A Grassy Knoll Shot?

[claviger]

To have a shot from the Grassy Knoll Fence you must have
all 4 things below:

1. A Fence

2. A Person

3. A Rifle

4. A Shot

Only 1 out of 4 requirements were met: There was a Wooden Fence.

This theory dies from lack of a second, third, or fourth.

Try the Dal-Tex Building instead.

[19e...@mail.com]

Shots came from the overpass. Many witnesses said so. The chief of police
immediately radioed to get a man up there to see what happened. The
Wiegman film shows some smoke there. Officer Haygood ran up there and saw
a railroad detective. The Cabluck photo shows that the railroad detective
had a rifle, even if Haygood did not say so. "Something" in Bobby Hargis's
"mind" told him that the shots might have been coming from there, even if
he said he had "no idea in the world" where the shots came from. Officer
Edgar L. Smith pointed to the overpass, as can be seen in a cutout from
the Darnell film, even if he said that he had "no earthly idea" of where
the shots came from. And the Zapruder film shows a shot having gone
through the windshield and John Conally's wrist in frame 322, glass dust
and wrist exit material streams being visible. But, that's not enough to
raise a Lone Nutter's eyebrow, because Lone Nutters work for JFK's
murderers, and they don't care what happened.

[Anthony Marsh]

So when you look at the Moorman photo you can't see the man's head above
thr top of the fence?

http://www.the-puzzle-palace.com/moor406.jpg

[bigdog]

On Tuesday, October 2, 2018 at 3:54:13 PM UTC-4, claviger wrote:

The funny thing is souvenir hunters have been taking slats out of that
fence for years under the mistaken belief they are taking a piece of
history. The truth is that the slats have been replaced numerous times and
none of the original wood has been there for many years.

[bigdog]

Why would things which you imagine raise an eyebrow with LNs? We do get a
good chuckle from them.

[Anthony Marsh]

On 10/4/2018 1:03 AM, 19e...@mail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 2, 2018 at 3:54:13 PM UTC-4, claviger wrote:
>> To have a shot from the Grassy Knoll Fence you must have
>> all 4 things below:
>>
>> 1. A Fence
>>
>> 2. A Person
>>
>> 3. A Rifle
>>
>> 4. A Shot
>>
>> Only 1 out of 4 requirements were met: There was a Wooden Fence.
>>
>> This theory dies from lack of a second, third, or fourth.
>>
>> Try the Dal-Tex Building instead.
>
> Shots came from the overpass. Many witnesses said so. The chief of police

No, that is false.

> immediately radioed to get a man up there to see what happened. The
> Wiegman film shows some smoke there. Officer Haygood ran up there and saw

No. Something happened in that AREA. Not necessarily on the overpass.
It was being guarded by 2 policeman. Unless you think they were the
shooters.

> a railroad detective. The Cabluck photo shows that the railroad detective
> had a rifle, even if Haygood did not say so. "Something" in Bobby Hargis's

Yes, that is why some people saw a rifle. AFTER the shooting, not DURING
the shooting.

> "mind" told him that the shots might have been coming from there, even if
> he said he had "no idea in the world" where the shots came from. Officer
> Edgar L. Smith pointed to the overpass, as can be seen in a cutout from
> the Darnell film, even if he said that he had "no earthly idea" of where
> the shots came from. And the Zapruder film shows a shot having gone
> through the windshield and John Conally's wrist in frame 322, glass dust

No bullet went through the windshield. It was only a crack.
Why do kooks keep saying that when we've discussed it thousands of times?

> and wrist exit material streams being visible. But, that's not enough to
> raise a Lone Nutter's eyebrow, because Lone Nutters work for JFK's
> murderers, and they don't care what happened.
>

Please SHOW me the wrist fragments stream.

[claviger]

No, or the rifle, or his elbow up in the firing position. Plus there is
light shining through the "head". What you're seeing in the trunk of the
Burford Holly trees along the fence.

[19e...@mail.com]

Don't be such a baby. Frame 322 of the Zapruder film. Wear your glasses
this time.

