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Trump is Trying to Reduce the US Deficit

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vtand...@gmail.com

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Mitchell Holman

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vtand...@gmail.com wrote in
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> https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/foreign-policy/item/28282-trump-s
> -un-budget-cuts-funding-some-agencies-would-get-zero


Trump wants billions for his Space Marines,
billions for his Wall, billions for his mission
to Mars, billions for infrastructure, billions
for farmers hurt by his trade war, all after "the
biggest tax cut in history!", as he claimed.

Tell us more how that reduces the deficit.






Atheist ------------------------------

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There never would have been a never-ending "middle east problem" if we had
not created (through U.S. dominated U.N. of post-war 1948) a Jewish religion state.


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Christopher A. Lee

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Sep 16, 2018, 9:50:05 AM9/16/18
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Just like Bush2's tax reductions while printing and borrowing money to
pay for wars in Afghanistan and Iran.

Trump regularly bankrupted business when they couldn't borrow any
more money. At one time, he thought he could do that to the country -
I don't know if he still does.

Mitchell Holman

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Christopher A. Lee <c....@fairpoint.net> wrote in
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"I am the king of debt. I love debt"
Trump, 6/22/16

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/trump-king-of-debt-224642

vtand...@gmail.com

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On Sunday, September 16, 2018 at 6:50:05 AM UTC-7, Christopher A. Lee wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Sep 2018 08:23:39 -0500, Mitchell Holman
> <noe...@verizont.net> wrote:
>
> >vtand...@gmail.com wrote in
> >news:fedceda7-a380-4814...@googlegroups.com:
> >
> >> https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/foreign-policy/item/28282-trump-s
> >> -un-budget-cuts-funding-some-agencies-would-get-zero
> >
> > Trump wants billions for his Space Marines,

EVIDENCE?


> >billions for his Wall,

EVIDENCE?


billions for his mission
> >to Mars,

EVIDENCE?


billions for infrastructure, billions
> >for farmers hurt by his trade war, all after "the
> >biggest tax cut in history!", as he claimed.
> >
> > Tell us more how that reduces the deficit.
>
> Just like Bush2's tax reductions while printing and borrowing money to
> pay for wars in Afghanistan and Iran.

Show us where Bush did that.

>
> Trump regularly bankrupted business when they couldn't borrow any
> more money.

He had 3 bankruptcies. Apparently, you are too ignorant to know that the bankruptcy laws are enacted by Congress to help employers
stay in business and provide jobs. Declaring bankruptcy legally is not the same as failing and going under.

vtand...@gmail.com

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Sep 16, 2018, 10:43:14 AM9/16/18
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ROTFL! Most all businesses borrow money at times.

vtand...@gmail.com

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On Sunday, September 16, 2018 at 6:41:02 AM UTC-7, Atheist ------------------------------ wrote:
> default wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 16 Sep 2018 04:47:20 -0700 (PDT), vtand...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> >
> >>https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/foreign-policy/item/28282-trump-s-un-budget-cuts-funding-some-agencies-would-get-zero
> >
> >
> > Stop funding Israel!
>
> There never would have been a never-ending "middle east problem" if we had
> not created (through U.S. dominated U.N. of post-war 1948) a Jewish religion state.

The UN did not create Israel. Jews had been living on that land for thousands of years. Ever hear of ancient Israel?
>
>

Mitchell Holman

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vtand...@gmail.com wrote in
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Most all businessmen don't run to bankruptcy
court time after time to dodge their debts while
bragging about what shrewd investors they are.





Trump Airlines - failed.

Trump Vodka - failed.

Trump University - failed.

Trump Casinos - failed.

Trump Steaks - failed.

Trump Mortgage - failed

Trump The Game - failed.

Trump Magazine - failed

Trump Ice - failed

Trump Football Team - failed

Trump Oceans resorts - failed.

Trump Network - failed.

Trump News Media - failed.


vtand...@gmail.com

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Sep 16, 2018, 10:58:45 AM9/16/18
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I didn't say he doesn't spend money.
To keep the Federal government going, you have to spend money and
you can only cut spending where circumstances make that possible.

