mike...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:th3cm61btpj7jo9i1...@4ax.com...
Loirbaj
Christian churches. No...not even ONE atheist
or other pervert helps out.