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blackpo...@gmail.com

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Jul 16, 2015, 7:23:34 AM7/16/15
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On Wednesday, July 15, 2015 at 11:09:34 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> From Tiffany, a Poet:
>
> "Hi if you like a variety of diff poetry could you please if you don't mind. like/share/support my NEW poetry page. I'd be very appreciative.
> Blessings, Tiffany"
>
> https://www.facebook.com/Poetictiffany

Sorry Tiffany, your message isn't new. What disturbs me is that photo pf Bill Cosby, with a message of some sort regarding something or other...you want to be serious, get serious.

BPJ
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blackpo...@gmail.com

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Jul 16, 2015, 10:53:04 AM7/16/15
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On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 10:41:11 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 7:23:34 AM UTC-4, blackpo...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Wednesday, July 15, 2015 at 11:09:34 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > From Tiffany, a Poet:
> > >
> > > "Hi if you like a variety of diff poetry could you please if you don't mind. like/share/support my NEW poetry page. I'd be very appreciative.
> > > Blessings, Tiffany"
> > >
> > > https://www.facebook.com/Poetictiffany
> >
> > Sorry Tiffany, your message isn't new. What disturbs me is that photo of Bill Cosby, with a message of some sort regarding something or other...you want to be serious, get serious.
> >
> > BPJ
>
> I only glanced through Tiffany's page, looking for her poetry, and didn't really register all the graphics and so on... I take it that some of the postings are offensive?


Not offensive but naive ...God this, God that...then a pic of Cosby as some one to look up to put me over the edge...and then there is 'poetry'

I offer you one of hers:

Pull over baby I have that urge.
Your body I'm ready to splurge.
I'm in the mood for our bodies to merge.
I don't care whose watching I want to be spontaneous
My love for you is so dangerous
Kiss me passionately like its our first and last time.
I just want to say your mine all mine.
For you my legs easily spread apart right here right now I'll give you my all.
Baby it's about rocket and waterfalls
I'm in heaven on earth I'm open wide.
Just pull my panties to the side.
I'm drunk in love and this is the truth.
One plus one equal two baby make love to me in this Phone booth. 📝📝📝📝📝 Copyright© 2014
Poetic Tiffany Poet


God's virtues she rams on about seems to get lost.....(I am a non believer to set the record straight)

This is a place of comment, I commented.

Your link to her 'work' seemed to be with your blessings...and I know that isn't true...don't want you to get a bad name with PJR :-)

BPJ
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gen...@hotmail.com

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Jul 16, 2015, 2:50:52 PM7/16/15
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now you're a copyright abuser just like all your
"friends".

What the fuck is the matter with you?

blackpo...@gmail.com

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Jul 16, 2015, 4:05:39 PM7/16/15
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Do you really think you intimidate me?

Will Dockery

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Jul 16, 2015, 5:36:08 PM7/16/15
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On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 4:05:39 PM UTC-4, blackpo...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 2:50:52 PM UTC-4, generic troll @hotmail.com wrote:
> > now you're a copyright abuser just like all your
> > "friends".
> >
> > What the fuck is the matter with you?
>
> > On 16-Jul-2015, blackpo...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > > Copyright© 2014
> > > Poetic Tiffany Poet
>
> Do you really think you intimidate me?

Exactly... an anonymous "man" hiding behind a fake name is so threatening, eh?

:D

gen...@hotmail.com

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Jul 16, 2015, 6:35:57 PM7/16/15
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I don't know enough about you to know.

I don't care about you enough to find out.

You do seem to be intimidated by just about
everything and everybody, from a cursory
examination of your attempts at writing, however.

You remind me of that "bobby" character from
Philly we had here a few decades ago.

blackpo...@gmail.com

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Jul 16, 2015, 7:24:20 PM7/16/15
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and you remind me of the mental illness which seems to run rampant in this place, for that you have my sympathy.

George Dance

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Jul 16, 2015, 7:47:58 PM7/16/15
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On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 2:50:52 PM UTC-4, gen...@hotmail.com wrote:
> now you're a copyright abuser just like all your
> "friends".
>
>
> > Copyright© 2014
> > Poetic Tiffany Poet

If that's your new pen name, Gary, you can always file a DMCA complaint and do a takedown. I can help show you how; I've had to file 4 against posts you've made infringing my copyrights, remember.

blackpo...@gmail.com

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Jul 16, 2015, 8:31:03 PM7/16/15
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Not familiar with this PJR wannabe...but he does share the same affliction, I see

J

gen...@hotmail.com

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Jul 17, 2015, 12:18:27 AM7/17/15
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On 16-Jul-2015, George Dance
<george...@yahoo.ca> wrote:

> I've had to file 4 against posts you've made
> infringing my copyrights, remember.