What are you talking about?

Obviously, you don't understand Economics at all. A tax cut can reduce the deficit and the debt if it is done properly. It puts more cash into the economy which can increase demand for goods and services.

vtand...@gmail.com

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Mitchell Holman

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vtand...@gmail.com wrote in
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> On Sunday, September 16, 2018 at 6:50:05 AM UTC-7, Christopher A. Lee
> wrote:
>
>
>>
>> Trump regularly bankrupted business when they couldn't borrow any
>> more money.
>
> He had 3 bankruptcies.


Wrong.


Fact Check: Has Trump declared bankruptcy
four or six times?
Sept 28 2016


"You致e taken business bankruptcies six times."
蓬illary Clinton

THE FACT CHECKER | Clinton is correct.

Trump痴 companies have filed for Chapter 11
bankruptcy protection, which means a company
can remain in business while wiping away many
of its debts. The bankruptcy court ultimately
approves a corporate budget and a plan to
repay remaining debts; often shareholders
lose much of their equity.

Trump痴 Taj Mahal opened in April 1990 in
Atlantic City, but six months later,
"defaulted on interest payments to bondholders
as his finances went into a tailspin," The
Washington Post痴 Robert O辿arrow found. In
July 1991, Trump痴 Taj Mahal filed for
bankruptcy. He could not keep up with debts
on two other Atlantic City casinos, and those
two properties declared bankruptcy in 1992. A
fourth property, the Plaza Hotel in New York,
declared bankruptcy in 1992 after amassing
debt.

PolitiFact uncovered two more bankruptcies
filed after 1992, totaling six. Trump Hotels
and Casinos Resorts filed for bankruptcy
again in 2004, after accruing about $1.8
billion in debt. Trump Entertainment Resorts
also declared bankruptcy in 2009, after being
hit hard during the 2008 recession.

http://tinyurl.com/y92qbdmo


vtand...@gmail.com

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CORRECTION: He declared bankruptcies on 4 of his properties..
None of them were personal bankruptcies

https://www.forbes.com/sites/clareoconnor/2011/04/29/fourth-times-a-charm-how-donald-trump-made-bankruptcy-work-for-him/#198a58797ffa

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Atheist ------------------------------

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Don't whine. Organize! Vote! Get off your lazy fat ass.


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Not the European Jews. They are people of white race. Their ancestors
had never been to the Middle-East. Adopting Judaism doesn't change one's
ancestry to the Middle-East. For a Russian Jew like yourself, the
climate in the Middle-East may not be good to your health.

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Romans kicked out most Jews in 73AD, starting the so-called Jewish diaspora, and
Jews decided around 1860, after eighteen _centuries_ of absense to move
back to Palestine and re-take land they claimed their god gave them forever.
After 18 *centuries* of absence. Dispicable. War was easily predictable.

The U.N. created the Jewish religion country of Israel in 1948.

You, a Jew, should know your history.

Street

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Atheist ------------------------------ <a...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> vtand...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> On Sunday, September 16, 2018 at 6:41:02 AM UTC-7, Atheist
>> ------------------------------ wrote:
>>>> default wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 16 Sep 2018 04:47:20 -0700 (PDT), vtand...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/foreign-policy/item/28282-trump-s-un-budget-cuts-funding-some-agencies-would-get-zero
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Stop funding Israel!
>>>
>>> There never would have been a never-ending "middle east problem" if we had
>>> not created (through U.S. dominated U.N. of post-war 1948) a Jewish religion state.
>>>> The UN did not create Israel. Jews had been living on that land for thousands of years.
>
> Romans kicked out most Jews in 73AD, starting the so-called Jewish diaspora, and
> Jews decided around 1860, after eighteen _centuries_ of absense to move
> back to Palestine and re-take land they claimed their god gave them forever.
> After 18 *centuries* of absence. Dispicable.


Seriously? Listen, take my advice*, illiterates like you really should use
a spell checker.