[claviger]

Look down the tree line in this photo and notice the head is still there
looking over the fence. Guess he was waiting for the photographers
to notice so he could have his picture taken too.
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/arnold/stoughtonlg.jpg

[Anthony Marsh]

On 10/5/2018 11:19 AM, claviger wrote:
> On Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 11:08:04 AM UTC-5, Anthony Marsh wrote:
>> On 10/2/2018 3:54 PM, claviger wrote:
>>>
>>> To have a shot from the Grassy Knoll Fence you must have
>>> all 4 things below:
>>> 1. A Fence
>>> 2. A Person
>>> 3. A Rifle
>>> 4. A Shot
>>> Only 1 out of 4 requirements were met: There was a Wooden Fence.
>>> This theory dies from lack of a second, third, or fourth.
>>> Try the Dal-Tex Building instead.
>>
>> So when you look at the Moorman photo you can't see the man's head above
>> thr top of the fence?
>> http://www.the-puzzle-palace.com/moor406.jpg
>
> No, or the rifle, or his elbow up in the firing position. Plus there is

I didn't say rifle. Sam Holland thought he could see the rifle in that
picture. You can't even admit that it is a person's head above the top
of the fence. So tell me what you think it was. There was nothing there
before or after the shooting. Do you think it was bush that walked in to
watch the motorcade and then walked out after?

> light shining through the "head". What you're seeing in the trunk of the
> Burford Holly trees along the fence.
>
>

There is no light shining through the head. Show me your bush in a photo
taken before or after the shooting. YOU have nothing.

[Anthony Marsh]

Bullshit. You have nothing.
I asked you to SHOW ME. Not blabber.
SHOW ME what you call wrist fragments. How many?
Are you talking about bone or lead from a bullet?

https://www.assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z322.jpg
Nothing there.


I did a Google search on "Zapruder frame 322 wrist fragment stream"


No results found for "zapruder frame 322 wrist fragment stream".

and nothing came up. You just pulled this out of your ass.
Hope is didn't hurt too much!

[claviger]

On Saturday, October 6, 2018 at 1:19:38 PM UTC-5, Anthony Marsh wrote:
> On 10/5/2018 11:19 AM, claviger wrote:
> > On Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 11:08:04 AM UTC-5, Anthony Marsh wrote:
> >> On 10/2/2018 3:54 PM, claviger wrote:
> >>>
> >>> To have a shot from the Grassy Knoll Fence you must have
> >>> all 4 things below:
> >>> 1. A Fence
> >>> 2. A Person
> >>> 3. A Rifle
> >>> 4. A Shot
> >>> Only 1 out of 4 requirements were met: There was a Wooden Fence.
> >>> This theory dies from lack of a second, third, or fourth.
> >>> Try the Dal-Tex Building instead.
> >> So when you look at the Moorman photo you can't see the man's head above
> >> thr top of the fence?
> >> http://www.the-puzzle-palace.com/moor406.jpg
> > No, or the rifle, or his elbow up in the firing position. Plus there is
> I didn't say rifle. Sam Holland thought he could see the rifle in that
> picture.

Cite please.

> You can't even admit that it is a person's head above the top of
> the fence. So tell me what you think it was.

Burford Holly trees were planted along the fence as a beautification
project. Your imagination has convinced you a clump of leaves or a
twisted trunk of a Burford Holly tree it is a sniper. So where is the
rifle?

> There was nothing there before or after the shooting.

Prove it.

> Do you think it was bush that walked in to watch the motorcade
> and then walked out after?

No it was still there after the shooting. Here it is again:
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/arnold/stoughtonlg.jpg

> > light shining through the "head". What you're seeing in the trunk of the
> > Burford Holly trees along the fence.
> There is no light shining through the head. Show me your bush in a photo
> taken before or after the shooting. YOU have nothing.

Mary Moorman
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Moorman
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ae/Moorman_photo_of_JFK_assassination.jpg

More photos showing how various clumps of leaves in the Burford Holly
shrubs could be mistaken for a head above the fence in black and white
photos.

https://spartacus-educational.com/JFKgrassyN.jpg

https://www.flickr.com/photos/horwath/6386347237

https://lotgk.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/grassyknoll04.jpg

https://lotgk.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/grassyknoll06.jpg

https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/01/33/ff/b7/the-grassy-knoll.jpg

https://defendingthetruth.com/proxy.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Fs60.radikal.ru%2Fi168%2F1006%2F9f%2F983432a3ee66.jpg&hash=e4f4af46bed5bb96b65f27f963e5a08f

[claviger]

Get a magnifying glass and study the photo below. It is quite obvious
there is light between side-by-side tree trunks you mistakenly believe to
be the head of a sniper behind the fence. If it was actually a photo of
the sniper where is the rifle?

https://coolinterestingstuff.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/image26-e1424206470665.jpg

[19e...@mail.com]

You know nothing about photographic analysis. And as lovable as John
Costella and his pincushion-corrected frames may be, you're still better
off with MPI versions to see fine details. And you have to zoom and adjust
the contrast and brightness. Really! Do I have to hold your hand and wipe
your nose? You're a big boy now, Tony. It's time you started to act your
age.