Oh, come on, georgie, we all know you're perfectly
capable of inventing a better lie than that.

George Dance

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Jul 17, 2015, 6:16:25 AM7/17/15
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I think the last time you were here, he was still posting under the name "ggamble".

Will Dockery

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Jul 17, 2015, 10:13:24 AM7/17/15
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On Friday, July 17, 2015 at 6:16:25 AM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
> On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 8:31:03 PM UTC-4, blackpo...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 7:47:58 PM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
> > > On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 2:50:52 PM UTC-4, generic troll @hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > > now you're a copyright abuser just like all your
> > > > "friends".
> > > >
> > > > > Copyright© 2014
> > > > > Poetic Tiffany Poet
> > >
> > > If that's your new pen name, Gary, you can always file a DMCA complaint and do a takedown. I can help show you how; I've had to file 4 against posts you've made infringing my copyrights, remember.
> >
> > Not familiar with this PJR wannabe...but he does share the same affliction, I see.
>
> I think the last time you were here, he was still posting under the name "ggamble".

If the Generic Troll really is Gary Gamble, then he's a prime target to nail to the wall, as Gary used to routinely abuse the copyrights of poets here, by his own logic... I forget the poet's name or even the name of the poem exactly, but I can easily refresh my memory if anyone cares.

Gary Gamble also re-posted several of my poems here without my permission, for whatever agenda he had at the time. Those should be easy to locate in the archives as well.

I'm still not absolutely convinced the Generic Troll is really Gary Gamble... but there are indications that he may be.

And so it goes.
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Will Dockery

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Jul 18, 2015, 9:57:54 AM7/18/15
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Peter J Ross wrote:
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> I don't think George Dance is Gary Gamble.

I don't think /anyone/ thinks that, Peter.

:D

gen...@hotmail.com

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Jul 18, 2015, 10:03:50 AM7/18/15
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On 17-Jul-2015, Peter J Ross
<peadar...@gmx.com> wrote:

> I don't think George Dunce is Gary Gamble.


I thought you were Gary Gamble, wtf?

Will Dockery

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Jul 18, 2015, 10:10:20 AM7/18/15
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Peter J Ross wrote:
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> "Ironywaves" and "Parnello's Pizza"
> anonymous

The name of my rock band in the 1990s and a place I used to work at, hardly anonymous.

:D

Will Dockery

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Jul 18, 2015, 10:20:18 AM7/18/15
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On Friday, July 17, 2015 at 6:16:25 AM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
> On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 8:31:03 PM UTC-4, blackpo...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > Not familiar with this PJR wannabe...but he does share the same affliction, I see
> >
> I think the last time you were here, he was still posting under the name "ggamble".

Here's an archived post on Gary Gamble/ggamble's repeated copyright abuse of the poem by "Sick Mind" titled "Sand Castles and Fiddler Crabs"...

http://alt.mailarchive.ca/arts.poetry.comments/2014-01/0701.html

====================================================
Sand Castles and Fiddler Crabs / Sick Mind

>> On Thursday, August 10, 2006 9:24:56 AM UTC-4, ggamble wrote:
>>> On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 08:40:55 GMT, "Sick Mind" wrote:
>
> >> >> > Poetry often has wisdom beyond the obvious.
>
> >> > <excerpted>
>
> >> >> Sand Castles and Fiddler Crabs
>
> >> >> Sand castles and fiddler crabs and families at the beach
> >> >> On a dog-eared page in a poetry book just out of reach
> >> >> And naught else to ponder this frosty winter day
> >> >> To warm the heart or ease the mind in any way
>
> >> > <snipped for copyright purposes>
==========================================================

It goes on for a while but that;s about all we need, here.

:D
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Will Dockery

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Jul 18, 2015, 11:01:55 AM7/18/15
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On Saturday, July 18, 2015 at 10:53:19 AM UTC-4, Peter J Ross wrote:
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> "If the Generic Troll really is Gary Gamble [...]"

If he is, then he's a known abuser of the copyrights of poets.

