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Ralph Cinque

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Jan 30, 2015, 9:28:34 PM1/30/15
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for bringing the rifle

http://oswaldinthedoorway.blogspot.com/2015/01/ruth-paine.html

DR ZHIVAGO

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Jan 31, 2015, 3:34:07 PM1/31/15
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On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 9:28:34 PM UTC-5, Ralph Cinque wrote:
> for bringing the rifle
>
> http://oswaldinthedoorway.blogspot.com/2015/01/ruth-paine.html

The Religious Society of Friends murdered Kennedy?

cmikes

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Feb 5, 2015, 8:59:26 PM2/5/15
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Yeah, you gotta keep an eye on those Quakers. Do you really believe that
they're pacifists?

Ralph Cinque

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Feb 6, 2015, 6:03:30 PM2/6/15
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Same old thing; when you've got nothing, crack jokes.


mainframetech

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Feb 6, 2015, 10:19:25 PM2/6/15
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A serial Axe murderer could call themselves a Quaker and settle down in
a town, merrily killing off townsfolk for years without being caught.
Use your head.

Chris



bigdog

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Feb 6, 2015, 10:29:25 PM2/6/15
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On Thursday, February 5, 2015 at 8:59:26 PM UTC-5, cmikes wrote:
Ralph will blame just about anybody except the guy who pulled the trigger.


Anthony Marsh

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Feb 6, 2015, 11:42:49 PM2/6/15
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Wasn't Nixon a Quaker?
So do Quakers like to bomb little children?


cmikes

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Feb 7, 2015, 1:41:54 PM2/7/15
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On Friday, February 6, 2015 at 6:03:30 PM UTC-5, Ralph Cinque wrote:
> Same old thing; when you've got nothing, crack jokes.

Oh, I'm sorry Ralph, was your original post supposed to be a joke since
you've got nothing? I'm sorry to say it wasn't very funny.

tom...@cox.net

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Feb 7, 2015, 1:45:11 PM2/7/15
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Ralph Cinque <buda...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Same old thing; when you've got nothing, crack jokes.
===========================================================================
== AS A ATTER OF FACT, SHE RECEIVED A CALL FOR OSWALD TO HAVE A BETTER
PAYI. SHE ELECTED O TELL OSWALD ABOUT IT ! ! !
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tom...@cox.net

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Feb 7, 2015, 5:03:40 PM2/7/15
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===========================================================================
===== BIGDOG ALSO STILL BELIEVES THAT WATERGATE WAS A THIRD RATE BURGLARY !
! !

David Von Pein

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Feb 7, 2015, 5:13:20 PM2/7/15
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Ruth Paine, Lee Oswald, And More Claptrap By CTers....

http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/04/dvp-vs-dieugenio-part-87.html

BOZ

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Feb 7, 2015, 5:15:21 PM2/7/15
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Was Nixon's palmprint on Oswald's Carcano?

stevemg...@yahoo.com

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Feb 7, 2015, 11:57:21 PM2/7/15
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As you know, it's not just Ralph.

We've gone over the list before: Quaker housewives with small children,
bus drivers, cab drivers, steam fitters, waitresses, used car salesmen,
landladies, warehouse workers, shoe clerks.....

All of these people are suspect or of questionable character, possibly
engaged in the conspiracy; their behavior is in doubt.

But Lee Harvey Oswald? Nothing he did indicates he was involved in any way
in the assassination. He was Mr. Innocent, poor Lee, just trying to make a
living.

And they wonder why their views are called kookie?

Alex Foyle

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Feb 8, 2015, 12:17:15 AM2/8/15
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On Saturday, February 7, 2015 at 12:03:30 AM UTC+1, Ralph Cinque wrote:

> Same old thing; when you've got nothing, crack jokes.

But, Ralph, that's basically all you do. Each one of your theories is
nothing but one bad joke after the other with no significant substance at
all.

stevemg...@yahoo.com

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Feb 8, 2015, 3:36:04 PM2/8/15
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A self-avowed Quaker pacifist, a house wive with liberal political views
who supported JFK and with two small children living with another woman
with two small children is a major cog in this assassination?

There is no absurdity that some in the conspiracy crowd will not
entertain. None.

It's one of the ironies of this event. JFK was the target of the paranoid
element in America when he was alive; and after his death another paranoid
element rides to his rescue.