[Anthony Marsh]

I have the photographic evidence. I proved hat the Zapruder film is
authentic. You must be an alterationist.

> Costella and his pincushion-corrected frames may be, you're still better
> off with MPI versions to see fine details. And you have to zoom and adjust

I have the MPI video. That is what I studied. And I have slides. You can't
see fragments in mid air. Too small and too fast. You would probably make
the same claim about another frame. All you seeing are streaks of LIGHT.
You can't answer my questions because you know you are wrong.

> the contrast and brightness. Really! Do I have to hold your hand and wipe
> your nose? You're a big boy now, Tony. It's time you started to act your
> age.
>

Insults are no substitute for doing actual research.

[Anthony Marsh]

On 10/7/2018 5:31 PM, claviger wrote:
> On Saturday, October 6, 2018 at 1:19:38 PM UTC-5, Anthony Marsh wrote:
>> On 10/5/2018 11:19 AM, claviger wrote:
>>> On Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 11:08:04 AM UTC-5, Anthony Marsh wrote:
>>>> On 10/2/2018 3:54 PM, claviger wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> To have a shot from the Grassy Knoll Fence you must have
>>>>> all 4 things below:
>>>>> 1. A Fence
>>>>> 2. A Person
>>>>> 3. A Rifle
>>>>> 4. A Shot
>>>>> Only 1 out of 4 requirements were met: There was a Wooden Fence.
>>>>> This theory dies from lack of a second, third, or fourth.
>>>>> Try the Dal-Tex Building instead.
>>>> So when you look at the Moorman photo you can't see the man's head above
>>>> thr top of the fence?
>>>> http://www.the-puzzle-palace.com/moor406.jpg
>>> No, or the rifle, or his elbow up in the firing position. Plus there is
>> I didn't say rifle. Sam Holland thought he could see the rifle in that
>> picture.
>
> Cite please.
>

Six Seconds in Dallas, page 129. Where have you been all these years?
I've only posted it a few dozen times. Next year you'll be back askng
the questions again.

>> You can't even admit that it is a person's head above the top of
>> the fence. So tell me what you think it was.
>
> Burford Holly trees were planted along the fence as a beautification
> project. Your imagination has convinced you a clump of leaves or a
> twisted trunk of a Burford Holly tree it is a sniper. So where is the
> rifle?
>

So you think a human head can look like leaves?

>> There was nothing there before or after the shooting.
>
> Prove it.
>

I have many times and others have too. Talk to Tink.

>> Do you think it was bush that walked in to watch the motorcade
>> and then walked out after?
>
> No it was still there after the shooting. Here it is again:
> http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/arnold/stoughtonlg.jpg
>

Nonsense. You can't even circle what you are talking about. You may be
looking in the wrong place. Show me another photo taken from the same
angle and circle what you call a bush.

>>> light shining through the "head". What you're seeing in the trunk of the
>>> Burford Holly trees along the fence.
>> There is no light shining through the head. Show me your bush in a photo
>> taken before or after the shooting. YOU have nothing.
>
> Mary Moorman
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Moorman
> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ae/Moorman_photo_of_JFK_assassination.jpg
>
> More photos showing how various clumps of leaves in the Burford Holly
> shrubs could be mistaken for a head above the fence in black and white
> photos.
>

No, a head does not look like leaves.

> https://spartacus-educational.com/JFKgrassyN.jpg
>

Those are HUGE and separate and well above the fence.

> https://www.flickr.com/photos/horwath/6386347237
>
> https://lotgk.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/grassyknoll04.jpg
>

That is from 2008, not during the assassination. And yes you can see a
man's head above the top of the fence so you get an head of what it
would look like. Who is that man? What angle was it taken from?
Irrelevant. That's all you ever do, is upload irrelevant things.

> https://lotgk.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/grassyknoll06.jpg
>
> https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/01/33/ff/b7/the-grassy-knoll.jpg
>
> https://defendingthetruth.com/proxy.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Fs60.radikal.ru%2Fi168%2F1006%2F9f%2F983432a3ee66.jpg&hash=e4f4af46bed5bb96b65f27f963e5a08f
>
>

More of your typical scattershot posting. Totally irrelevant photos.

