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Mitchell Holman
Nov 6, 2015, 10:37:50 PM11/6/15
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7 facts about atheists
Nov 5 2015
1 The share of Americans who identify as atheists has
roughly doubled in the past several years.
2 Atheists, in general, are more likely to be male and
younger than the overall population; 68% are men, and
the median age of atheist adults in the U.S. is 34
3 Self-identified atheists tend to be aligned with the
Democratic Party and with political liberalism.
4 Although the literal definition of "atheist" is "a
person who believes that God does not exist," according
to the Merriam-Webster dictionary, 8% of those who call
themselves atheists also say they believe in God or a
universal spirit.
5 Unsurprisingly, more than nine-in-ten self-identified
atheists say religion is not too or not at all important
in their lives, and nearly all (97%) say they seldom or
never pray.
6 In the 2014 Religious Landscape Study, self-identified
atheists were asked how often they share their views on
God and religion with religious people.
7 Virtually no atheists (1%) turn to religion for guidance
on questions of right and wrong, but increasing numbers are
turning to science.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/11/05/7-facts-about-atheists/
J
Nov 6, 2015, 11:06:46 PM11/6/15
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On Fri, 06 Nov 2015 21:37:46 -0600, Mitchell Holman <noe...@att.net>
wrote:
>
>
>
>
>7 facts about atheists
>Nov 5 2015
>
>
>1 The share of Americans who identify as atheists has
>roughly doubled in the past several years.
>
>
>2 Atheists, in general, are more likely to be male and
>younger than the overall population; 68% are men, and
>the median age of atheist adults in the U.S. is 34
>
>
>3 Self-identified atheists tend to be aligned with the
>Democratic Party and with political liberalism.
>
>
Tend to be but not exclusively
>4 Although the literal definition of "atheist" is "a
>person who believes that God does not exist," according
>to the Merriam-Webster dictionary, 8% of those who call
>themselves atheists also say they believe in God or a
>universal spirit.
>
>
>5 Unsurprisingly, more than nine-in-ten self-identified
>atheists say religion is not too or not at all important
>in their lives, and nearly all (97%) say they seldom or
>never pray.
>
>
>6 In the 2014 Religious Landscape Study, self-identified
>atheists were asked how often they share their views on
>God and religion with religious people.
>
>
>7 Virtually no atheists (1%) turn to religion for guidance
>on questions of right and wrong, but increasing numbers are
>turning to science.
I am part of that 1%. Sadly, religious people do not adhere to what
their religion is telling them. They interpret what is meant to be
good as an excuse to do evil. But what their religion is teaching them
is moral and right as far as how to behave civilly and decently. Too
bad they don't do it.
J Young
jdyo...@ymail.com
http://www.godlessprolifers.org/home.html
wrote:
>
>
>
>
>7 facts about atheists
>Nov 5 2015
>
>
>1 The share of Americans who identify as atheists has
>roughly doubled in the past several years.
>
>
>2 Atheists, in general, are more likely to be male and
>younger than the overall population; 68% are men, and
>the median age of atheist adults in the U.S. is 34
>
>
>3 Self-identified atheists tend to be aligned with the
>Democratic Party and with political liberalism.
>
>
>4 Although the literal definition of "atheist" is "a
>person who believes that God does not exist," according
>to the Merriam-Webster dictionary, 8% of those who call
>themselves atheists also say they believe in God or a
>universal spirit.
>
>
>5 Unsurprisingly, more than nine-in-ten self-identified
>atheists say religion is not too or not at all important
>in their lives, and nearly all (97%) say they seldom or
>never pray.
>
>
>6 In the 2014 Religious Landscape Study, self-identified
>atheists were asked how often they share their views on
>God and religion with religious people.
>
>
>7 Virtually no atheists (1%) turn to religion for guidance
>on questions of right and wrong, but increasing numbers are
>turning to science.
their religion is telling them. They interpret what is meant to be
good as an excuse to do evil. But what their religion is teaching them
is moral and right as far as how to behave civilly and decently. Too
bad they don't do it.
J Young
jdyo...@ymail.com
http://www.godlessprolifers.org/home.html
Josh Miles
Nov 7, 2015, 12:02:30 AM11/7/15
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On 11/6/2015 10:06 PM, J wrote:
>> 7 Virtually no atheists (1%) turn to religion for guidance
>> on questions of right and wrong, but increasing numbers are
>> turning to science.
>
>
>
>
> I am part of that 1%. Sadly, religious people do not adhere to what
> their religion is telling them. They interpret what is meant to be
> good as an excuse to do evil. But what their religion is teaching them
> is moral and right as far as how to behave civilly and decently. Too
> bad they don't do it.
Bullshit. You agree with fundamentalist Christians on nearly everything:
>> 7 Virtually no atheists (1%) turn to religion for guidance
>> on questions of right and wrong, but increasing numbers are
>> turning to science.
>
>
>
>
> I am part of that 1%. Sadly, religious people do not adhere to what
> their religion is telling them. They interpret what is meant to be
> good as an excuse to do evil. But what their religion is teaching them
> is moral and right as far as how to behave civilly and decently. Too
> bad they don't do it.
you are an anti-Semite, you are a racist, you are a misogynist, and you
are a homophobe.
Jeanne Douglas
Nov 7, 2015, 1:47:04 AM11/7/15
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In article <aqtq3blgot17jm6jn...@4ax.com>,
> >4 Although the literal definition of "atheist" is "a
> >person who believes that God does not exist," according
> >to the Merriam-Webster dictionary, 8% of those who call
> >themselves atheists also say they believe in God or a
> >universal spirit.
> >
> >
> >5 Unsurprisingly, more than nine-in-ten self-identified
> >atheists say religion is not too or not at all important
> >in their lives, and nearly all (97%) say they seldom or
> >never pray.
> >
> >
> >6 In the 2014 Religious Landscape Study, self-identified
> >atheists were asked how often they share their views on
> >God and religion with religious people.
> >
> >
> >7 Virtually no atheists (1%) turn to religion for guidance
> >on questions of right and wrong, but increasing numbers are
> >turning to science.
>
>
>
>
> I am part of that 1%. Sadly, religious people do not adhere to what
> their religion is telling them. They interpret what is meant to be
> good as an excuse to do evil. But what their religion is teaching them
> is moral and right as far as how to behave civilly and decently. Too
> bad they don't do it.
Oh, look, "j"'s pretending to be an atheist again.
--
JD
I've officially given up trying to find the bottom
of the barrel that is Republican depravity.--Jidyom
Rosario, Addicting Info
J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 06 Nov 2015 21:37:46 -0600, Mitchell Holman <noe...@att.net>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >7 facts about atheists
> >Nov 5 2015
> >
> >
> >1 The share of Americans who identify as atheists has
> >roughly doubled in the past several years.
> >
> >
> >2 Atheists, in general, are more likely to be male and
> >younger than the overall population; 68% are men, and
> >the median age of atheist adults in the U.S. is 34
> >
> >
> >3 Self-identified atheists tend to be aligned with the
> >Democratic Party and with political liberalism.
> >
> >
>
> Tend to be but not exclusively
Yes, that's what it said. Why are you repeating it?