*Illiterates like you tend to spell it "advise".

Atheist ------------------------------

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That your best, dickhead, to complain of spelling and ignore the history.

Idiot.

%

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is saying dickhead all you got

Don Martin

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On Sun, 16 Sep 2018 09:57:37 -0500, Mitchell Holman
At least he's consistent.

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It's his favorite word. (No doubt something he continually fantasizes
over.)

Street

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Atheist ------------------------------ <a...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Street wrote:
>
>> Atheist ------------------------------ <a...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> vtand...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Sunday, September 16, 2018 at 6:41:02 AM UTC-7, Atheist
>>>> ------------------------------ wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> default wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 16 Sep 2018 04:47:20 -0700 (PDT), vtand...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/foreign-policy/item/28282-trump-s-un-budget-cuts-funding-some-agencies-would-get-zero
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stop funding Israel!
>>>>>
>>>>> There never would have been a never-ending "middle east problem" if we had
>>>>> not created (through U.S. dominated U.N. of post-war 1948) a Jewish religion state.
>>>>>
>>>>>> The UN did not create Israel. Jews had been living on that land for
>>>>>> thousands of years.
>>>
>>> Romans kicked out most Jews in 73AD, starting the so-called Jewish diaspora, and
>>> Jews decided around 1860, after eighteen _centuries_ of absense to move
>>> back to Palestine and re-take land they claimed their god gave them forever.
>>> After 18 *centuries* of absence. Dispicable. > > > > Seriously?
>>> Listen, take my advice*, illiterates like you really should use
>> a spell checker. > > *Illiterates like you tend to spell it "advise".
>
> That your best, dickhead, to complain of spelling and ignore the history.


Not really. I agree with most of your arguments. (Even though I confess it
is embarrassing to agree with such an illiterate buffoon.)

> Idiot.

Illiterate buffoon. :-)

Cloud Hobbit

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Mitchell Holman said:

>Trump wants billions for his Space Marines,
billions for his Wall, billions for his mission
to Mars, billions for infrastructure, billions
for farmers hurt by his trade war, all after "the
biggest tax cut in history!", as he claimed.

Tell us more how that reduces the deficit.

_________________

Perfect example of politicians not caring about the Constitution.

There is no reason for government to fund space exploration or farmers bad luck.

Until we can solve the problems of government trying to limit our freedom and stop the damage done by ignoring fiscal responsibility we have no business spending money on space exploration or farmers bad luck.

The main job given our government by the Constitution is protecting individual liberty. NOTHING else is anywhere near as important.

These are the things that should be fully funded first. Everything else is secondary.

Davej

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On Sunday, September 16, 2018 at 6:47:22 AM UTC-5, vtand...@gmail.com wrote:
> https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/foreign-policy/item/28282-trump-s-un-budget-cuts-funding-some-agencies-would-get-zero

Looks like grandstanding since Trump's budget request was similar
last year but Mitch McConnell and House Speaker Paul Ryan quickly
killed it.

Cloud Hobbit

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Mr. Duck said:

>The UN did not create Israel. Jews had been living on that land for thousands of years. Ever hear of ancient Israel
________________

Key word being "ancient."

The UN created the modern day country of Israel.

In N. America the native Americans could say the Great Spirit gave N. America to them and they wouldn't have any more claim than the Jews did.

Most countries have at one time been governed by someone else.
That doesn't validate their claims to a country.

Should we give back California to Mexico? There are many Mexicans feel they should be able to get it back as if that will make any difference to their lives.

vtand...@gmail.com

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On Sunday, September 16, 2018 at 1:19:58 PM UTC-7, Cloud Hobbit wrote:
> Mr. Duck said:
>
> >The UN did not create Israel. Jews had been living on that land for thousands of years. Ever hear of ancient Israel
> ________________
>
> Key word being "ancient."
>
> The UN created the modern day country of Israel.