History does repeat itself, the second time as indeed a farce.

cmikes

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Feb 8, 2015, 6:36:30 PM2/8/15
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On Friday, February 6, 2015 at 11:42:49 PM UTC-5, Anthony Marsh wrote:
No, which is why that Nixon ended the Kennedy/Johnson Vietnam War.

tom...@cox.net

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Feb 8, 2015, 6:52:11 PM2/8/15
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DPD FOUND NO PRINTS ON FRIDAY
FBI FOUND NO PRINTS ON SATURDAY
DETECTIVES TOOK PRINTS OFF OF OSWALD'S DEAD BODY SUNDY NIGHT ON MONDAY
DPD FOUND OSWALD'S PALM PINT ! ! OH LUCY! YOU GOT SOME "SPLAININ TO DO ! !
! CASE DISMISSED ! ! !
===========================================================================
=====
> Was Nixon's palmprint on Oswald's Carcano?

tom...@cox.net

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Feb 8, 2015, 6:55:48 PM2/8/15
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===========================================================================
= RUTH GOT A CALL FOR OSWALD TO GET A HIGHER PAYING JOB BEDFORE HE WENT TO
THE
TSBD; RUTH NEGECTED TO TELL OSWALD ABOUT THAT JOB ! ! !
YOU PEOPLE MAKE DECISIONS ON ONLY "PARTIAL" IRMATION READ THE
OFFICIAEVIDENCE/TESTIMONY IN THE 26 VOLUMES ! !
=========================================================================

tom...@cox.net

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Feb 8, 2015, 6:56:29 PM2/8/15
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===========================================================================
===== WELL ALEX;
HOW MUCH "SUBSTANCE" DO YOU SEE IN "PRESUMABLY OF ENTRNCE, PRESUMABLY OF
EXIT " ! ! ! THAT'S WHAT THE WARREN COMMISSION SAID WHEN TALING ABOUT THE
SBT ! ! !
===========================================================================
=====

Ralph Cinque

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Feb 9, 2015, 12:45:00 AM2/9/15
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Au Contrate. I work hard to provide substance.

http://oswaldinthedoorway.blogspot.com/2015/02/lets-try-to-establish-time-coordinates.html

BOZ

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Feb 9, 2015, 1:32:39 PM2/9/15
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Photograph of a fingerprint card identifying Lee Harvey Oswald. Oswald's
hand print is shown on the card. The fingerprint card was printed November
22, 1963.

http://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth49522/

Anthony Marsh

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Feb 9, 2015, 1:32:57 PM2/9/15
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Study history. Nixon intensified the Vietnam War.
It was Ford who pulled the US troops out.
Why do you rename it to the Kennedy/Johnson Vietnam War?
Because you want to blame the Democrats.
Why not call it the FDR/Truman/Eisenhower/Kennedy/Johnson/Nixon/Ford
Vietnam War?


BOZ

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Feb 9, 2015, 1:39:27 PM2/9/15
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Are you implying that Ruth Paine was part of the imaginary conspiracy?

Anthony Marsh

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Feb 9, 2015, 5:15:31 PM2/9/15
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All your messages are just one attack after another with no relation to
the JFK assassination.


Mark Florio

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Feb 9, 2015, 5:19:39 PM2/9/15
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A VERY thoughtful and eloquent post. Mark Florio.

tom...@cox.net

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Feb 9, 2015, 5:52:13 PM2/9/15
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===========================================================================
=====YOU SHOULD READ MORE CMIKES ! ! !

WE WENT INTO VEITNAM IN 1964 WHEN EISENHOWER SENT AMERICAN ADVISORS OVER
THERE ! ! !
===========================================================================

Anthony Marsh

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Feb 9, 2015, 5:59:09 PM2/9/15
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No one said that. He was a defector who offered to give secrets to the
enemy. He tried to assassinate Walker. He killed Tippit. One crime does
not prove another.

Alex Foyle

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Feb 9, 2015, 6:03:06 PM2/9/15
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On Monday, February 9, 2015 at 12:56:29 AM UTC+1, tom...@cox.net wrote:

> ===========================================================================
> ===== WELL ALEX;
> HOW MUCH "SUBSTANCE" DO YOU SEE IN "PRESUMABLY OF ENTRNCE, PRESUMABLY OF
> EXIT " ! ! ! THAT'S WHAT THE WARREN COMMISSION SAID WHEN TALING ABOUT THE
> SBT ! ! !
> ===========================================================================

Well, Tom, I was referring to Ralph's Ruth Paine nonsense and I have
troubles deciphering your irrelevant comment above.

Alex Foyle

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Feb 9, 2015, 6:03:24 PM2/9/15
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On Monday, February 9, 2015 at 6:45:00 AM UTC+1, Ralph Cinque wrote:
> Au Contrate. I work hard to provide substance.
>
> http://oswaldinthedoorway.blogspot.com/2015/02/lets-try-to-establish-time-coordinates.html

Au Contrate? Without clicking your link I know for a fact that no
substance can be found there.