Here's one where "ggamble" re-posted a poem by Sharon McElroy, without her permission, thus, by the logic of Generic Troll is a repeated copyright abuser.

http://us.arts.poetry.narkive.com/mVclw3hY/rumplestiltskin-s-farewell-to-usenet.7

ggamble 9 years ago
Post by ggamble

"GIFTED"

You can try, but
you can't run or hide
from her,
your other side.

She possesses gifts of
seeing beneath your surface,
and in knowing
your real thoughts.

<Snipped for copyright purposes>

There are other examples of copyright abuse by "ggamble" aka Gary Gamble, but that's enpugh for now.

:D
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Aratzio

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Jul 18, 2015, 12:20:51 PM7/18/15
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On 18 Jul 2015 14:53:57 GMT, in alt.arts.poetry.comments, Peter J Ross
<peadar...@gmx.com> scribed::

>In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Sat, 18 Jul 2015 14:03:41 GMT,
>No, I'm Fred Hall this week. Horatio is Gary Gamble. Try to keep up!

I am Spartacus!
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Will Dockery

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Jul 18, 2015, 12:56:38 PM7/18/15
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On Saturday, July 18, 2015 at 11:29:55 AM UTC-4, Peter J Ross wrote:
> In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Sat, 18 Jul 2015 08:01:55 -0700 (PDT),
> Will Dockery wrote:
>
> > On Saturday, July 18, 2015 at 10:53:19 AM UTC-4, Peter J Ross wrote:
> >>
> >> "If the Generic Troll really is Gary Gamble [...]"
> >
> > If he is, then he's a known abuser of the copyrights of poets.
>
> is a known abuser
> of the copyrights of poets.

That's what the evidence shows:

http://alt.mailarchive.ca/arts.poetry.comments/2014-01/0701.html

On Thursday, August 10, 2006 9:24:56 AM UTC-4, ggamble wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 08:40:55 GMT, "Sick Mind" wrote:
>
> >> >> > Poetry often has wisdom beyond the obvious.
>
> >> >> Sand Castles and Fiddler Crabs
>
> >> >> Sand castles and fiddler crabs and families at the beach
> >> >> On a dog-eared page in a poetry book just out of reach
> >> >> And naught else to ponder this frosty winter day
> >> >> To warm the heart or ease the mind in any way.

<snipped for copyright purposes>

And that's the long and the short of it.

:D
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Will Dockery

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Jul 18, 2015, 1:27:19 PM7/18/15
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On Saturday, July 18, 2015 at 1:22:37 PM UTC-4, Peter J Ross wrote:
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> I fixed your link.

It didn't need "fixing", but anyone can Google "ggamble" + "Sand Castles and Fiddler Crabs" and get the same results I posted.

And, btw, hope you have a nice day.

:D
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Aratzio

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Jul 18, 2015, 2:23:58 PM7/18/15
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On 18 Jul 2015 16:24:16 GMT, in alt.arts.poetry.comments, Peter J Ross
<peadar...@gmx.com> scribed::

>In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Sat, 18 Jul 2015 09:20:44 -0700,
>Hi Alexa!

You are on the list, pest!
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Will Dockery

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On Saturday, July 18, 2015 at 2:09:52 PM UTC-4, Peter J Ross wrote:
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> Plagiarists deserve a slow and painful death, not a sudden one.

Except when the plagiarist is a friend of yours, such as Michael Cook or Dale Houstman, right?

:D

--
Great Poets of America - Later Years
http://rec.arts.poems.narkive.com/ne0MBISc/great-poets-of-america-later-years.14

Aratzio

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Jul 18, 2015, 3:01:40 PM7/18/15
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On 18 Jul 2015 18:31:31 GMT, in alt.arts.poetry.comments, Peter J Ross
<peadar...@gmx.com> scribed::

>In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Sat, 18 Jul 2015 11:23:52 -0700,
>Aratzio wrote:
>
>> On 18 Jul 2015 16:24:16 GMT, in alt.arts.poetry.comments, Peter J Ross
>> <peadar...@gmx.com> scribed::
>>
>>>In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Sat, 18 Jul 2015 09:20:44 -0700,
>>>Aratzio wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 18 Jul 2015 14:53:57 GMT, in alt.arts.poetry.comments, Peter J Ross
>>>> <peadar...@gmx.com> scribed::
>>>>
>>>>>In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Sat, 18 Jul 2015 14:03:41 GMT,
>>>>>gen...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 17-Jul-2015, Peter J Ross
>>>>>> <peadar...@gmx.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't think George Dunce is Gary Gamble.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I thought you were Gary Gamble, wtf?
>>>>>
>>>>>No, I'm Fred Hall this week. Horatio is Gary Gamble. Try to keep up!
>>>>
>>>> I am Spartacus!
>>>
>>>Hi Alexa!
>>
>> You are on the list, pest!
>
>Who is "pest", Aratzio? There is nobody here using that posting
>handle.