[19e...@mail.com]

You know nothing about research.

[19e...@mail.com]

The guy who still believes that the shots were recorded on an open mic,
proved the Zapruder film authentic. You really are a master of irony!

[claviger]

Moorman photo colorized (JFK)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkO-1xEx-gU

Notice below we can see light down the middle of what you call a head.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ae/Moorman_photo_of_JFK_assassination.jpg

Look at the photo again. If that is a head then it is huge, twice as big as
the heads compared to the 3 men on the steps. It's not a head.
http://kennedy-photos.blogspot.com/2012/06/kennedy-gallery-038.html

[claviger]

On Tuesday, October 9, 2018 at 11:00:41 AM UTC-5, Anthony Marsh wrote:
> On 10/7/2018 5:31 PM, claviger wrote:
>
> > Cite please.
> Six Seconds in Dallas, page 129. Where have you been all these years?
> I've only posted it a few dozen times. Next year you'll be back askng
> the questions again.

That is not where he described it in his original statement. I suspect
he fell under the influence of Mark Lane.

> >> You can't even admit that it is a person's head above the top of
> >> the fence. So tell me what you think it was.
> > Burford Holly trees were planted along the fence as a beautification
> > project. Your imagination has convinced you a clump of leaves or a
> > twisted trunk of a Burford Holly tree it is a sniper. So where is the
> > rifle?
> So you think a human head can look like leaves?

In your case vice versa.

> >> There was nothing there before or after the shooting.
> > Prove it.
> I have many times and others have too. Talk to Tink.

Tink was not in the 14' tower behind the fence on the day
of the parade. Lee Bowers was.

> >> Do you think it was bush that walked in to watch the motorcade
> >> and then walked out after?
> > No it was still there after the shooting. Here it is again:
> > http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/arnold/stoughtonlg.jpg
> Nonsense. You can't even circle what you are talking about. You may be
> looking in the wrong place. Show me another photo taken from the same
> angle and circle what you call a bush.

The enhanced photos of the Moorman photo destroys your theory.

> >>> light shining through the "head". What you're seeing in the trunk of the
> >>> Burford Holly trees along the fence.
> >> There is no light shining through the head. Show me your bush in a photo
> >> taken before or after the shooting. YOU have nothing.
> > Mary Moorman
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Moorman
> > https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ae/Moorman_photo_of_JFK_assassination.jpg
> > More photos showing how various clumps of leaves in the Burford Holly
> > shrubs could be mistaken for a head above the fence in black and white
> > photos.
> No, a head does not look like leaves.

Not a human head. Must be an alien from outer space.

[Anthony Marsh]

On 10/11/2018 4:22 PM, claviger wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 9, 2018 at 11:00:41 AM UTC-5, Anthony Marsh wrote:
>> On 10/7/2018 5:31 PM, claviger wrote:
>>
>>> Cite please.
>> Six Seconds in Dallas, page 129. Where have you been all these years?
>> I've only posted it a few dozen times. Next year you'll be back askng
>> the questions again.
>
> That is not where he described it in his original statement. I suspect
> he fell under the influence of Mark Lane.
>

Did he say EVERYTHING in his original statement.
When a person runs up to a cop and gives a statement is that the end of
it. No, silly. Why did the WC ask people to testify? The HSCA already
knew all the FBI and SS statements and WC testimony so why did they
bother to have people testify befor the committee? Use your head.

>>>> You can't even admit that it is a person's head above the top of
>>>> the fence. So tell me what you think it was.
>>> Burford Holly trees were planted along the fence as a beautification
>>> project. Your imagination has convinced you a clump of leaves or a
>>> twisted trunk of a Burford Holly tree it is a sniper. So where is the
>>> rifle?
>> So you think a human head can look like leaves?
>
> In your case vice versa.

What kind of weak-ass insult is that?

>
>>>> There was nothing there before or after the shooting.
>>> Prove it.
>> I have many times and others have too. Talk to Tink.
>
> Tink was not in the 14' tower behind the fence on the day
> of the parade. Lee Bowers was.
>

The view was the same days later or years later.