BOZ

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Feb 9, 2015, 9:25:16 PM2/9/15
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On Monday, February 9, 2015 at 12:45:00 AM UTC-5, Ralph Cinque wrote:
> Au Contrate. I work hard to provide substance.
>
> http://oswaldinthedoorway.blogspot.com/2015/02/lets-try-to-establish-time-coordinates.html

SUBSTANCE ABUSE!!!!!

bigdog

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Feb 9, 2015, 9:48:08 PM2/9/15
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On Saturday, February 7, 2015 at 5:03:40 PM UTC-5, tom...@cox.net wrote:
> bigdog <jecorb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On Thursday, February 5, 2015 at 8:59:26 PM UTC-5, cmikes wrote:
> > > On Saturday, January 31, 2015 at 3:34:07 PM UTC-5, BOZ wrote:
> > > > On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 9:28:34 PM UTC-5, Ralph Cinque wrote:
> > > > > for bringing the rifle
> > > > >
> > > > > http://oswaldinthedoorway.blogspot.com/2015/01/ruth-paine.html
> > > >
> > > > The Religious Society of Friends murdered Kennedy?
> > >
> > > Yeah, you gotta keep an eye on those Quakers. Do you really believe
> > > that they're pacifists?
> >
> > Ralph will blame just about anybody except the guy who pulled the
> > trigger.
> ===========================================================================
> ===== BIGDOG ALSO STILL BELIEVES THAT WATERGATE WAS A THIRD RATE BURGLARY !
> ! !

So, Tom, now you are stealing a page from Marsh's book by claiming people
believe things they haven't even remotely suggested. Does he make you pay
royalties when you do that?

bigdog

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Feb 9, 2015, 9:49:22 PM2/9/15
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On Sunday, February 8, 2015 at 6:52:11 PM UTC-5, tom...@cox.net wrote:
> BOZ <john....@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Friday, February 6, 2015 at 11:42:49 PM UTC-5, Anthony Marsh wrote:
> > > On 2/5/2015 8:59 PM, cmikes wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, January 31, 2015 at 3:34:07 PM UTC-5, BOZ wrote:
> > > >> On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 9:28:34 PM UTC-5, Ralph Cinque wrote:
> > > >>> for bringing the rifle
> > > >>>
> > > >>> http://oswaldinthedoorway.blogspot.com/2015/01/ruth-paine.html
> > > >>
> > > >> The Religious Society of Friends murdered Kennedy?
> > > >
> > > > Yeah, you gotta keep an eye on those Quakers. Do you really believe
> > > > that they're pacifists?
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Wasn't Nixon a Quaker?
> > > So do Quakers like to bomb little children?
> >
> DPD FOUND NO PRINTS ON FRIDAY

Lt. Day found the palm print the on Friday and lifted it from the rifle.
That's in your official records, Tom. Maybe you need to brush up on
them.

> FBI FOUND NO PRINTS ON SATURDAY
> DETECTIVES TOOK PRINTS OFF OF OSWALD'S DEAD BODY SUNDY NIGHT ON MONDAY
> DPD FOUND OSWALD'S PALM PINT ! ! OH LUCY! YOU GOT SOME "SPLAININ TO DO ! !
> ! CASE DISMISSED ! ! !
> ===========================================================================

Day found the palm print on the rifle before surrendering it to the FBI.
The lifted print bore the same irregularities that were on the underside
of the barrel confirming they came from Oswald's rifle. Another lame
attempt to make something out of nothing. But when you've bean dealt
nothing for 51 years, you learn to make do with what you don't have.

Anthony Marsh

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Feb 9, 2015, 9:54:50 PM2/9/15
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Were Nixon's fingerprints on the Pumpkin papers?
Oswald's prints were on the Carcano because he owned the Carcano.
I bet we could find YOUR fingerprints on your phone.