> On Fri, 06 Nov 2015 21:37:46 -0600, Mitchell Holman <noe...@att.net>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >7 facts about atheists
> >Nov 5 2015
> >
> >
> >1 The share of Americans who identify as atheists has
> >roughly doubled in the past several years.
> >
> >
> >2 Atheists, in general, are more likely to be male and
> >younger than the overall population; 68% are men, and
> >the median age of atheist adults in the U.S. is 34
> >
> >
> >3 Self-identified atheists tend to be aligned with the
> >Democratic Party and with political liberalism.
> >
> >
>
> Tend to be but not exclusively
> >4 Although the literal definition of "atheist" is "a
> >person who believes that God does not exist," according
> >to the Merriam-Webster dictionary, 8% of those who call
> >themselves atheists also say they believe in God or a
> >universal spirit.
> >
> >
> >5 Unsurprisingly, more than nine-in-ten self-identified
> >atheists say religion is not too or not at all important
> >in their lives, and nearly all (97%) say they seldom or
> >never pray.
> >
> >
> >6 In the 2014 Religious Landscape Study, self-identified
> >atheists were asked how often they share their views on
> >God and religion with religious people.
> >
> >
> >7 Virtually no atheists (1%) turn to religion for guidance
> >on questions of right and wrong, but increasing numbers are
> >turning to science.
>
>
>
>
> I am part of that 1%. Sadly, religious people do not adhere to what
> their religion is telling them. They interpret what is meant to be
> good as an excuse to do evil. But what their religion is teaching them
> is moral and right as far as how to behave civilly and decently. Too
> bad they don't do it.
--
JD
I've officially given up trying to find the bottom
of the barrel that is Republican depravity.--Jidyom
Rosario, Addicting Info
Andrew
Nov 7, 2015, 3:34:51 AM11/7/15
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"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message news:XnsA54ADBEB2E2...@216.166.97.131...
> http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/11/05/7-facts-about-atheists/
Interesting to note that some atheists believe in God,
..also that some of them pray.
So where do you fit in?
Interesting to note that some atheists believe in God,
..also that some of them pray.
So where do you fit in?
Andrew
Nov 7, 2015, 3:38:21 AM11/7/15
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"Josh Miles" wrote in message news:n1k0gs$r4k$1...@dont-email.me...
Yet you fail to see that you are a bigot. (Look it up.)
RedAcer
Nov 7, 2015, 6:44:52 AM11/7/15
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are obviously confused about the meaning of the word.
>
> ..also that some of them pray.
make it happen. If you can't make it happen alone then elicit the help
of others.
bil...@m.nu
Nov 7, 2015, 8:02:29 AM11/7/15
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>7 facts about atheists
>Nov 5 2015
>
>
>1 The share of Americans who identify as atheists has
>roughly doubled in the past several years.
>
>
>2 Atheists, in general, are more likely to be male and
>younger than the overall population; 68% are men, and
>the median age of atheist adults in the U.S. is 34
>
>
>3 Self-identified atheists tend to be aligned with the
>Democratic Party and with political liberalism.
>
>
>4 Although the literal definition of "atheist" is "a
>person who believes that God does not exist," according
WRONG!!!!!
>Nov 5 2015
>
>
>1 The share of Americans who identify as atheists has
>roughly doubled in the past several years.
>
>
>2 Atheists, in general, are more likely to be male and
>younger than the overall population; 68% are men, and
>the median age of atheist adults in the U.S. is 34
>
>
>3 Self-identified atheists tend to be aligned with the
>Democratic Party and with political liberalism.
>
>
>4 Although the literal definition of "atheist" is "a
>person who believes that God does not exist," according
>to the Merriam-Webster dictionary, 8% of those who call
>themselves atheists also say they believe in God or a
>universal spirit.
>
>
>5 Unsurprisingly, more than nine-in-ten self-identified
>atheists say religion is not too or not at all important
>in their lives, and nearly all (97%) say they seldom or
>never pray.
>
>
>6 In the 2014 Religious Landscape Study, self-identified
>atheists were asked how often they share their views on
>God and religion with religious people.
That is just dumb because atheists have no views on god or religon
>5 Unsurprisingly, more than nine-in-ten self-identified
>atheists say religion is not too or not at all important
>in their lives, and nearly all (97%) say they seldom or
>never pray.
>
>
>6 In the 2014 Religious Landscape Study, self-identified
>atheists were asked how often they share their views on
>God and religion with religious people.
Christopher A. Lee
Nov 7, 2015, 9:37:42 AM11/7/15
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On Sat, 07 Nov 2015 07:02:20 -0600, bil...@m.nu wrote:
>On Fri, 06 Nov 2015 21:37:46 -0600, Mitchell Holman <noe...@att.net>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>7 facts about atheists
>>Nov 5 2015
>>
>>
>>1 The share of Americans who identify as atheists has
>>roughly doubled in the past several years.
>>
>>
>>2 Atheists, in general, are more likely to be male and
>>younger than the overall population; 68% are men, and
>>the median age of atheist adults in the U.S. is 34
>>
>>
>>3 Self-identified atheists tend to be aligned with the
>>Democratic Party and with political liberalism.
>>
>>
>>4 Although the literal definition of "atheist" is "a
>>person who believes that God does not exist," according
>
>WRONG!!!!!
>
>>to the Merriam-Webster dictionary, 8% of those who call
>>themselves atheists also say they believe in God or a
>>universal spirit.
Neither dictionaries nor theists who can't think outside their
>On Fri, 06 Nov 2015 21:37:46 -0600, Mitchell Holman <noe...@att.net>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>7 facts about atheists
>>Nov 5 2015
>>
>>
>>1 The share of Americans who identify as atheists has
>>roughly doubled in the past several years.
>>
>>
>>2 Atheists, in general, are more likely to be male and
>>younger than the overall population; 68% are men, and
>>the median age of atheist adults in the U.S. is 34
>>
>>
>>3 Self-identified atheists tend to be aligned with the
>>Democratic Party and with political liberalism.
>>
>>
>>4 Although the literal definition of "atheist" is "a
>>person who believes that God does not exist," according
>
>WRONG!!!!!
>
>>to the Merriam-Webster dictionary, 8% of those who call
>>themselves atheists also say they believe in God or a
>>universal spirit.
religion, get to tell atheists what our POV "really" is.
>Again Wring, because then they would not be atheists
>>
>>5 Unsurprisingly, more than nine-in-ten self-identified
>>atheists say religion is not too or not at all important
>>in their lives, and nearly all (97%) say they seldom or
>>never pray.
>>
>>
>>6 In the 2014 Religious Landscape Study, self-identified
>>atheists were asked how often they share their views on
>>God and religion with religious people.
>
>That is just dumb because atheists have no views on god or religon
>>
>>
>>7 Virtually no atheists (1%) turn to religion for guidance
>>on questions of right and wrong, but increasing numbers are
>>turning to science.
>>
>>
>>http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/11/05/7-facts-about-atheists/
means to an atheist to be atheist and projected the behavioural
consequences of their own theism onto people outside the theist box.
No matter how often you point out that all it means to be atheist is
not being theist and that we are outside _any_ theist paradigm so
gods, scripture, etc are merely somebody else's religious belief, it
_never_ sinks in.