>>>> Do you think it was bush that walked in to watch the motorcade
>>>> and then walked out after?
>>> No it was still there after the shooting. Here it is again:
>>> http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/arnold/stoughtonlg.jpg
>> Nonsense. You can't even circle what you are talking about. You may be
>> looking in the wrong place. Show me another photo taken from the same
>> angle and circle what you call a bush.
>
> The enhanced photos of the Moorman photo destroys your theory.
>

No. There is nothing there but your imagination. Trees do not pull
themselves up by their roots and walk away.

>>>>> light shining through the "head". What you're seeing in the trunk of the
>>>>> Burford Holly trees along the fence.
>>>> There is no light shining through the head. Show me your bush in a photo
>>>> taken before or after the shooting. YOU have nothing.
>>> Mary Moorman
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Moorman
>>> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ae/Moorman_photo_of_JFK_assassination.jpg
>>> More photos showing how various clumps of leaves in the Burford Holly
>>> shrubs could be mistaken for a head above the fence in black and white
>>> photos.
>> No, a head does not look like leaves.
>
> Not a human head. Must be an alien from outer space.
>
>

I didn't say that, you did. It's your theory so which race of aliens do
you claim it was?

[claviger]

On Friday, October 12, 2018 at 7:39:06 AM UTC-5, Anthony Marsh wrote:
> On 10/11/2018 4:22 PM, claviger wrote:
> > On Tuesday, October 9, 2018 at 11:00:41 AM UTC-5, Anthony Marsh wrote:
> >> On 10/7/2018 5:31 PM, claviger wrote:
> >>
> >>> Cite please.
> >> Six Seconds in Dallas, page 129. Where have you been all these years?
> >> I've only posted it a few dozen times. Next year you'll be back askng
> >> the questions again.
> > That is not where he described it in his original statement. I suspect
> > he fell under the influence of Mark Lane.
> Did he say EVERYTHING in his original statement.
> When a person runs up to a cop and gives a statement is that the end
> of it. No, silly. Why did the WC ask people to testify? The HSCA already
> knew all the FBI and SS statements and WC testimony so why did they
> bother to have people testify befor the committee? Use your head.

S M Holland :

I am a signal supervisor for the Union Terminal and I was
inspecting signal and switches and stopped to watch the parade.
I was standing on top of the triple underpass and the President's
Car was coming down Elm Street and when they got just about to
the Arcade I heard what I thought for the moment was a firecracker
and he slumped over and I looked toward the arcade and trees and
saw a puff of smoke come from the trees and I heard three more
shots after the first shot but that was the only puff of smoke I saw.

I immediately ran around to where I could see behind the arcade
and did not see anyone running from there. But the puff of smoke
I saw definitely came from behind the arcade through the trees.

After the first shot the President slumped over and Mrs. Kennedy
jumped up and tried to get over in the back seat to him and then
the second shot rang out. After the first shot the secret service
man raised up in the seat with a machine gun and then dropped
back down in the seat. And they immediately sped off.

Everything is spinning in my head and if I remember anything else
later I will come back and tell Bill.

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/hollan1.htm

In testimony before the WC Panel:

• Holland heard 4 shots.

• He thought the shots came from the "arcade" i.e. pergola.

• The puff of smoke shot was not as loud as the other shots.

• He saw a puff of smoke come from 6 or 8 feet above the trees.

•  He immediately ran to a position where he could see behind the
trees and arcade but saw no person anywhere back there.

So Holland confirms what Bowers said, therefore both witnesses
saw nobody behind the fence.

> >>>> You can't even admit that it is a person's head above the top of
> >>>> the fence. So tell me what you think it was.
> >>> Burford Holly trees were planted along the fence as a beautification
> >>> project. Your imagination has convinced you a clump of leaves or a
> >>> twisted trunk of a Burford Holly tree it is a sniper. So where is the
> >>> rifle?
> >> So you think a human head can look like leaves?
> > In your case vice versa.
> What kind of weak-ass insult is that?

No insult. In a Black and White photo a clump of leaves
can look like a head above the fence.

> >>>> There was nothing there before or after the shooting.
> >>> Prove it.
> >> I have many times and others have too. Talk to Tink.
> > Tink was not in the 14' tower behind the fence on the day
> > of the parade. Lee Bowers was.
> The view was the same days later or years later.

I provided several photos where a clump of leaves or twisted trunk
of the Burford Holly shrub can look like a head in a B&W photo.