I'm going to smash your cello, Ross.

Will Dockery

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On Saturday, July 18, 2015 at 3:01:40 PM UTC-4, Aratzio wrote:
>
> I'm going to smash your cello, Ross.

Oh... such violent thoughts.
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Will Dockery

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Jul 20, 2015, 5:44:30 AM7/20/15
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Peter J Ross wrote:
>
> > Michael Cook
>
> > Dale Houstman
>
> Please post a full lits of AAPC posters past and present

Who are known plagiarists of the poetry of others?

Just those two for now.

:D

Will Dockery

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generic troll wrote in message
news:55aa5cc6$0$44862$c3e8da3$dd96...@news.astraweb.com...
>On 17-Jul-2015, Peter J Ross <peadar...@gmx.com> wrote:
>
>> I don't think George Dunce is Gary Gamble.
>
> I thought you were Gary Gamble, wtf?

You mean the copyright abusing poetry thief Gary Gamble aka ggamble who has
repeatedly re-posted the poetry of others without permission from them?

Here's just one example of ggamble aka Gary Gamble, and his copyright
abusing poetry theft:

http://alt.mailarchive.ca/arts.poetry.comments/2014-01/0701.html

Sand Castles and Fiddler Crabs / Sick Mind

From: Will Dockery <will.dockery_at_gmail.com>

>> On Thursday, August 10, 2006 9:24:56 AM UTC-4, ggamble wrote:
>>> On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 08:40:55 GMT, "Sick Mind" wrote:
>
> >> >> > Poetry often has wisdom beyond the obvious.
>
> >> > <excerpted>
>
> >> >> Sand Castles and Fiddler Crabs
>
> >> >> Sand castles and fiddler crabs and families at the beach
> >> >> On a dog-eared page in a poetry book just out of reach
> >> >> And naught else to ponder this frosty winter day
> >> >> To warm the heart or ease the mind in any way
>
> >> > <snipped for copyright purposes>
>
> >> > Well, bets are on that PJR will ignore (or pretend he doesn't see)
> >> > the fact that ggamble, by PJR's logic, commited copyright abuse
> >> > here.

And so it goes... ggamble, routinely abusing poetry copyrights.

:D

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Will Dockery

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Peter J Ross wrote:
> generic troll wrote in message
> > news:55aa5cc6$0$44862$c3e8da3$dd96...@news.astraweb.com...
>
> Dunce didn't write that message.

We know.

:D
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Will Dockery

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Jul 21, 2015, 6:10:23 PM7/21/15
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Peter J Ross wrote:
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> lying again

When are you not?

:D


George Dance

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On Friday, July 17, 2015 at 12:18:27 AM UTC-4, the generic troll <gen...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 16-Jul-2015, George Dance
> <george...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>
> > I've had to file 4 against posts you've made
> > infringing my copyrights, remember.
>
>
> Oh, come on, georgie, we all know you're perfectly
> capable of inventing a better lie than that.

The truth is sufficient, trollboi: you've abused copyrights -- you've been caught doing it -- and you've had posts removed from google because of it.

gen...@hotmail.com

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On 21-Jul-2015, George Dance
<george...@yahoo.ca> wrote:

> The truth is sufficient,

I guess that means you won't be posting proof any
time soon.
That's typical mensageorge behavior.

> you've abused
> copyrights --

Lie number one.

>you've been caught doing it

Lie number two.

-- and
> you've had posts removed from google because of
> it.

Removed from google?

You still don't know how usenet works after all
this time?

Try not to throw a clot while you're fussing in an
impotent rage, george.

Will Dockery

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On Wednesday, July 22, 2015 at 1:17:51 PM UTC-4, generic @hotmail.com wrote:
> On 21-Jul-2015, George Dance
> <george...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>
> > The truth is sufficient,
>
> I guess that means you won't be posting proof any
> time soon.
> That's typical mensageorge behavior.
>
> > you've abused
> > copyrights --
>
> Lie number one.
>
> >you've been caught doing it
>
> Lie number two.