WRONG. The UN General Assembly partitioned Palestine into Arab and Jewish sectors, but the Arabs refused to accept it and attacked Israel. Israel declared a state in May 1948. According to UN rules, the General Assembly cannot take any positive action without the approval of the Security Council, which was never obtained.Israel established a state by winning the 1948 war.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Partition_Plan_for_Palestine


>
> In N. America the native Americans could say the Great Spirit gave N. America to them and they wouldn't have any more claim than the Jews did.


Israel won the 1948 War of Independence, ignoramus.They defended their state. They won other wars against the Arabs in 1956, 1967 and 1973.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1947%E2%80%931949_Palestine_war
>
> Most countries have at one time been governed by someone else.
> That doesn't validate their claims to a country.
>
> Should we give back California to Mexico? There are many Mexicans feel they should be able to get it back as if that will make any difference to their lives.

LOL! After the Mexican War, Mexico ceded California to the United States in the Treaty of Guadalupe-Hidalgo.You really are ignorant.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Guadalupe_Hidalgo

vtand...@gmail.com

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Trump only did it 4 times.
>
>
>
>
>
> Trump Airlines - failed.
>
> Trump Vodka - failed.
>
> Trump University - failed.
>
> Trump Casinos - failed.
>
> Trump Steaks - failed.
>
> Trump Mortgage - failed
>
> Trump The Game - failed.
>
> Trump Magazine - failed
>
> Trump Ice - failed
>
> Trump Football Team - failed
>
> Trump Oceans resorts - failed.
>
> Trump Network - failed.
>
> Trump News Media - failed.

"It's often said that more than half of new businesses fail during the first year. According to the Small Business Association (SBA), this isn't necessarily true. The SBA states that only 30% of new businesses fail during the first two years of being open, 50% during the first five years and 66% during the first 10.
Top 6 Reasons New Businesses Fail | Investopedia
https://www.investopedia.com/slide-show/top-6-reasons-new-businesses-fail/

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Jews were living there for a very long time, but not Jews from the
Soviet Union and Europe, and they got along fine until some Jew
Zionists decided that a Jewish homeland was owed to them based on
their evil biblical fairy tales.

Jewish bullies taught the Palestinians how to fight.

Mitchell Holman

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vtand...@gmail.com wrote in
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Only?

When Trump dodged paying his debts in those
FOUR bankruptcies how many family companies had
to go out of business? How many kids had to drop
out of college when their parents could no longer
pay the fees?

And that doesn't include the people whose
lives he ruined even without declaring bankruptcy.





Donald Trump’s Business Plan Left a Trail of Unpaid Bills
June 9, 2016

Donald Trump often boasts on the presidential campaign
trail that hardball tactics helped make him a successful
businessman, an approach many voters say they admire.
Those tactics have also left behind bitter tales among
business owners who say he shortchanged them.

A review of court filings from jurisdictions in 33 states,
along with interviews with business people, real-estate
executives and others, shows a pattern over Mr. Trump’s
40-year career of his sometimes refusing to pay what
some business owners said Trump companies owed them.

A chandelier shop, a curtain maker, a lawyer and others
have said Mr. Trump’s companies agreed to buy goods and
services, then reneged when some or all were delivered.

Mr. Trump pushed the approach beyond construction and
into day-to-day casino operations, said Jack O’Donnell,
president of Mr. Trump’s Plaza casino in Atlantic City
in the late 1980s. "Part of how he did business as a
philosophy was to negotiate the best price he could.
And then when it came time to pay the bills," he said,
Mr. Trump would say that "I’m going to pay you but
I’m going to pay you 75% of what we agreed to."

http://tinyurl.com/h8j6rxm

Malte Runz

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And probably incontinent.

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On Tue, 18 Sep 2018 20:36:26 +0200, Malte Runz <nob...@busine.ss>
I've heard him speak: he manages incontinence at both ends of his
alimentary canal. I suppose he imagines it to be multitasking.

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What perturbs me his eyes look like two angry mouths. Though with respect to the
above perhaps another orifice I have not seen and wish to remain unseen.

