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Sparky Truesdale

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Jan 7, 2004, 10:30:23 PM1/7/04
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I bought a report from some site on astrocartography, and it told me
what it would be like if I moved to the three cities I'd listed.
Having only lived in one of the cities, I could only evaluate that
one, but it was stunningly accurate. What is relocation astrology? Do
you ask an astrologer to find you a good place to move to, or do you
suggest cities to see how you'd get on there? If you have bad health
where you are presently (like arthritis in a 26 year old) that seems
unexplained, would astrology go so far as to suggest you could improve
your health by moving?

I also went to astro.com and used their astroclick travel to find
cities, and some places said my health would be better, but is your
current location important enough to influence your health for better
or for worse? Could astrology cause arthritis? can moving help?

Ramboi

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Jan 10, 2004, 2:56:57 AM1/10/04
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Sparky Truesdale,
I think moving can change your destiny. I have personal experience with
this and I know a member of my family also has similar experience. It can
make thing better and it can make thing worse.

Last year, my sister in law's father came to visit her for 6 months, then
when he returned to his birth place he died in one month. In 1990, I went
through upheaval battle, after finishing with it, I decided to go to France
to see if I can find happiness there, it turned out that I found the sadness
instead. How come I have found the sadness? I believe I went to the wrong
region, to demonstrate to you, please check my chart:

http://ramboi2.home.comcast.net/natalcomp.gif


If I move back to my birthplace now I will certainly have another problem as
shown on the left chart. It depends on where you are now, and where you are
going to, and how far you will go. Before you move, I would recommend these
steps:

1.) Check the accuracy of your chart. Make sure it matches the events that
occurred in your life, you would want to check the events back to the last
5-10 years to make sure your chart is working.

2.) I used this world clock to modify my natal chart. I figured out the
difference in hours from my original natal chart then I compute the new
location's hour.
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/

Play with your new location's chart to see if there will be any problems or
harmonies there before you make your move. You are dealing with your
health, so you cannot afford to make a mistake just because a program or an
astrologer told you to move. The hour of the new location maybe added or
subtracted depending where your new location is from your natal chart. I
hope this can help you.
Excuse my English, I hope you can understand it.

Ramboi


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Sparky Truesdale

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Jan 10, 2004, 8:11:01 PM1/10/04
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On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 01:56:57 CST, "Ramboi" <@nospa...@attbi.com>
wrote:

>Sparky Truesdale,
>I think moving can change your destiny. I have personal experience with
>this and I know a member of my family also has similar experience. It can
>make thing better and it can make thing worse.
>
>Last year, my sister in law's father came to visit her for 6 months, then
>when he returned to his birth place he died in one month. In 1990, I went
>through upheaval battle, after finishing with it, I decided to go to France
>to see if I can find happiness there, it turned out that I found the sadness
>instead. How come I have found the sadness? I believe I went to the wrong
>region, to demonstrate to you, please check my chart:
>
>http://ramboi2.home.comcast.net/natalcomp.gif
>


I checked your chart, what program are you using? I can see clearly
that you seemed to have accerlerated the bad times by moving.


>
>If I move back to my birthplace now I will certainly have another problem as
>shown on the left chart. It depends on where you are now, and where you are
>going to, and how far you will go. Before you move, I would recommend these
>steps:
>
>1.) Check the accuracy of your chart. Make sure it matches the events that
>occurred in your life, you would want to check the events back to the last
>5-10 years to make sure your chart is working.

I don't know how to compare bad times or good times to see if my chart
is accurate. Can you tell me of a book or website or program to help
me learn?

>
>2.) I used this world clock to modify my natal chart. I figured out the
>difference in hours from my original natal chart then I compute the new
>location's hour.
>http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/
>
>Play with your new location's chart to see if there will be any problems or
>harmonies there before you make your move. You are dealing with your
>health, so you cannot afford to make a mistake just because a program or an
>astrologer told you to move. The hour of the new location maybe added or
>subtracted depending where your new location is from your natal chart. I
>hope this can help you.
>Excuse my English, I hope you can understand it.
>
>Ramboi
>

I am not sure how to compare my new location's chart to my natal
one... I guess this question was too hard for my basic astrological
knowledge. i will continue to study though, and see if I can figure it
out.

Your english is perfect, I would not have know you weren't
american/english. Thank you so much for your response, i really
appreciate it.

Sparky

Ramboi

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Jan 11, 2004, 1:52:37 AM1/11/04
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Hi Sparky,

> I checked your chart, what program are you using? I can see clearly
> that you seemed to have accerlerated the bad times by moving.
> >

Yes, that's correct.

> I don't know how to compare bad times or good times to see if my chart
> is accurate. Can you tell me of a book or website or program to help
> me learn?

Well, I am new too, I learned to read the charts with the help of this group
and I did the readings on the webs on my own. I had interest in astrology
since 1996. At that time predictions were kind of vague for me. The most
recent events of
my life has put heavy weights on my emotional health, I was wondering when
it was supposed to end, finally I was able to see and understand my chart.
I don't think I am qualified to tell you a whole lot, but I will tell you
what I know so far. To identify the bad time is to look at planets in
opposition or in square with another planets. The WOW program will do the
reading for you and all you have to do is to select the graph, then the
program will blink which planet you are looking at.
This is kind of cool! The only complaint I have about this program is, it
draws the graph in Red for harmonious position, so you have to learn to
isolate this case on your own.

I like this WOW program, it really works well for me, I am sure other
programs can be as versatile as this one.

> I don't know how to compare bad times or good times to see if my chart
> is accurate. Can you tell me of a book or website or program to help
> me learn?

Somebody on this forum already suggested the books or the program, you might
want to check the most recent thread in this forum.