Depends on who "generic" really is, here, whether those two statements are actually lies. Here, I'll explain, for the newer readers among us...

George Dance, Pendragon and maybe a couple others maintain that "generic" is "ggamble" aka Gary Gamble, who has been "caught" at "abusing copyrights", by the definition of "generic", numerous times.

Here's the link to one of those, one of his many copyright violations of the poetry of "Sick Mind":

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.arts.poetry.comments/yFU40-OVI0g/o3AS6IZJEB8J

ggamble wrote on 8/9/06:
> On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 01:18:54 GMT, "Sick Mind"
<boro...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

>You are the absolute moron whose horse is dead.

The cattle are apparently still alive.

Sand Castles and Fiddler Crabs

Sand castles and fiddler crabs and families at the beach
On a dog-eared page in a poetry book just out of reach
And naught else to ponder this frosty winter day
To warm the heart or ease the mind in any way.

<snipped for copyright purposes>

This is one example of a great many, and again, it depends on whether "generic" actually is the proven copyright abuser "ggamble" aka Gary Gamble.

That's about it, really.

:D

Will Dockery

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On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 2:50:52 PM UTC-4, gen...@hotmail.com wrote:
> now you're a copyright abuser just like

Just like... a fellow who used to post here named "ggamble" aka Gary Gamble. You probably wouldn't remember him, he's been gone a long time.

Here's an example of gg's copyright abuse, by your own logic and judgement:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.arts.poetry.comments/FVLH9UY24DY/q5zzmo5EUdIJ

ggamble wrote on 12/28/06:

Re: Will Dockery interview: 1996

On 28 Dec 2006 12:59:55 -0800, "Will Dockery" <will.d...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>> It's not an autobiographical narrative.
>
>Might as well be, though.
>
>Nothing But Pain.
>
> No sea deep enough,
> no dark black enough.
> No death painless,
> no ressurection coming.
> Open myself up,
> I see twisted roots.
> What has happened,
> what will happen,
> down to the end,
> and down deeper.
> No sea black enough,
> no dark deep enough.
> Sleep not final,
> dreams to awake,
> to this terrible lie.
> I know. Nothing but pain.
> Darkness and pain.
> I know.
> On and on it remains,
> it's all so simple,
> nothing but a grim heart.
>
> -Will Dockery

> What the fuck is the matter with you?

I wonder what was the matter with "ggamble" aka Gary Gamble, that would turn him into a literal /serial/ copyright abuser back in the old days?

Who knows, only the evidence of his actions remain.

:D

> On 16-Jul-2015, blackpo...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > Copyright© 2014
> > Poetic Tiffany Poet

We know.
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Michael Pendragon

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On Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 9:52:33 AM UTC-4, Peter J Ross wrote:
> In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Thu, 23 Jul 2015 02:45:33 -0700 (PDT),
> Will Dockery wrote:
>
> <whinesnip>
>
> When you've finished defaming your betters, will you be available to
> comment on the recently posted additional proof that you plagiarised
> Michael Cook's sound recording?

Wake up, clown! Cook preemptively plagiarized my "Karma Boobs".

Will Dockery

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On Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 9:52:33 AM UTC-4, Peter J Ross wrote:
>
> plagiarised
> Michael Cook's sound recording

To keep it simple, yes, I wrote and posted the "Karma Bombs" poem.

Michael D. Cook took the "Karma Bombs" poem word-for-word and used it without my knowledge or permission, which was copyright abuse and poetry theft.

Then he posted "Karma Bombs" on his website without attribution to me as the writer, attempting to pass it off as his own work, which made his actions plagiarism.

That's the simple facts, and the proof of these facts is archived.

And so it goes.

:D
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On Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 1:31:43 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 9:52:33 AM UTC-4, Peter J Ross wrote:
> >
> > plagiarised
> > Michael Cook's sound recording
>
> To keep it simple, yes, I wrote and posted the "Karma Bombs" poem.
>
><liesnip>

To keep it truthful, I wrote and posted the "Karma Boobs" poem.

You preemptively stole it, changed a few words, and claimed that you stole it from Michael Cook (or vice versa).

But truth cannot be stifled.