But if they realised this, all their misconceptions would vanish.
Religion makes people stupid because it blocks out the world beyond
it.
hypatiab7
Nov 7, 2015, 10:20:12 AM11/7/15
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On Friday, November 6, 2015 at 11:06:46 PM UTC-5, J wrote:
> On Fri, 06 Nov 2015 21:37:46 -0600, Mitchell Holman <noe...@att.net>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >7 facts about atheists
> >Nov 5 2015
> >
> >
> >1 The share of Americans who identify as atheists has
> >roughly doubled in the past several years.
> >
> >
> >2 Atheists, in general, are more likely to be male and
> >younger than the overall population; 68% are men, and
> >the median age of atheist adults in the U.S. is 34
> >
> >
> >3 Self-identified atheists tend to be aligned with the
> >Democratic Party and with political liberalism.
> >
> >
>
> Tend to be but not exclusively
That's what tends to means, jj. Look it up.
> On Fri, 06 Nov 2015 21:37:46 -0600, Mitchell Holman <noe...@att.net>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >7 facts about atheists
> >Nov 5 2015
> >
> >
> >1 The share of Americans who identify as atheists has
> >roughly doubled in the past several years.
> >
> >
> >2 Atheists, in general, are more likely to be male and
> >younger than the overall population; 68% are men, and
> >the median age of atheist adults in the U.S. is 34
> >
> >
> >3 Self-identified atheists tend to be aligned with the
> >Democratic Party and with political liberalism.
> >
> >
>
> Tend to be but not exclusively
>
>
>
>
> >4 Although the literal definition of "atheist" is "a
> >person who believes that God does not exist," according
> >to the Merriam-Webster dictionary, 8% of those who call
> >themselves atheists also say they believe in God or a
> >universal spirit.
> >
> >
> >5 Unsurprisingly, more than nine-in-ten self-identified
> >atheists say religion is not too or not at all important
> >in their lives, and nearly all (97%) say they seldom or
> >never pray.
> >
> >
> >6 In the 2014 Religious Landscape Study, self-identified
> >atheists were asked how often they share their views on
> >God and religion with religious people.
> >
> >
> >7 Virtually no atheists (1%) turn to religion for guidance
> >on questions of right and wrong, but increasing numbers are
> >turning to science.
>
>
>
>
> I am part of that 1%. Sadly, religious people do not adhere to what
> their religion is telling them. They interpret what is meant to be
> good as an excuse to do evil. But what their religion is teaching them
> is moral and right as far as how to behave civilly and decently. Too
> bad they don't do it.
>
>
>
> J Young
>
Still lying about being an atheist, jj?
>
>
>
> >4 Although the literal definition of "atheist" is "a
> >person who believes that God does not exist," according
> >to the Merriam-Webster dictionary, 8% of those who call
> >themselves atheists also say they believe in God or a
> >universal spirit.
> >
> >
> >5 Unsurprisingly, more than nine-in-ten self-identified
> >atheists say religion is not too or not at all important
> >in their lives, and nearly all (97%) say they seldom or
> >never pray.
> >
> >
> >6 In the 2014 Religious Landscape Study, self-identified
> >atheists were asked how often they share their views on
> >God and religion with religious people.
> >
> >
> >7 Virtually no atheists (1%) turn to religion for guidance
> >on questions of right and wrong, but increasing numbers are
> >turning to science.
>
>
>
>
> I am part of that 1%. Sadly, religious people do not adhere to what
> their religion is telling them. They interpret what is meant to be
> good as an excuse to do evil. But what their religion is teaching them
> is moral and right as far as how to behave civilly and decently. Too
> bad they don't do it.
>
>
>
> J Young
>
hypatiab7
Nov 7, 2015, 10:25:58 AM11/7/15
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>
> So where do you fit in?
Atheists lack belief in a god or gods, so there is nothing to pry to.
> So where do you fit in?
People who call themselves atheists and say that they believe in a god
and pray to it are either very confused or lying (like J).
Davej
Nov 7, 2015, 10:27:20 AM11/7/15
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On Friday, November 6, 2015 at 10:06:46 PM UTC-6, J wrote:
Republican party which is constantly pandering to King James
Biblical fundamentalism.
> >7 Virtually no atheists (1%) turn to religion for guidance
> > on questions of right and wrong, but increasing numbers are
> > turning to science.
>
>
> I am part of that 1%. Sadly, religious people do not adhere
> to what their religion is telling them. They interpret what
> is meant to be good as an excuse to do evil. But what their
> religion is teaching them is moral and right as far as how
> to behave civilly and decently. Too bad they don't do it.
If an atheist turns to religion for questions of morality then
will they look at the Old Testament? The New Testament? Buddhism?
Taoism? Islam? Confucianism? Wicca? They can probably find any
answer they want to find -- eye for eye, or turn the cheek.
> On Fri, 06 Nov 2015, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> >
> >3 Self-identified atheists tend to be aligned with the
> >Democratic Party and with political liberalism.
>
>
> Tend to be but not exclusively
More accurately an atheist is generally repelled by the
> >
> >3 Self-identified atheists tend to be aligned with the
> >Democratic Party and with political liberalism.
>
>
> Tend to be but not exclusively
Republican party which is constantly pandering to King James
Biblical fundamentalism.
> >7 Virtually no atheists (1%) turn to religion for guidance
> > on questions of right and wrong, but increasing numbers are
> > turning to science.
>
>
> I am part of that 1%. Sadly, religious people do not adhere
> to what their religion is telling them. They interpret what
> is meant to be good as an excuse to do evil. But what their
> religion is teaching them is moral and right as far as how
> to behave civilly and decently. Too bad they don't do it.
will they look at the Old Testament? The New Testament? Buddhism?
Taoism? Islam? Confucianism? Wicca? They can probably find any
answer they want to find -- eye for eye, or turn the cheek.
Alex W.
Nov 7, 2015, 12:44:55 PM11/7/15
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On 07/11/2015 15:27, Davej wrote:
> On Friday, November 6, 2015 at 10:06:46 PM UTC-6, J wrote:
>> On Fri, 06 Nov 2015, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>
>>> 3 Self-identified atheists tend to be aligned with the
>>> Democratic Party and with political liberalism.
>>
>>
>> Tend to be but not exclusively
>
> More accurately an atheist is generally repelled by the
> Republican party which is constantly pandering to King James
> Biblical fundamentalism.
Out of curiosity, what do American atheists do and how would they vote
> On Friday, November 6, 2015 at 10:06:46 PM UTC-6, J wrote:
>> On Fri, 06 Nov 2015, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>
>>> 3 Self-identified atheists tend to be aligned with the
>>> Democratic Party and with political liberalism.
>>
>>
>> Tend to be but not exclusively
>
> More accurately an atheist is generally repelled by the
> Republican party which is constantly pandering to King James
> Biblical fundamentalism.
if they find themselves in agreement with secular Republican positions
such as fiscal conservatism, small government or even social conservatism?
Alex W.
Nov 7, 2015, 12:46:02 PM11/7/15
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and still use prayer as a form of meditation.
MarkA
Nov 7, 2015, 1:06:37 PM11/7/15
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Protestant fundamentalists. If and when "secular Republicanism" comes to
pass, it will be interesting to see what their positions are.