BOZ

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Feb 11, 2015, 10:19:09 AM2/11/15
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Au contraire? Au Contrate? Maybe McCroskey will teach you French.

tom...@cox.net

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Feb 11, 2015, 1:06:36 PM2/11/15
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===========================================================================
====== ABSOLUTELY CORRECT BECAUSE THAT WHOLE WEBSITE IS TAKEN FROM YOUR
WARREN COMMISSION'S 26 VOLUMES ! ! !
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=======

tom...@cox.net

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OSWALD WAS A FALSE DEFECTER
OSWALD DID NOT SHOOT AT WALKER
OSWALD DID NOT KILL TIPPIT
OSWALD DID NOT KILL JFK

ALL OF WHICH ARE POROVER IN THE WARREN COMMISSION'S 26 VOLUMES ! ! !
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On 2/8/2015 6:48 PM, stevemg...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Friday, February 6, 2015 at 10:03:29 PM UTC-6, BT George wrote:
>> On Friday, February 6, 2015 at 10:13:09 AM UTC-6, John McAdams wrote:
>>> http://jfkfacts.org/assassination/news/slawson-oswald-had-accessories-not-co-conspirators/
>>>
>>> .John
>>> -----------------------
>>> http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm
>>
>> The link to the Politico article where Slawson's newfound suspicions about
>> suppression of information by the CIA and Bobby Kennedy were laid out, was
>> rather a facinating. I still don't think anything that has come to light
>> has laid out serious hints of---still less solid proof---of an actual
>> conspiracy or of any "accessories before or after-the-fact" in the legal
>> sense of those terms.
>>
>> The odds anyone in Mexico City would induce Oswald to go for Kennedy, and
>> then luckily and unexpectedly have JFK present himself about a month later
>> as an open target passing right by the self-same Oswald's work place, have
>> got to be as great or greater than winning the Mega-Millions lotto.
>> However, there is *ample* evidence that some serious tail-covering went on
>> among the FBI and CIA regarding any possible evidence they might have
>> shown they had, or should have had prior knowledge, of the danger Oswald
>> presented. (And of course anything that might have exposed the plots by
>> JFK's Administration to off Castro.)
>>
>> BT George
>
> The big piece of evidence that raises these questions is the classified
> memo that Hoover sent to the WC mentioning the FBI source (Jack Childs)
> who said that Castro told him (Childs) that Oswald made threats against
> JFK.
>
> That memo never reached the WC and the evidence is the CIA intercepted it.
>
> Why?
>
> That claim by Castro (or Childs making it up) may or may not be true. None
> of the people in the Cuban Embassy said Oswald made such statements.
>


Ask Jean if it's true. Don't wait for an honest answer.
Maybe some day listen to the tape yourself.


tom...@cox.net

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Feb 11, 2015, 5:25:29 PM2/11/15
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===========================================================================
===== WHAT REASON CAN YOU OFFER FOR RUTH NOT TELLING OSWALD ABOUT THE
HIGHER PAYING JOB OFFER ? ? ? ?
===========================================================================

stevemg...@yahoo.com

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Feb 12, 2015, 11:36:11 AM2/12/15
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Excuse me, Mr. Marsh, there's an entire group of "Oswald was innocent"
followers who make the claim that he was no involved in any of those
matters.

Numerous posters here, for example, say Oswald didn't shoot Tippit and
that the Walker attempt either was not done by Oswald or was a "fake"
attempt to create a "legend" for him as a radical leftist.




stevemg...@yahoo.com

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Feb 12, 2015, 11:40:33 AM2/12/15
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The point is that Oswald, according to the interrogators, denied owning
that rifle.

The rifle that evidence shows was used to kill JFK.

Why? Because he tried to shoot Walker?

He could deny that too.




BOZ

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Feb 12, 2015, 11:41:39 AM2/12/15
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No, the fingerprints of Alger Hiss were on the Pumpkin papers and Oswald
said he didn't own a Carcano. Oswald lied about this. Game over.
Thanks for playing.

BOZ

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Feb 12, 2015, 6:52:51 PM2/12/15
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OSWALD WAS A FALSE DEFECTER (FALSE! FAKE DEFECTORS should not slit their
wrists.

OSWALD DID NOT SHOOT AT WALKER(Incorrect! MARINA SAID HE DID!)

OSWALD DID NOT KILL TIPPIT (WRONG!HELEN MARKHAM identified Oswald!)

OSWALD DID NOT KILL JFK (UNTRUE!WHO ARE YOU KIDDING? BRENNAN SAW HIM
SHOOTING)


BOZ

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Feb 12, 2015, 7:09:20 PM2/12/15
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CIA AGENT IS A HIGHER PAYING JOB. IS IT NOT? TOM, WHY DON'T TELL
EVERYONEWHO THE KILLER WAS? ANTON BATEY ASKED YOU WHO WAS BEHIND THE
ASSASSINATION AND YOU

ANSWERED, "I HAVE NO IDEA." You should have some idea because you read
more about this case than 99.9 percent of the population of the world.
You will never admit that you are wrong. You are a person who is fanatical
and uncompromising in pursuit of your Oswald is innocent campaign.