Stormy Daniels, my condolences.

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On Sunday, September 16, 2018 at 7:47:22 PM UTC+8, vtand...@gmail.com wrote:
> https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/foreign-policy/item/28282-trump-s-un-budget-cuts-funding-some-agencies-would-get-zero

Trumpidiot knows nuts about anything....
He knows how to lie, how to grope and gets away with it!!!

vtand...@gmail.com

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LOL!How come you didn't answer those questions yourself?
Have you ever worked in business? I was an accountant for 25 years.
If a customer regularly gets behind in his payments, you stop giving him
credit until he does pay up. If he owes you lots of money, you sue him in court.


Even if he declares bankruptcy, he has to pay you part of what he owes.

You just love to make wild claims and exagerrate, don't you?
>
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Malte Runz

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On Tue, 18 Sep 2018 17:21:44 -0700, Siri Cruise <chine...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
I bet she just loved having 200+ lbs of orange blubber manhandling
her... attributes.

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Siri Cruise

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In article <fo54qd59h1lfgmfcv...@4ax.com>,
Does he use skin bronzer all over or just on the exposed skin?

Mitchell Holman

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vtand...@gmail.com wrote in
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You are the one defending Trump's
bankruptcies and screwing suppliers,
remember?


> Have you ever worked in business? I was an accountant for 25 years.
> If a customer regularly gets behind in his payments, you stop giving
> him credit until he does pay up. If he owes you lots of money, you sue
> him in court.
>

And Trump DID get sued in court
for not paying his bills. A lot.


Trump's 3,500 lawsuits unprecedented
for a presidential nominee
June 1, 2016
http://tinyurl.com/mbd8mf4


Even Trumps lawyers who were
DEFENDING him had to sue him when
they got stiffed.


Hundreds allege Donald Trump doesn’t pay his bills
April 25, 2018
http://tinyurl.com/lod9v2r























duke

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On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 01:48:19 -0700 (PDT), Yap Honghor <hhya...@gmail.com>
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Did you see him grope you?

the dukester, American-American


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Do we really want to know...

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On Sun, 16 Sep 2018 07:41:44 -0700 (PDT), vtand...@gmail.com wrote:

>On Sunday, September 16, 2018 at 6:50:05 AM UTC-7, Christopher A. Lee wrote:
>> On Sun, 16 Sep 2018 08:23:39 -0500, Mitchell Holman
>> <noe...@verizont.net> wrote:
>>
>> >vtand...@gmail.com wrote in
>> >news:fedceda7-a380-4814...@googlegroups.com:
>> >
>> >> https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/foreign-policy/item/28282-trump-s
>> >> -un-budget-cuts-funding-some-agencies-would-get-zero
>> >
>> > Trump wants billions for his Space Marines,
>
>EVIDENCE?

https://radio.foxnews.com/2018/09/18/the-cost-of-space-force/
"$12.9 billion: That's the estimate for the first five years of the
planned Space Force, according to some number crunching by the Air
Force."

Fox News!


>> >billions for his Wall,
>
>EVIDENCE?

https://tinyurl.com/ydhbshrq
"What did Trump get?
Trump got the $1.6 billion he sought for one year of funding but he
wanted a long-term wall financing commitment.
In January, the administration proposed $25 billion over 10 years for
the wall [...]"
>
>
> billions for his mission
>> >to Mars,
>
>EVIDENCE?

That one has to be pieced together, but I'm sure you can follow the
reasoning:

https://www.space.com/39671-trump-nasa-budget-2019-funds-moon-over-iss.html
"NASA's 2019 budget request formalizes the agency's handover of
human-spaceflight activities in low-Earth orbit to private industry,
in favor of a shift toward the moon.

The budget request, which was released today (Feb. 12), allocates
about $19.9 billion to NASA, [...]"

'MARS!!!!! NOT ALL OF NASA!!!!!. YOU CAN'T READ!!!!!!!'