--
MarkA
The best revenge is to be unlike him who performed the injury.
-- Marcus Aurelius
MarkA
Nov 7, 2015, 1:08:36 PM11/7/15
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self-proclaimed atheists who believe in God, but are angry at Him. C.S.
Lewis comes to mind.
MarkA
Nov 7, 2015, 1:11:37 PM11/7/15
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On Sat, 07 Nov 2015 07:02:20 -0600, bilgat wrote:
> On Fri, 06 Nov 2015 21:37:46 -0600, Mitchell Holman <noe...@att.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>>7 facts about atheists Nov 5 2015
>>
>>
>>1 The share of Americans who identify as atheists has roughly doubled in
>>the past several years.
>>
>>
>>2 Atheists, in general, are more likely to be male and younger than the
>>overall population; 68% are men, and the median age of atheist adults in
>>the U.S. is 34
>>
>>
>>3 Self-identified atheists tend to be aligned with the Democratic Party
>>and with political liberalism.
>>
>>
>>4 Although the literal definition of "atheist" is "a person who believes
>>that God does not exist," according
>
> WRONG!!!!!
>
>>to the Merriam-Webster dictionary, 8% of those who call themselves
>>atheists also say they believe in God or a universal spirit.
>>
>>
> Again Wring, because then they would not be atheists
>>
>>5 Unsurprisingly, more than nine-in-ten self-identified atheists say
>>religion is not too or not at all important in their lives, and nearly
>>all (97%) say they seldom or never pray.
>>
>>
>>6 In the 2014 Religious Landscape Study, self-identified atheists were
>>asked how often they share their views on God and religion with
>>religious people.
>
> That is just dumb because atheists have no views on god or religon
The *idea* of god, and religion, have a significant influence on our
> On Fri, 06 Nov 2015 21:37:46 -0600, Mitchell Holman <noe...@att.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>>7 facts about atheists Nov 5 2015
>>
>>
>>1 The share of Americans who identify as atheists has roughly doubled in
>>the past several years.
>>
>>
>>2 Atheists, in general, are more likely to be male and younger than the
>>overall population; 68% are men, and the median age of atheist adults in
>>the U.S. is 34
>>
>>
>>3 Self-identified atheists tend to be aligned with the Democratic Party
>>and with political liberalism.
>>
>>
>>4 Although the literal definition of "atheist" is "a person who believes
>>that God does not exist," according
>
> WRONG!!!!!
>
>>to the Merriam-Webster dictionary, 8% of those who call themselves
>>atheists also say they believe in God or a universal spirit.
>>
>>
> Again Wring, because then they would not be atheists
>>
>>5 Unsurprisingly, more than nine-in-ten self-identified atheists say
>>religion is not too or not at all important in their lives, and nearly
>>all (97%) say they seldom or never pray.
>>
>>
>>6 In the 2014 Religious Landscape Study, self-identified atheists were
>>asked how often they share their views on God and religion with
>>religious people.
>
> That is just dumb because atheists have no views on god or religon
society. Therefore, I certainly DO have views on them. Just as I have
views on Astrology.
Alex W.
Nov 7, 2015, 1:14:49 PM11/7/15
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re-converted to Christianity, helped in no small part by JRR Tolkien.
zacky
Nov 7, 2015, 1:18:49 PM11/7/15
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zacky
Nov 7, 2015, 1:23:59 PM11/7/15
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MarkA
Nov 7, 2015, 1:31:51 PM11/7/15
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alcoholic, and Lewis had problems believing in a just, merciful God when
his father was abusive. He called himself an atheist, even though he was
actually an unhappy theist.
--
MarkA
They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it's not one
half so bad as a lot of ignorance. -- Terry Pratchett
MattB
Nov 7, 2015, 1:36:03 PM11/7/15
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http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2014/oct/28/facebook-posts/viral-meme-says-1956-republican-platform-was-prett/
http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=25838
Josh Miles
Nov 8, 2015, 12:18:11 AM11/8/15
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Olrik
Nov 8, 2015, 12:19:49 AM11/8/15
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prostate/breast cancer test, etc.
I understand «prayer», but what's «meditation»? What goes on in your
brain when you're «meditating»?
--
Olrik
aa #1981
EAC Chief Food Inspector, Bacon Division
Alex W.
Nov 8, 2015, 6:50:05 AM11/8/15
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of mind, usually relaxation. You can use it to clear your head of the
hectic activity of daily life, give your mind a bit of a breather or let
it concentrate on a problem without distraction. How you get there is
up to you -- there are literally thousands of techniques. Some are
religious, many are not.
zacky
Nov 8, 2015, 7:42:41 AM11/8/15
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tt
Nov 8, 2015, 7:43:58 AM11/8/15
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duke
Nov 8, 2015, 12:17:21 PM11/8/15
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>7 facts about atheists
>Nov 5 2015
>1 The share of Americans who identify as atheists has
>roughly doubled in the past several years.
Twice as much fuel oil for the flames.
>Nov 5 2015
>1 The share of Americans who identify as atheists has
>roughly doubled in the past several years.
>2 Atheists, in general, are more likely to be male and
>younger than the overall population; 68% are men, and
>the median age of atheist adults in the U.S. is 34
>3 Self-identified atheists tend to be aligned with the
>Democratic Party and with political liberalism.
>4 Although the literal definition of "atheist" is "a
>person who believes that God does not exist,"
are agnostics.
>according
>to the Merriam-Webster dictionary, 8% of those who call
>themselves atheists also say they believe in God or a
>universal spirit.
>5 Unsurprisingly, more than nine-in-ten self-identified
>atheists say religion is not too or not at all important
>in their lives, and nearly all (97%) say they seldom or
>never pray.
late for them.
>6 In the 2014 Religious Landscape Study, self-identified
>atheists were asked how often they share their views on
>God and religion with religious people.
>7 Virtually no atheists (1%) turn to religion for guidance
>on questions of right and wrong, but increasing numbers are
Science virtually confirms the existence of God.
>http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/11/05/7-facts-about-atheists/
the dukester, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
JTEM
Nov 8, 2015, 1:09:55 PM11/8/15
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Mitchell Holman wrote:
> 1 The share of Americans who identify as atheists has
> roughly doubled in the past several years.
Islam has grown 160% -- more by some sources.
> 1 The share of Americans who identify as atheists has
> roughly doubled in the past several years.
> 2 Atheists, in general, are more likely to be male and
> younger than the overall population;
> 3 Self-identified atheists tend to be aligned with the
> Democratic Party and with political liberalism.
poll you're quoting states that a subset of atheists
ADMIT TO a belief in God.
> 4 Although the literal definition of "atheist" is "a
> to the Merriam-Webster dictionary, 8% of those who call
> themselves atheists also say they believe in God or a
> universal spirit.
"Admit to it."
> themselves atheists also say they believe in God or a
> universal spirit.
Most of the fake atheists are far too well trained to
let the truth slip out.
> 5 Unsurprisingly, more than nine-in-ten self-identified
> atheists say religion is not too or not at all important
> in their lives, and nearly all (97%) say they seldom or
> never pray.
The fact of the matter is that people IDENTIFY as one
thing but are something else. People ADMIT to one thing
but believe/do something else.