Here is a link to the thread in which I, Michael Pendragon, first posted "Karma Boobs" (a.k.a., "Karma Bombs") in this group:

https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c8IIQINBOUk

Will Dockery

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Little did I know a little ditty like "Karma Bombs" would ever have legs like this.

:D

Michael Pendragon

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No surprise. All MY poems are immortal.

Will Dockery

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Jul 23, 2015, 1:59:24 PM7/23/15
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Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 1:31:43 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> On Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 9:52:33 AM UTC-4, Peter J Ross wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > plagiarised

Or, as we call it in America, Michael Cook *plagiarized* the Karma Bombs poem from me.

:D

> > > > > Michael Cook's sound recording
> > > >
> > > > To keep it simple, yes, I wrote and posted the "Karma Bombs" poem.
> > > >
> > > ><liesnip>
> > >
> > > To keep it truthful, I wrote and posted the "Karma Boobs" poem.
> > >
> > > You preemptively stole it, changed a few words, and claimed that you stole it from Michael Cook (or vice versa).
> > >
> > > But truth cannot be stifled.
> > >
> > > Here is a link to the thread in which I, Michael Pendragon, first posted "Karma Boobs" (a.k.a., "Karma Bombs") in this group:
> > >
> > > https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c8IIQINBOUk
> >
> > Little did I know a little ditty like "Karma Bombs" would ever have legs like this.
> >
>
> No surprise. All MY poems are immortal.

A shame National Lampoon is defunct... I loved that zine.

:D

Michael Pendragon

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On Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 1:59:24 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > On Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 1:31:43 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> On Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 9:52:33 AM UTC-4, Peter J Ross wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > plagiarised
>
> Or, as we call it in America, Michael Cook *plagiarized* the Karma Bombs poem from me.
>

He plagiarized it from your plagiarized "parody" of my immortal poem "Karma Boobs."

Coco DeSockmonkey

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Let's tie this thing up, shall we?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQwaxGwUC2k

Will Dockery

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That must be that Merlin/Doctor Who aging backwards thing at work?

Michael Pendragon

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Jul 23, 2015, 5:49:55 PM7/23/15
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One could make a case for Einsteinian relativity as well.

But it's really just the nature of the cyberbeast.

Since few-to-no people will scour the archives of a newsgroup (especially one that's been overrun by trolls for 20 years), "truth" begins and ends with each individual thread.

If, for instance, Joe Doe does a Google search for "Boobs", he might (eventually) turn up one of the threads in which my "Karma Boobs" poem has been mentioned.

And, having no prior knowledge of this group or its participants, he will learn that I introduced this poem in the thread I'm conveniently linking below:

https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c8IIQINBOUk

You can whine about it for another 20 years, but it won't do you a single bit of good. Truth will out. I AM THE SOLE AUTHOR OF "KARMA BOOBS" (a.k.a, "KARMA BOMBS").

Will Dockery

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That sounds a lot like the "Last Man Standing" rule of Dennis M. Hammes.

Who is no longer standing.

:D

Michael Pendragon

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I was employing the "Last Man Standing" rule when Dennis was only a little Hammlet.

Will Dockery

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"The True Test Of Adaptability is 'last man standing, wins.' Mother Nature is a bitch we're /all/ married to." -Dennis M. Hames

Will Dockery

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On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 2:50:52 PM UTC-4, gen...@hotmail.com wrote:
> now you're a copyright abuser just like all your
> "friends".
>
> What the fuck is the matter with you?

So, you would also consider Gary Gamble aka "ggamble" a copyright abuser also, since Gary regularly did just what Jim did, reposted a person's poem for comment and discussion?

I notice you and your hypocritical friend shut up quickly when this subject comes up, but here you go:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/alt.arts.poetry.comments/yFU40-OVI0g/o3AS6IZJEB8J

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On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 01:18:54 GMT, "Sick Mind"
<boro...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

>You are the absolute moron whose horse is dead.

The cattle are apparently still alive.

Sand Castles and Fiddler Crabs

Sand castles and fiddler crabs and families at the beach
On a dog-eared page in a poetry book just out of reach
And naught else to ponder this frosty winter day
To warm the heart or ease the mind in any way

<copyright abuse by ggamble snipped>

And so it... went.
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Will Dockery

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On Friday, July 24, 2015 at 6:00:32 AM UTC-4, Peter J Ross wrote:
> In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Thu, 23 Jul 2015 23:12:30 -0700 (PDT),
> Will Dockery wrote:
>
> > Gary Gamble
>
> > ggamble
>
> > Gary
>
> > ggamble
>
> > ggamble
>
> I may have asked this before, but if I did you didn't answer.
>
> When you dream about him, is he wearing a Star Trek uniform?