> >>>> Do you think it was bush that walked in to watch the motorcade
> >>>> and then walked out after?
> >>> No it was still there after the shooting. Here it is again:
> >>> http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/arnold/stoughtonlg.jpg
> >> Nonsense. You can't even circle what you are talking about.
> >> You may be looking in the wrong place. Show me another
> >> photo taken from the same angle and circle what you call a bush.
> > The enhanced photos of the Moorman photo destroys your theory.
> No. There is nothing there but your imagination. Trees do not pull
> themselves up by their roots and walk away.

Your imagination thought two twisted trunks of a shrub looked like
a human head. I also referred you to a photo with a magnification
function and when you do it becomes obvious it was not a head
because light is shining through the double trunks.

> >>>>> light shining through the "head". What you're seeing in the trunk of the
> >>>>> Burford Holly trees along the fence.
> >>>> There is no light shining through the head. Show me your bush in a photo
> >>>> taken before or after the shooting. YOU have nothing.
> >>> Mary Moorman
> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Moorman
> >>> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ae/Moorman_photo_of_JFK_assassination.jpg
> >>> More photos showing how various clumps of leaves in the Burford Holly
> >>> shrubs could be mistaken for a head above the fence in black and white
> >>> photos.
> >> No, a head does not look like leaves.
> > Not a human head. Must be an alien from outer space.
> I didn't say that, you did. It's your theory so which race of
> aliens do you claim it was?

So an Alien from outer space fired a shot at the motorcade?
Must be an alien because it disappeared in a puff of smoke.

[Anthony Marsh]

> ??? Holland heard 4 shots.
>

Sounds like a conspireacy witness to me.
So you have to call him a liar.

> ??? He thought the shots came from the "arcade" i.e. pergola.
>

Maybe. Close enough.

> ??? The puff of smoke shot was not as loud as the other shots.
>

Subjective. Also maybe be based on the direction it was fired.

> ??? He saw a puff of smoke come from 6 or 8 feet above the trees.
>
> ???????He immediately ran to a position where he could see behind the

> trees and arcade but saw no person anywhere back there.
>
> So Holland confirms what Bowers said, therefore both witnesses
> saw nobody behind the fence.
>

False. Maybe someone did, but never came forward.

>>>>>> You can't even admit that it is a person's head above the top of
>>>>>> the fence. So tell me what you think it was.
>>>>> Burford Holly trees were planted along the fence as a beautification
>>>>> project. Your imagination has convinced you a clump of leaves or a
>>>>> twisted trunk of a Burford Holly tree it is a sniper. So where is the
>>>>> rifle?
>>>> So you think a human head can look like leaves?
>>> In your case vice versa.
>> What kind of weak-ass insult is that?
>
> No insult. In a Black and White photo a clump of leaves
> can look like a head above the fence.
>
>>>>>> There was nothing there before or after the shooting.
>>>>> Prove it.
>>>> I have many times and others have too. Talk to Tink.
>>> Tink was not in the 14' tower behind the fence on the day
>>> of the parade. Lee Bowers was.
>> The view was the same days later or years later.
>
> I provided several photos where a clump of leaves or twisted trunk
> of the Burford Holly shrub can look like a head in a B&W photo.
>

No, you provided garbage.

>
>>>>>> Do you think it was bush that walked in to watch the motorcade
>>>>>> and then walked out after?
>>>>> No it was still there after the shooting. Here it is again:
>>>>> http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/arnold/stoughtonlg.jpg
>>>> Nonsense. You can't even circle what you are talking about.
>>>> You may be looking in the wrong place. Show me another
>>>> photo taken from the same angle and circle what you call a bush.
>>> The enhanced photos of the Moorman photo destroys your theory.
>> No. There is nothing there but your imagination. Trees do not pull
>> themselves up by their roots and walk away.
>
> Your imagination thought two twisted trunks of a shrub looked like
> a human head. I also referred you to a photo with a magnification

Is a trunk shaped like a man's head? Show me some examples of trees
shapes like a man's head.

> function and when you do it becomes obvious it was not a head
> because light is shining through the double trunks.
>

Oh, so now you've invented a DOUBLE trunk tree. Can you show me pictures
of this mysterious tree taken after the assassination? You just can't ever
admit ANY fact.