BOZ

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Feb 12, 2015, 7:17:15 PM2/12/15
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On Wednesday, February 11, 2015 at 5:25:29 PM UTC-5, tom...@cox.net wrote:
RUTH PAINE TOLD ME THAT SHE TRIED TO TEACH OSWALD TO DRIVE. I LIKE HER BUT
SHE IS TOO TALL FOR ME.

BOZ

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Feb 12, 2015, 7:17:40 PM2/12/15
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On Wednesday, February 11, 2015 at 3:25:43 PM UTC-5, tom...@cox.net wrote:
ROY TRULY HIRED OSWALD. RUTH PAINE DID NOT HIRE HIM.

cmikes

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Feb 12, 2015, 7:26:22 PM2/12/15
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On Wednesday, February 11, 2015 at 5:25:29 PM UTC-5, tom...@cox.net wrote:
This is purely speculation on my part, I want to make that clear from the
start.

I believe that Ruth Paine realized what a scumbag Oswald was and was
trying to get Marina to leave him. She certainly knew how Oswald treated
her and that he had beat Marina in the past. She may have thought that if
Oswald had a higher paying job, Marina may have moved back in with him and
taken more abuse. Again, just my belief based on hers and others
statements that they were trying to help Marina and that none of them
(with the exception of George de Mohrenschildt) particularity liked
Oswald.

But even so, granting your point for the sake of argument, Oswald got his
job at the TSBD well before the motorcade route was decided. What, did
"they" have physics on the payroll or what?

Anthony Marsh

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Feb 13, 2015, 1:46:09 PM2/13/15
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And I don't care about them. They are kooks.


tom...@cox.net

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Feb 13, 2015, 1:53:48 PM2/13/15
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deagle;' you nor anyone else knows what Oswald said because there was no
stenographer or tape recorder although the dallas police records state
there were several stenographers on the payroll and a "recording room" just
across the hall from fritz's office ! ! !
===========================================================================

BOZ

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Feb 14, 2015, 11:24:03 AM2/14/15
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WE know that Oswald said that the backyard photos were fake. Where did you
get the idea that the backyard photos were fake? That story originated
with Oswald.

tom...@cox.net

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Feb 15, 2015, 11:23:51 PM2/15/15
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==== YOU NEGLECTED TO MENTION THAT THEY WERE ALSO DEEMED PHONY BY SEVERAL
PEOPLE WHO STUDIED THEM ! ! !
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=====

BOZ

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Feb 16, 2015, 8:54:39 PM2/16/15
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You said that Oswald sold his rifle. The rifle in the picture was
Oswald's. It's not my opinion. It is an historical fact. Why can't you
admit it?

John Paul Jones

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Mar 9, 2015, 2:33:48 PM3/9/15
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On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 6:28:34 PM UTC-8, Ralph Cinque wrote:
> for bringing the rifle
>
> http://oswaldinthedoorway.blogspot.com/2015/01/ruth-paine.html

IT MAY BE WHAT THE CIA HAS BEEN HIDING ALL THESE YEARS IS SIMPLY THEIR
INCOMPETENCE. THEY PROBABLY KNEW ALL ABOUT OSWALD BUT FAILED TO DO THEIR
JOB. THEY PROBABLY KNEW ABOUT THE THREAT HE MADE ON KENNEDY'S LIFE IN
MEXICO CITY BUT FAILED TO ACT ON IT. THE REMAINING DOCS BEING CONCEALED
MAY JUST SHOW INCOMPETENCE.


Ralph Cinque

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Mar 9, 2015, 9:10:31 PM3/9/15
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There is incompetence going on alright because Oswald never went to Mexico
City.


Anthony Marsh

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Mar 9, 2015, 9:12:34 PM3/9/15
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One theory which was popular in France was that the CIA had learned of
the assassination plot and kept it to iself, hoping that it would be
successful and rid them of JFK.
The CIA had bugged the Cuban Consulate and recorded Oswald threatening
to kill the President.
The DGI told Castro, but obviously Castro did not share that with anyone.


mainframetech

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Mar 9, 2015, 9:13:04 PM3/9/15
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Don't be ridiculous! Lying about owning a rifle when you know you're
being set up has nothing to do with being guilty of shooting that rifle at
someone.

Chris

mainframetech

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Mar 9, 2015, 9:13:45 PM3/9/15
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I don't know about Ruth Paine being involved in setting Oswald up, but I
do know that if an foreign or CIA or other agent wanted to have a good
cover, being a Quaker might be one. Look how everyone immediately says
(in effect) a Quaker? Couldn't possibly be an agent or conspirator...not
a Quaker!

Chris

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