He was in the archives committing copyright abuse the last time I saw him.

You accidentally snipped and ran over that part,

:D

Will Dockery

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On Friday, July 24, 2015 at 6:00:32 AM UTC-4, Peter J Ross wrote:
>
> > Gary Gamble
>
> > ggamble

Here's another for you to snip and run over, yet another example of Gary aka gg posting poetry without permission of the copyright owner, which is generally claimed to be copyright abuse on these newsgroups:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/alt.arts.poetry.comments/HJKhPE3w9aM/QhQQspfrVFwJ

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On Wed, 28 Jun 2006 08:44:39 GMT, "Sick Mind"
<boro...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

> It is just too
>bad you couldn't rhyme two words or pace worth fertilizer.

Yeah, too bad you're an illiterate moron who produces doggerel such
as:

Sand Castles and Fiddler Crabs

Sand castles and fiddler crabs and families at the beach
On a dog-eared page in a poetry book just out of reach
And naught else to ponder this frosty winter day
To warm the heart or ease the mind in any way

<gg's copyright abuse snipped>

Go ahead, snip and run, Peter J. Ross... you know you have no other option here.

:D

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Will Dockery

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On Friday, July 24, 2015 at 2:43:44 PM UTC-4, Peter J Ross wrote:
>
> If I were ggamble, I'd be thinking about reporting all these recent
> abuses of his copyright to your news provider.

Your admission of NET-copping is noted, Peter.

:D
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Will Dockery

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On Friday, July 24, 2015 at 4:00:19 PM UTC-4, Peter J Ross wrote:
>
> your claim that you didn't often
> post about Michael Cook.

I only post about Michael D. Cook when the subject of copyright abuse, poetry theft and plagiarism come up, since he's the best example of that type of criminal who has posted on alt.arts.poetry.comments.

A quick recap of the "Karma Bombs" story, for newcomers who may have missed it...

http://alt.mailarchive.ca/arts.poetry.comments/2010-11/0217.html

> Michael Cook stole my poem "Karma Bombs", made a word-
> for-word recording of it (this time I use that term %100 correctly,
> Karla), as Cook stole my poem, didn't change a word of it, but managed
> to leave any credit off his version to me as the writer of the poem
> (as well as the owner, who he never asked my permission to use the
> poem, either).
>
> These facts make Michael Cook a copyright abuser, poetry thief and
> plagiarist, but since he gave the recording to me to use, and backed
> off, it is indeed "over and done with" because I want it to be. I own
> the rights, and also have the right to choose what is done with my
> property, the "Karma Bombs" poem.
>
> What Cook did was "take" and "steal"--- and Karla, the
> roots of the term "borrowed" is here, as Cook responded that's what he
> had done when:
>
> Dockery: "Hey! You stole my poem!"
>
> Cook: "Not stolen, borrowed."
>
> Since the "Karma Bombs"
> poem was stolen by Cook in the first place, he had no rights to it at
> all, and was not authorized to give "permission" as to the use of my
> poem in any way.

"We know."

:D

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Will Dockery

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Peter J Ross wrote:
>
> > I only post about Michael D. Cook when
>
> > it is indeed "over and done with"
>
> > "We know."

For once we agree, Peter.

--
Recording [The "Karma Bombs by Will Dockery" Archive]
http://alt.mailarchive.ca/arts.poetry.comments/2009-10/1409.html

For newer readers who want the full "Karma Bombs" story.

:D

Michael Pendragon

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On Friday, July 24, 2015 at 8:20:30 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Friday, July 24, 2015 at 4:00:19 PM UTC-4, Peter J Ross wrote:
> >
> > your claim that you didn't often
> > post about Michael Cook.
>
> I only post about Michael D. Cook when ...

<liesnip>

"Karma Boobs" was written by me.

https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c8IIQINBOUk

It's a crappy poem, and I've no idea why you would want to steal it, but it's my work all the same.

Michael Pendragon

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Bullshit.

The story began and ended here:

https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c8IIQINBOUk

Stop lying, plagiarist.