Sit, Tandofsky, sit! Ask yourself why does Trump want to go to the
Moon.

https://tinyurl.com/y8kxgsr4
"President Donald Trump is officially directing NASA to send
astronauts back to the Moon, as a pit stop to eventually send people
to Mars."

See, now we're talking about billions being spent with a mission to
Mars in mind.

https://tinyurl.com/lraayj7

"Trump has grand plan for mission to Mars but Nasa advises: cool your
jets
The president is determined to see Americans walk on Mars during his
presidency, but the reality of space travel is a little more
complicated
[...]
On Monday, during a call with astronaut Peggy Whitson, who was aboard
the International Space Station, Trump pressed her for a timeline on a
crewed mission to Mars, [...] Whitson answered by pointing out that
Trump, by signing a Nasa funding bill last month, had already approved
a timeline for a mission in the 2030s. [...] “Unfortunately space
flight takes a lot of time and money,” she said. “But it is so
worthwhile doing.”

Trump replied: “Well, we want to try and do it during my first term
or, at worst, during my second term, so we’ll have to speed that up a
little bit, OK?” "

The guy is an idiot!

This took me about 30 minutes, I had fun doing it, and I ask myself
why the hell you didn't take the time to do it yourself, instead of
yelling "EVIDENCE?" three times. You leave a lot of room for
improvement, I must say, and you could start by acknowledging that, in
this case at least, Mitchell Holman was right.

Yes, I know...

'FUCK OFF TO YOUR OWN COUNTRY, STUPID ASSHOLE!!!!'

--
Malte Runz

Cloud Hobbit

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Sep 19, 2018, 4:51:26 PM9/19/18
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Just exactly how long do you think it will take to pay off the national debt?

If 75 million were paid every year towards the debt it would take around 14,000 years.

Nobody actually has the will to pay it off and it never seems to go down. The amount of debt is mind boggling and it is overwhelmingly large enough that nobody really tries.

Siri Cruise

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Sep 19, 2018, 6:20:11 PM9/19/18
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In article <jl75qd9479qh3ig19...@4ax.com>,
It's like how car crashes are on youtube.

Alex W.

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Sep 19, 2018, 8:29:55 PM9/19/18
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How much brain bleach will it take to remove the image you just planted
in my head????

Yap Honghor

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Sep 19, 2018, 10:03:49 PM9/19/18
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On Thursday, September 20, 2018 at 2:57:02 AM UTC+8, duke wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 01:48:19 -0700 (PDT), Yap Honghor <hhya...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On Sunday, September 16, 2018 at 7:47:22 PM UTC+8, vtand...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/foreign-policy/item/28282-trump-s-un-budget-cuts-funding-some-agencies-would-get-zero
> >
> >Trumpidiot knows nuts about anything....
> >He knows how to lie, how to grope and gets away with it!!!
>
> Did you see him grope you?

No...he love fat males like you?

vtand...@gmail.com

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Sep 20, 2018, 8:13:58 AM9/20/18
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YOu still don't get it. The burden of proof rests on the person who makes the claim. ARE YOU STUPID OR WHAT?

vtand...@gmail.com

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Sep 20, 2018, 8:52:17 AM9/20/18
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That's a misleading headline.. It implies that everybody is suing Trump for non payment. Here is the breakdown of lawsuits involving Trump's 500 plus different companies:(from your link)

Total lawsuits over 50 years=3500
Trump was the plaintiff in 1900 of them(he was suing someone else)
Trump was the defendant in 1450(someone suing him)
Other 150

There were 3500 lawsuits over a 50 year period
That's an average of 70 per year.

Trump owns more than 500 companies
That averages out to 7/50 or 14% of his companies involved in lawsuits

Since he was the defendant in only 1450 of the suits
That means that less than 6% of his vendors sued him.

USA today is a liberal democratic newspaper. See how they try and bias people against Trump?

Guess what? I worked for a company that was closing down it's operations in 1987. I was the Controller.. My boss told me to call our vendors and negotiate with them about paying less than we owed them. They all agreed because they were afraid they would get nothing if we went out of business.