This is a poll you're quoting, not scientific research.
...not that a single fake atheist here knows the
difference.
-- --
http://jtem.tumblr.com/post/132809622843
tt
Nov 8, 2015, 6:08:23 PM11/8/15
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> > 4 Although the literal definition of "atheist" is "a
> > person who believes that God does not exist,"
>
> No, this is a false position often foisted upon atheists by theists
> > person who believes that God does not exist,"
>
> to shift the burden of proof. The correct definition is, "atheists do
> not believe in god." Note that this statement, though similar to
> yours, changes when the logical operator (not) of the sentence is
> moved. Your false statement demands that the burden of proof lies
> with the atheist who claims god does not exist. Just like the burden
> of proof would be mine if I were to claim, "Mitchell Holman does not
> wear spectacles." If instead I changed the placement of the logical
> operator (not) of that statement and claimed, "I do not believe
> Mitchell Holman wears spectacles." I would not have any burden upon
> me to prove it. I can simply continue claiming that I don't believe
> Mitchell Holman wears glasses until proof is provided.
>
> > according
> > to the Merriam-Webster dictionary, 8% of those who call
> > themselves atheists also say they believe in God or a
> > universal spirit.
>
> Then, that 8% are simply misguided as to what an atheist is. I can
> > according
> > to the Merriam-Webster dictionary, 8% of those who call
> > themselves atheists also say they believe in God or a
> > universal spirit.
>
> live with that.
athiets are gone 2hell
tt
Nov 8, 2015, 6:26:07 PM11/8/15
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Olrik
Nov 8, 2015, 11:24:28 PM11/8/15
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cool flick.
Thanks!
rja.ca...@gmail.com
Nov 9, 2015, 7:43:50 AM11/9/15
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an atheist is someone who doesn't worship gods -
not necessarily someone who doubts the existence
of supernatural supreme beings in the universe,
but someone who chooses to be not involved with any.
The sun may be your god, I accept the sun exists
but I don't worship it, etc. And if I get sunburned
then I may be angry at it, although it probably
would be my own fault.
Wexford Eire
Nov 9, 2015, 7:51:50 AM11/9/15
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Wexford Eire
Nov 9, 2015, 8:20:32 AM11/9/15
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On Sunday, November 8, 2015 at 1:09:55 PM UTC-5, JTEM wrote:
> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>
> > 1 The share of Americans who identify as atheists has
> > roughly doubled in the past several years.
>
> Islam has grown 160% -- more by some sources.
Islam is also the state religion in many countries and its religious leaders have considerable clout.Without professing Islam an individual hasn't much of a life. In some places abjuring Islam can be damn dangerous. How many professed Islamists are really cynical and are really agnostic or atheist but afraid to say so is anyone's guess. Religion is the preoccupation of the uneducated, anyway. As a society becomes increasingly more civilized and fair in the availability of education and medical treatment, religion fades away. Even in the United States today there are any number of people who attend church because they're expected-to but who really are agnostic or atheistic.
> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>
> > 1 The share of Americans who identify as atheists has
> > roughly doubled in the past several years.
>
> Islam has grown 160% -- more by some sources.
>
> > 2 Atheists, in general, are more likely to be male and
> > younger than the overall population;
>
> Which kind of suggests that they don't stay atheists.
> > 3 Self-identified atheists tend to be aligned with the
> > Democratic Party and with political liberalism.
>
> Self-identified atheists are rarely atheists. Even the
> poll you're quoting states that a subset of atheists
> ADMIT TO a belief in God.
> > 4 Although the literal definition of "atheist" is "a
> > person who believes that God does not exist," according
> > to the Merriam-Webster dictionary, 8% of those who call
> > themselves atheists also say they believe in God or a
> > universal spirit.
>
> "Admit to it."
"A recent Newsweek cover--in a bid to (finally) match the celebrated 1966 "Is God Dead?" cover of Time--read, in the shape of a cross: "The Decline and Fall of Christian America." Editor Jon Meacham's story highlights Newsweek's latest poll results showing that 10% fewer Americans identify as Christian today than twenty years ago. But more importantly, and mentioned only in passing, is the growth among atheists and secularists of all stripes." from Alternet
> Most of the fake atheists are far too well trained to
> let the truth slip out.
>
> > 5 Unsurprisingly, more than nine-in-ten self-identified
> > atheists say religion is not too or not at all important
> > in their lives, and nearly all (97%) say they seldom or
> > never pray.
>
> So once again we see how few admit to the truth...
>
> The fact of the matter is that people IDENTIFY as one
> thing but are something else. People ADMIT to one thing
> but believe/do something else.
>
> This is a poll you're quoting, not scientific research.
> ...not that a single fake atheist here knows the
> difference.
>
JTEM
Dec 10, 2015, 1:57:08 AM12/10/15
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Wexford Eire wrote:
> > Self-identified atheists are rarely atheists. Even the
> > poll you're quoting states that a subset of atheists
> > ADMIT TO a belief in God.
> This is just your wishful thinking. The argument of
You're living in a fantasy world. If you had merely read
> > Self-identified atheists are rarely atheists. Even the
> > poll you're quoting states that a subset of atheists
> > ADMIT TO a belief in God.
> This is just your wishful thinking. The argument of
the poll, instead of leaping on what you want to believe,
you would have saw that I was right.
Stop being an idiot.
-- --
http://jtem.tumblr.com/post/134892770608
Joe Bruno
Dec 11, 2015, 1:03:54 AM12/11/15
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On Friday, November 6, 2015 at 9:02:30 PM UTC-8, Josh Miles wrote:
> On 11/6/2015 10:06 PM, J wrote:
> On 11/6/2015 10:06 PM, J wrote:
> >> 7 Virtually no atheists (1%) turn to religion for guidance
> >> on questions of right and wrong, but increasing numbers are
> >> on questions of right and wrong, but increasing numbers are
> >> turning to science.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I am part of that 1%. Sadly, religious people do not adhere to what
> > their religion is telling them. They interpret what is meant to be
> > good as an excuse to do evil. But what their religion is teaching them
> > is moral and right as far as how to behave civilly and decently. Too
> > bad they don't do it.
>
> Bullshit. You agree with fundamentalist Christians on nearly everything:
> you are an anti-Semite, you are a racist, you are a misogynist, and you
> are a homophobe.
EVIDENCE????????????????????????
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I am part of that 1%. Sadly, religious people do not adhere to what
> > their religion is telling them. They interpret what is meant to be
> > good as an excuse to do evil. But what their religion is teaching them
> > is moral and right as far as how to behave civilly and decently. Too
> > bad they don't do it.
>
> Bullshit. You agree with fundamentalist Christians on nearly everything:
> you are an anti-Semite, you are a racist, you are a misogynist, and you
> are a homophobe.
Joe Bruno
Dec 11, 2015, 3:46:29 AM12/11/15
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On Saturday, November 7, 2015 at 6:37:42 AM UTC-8, Christopher A. Lee wrote:
> religion, get to tell atheists what our POV "really" is.
You don't have a real point of view, you raving scumbag.
You don't have the intestinal fortitude to adopt a point of view and stick to it or the integrity to state what you really think.