Will Dockery

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On Friday, July 24, 2015 at 11:14:20 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Friday, July 24, 2015 at 8:20:30 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Friday, July 24, 2015 at 4:00:19 PM UTC-4, Peter J Ross wrote:
> > >
> > > your claim that you didn't often
> > > post about Michael Cook.
> >
> > I only post about Michael D. Cook when ...
>
> <liesnip>
>
> "Karma Boobs" was written by me.
>
> https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c8IIQINBOUk
>
> It's a crappy poem

Yeah, I know you wrote "Karma Boobs", in fact I had an idea for a video using it which you may be interested in.

Speaking of video, if you have time, check out some of the science fiction epic movie Brian Mallard is making, using all local actors and locations...

https://youtu.be/DKfY9NDsboc

The Epic "Space Advenyures" film from Brian Mallard is coming along great, Mallard tells me he is now one-third finished with it. Here's a sampler, with Duncan Ray.

Will Dockery

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Jul 27, 2015, 6:25:31 PM7/27/15
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Michael Pendragon wrote:
> Will Dockery wrote:
>
>> That sounds a lot like the "Last Man Standing" rule of Dennis M. Hammes.
>
>> Who is no longer standing.
>
>> :D
>
> I was employing the "Last Man Standing" rule when Dennis was only a little
> Hammlet.

That was a long time ago, as Dennis M. Hammes was about 80 when he died, and
that was ten years ago.

:D

Will Dockery

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Jul 27, 2015, 6:33:56 PM7/27/15
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Blackpool Jimmy wrote in message
news:18bc5f41-d063-4e4a...@googlegroups.com...
> generic troll @hotmail.com wrote:
> now you're a copyright abuser just like all your
> "friends".
>
> What the fuck is the matter with you?
>
> On 16-Jul-2015, blackpo...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > CopyrightŠ 2014
> > Poetic Tiffany Poet
>
> Do you really think you intimidate me?

Yeah well the generic troll s.t.f.u. when it was pointed out to him that his
beloved ggamble aka Gary Gamble used to regularly show himself to be an
alleged "copyright abuser" in just the same way.

Funny how events have a way of dropping a karma bomb on hypocritical trolls
like Generic Troll and his ilk.

:D

Will Dockery

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Jul 27, 2015, 7:49:21 PM7/27/15
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"Peter J Ross" wrote in message
news:slrnmql2qr.33...@pjr.no-ip.org...
>
> I fixed your link.

Thanks, I didn't know it was broken, Peter.

http://alt.mailarchive.ca/arts.poetry.comments/2014-01/0701.html

On Thursday, August 10, 2006 9:24:56 AM UTC-4, ggamble wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 08:40:55 GMT, "Sick Mind" wrote:
>
> >> >> > Poetry often has wisdom beyond the obvious.
>
> >> >> Sand Castles and Fiddler Crabs
>
> >> >> Sand castles and fiddler crabs and families at the beach
> >> >> On a dog-eared page in a poetry book just out of reach
> >> >> And naught else to ponder this frosty winter day
> >> >> To warm the heart or ease the mind in any way.

<snipped for copyright purposes>

And that's about the long and the short of it.

Michael Pendragon

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I've been using it since late 1963. I'd cry at the top of my lungs until my mother broke down and passed me the bottle, pacifier, or pinned a dry pair of diapers on my butt.

Will Dockery

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Good one.

:D

Zod The Mighty

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On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 10:53:04 AM UTC-4, Tiffany wrote:
>
> > > > From Tiffany, a Poet:
> > > >
> > > > "Hi if you like a variety of diff poetry could you please if you don't mind. like/share/support my NEW poetry page. I'd be very appreciative.
> > > > Blessings, Tiffany"
> > > >
> > > > https://www.facebook.com/Poetictiffany
>
> Pull over baby I have that urge.
> Your body I'm ready to splurge.
> I'm in the mood for our bodies to merge.
> I don't care whose watching I want to be spontaneous
> My love for you is so dangerous
> Kiss me passionately like its our first and last time.
> I just want to say your mine all mine.
> For you my legs easily spread apart right here right now I'll give you my all.
> Baby it's about rocket and waterfalls
> I'm in heaven on earth I'm open wide.
> Just pull my panties to the side.
> I'm drunk in love and this is the truth.
> One plus one equal two baby make love to me in this Phone booth. 📝📝📝📝📝 Copyright© 2014
> Poetic Tiffany Poet

Interesting poet, this Tiffany...….
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