I suspect Trump used the same tactic. It's business.

Before a businessman agrees to give credit to someone, he should research the guy's payment record. If the guy is a slow payer, you give him no credit(make him pay in advance) or give him very little credit. I suspect some of Trump's creditors did not do their homework.

Mitchell Holman

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Sep 20, 2018, 8:53:35 AM9/20/18
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vtand...@gmail.com wrote in
news:f995a11f-4857-4dfe...@googlegroups.com:
When is the last time YOU backed up one of YOUR claims?






"So would the United States Navy. They do not accept homosexuals."
Arty/Joe, Jan 13, 2018
http://tinyurl.com/y7gcevbc



vs.............




Navy Celebrates 2017 LGBT Pride Month
5/31/2017

WASHINGTON (NNS) -- The Navy joins the
nation in recognizing Lesbian, Gay,
Bisexual, and Transgender (LGBT) Pride
Month throughout June.The Department of
Defense (DoD) began observing LGBT Pride
Month in 2012.
https://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=100788






vtand...@gmail.com

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Sep 20, 2018, 9:01:03 AM9/20/18
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ROTFL! So far, Trump has not spent any of that money. He has got one estimate
on the space force and submitted one request for a budget on the wall.

GET IT? NONE OF THAT MONEY HAS BEEN SPENT YET!!!!

It's politics, dimwit. He made a promise to his supporters and the voters to build the wall, so he has to ask for the money from Congress to show he is trying to keep his promise. The Space Force will go the way of Reagan's Star Wars-lots of talk and nothing else IMO.

You and Holman have got to be 2 of the most gullible people alive.
You don't understand what you read and you can't face reality..

Mitchell Holman

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Sep 20, 2018, 9:24:36 AM9/20/18
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vtand...@gmail.com wrote in
news:241d151a-8063-4f71...@googlegroups.com:
>> Hundreds allege Donald Trump doesn’t pay his bills
>> April 25, 2018
>> http://tinyurl.com/lod9v2r
>
>
>
> That's a misleading headline.. It implies that everybody is suing
> Trump for non payment. Here is the breakdown of lawsuits involving
> Trump's 500 plus different companies:(from your link)
>
> Total lawsuits over 50 years=3500
> Trump was the plaintiff in 1900 of them(he was suing someone else)
> Trump was the defendant in 1450(someone suing him)
> Other 150
>
> There were 3500 lawsuits over a 50 year period
> That's an average of 70 per year.
>
> Trump owns more than 500 companies
> That averages out to 7/50 or 14% of his companies involved in lawsuits
>
> Since he was the defendant in only 1450 of the suits



1450 lawsuits for non payment.

What does that tell you?

Can you name ANY famous businessman,
from Bill Gates to Steve Jobs to Elon Musk
to Michael Dell to Jeff Bezos who has been
sued THAT many times for cheating venders?



> That means that less than 6% of his vendors sued him.


That means a lot of his venders hit with
Trump's "I promised you X but I am only going
to pay you Y, take it or leave it" ultimatum
didn't sue.

Malte Runz

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Sep 20, 2018, 5:13:33 PM9/20/18
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>ROTFL! So far, Trump has not spent any of that money. ...

YOU CAN'T READ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mitchell wrote "Trumps wants billions..."

> ... He has got one estimate
> on the space force and submitted one request for a budget on the wall.
>
>GET IT? NONE OF THAT MONEY HAS BEEN SPENT YET!!!!

"Trump wants billions..." The operative word is "wants". "GET IT?" I
never said that he had spent any of the money. This is such an obvious
LIE!!!!!!!!!!!! from you and it goes straight to the achieves.

>
>It's politics, dimwit. He made a promise to his supporters and the voters to build the wall, so he has to ask for the money from Congress to show he is trying to keep his promise. ...

So, why did you ask for "EVIDENCE!" when Mitchell said "Trump wants
billions for his wall", when it is now apparent that you know he
WANTED THE FUCKING BILLIONS? Don't you see it? You're all over the
place. 'Tandy on ice'.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSh1eLrxiqs


> ... The Space Force will go the way of Reagan's Star Wars-lots of talk and nothing else IMO.