>
> As usual, the stupids who compiled this survey, had no idea what it
> means to an atheist to be atheist and projected the behavioural
> consequences of their own theism onto people outside the theist box.
What the fuck does that mean, you babbling jackass?
>
> No matter how often you point out that all it means to be atheist is
> not being theist and that we are outside _any_ theist paradigm so
> gods, scripture, etc are merely somebody else's religious belief, it
> _never_ sinks in.
>
> But if they realised this, all their misconceptions would vanish.
>
> Religion makes people stupid because it blocks out the world beyond
> it.
What a crock of shit. Outstanding scientists like Galileo and Newton were religious men, you lying sack of crap.
> On Sat, 07 Nov 2015 07:02:20 -0600, bil...@m.nu wrote:
>
> >On Fri, 06 Nov 2015 21:37:46 -0600, Mitchell Holman <noe...@att.net>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
> >On Fri, 06 Nov 2015 21:37:46 -0600, Mitchell Holman <noe...@att.net>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>7 facts about atheists
> >>Nov 5 2015
> >>
> >>
> >>Nov 5 2015
> >>
> >>
> >>1 The share of Americans who identify as atheists has
> >>roughly doubled in the past several years.
> >>
> >>
> >>roughly doubled in the past several years.
> >>
> >>
> >>2 Atheists, in general, are more likely to be male and
> >>younger than the overall population; 68% are men, and
> >>the median age of atheist adults in the U.S. is 34
> >>
> >>
> >>the median age of atheist adults in the U.S. is 34
> >>
> >>
> >>3 Self-identified atheists tend to be aligned with the
> >>Democratic Party and with political liberalism.
> >>
> >>
> >>Democratic Party and with political liberalism.
> >>
> >>
> >>4 Although the literal definition of "atheist" is "a
> >>person who believes that God does not exist," according
> >
> >WRONG!!!!!
> >>person who believes that God does not exist," according
> >
> >
> >>to the Merriam-Webster dictionary, 8% of those who call
> >>themselves atheists also say they believe in God or a
> >>universal spirit.
>
> Neither dictionaries nor theists who can't think outside their
> >>to the Merriam-Webster dictionary, 8% of those who call
> >>themselves atheists also say they believe in God or a
> >>universal spirit.
>
> religion, get to tell atheists what our POV "really" is.
You don't have a real point of view, you raving scumbag.
You don't have the intestinal fortitude to adopt a point of view and stick to it or the integrity to state what you really think.
>
> >Again Wring, because then they would not be atheists
> >>
> >Again Wring, because then they would not be atheists
> >>
> >>5 Unsurprisingly, more than nine-in-ten self-identified
> >>atheists say religion is not too or not at all important
> >>in their lives, and nearly all (97%) say they seldom or
> >>never pray.
> >>
> >>
> >>atheists say religion is not too or not at all important
> >>in their lives, and nearly all (97%) say they seldom or
> >>never pray.
> >>
> >>
> >>6 In the 2014 Religious Landscape Study, self-identified
> >>atheists were asked how often they share their views on
> >>God and religion with religious people.
> >
> >>atheists were asked how often they share their views on
> >>God and religion with religious people.
> >
> >That is just dumb because atheists have no views on god or religon
That's the biggest crock of shit on the planet.
> >>
> >>
> >>7 Virtually no atheists (1%) turn to religion for guidance
> >>on questions of right and wrong, but increasing numbers are
> >>turning to science.
> >>
> >>
> >>http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/11/05/7-facts-about-atheists/
> >>
> >>7 Virtually no atheists (1%) turn to religion for guidance
> >>on questions of right and wrong, but increasing numbers are
> >>turning to science.
> >>
> >>
>
> As usual, the stupids who compiled this survey, had no idea what it
> means to an atheist to be atheist and projected the behavioural
> consequences of their own theism onto people outside the theist box.
What the fuck does that mean, you babbling jackass?
>
> No matter how often you point out that all it means to be atheist is
> not being theist and that we are outside _any_ theist paradigm so
> gods, scripture, etc are merely somebody else's religious belief, it
> _never_ sinks in.
>
> But if they realised this, all their misconceptions would vanish.
>
> Religion makes people stupid because it blocks out the world beyond
> it.
What a crock of shit. Outstanding scientists like Galileo and Newton were religious men, you lying sack of crap.
rantingri...@gmail.com
Dec 11, 2015, 2:59:53 PM12/11/15
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On Saturday, November 7, 2015 at 9:25:58 AM UTC-6, hypatiab7 wrote:
> If they believe in a god and pray to it, they aren't atheists.
Indeed. Also throw in those Satanist who think that performing rituals with an image of baphomet and a pentagram is in any different than worshiping a plastic long hair man nailed to a plastic cross. Atheists my ass! And they can downplay the significance all they want, but I'm not listening.
> If they believe in a god and pray to it, they aren't atheists.
rantingri...@gmail.com
Dec 11, 2015, 3:05:37 PM12/11/15
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On Saturday, November 7, 2015 at 9:27:20 AM UTC-6, Davej wrote:
> More accurately an atheist is generally repelled by the
> Republican party which is constantly pandering to King James
> Biblical fundamentalism.
Some atheists are not only repelled by the Repubs, but equally by the Dems -- who are constantly pushing towards socialist/fascist fanaticism under the guise of creating a utopia. There will *NEVER* be a Utopia in this universe.
> More accurately an atheist is generally repelled by the
> Republican party which is constantly pandering to King James
> Biblical fundamentalism.
rantingri...@gmail.com
Dec 11, 2015, 3:23:05 PM12/11/15
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On Saturday, November 7, 2015 at 11:44:55 AM UTC-6, Alex W. wrote:
> Out of curiosity, what do American atheists do and how would they vote
> if they find themselves in agreement with secular Republican positions
> such as fiscal conservatism, small government or even social conservatism?
That's a difficult question to answer for American Atheists due to the binary and highly polarized political situation which we face these day. It really is "pick you poison" for us. But if i were to vote for a conservative (and sadly it seems they're all riddled with the theism), i would imagine the best choice would be a theist who is not a fundamentalist.
> Out of curiosity, what do American atheists do and how would they vote
> if they find themselves in agreement with secular Republican positions
> such as fiscal conservatism, small government or even social conservatism?
But i'm of the opinion that, there are many conservatives out there who are Atheists, but who cannot bear the rejection of family and friends, so they continue to wear the "theism mask". They go to mass on Sunday mornings, they own a bible (even though they've never read it), and they even pray. And they do all these things to prevent their families and friends from becoming distresses by the truth. I don't need to tell anyone here how irrational these theists can be.
I myself was one of these people.
It's been said that: "in the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king" -- but the author obviously did not take into consideration the ego defenses of brainwashed fools who, when confronted with truths that are diametrically opposed to everything they have come to believe, can become violent.
The one-eyed man might soon find a stick in his good eye!
PS: That last statement does raise the question of how the blind people would find the "one good eye"... hmm: my guess is that they would just home in on the sound of the blinks!