If you want to buy WOW program, I think it costs about $69 to register.
Enter your birth date and birth time into this WOW program will locate your
geographical coordination for you. You have to define where you are now
under "option" menu.

How to verify your chart? I think every one must have an event that one
cannot forget, something hurtful or something very joyful, I am sure you can
remember that. Try to remember the approximate time, then compare the
peaks of the graph against
the events that occurred in your life. You will see and understand what I
mean when you tried this in real action. Go backward to the last 5 years
with "Dynamic analysis" option (to zoom into your past), and see if the
graph will match older events, if not then you know something is wrong with
your data or the location it is
looking at.

Here is the link to try out this WOW software for 30 days,
http://www.world-of-wisdom.com/Interprt.exe

Someone on this forum can help you convert your birthdate to a new location
if not I will try to help.

I hope this helps.

Ramboi


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jason_s_hickey

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Jan 12, 2004, 8:40:35 PM1/12/04
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astro.com also has "free charts" called relocation horoscopes. it
converts your natal birth data to the new time zone automatically. i
used to convert the time zones also, but have found the relocation
charts to be simpler.

for health issues, it's my understanding that the 6th house sign,
planets and their aspects are one place to look.

astro.com has a basic inerpretation and explanation under free charts
also -- like 17 pages long! it includes "planet crossing" lats and
longs. those latitudes are supposed to be affected by those planet
pairs (X-planet on Asc/Y-planet on MC). that way, if your sweet spot
is out in the mid-atlantic, the equivalent latitude on terra firma
applies. (as opposed to, say, moving onto a houseboat 500 miles
offcoast from the carolinas!) no doubt, your relocation report
mentions these crossings as well.

i don't know much else. i would like to know if anyone can recommend
a useful book or books on astrocartography and relocation astrology.

thanks

jason

Ramboi

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Jan 13, 2004, 3:19:53 PM1/13/04
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Thanks Jason,
Astro.com is free except that it draws my chart/coordination incorrectly.
Two people already told me that Astro.com is off with their computation.
Putting exactly the same information like I put into the program I
purchased, my program shows my moon is at 16.33*Sat and Astro.com will say
my moon is at 20*Sat. This is 19% difference. This conflicting information
can give me the wrong view of my chart.

It is up to Astro.com to compare themselves with other commercial program.

Ramboi


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Chris Mitchell

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Jan 13, 2004, 9:26:56 PM1/13/04
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On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 14:19:53 CST, "Ramboi" <@nospa...@attbi.com>
wrote:

>Thanks Jason,
>Astro.com is free except that it draws my chart/coordination incorrectly.
>Two people already told me that Astro.com is off with their computation.
>Putting exactly the same information like I put into the program I
>purchased, my program shows my moon is at 16.33*Sat and Astro.com will say
>my moon is at 20*Sat. This is 19% difference. This conflicting information
>can give me the wrong view of my chart.
>
>It is up to Astro.com to compare themselves with other commercial program.
>
>Ramboi
>

I suspect this is down to a misunderstanding somewhere - perhaps to do
with timezones. Astro.com is pretty accurate (who told you they're
not, by the way? They use the same calculation engine as virtually all
commercial software - the Swiss Ephemeris - so I would be very
surprised if their calculation is inaccurate), and is actually more up
to date than many commercial programs (for instance, they knew about
daylight saving time in Baghdad, which other programs forgot about).

You've posted a link to your chart before, but that link has expired.
What's your birth data? I'm sure several of us here can verify it, and
find out why you're getting different results with astro.com

Astro.com is *not* a commercial program, though- it's an online
resource.

--
Chris Mitchell,
Bristol, England.
http://www.zaalberg.freeserve.co.uk
Remove the "nospam" from my e-mail address to reply!

Sparky Truesdale

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Jan 14, 2004, 10:42:36 PM1/14/04
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Hey, thanks for the info and the program, I'm still playing around
with it, but I'm having problems locating dates with things... I don't
remember when things happened so much, I'm off by years sometimes,
ehehe. I'm too young to be this retarded, lol.

On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 00:52:37 CST, "Ramboi" <@nospa...@attbi.com>
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Alois Treindl

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Jan 24, 2004, 4:39:06 PM1/24/04
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Chris Mitchell wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 14:19:53 CST, "Ramboi" <@nospa...@attbi.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>>Thanks Jason,
>>Astro.com is free except that it draws my chart/coordination incorrectly.
>>Two people already told me that Astro.com is off with their computation.
>>Putting exactly the same information like I put into the program I
>>purchased, my program shows my moon is at 16.33*Sat and Astro.com will say
>>my moon is at 20*Sat. This is 19% difference. This conflicting information
>>can give me the wrong view of my chart.
>>
>>It is up to Astro.com to compare themselves with other commercial program.
>>

Let me say it like this:

If anyone **dares to differ** from calculations at www.astro.com, he/she
should go through the trouble himself/herself to explain the difference.

In all likelyhood, astro.com will be right and others will be wrong.

Alois Treindl, PhD (physics), chief software developer at astro.com


PS: Our web service at www.astro.com is mostly free, but the company
running astro,com, Astrodienst AG in Switzerland, is among the top
handful of commcercial astrology companies on this planet (precise
commercial data ar lacking in this "industry").

Chris Mitchell

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Jan 25, 2004, 4:32:16 PM1/25/04
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On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 15:39:06 CST, Alois Treindl <al...@astro.ch>
wrote:

>Chris Mitchell wrote:

No I didn't!!

I asked Ramboi to provide some evidence that astro.com was incorrect,
as I suspect it's user error (probably to do with assumptions about
time zones) rather than a software error.

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