[Moving the goal posts right back] The claim was that Trump wanted the
money, you asked for "EVIDENCE!" and it was delivered.

>
>You and Holman have got to be 2 of the most gullible people alive.
>You don't understand what you read and you can't face reality..

The reality being that Trump asked for the money, you asked for
"EVIDENCE!" and you had it rammed up your rear end. If you're nice
about it, I'll use a lubricant next time. Maybe even let you choose
orifice.

Grow some balls, Tandofsky, grow some fucking balls. You're the kind
who'll never admit being in the wrong. You acted like you didn't
believe that Trump wanted the billions for the three projects, and
when you were given the "EVIDENCE!" you demanded, you started to hurl
insults. Petty little insults, coming from a petty little prick.

--
Malte Runz

Malte Runz

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Sep 20, 2018, 5:21:54 PM9/20/18
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On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 05:52:14 -0700 (PDT), vtand...@gmail.com wrote:

(snip)

>Trump owns more than 500 companies
>That averages out to 7/50 or 14% of his companies involved in lawsuits
>
>Since he was the defendant in only 1450 of the suits
>That means that less than 6% of his vendors sued him.

That's one in sixteen... and the man is the current POTUS.

You didn't vote for Trump, did you?


>USA today is a liberal democratic newspaper. See how they try and bias people against Trump?
>
>Guess what? I worked for a company that was closing down it's operations in 1987. I was the Controller.. My boss told me to call our vendors and negotiate with them about paying less than we owed them. They all agreed because they were afraid they would get nothing if we went out of business.
>
>I suspect Trump used the same tactic. It's business.

The tactic of failing businesses. You say the liberal press is biased,
and you're not wrong. But aren't you equally biased in his favor?
>
>Before a businessman agrees to give credit to someone, he should research the guy's payment record. If the guy is a slow payer, you give him no credit(make him pay in advance) or give him very little credit. I suspect some of Trump's creditors did not do their homework.

Neither did a lot of voters back in '16.

--
Malte Runz

Siri Cruise

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Sep 20, 2018, 9:25:52 PM9/20/18
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In article <5e38qddh3uuick15q...@4ax.com>,
Malte Runz <nob...@busine.ss> wrote:

> very little credit. I suspect some of Trump's creditors did not do their
> homework.
>
> Neither did a lot of voters back in '16.

They did. They're lazy white dudes who can't cope with being treated as equals.
So they want to destroy the government in the belief the next government will
put them back on top.

With healthcare, coal mine and ash poisoning, drinking water, tariff backlash,
wasting money on doomed industries, and all the rest, they are getting the worst
of iDJT's incompetence which just redoubles their support of iDJT. That's the
real idiocracy.

Mitchell Holman

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Sep 20, 2018, 10:01:55 PM9/20/18
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vtand...@gmail.com wrote in
news:e2905a2f-d640-479f...@googlegroups.com:

>
>
> It's politics, dimwit. He made a promise to his supporters and the
> voters to build the wall, so he has to ask for the money from Congress
> to show he is trying to keep his promise.


Ask money from Congress?

What happened to "...and Mexico will pay for it"?




duke

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Sep 21, 2018, 5:28:41 PM9/21/18
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On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 19:03:46 -0700 (PDT), Yap Honghor <hhya...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Thursday, September 20, 2018 at 2:57:02 AM UTC+8, duke wrote:
>> On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 01:48:19 -0700 (PDT), Yap Honghor <hhya...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Sunday, September 16, 2018 at 7:47:22 PM UTC+8, vtand...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >> https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/foreign-policy/item/28282-trump-s-un-budget-cuts-funding-some-agencies-would-get-zero
>> >
>> >Trumpidiot knows nuts about anything....
>> >He knows how to lie, how to grope and gets away with it!!!

>> Did you see him grope you?

>No

Then don't complain. He likes beautiful women.
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