Cloud Hobbit
Dec 11, 2015, 4:52:37 PM12/11/15
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Cloud Hobbit
Dec 11, 2015, 4:57:36 PM12/11/15
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Jørgen Farum Jensen
Dec 11, 2015, 5:05:08 PM12/11/15
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Den 11-12-2015 kl. 21:23 skrev rantingri...@gmail.com:
> On Saturday, November 7, 2015 at 11:44:55 AM UTC-6, Alex W. wrote:
>> Out of curiosity, what do American atheists do and how would they
>> vote if they find themselves in agreement with secular Republican
>> positions such as fiscal conservatism, small government or even
>> social conservatism?
>
> That's a difficult question to answer for American Atheists due to
> the binary and highly polarized political situation which we face
> these day. It really is "pick you poison" for us. But if i were to
> vote for a conservative (and sadly it seems they're all riddled with
> the theism), i would imagine the best choice would be a theist who is
> not a fundamentalist.
> But i'm of the opinion that, there are many conservatives out there
> who are Atheists, but who cannot bear the rejection of family and
> friends, so they continue to wear the "theism mask". They go to mass
> on Sunday mornings, they own a bible (even though they've never read
> it), and they even pray. And they do all these things to prevent
> their families and friends from becoming distresses by the truth. I
> don't need to tell anyone here how irrational these theists can be.
The H.C.Andersen tale about the Emperors Clothes was once
> On Saturday, November 7, 2015 at 11:44:55 AM UTC-6, Alex W. wrote:
>> Out of curiosity, what do American atheists do and how would they
>> vote if they find themselves in agreement with secular Republican
>> positions such as fiscal conservatism, small government or even
>> social conservatism?
>
> That's a difficult question to answer for American Atheists due to
> the binary and highly polarized political situation which we face
> these day. It really is "pick you poison" for us. But if i were to
> vote for a conservative (and sadly it seems they're all riddled with
> the theism), i would imagine the best choice would be a theist who is
> not a fundamentalist.
> But i'm of the opinion that, there are many conservatives out there
> who are Atheists, but who cannot bear the rejection of family and
> friends, so they continue to wear the "theism mask". They go to mass
> on Sunday mornings, they own a bible (even though they've never read
> it), and they even pray. And they do all these things to prevent
> their families and friends from becoming distresses by the truth. I
> don't need to tell anyone here how irrational these theists can be.
commented on by I think Larry Niven, who wrote that in
todays political landscape the little boy would have been
ripped apart by the crowd.
> I myself was one of these people.
>
> It's been said that: "in the land of the blind, the one eyed man is
> king" -- but the author obviously did not take into consideration the
> ego defenses of brainwashed fools who, when confronted with truths
> that are diametrically opposed to everything they have come to
> believe, can become violent.
>
> The one-eyed man might soon find a stick in his good eye!
>
> PS: That last statement does raise the question of how the blind
> people would find the "one good eye"... hmm: my guess is that they
> would just home in on the sound of the blinks!
>
Jørgen Farum Jensen
"Science has proof without any certainty.
Creationists have certainty without any proof."
— Ashley Montagu
Jeanne Douglas
Dec 11, 2015, 5:37:40 PM12/11/15
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In article <e9ae9f4b-0db1-4310...@googlegroups.com>,
<piggybacking>
Why would we "change our tune"? Sure, we'd have evidence that your god
exists, but why do you think we'd pray to it under any circumstances.
If I were to come in front of your god I'd tell it exactly what I think
of it--that it's a genocidal torturing psychopathic monster and I don't
care what it does to me, anything would be better than worshipping it.
> > >6 In the 2014 Religious Landscape Study, self-identified
> > >atheists were asked how often they share their views on
> > >God and religion with religious people.
> >
> > >7 Virtually no atheists (1%) turn to religion for guidance
> > >on questions of right and wrong, but increasing numbers are
> > >turning to science.
> >
> > Science virtually confirms the existence of God.
> >
> > >http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/11/05/7-facts-about-atheists/
> >
> > the dukester,
> >
> Science does no such thing, not virtually, not any kind of way. Why do you
> lie?
Because he's terrified of his god.
--
JD
I¹ve officially given up trying to find the bottom
of the barrel that is Republican depravity.--Jidyom
Rosario, Addicting Info
Why would we "change our tune"? Sure, we'd have evidence that your god
exists, but why do you think we'd pray to it under any circumstances.
If I were to come in front of your god I'd tell it exactly what I think
of it--that it's a genocidal torturing psychopathic monster and I don't
care what it does to me, anything would be better than worshipping it.
> > >6 In the 2014 Religious Landscape Study, self-identified
> > >atheists were asked how often they share their views on
> > >God and religion with religious people.
> >
> > >7 Virtually no atheists (1%) turn to religion for guidance
> > >on questions of right and wrong, but increasing numbers are
> > >turning to science.
> >
> > Science virtually confirms the existence of God.
> >
> > >http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/11/05/7-facts-about-atheists/
> >
> > the dukester,
> >
> Science does no such thing, not virtually, not any kind of way. Why do you
> lie?
--
JD
I¹ve officially given up trying to find the bottom
of the barrel that is Republican depravity.--Jidyom
Rosario, Addicting Info
Jeanne Douglas
Dec 11, 2015, 5:38:24 PM12/11/15
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In article <0d61298a-8c96-4674...@googlegroups.com>,
Zacky has certain misspellings that he does on purpose; it's one of the
ways we spot his new nyms. Lier is one, athiest is another.
ways we spot his new nyms. Lier is one, athiest is another.
Christopher A. Lee
Dec 11, 2015, 5:50:40 PM12/11/15
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On Fri, 11 Dec 2015 14:37:36 -0800, Jeanne Douglas
<hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>In article <e9ae9f4b-0db1-4310...@googlegroups.com>,
> Cloud Hobbit <youngbl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sunday, November 8, 2015 at 9:17:21 AM UTC-8, duke wrote:
>> > On Fri, 06 Nov 2015 21:37:46 -0600, Mitchell Holman <noe...@att.net>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > >7 facts about atheists
>> > >Nov 5 2015
>> >
>> > >1 The share of Americans who identify as atheists has
>> > >roughly doubled in the past several years.
>> >
>> > Twice as much fuel oil for the flames.
Idiot.
<hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>In article <e9ae9f4b-0db1-4310...@googlegroups.com>,
> Cloud Hobbit <youngbl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sunday, November 8, 2015 at 9:17:21 AM UTC-8, duke wrote:
>> > On Fri, 06 Nov 2015 21:37:46 -0600, Mitchell Holman <noe...@att.net>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > >7 facts about atheists
>> > >Nov 5 2015
>> >
>> > >1 The share of Americans who identify as atheists has
>> > >roughly doubled in the past several years.
>> >
>> > Twice as much fuel oil for the flames.
>> > >2 Atheists, in general, are more likely to be male and
>> > >younger than the overall population; 68% are men, and
>> > >the median age of atheist adults in the U.S. is 34
>> >
>> > >3 Self-identified atheists tend to be aligned with the
>> > >Democratic Party and with political liberalism.
>> >
>> > That's a given.
bigots and other loonies.
>> > >4 Although the literal definition of "atheist" is "a
>> > >person who believes that God does not exist,"
>> >
>> > Wrong. Atheists are those fools that says "there is NO God". Those that
>> > doubt
>> > are agnostics.
paradigm so they have nothing to "not know".