>>>>>>> light shining through the "head". What you're seeing in the trunk of the
>>>>>>> Burford Holly trees along the fence.
>>>>>> There is no light shining through the head. Show me your bush in a photo
>>>>>> taken before or after the shooting. YOU have nothing.
>>>>> Mary Moorman
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Moorman
>>>>> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ae/Moorman_photo_of_JFK_assassination.jpg
>>>>> More photos showing how various clumps of leaves in the Burford Holly
>>>>> shrubs could be mistaken for a head above the fence in black and white
>>>>> photos.
>>>> No, a head does not look like leaves.
>>> Not a human head. Must be an alien from outer space.
>> I didn't say that, you did. It's your theory so which race of
>> aliens do you claim it was?
>
> So an Alien from outer space fired a shot at the motorcade?

You said that. I didn't.

> Must be an alien because it disappeared in a puff of smoke.

Nonsense.
If you claim he disappeared that means that you stipulated that he was
there. Be more careful in your mindless attacks.

>
>

[claviger]

On Sunday, October 14, 2018 at 12:26:45 PM UTC-5, Anthony Marsh wrote:
> On 10/13/2018 11:51 AM, claviger wrote:
>
> > ??? Holland heard 4 shots.
> Sounds like a conspireacy witness to me.
> So you have to call him a liar.

One of them sounded different. Not a liar if 3 shots came
from the 6th floor, but last shot was street level.

> > ??? He thought the shots came from the "arcade" i.e. pergola.
> Maybe. Close enough.

He looked along the fence on his way to check the Arcade.

> > ??? The puff of smoke shot was not as loud as the other shots.
> Subjective. Also maybe be based on the direction it was fired.

The last shot was much closer if it came from the Fence.

> > ??? He saw a puff of smoke come from 6 or 8 feet above the trees.
> > ???????He immediately ran to a position where he could see behind the
> > trees and arcade but saw no person anywhere back there.
> > So Holland confirms what Bowers said, therefore both witnesses
> > saw nobody behind the fence.
> False. Maybe someone did, but never came forward.

A conditional Maybe does not support an emphatic False.

> > I provided several photos where a clump of leaves or twisted trunk
> > of the Burford Holly shrub can look like a head in a B&W photo.
> No, you provided garbage.

Not to anyone with at least average eyesight.

> >>>>>> Do you think it was bush that walked in to watch the motorcade
> >>>>>> and then walked out after?
> >>>>> No it was still there after the shooting. Here it is again:
> >>>>> http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/arnold/stoughtonlg.jpg
> >>>> Nonsense. You can't even circle what you are talking about.
> >>>> You may be looking in the wrong place. Show me another
> >>>> photo taken from the same angle and circle what you call a bush.
> >>> The enhanced photos of the Moorman photo destroys your theory.
> >> No. There is nothing there but your imagination. Trees do not pull
> >> themselves up by their roots and walk away.
> > Your imagination thought two twisted trunks of a shrub looked like
> > a human head. I also referred you to a photo with a magnification
> Is a trunk shaped like a man's head? Show me some examples of trees
> shapes like a man's head.

I already did but poor eyesight failed you once again.

> > function and when you do it becomes obvious it was not a head
> > because light is shining through the double trunks.
> Oh, so now you've invented a DOUBLE trunk tree. Can you show me pictures
> of this mysterious tree taken after the assassination? You just can't ever
> admit ANY fact.

This statement demonstrates how unobservant you are

> >>>>>>> light shining through the "head". What you're seeing in the trunk of the
> >>>>>>> Burford Holly trees along the fence.
> >>>>>> There is no light shining through the head. Show me your bush in a photo
> >>>>>> taken before or after the shooting. YOU have nothing.
> >>>>> Mary Moorman
> >>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Moorman
> >>>>> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ae/Moorman_photo_of_JFK_assassination.jpg
> >>>>> More photos showing how various clumps of leaves in the Burford Holly
> >>>>> shrubs could be mistaken for a head above the fence in black and white
> >>>>> photos.
> >>>> No, a head does not look like leaves.
> >>> Not a human head. Must be an alien from outer space.
> >> I didn't say that, you did. It's your theory so which race of
> >> aliens do you claim it was?
> > So an Alien from outer space fired a shot at the motorcade?
> You said that. I didn't.

Maybe the Invisible Man was hired to fire the "Insurance Shot".
His invisible bullet missed from up close.

> > Must be an alien because it disappeared in a puff of smoke.
> Nonsense.
> If you claim he disappeared that means that you stipulated that
> he was there. Be more careful in your mindless attacks.

Simple speculation as to why not one witness saw or heard a shot
from behind the fence on the GK.