>> > >according
>> > >to the Merriam-Webster dictionary, 8% of those who call
>> > >themselves atheists also say they believe in God or a
>> > >universal spirit.
>> > >5 Unsurprisingly, more than nine-in-ten self-identified
>> > >atheists say religion is not too or not at all important
>> > >in their lives, and nearly all (97%) say they seldom or
>> > >never pray.
>> > They'll change their tune on their judgment day before God, but it will be
>> > too
>> > late for them.
><piggybacking>
>
>Why would we "change our tune"? Sure, we'd have evidence that your god
>exists, but why do you think we'd pray to it under any circumstances.
world beyond the end of his nose.
>If I were to come in front of your god I'd tell it exactly what I think
>of it--that it's a genocidal torturing psychopathic monster and I don't
>care what it does to me, anything would be better than worshipping it.
>> > >6 In the 2014 Religious Landscape Study, self-identified
>> > >atheists were asked how often they share their views on
>> > >God and religion with religious people.
>> > >7 Virtually no atheists (1%) turn to religion for guidance
>> > >on questions of right and wrong, but increasing numbers are
>> > >turning to science.
right and wrong?
Unlike the religious, we have conscience and consideration for others.
>> > Science virtually confirms the existence of God
If it did, science would have gone down that road.
>> > >http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/11/05/7-facts-about-atheists/
>> >
>> > the dukester,
The in-your-face, lying moron who has been trying to annoy atheists by
religiously harassing them since the 1990s.
>> Science does no such thing, not virtually, not any kind of way. Why do you
>> lie?
>Because he's terrified of his god.
Joe Bruno
Dec 11, 2015, 6:02:41 PM12/11/15
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>
> >If I were to come in front of your god I'd tell it exactly what I think
> >of it--that it's a genocidal torturing psychopathic monster and I don't
> >care what it does to me, anything would be better than worshipping it.
>
> >> > >6 In the 2014 Religious Landscape Study, self-identified
> >> > >atheists were asked how often they share their views on
> >> > >God and religion with religious people.
>
> And?
>
> >> > >7 Virtually no atheists (1%) turn to religion for guidance
> >> > >on questions of right and wrong, but increasing numbers are
> >> > >turning to science.
>
> Why the heck should they turn to religion for guidance on questions of
> right and wrong?
>
> Unlike the religious, we have conscience and consideration for others.
HAHAHAHA! A chronic liar has no conscience.
> >If I were to come in front of your god I'd tell it exactly what I think
> >of it--that it's a genocidal torturing psychopathic monster and I don't
> >care what it does to me, anything would be better than worshipping it.
>
> >> > >6 In the 2014 Religious Landscape Study, self-identified
> >> > >atheists were asked how often they share their views on
> >> > >God and religion with religious people.
>
> And?
>
> >> > >7 Virtually no atheists (1%) turn to religion for guidance
> >> > >on questions of right and wrong, but increasing numbers are
> >> > >turning to science.
>
> Why the heck should they turn to religion for guidance on questions of
> right and wrong?
>
> Unlike the religious, we have conscience and consideration for others.
>
> >> > Science virtually confirms the existence of God
>
> Liar.
>
> If it did, science would have gone down that road.
>
> >> > >http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/11/05/7-facts-about-atheists/
> >> >
> >> > the dukester,
>
> The in-your-face, lying moron who has been trying to annoy atheists by
> religiously harassing them since the 1990s.
Show us the posts where he does that.
> >> > Science virtually confirms the existence of God
>
> Liar.
>
> If it did, science would have gone down that road.
>
> >> > >http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/11/05/7-facts-about-atheists/
> >> >
> >> > the dukester,
>
> The in-your-face, lying moron who has been trying to annoy atheists by
> religiously harassing them since the 1990s.
>
> >> Science does no such thing, not virtually, not any kind of way. Why do you
> >> lie?
>
> Because he's Earl Weber.
>
> >Because he's terrified of his god.
WRONG. Most Jews fear God, but Christians generally do not.
> >> Science does no such thing, not virtually, not any kind of way. Why do you
> >> lie?
>
> Because he's Earl Weber.
>
> >Because he's terrified of his god.
>
The God portrayed in the Old Testament is a stern lawmaker and judge.
The God portrayed in the New Testament is very different.
That's why most Orthodox Jews insist the Christian God is not the same as theirs.
Alex W.
Dec 12, 2015, 8:13:56 AM12/12/15
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On 11/12/2015 20:23, rantingri...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, November 7, 2015 at 11:44:55 AM UTC-6, Alex W. wrote:
>> Out of curiosity, what do American atheists do and how would they vote
>> if they find themselves in agreement with secular Republican positions
>> such as fiscal conservatism, small government or even social conservatism?
>
> That's a difficult question to answer for American Atheists due to
> the binary and highly polarized political situation which we face
> these day. It really is "pick you poison" for us. But if i were to
> vote for a conservative (and sadly it seems they're all riddled with
> the theism), i would imagine the best choice would be a theist who is
> not a fundamentalist.
Good luck finding one such. These days, the feedback from
> On Saturday, November 7, 2015 at 11:44:55 AM UTC-6, Alex W. wrote:
>> Out of curiosity, what do American atheists do and how would they vote
>> if they find themselves in agreement with secular Republican positions
>> such as fiscal conservatism, small government or even social conservatism?
>
> That's a difficult question to answer for American Atheists due to
> the binary and highly polarized political situation which we face
> these day. It really is "pick you poison" for us. But if i were to
> vote for a conservative (and sadly it seems they're all riddled with
> the theism), i would imagine the best choice would be a theist who is
> not a fundamentalist.
constituencies and lobby groups is so direct and immediate, even a
non-fundamentalist will be under immense pressure to act and vote "the
right way".
This binary tribalism is becoming hugely disruptive and damaging to
America, IMO. You really do need a third party...
>
> But i'm of the opinion that, there are many conservatives out there
> who are Atheists, but who cannot bear the rejection of family and
> friends, so they continue to wear the "theism mask". They go to mass
> on Sunday mornings, they own a bible (even though they've never read
> it), and they even pray. And they do all these things to prevent
> their families and friends from becoming distresses by the truth. I
> don't need to tell anyone here how irrational these theists can be.
>
> I myself was one of these people.
But another reason may simply be social behaviour. You do what everyone
else does, what is expected of you -- especially in close-knit
communities or small towns.
Nor can we dismiss the practical benefits. Church membership means
social contact, inclusion, community. It means access to childcare,
schooling, aged care, all manner of social services. My brother is
about as much a non-believer as you'd care to meet, and he keeps up his
church membership (Catholic) for exactly that reason -- it got his kids
into the superior kindergarten, it got them into the better schools.
>
> It's been said that: "in the land of the blind, the one eyed man is
> king" -- but the author obviously did not take into consideration the
> ego defenses of brainwashed fools who, when confronted with truths
> that are diametrically opposed to everything they have come to
> believe, can become violent.
>
> The one-eyed man might soon find a stick in his good eye!
>
> PS: That last statement does raise the question of how the blind
> people would find the "one good eye"... hmm: my guess is that they
> would just home in on the sound of the blinks!
>
and the howl of pain will bring all the others....
Which is all too often also the standard of public and political debate,
alas.
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