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Raymond Camden
Nov 4, 2010, 2:46:25 PM11/4/10
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During MAX this year I was managing the CF Unconference so I was only
able to attend one session - but what were folks favorite sessions?
I'm watching this one now:
able to attend one session - but what were folks favorite sessions?
I'm watching this one now:
Camera, GPS, and Accelerometer: Tapping into Device Features with Adobe AIR
http://tv.adobe.com/watch/max-2010-develop/camera-gps-and-accelerometer-tapping-into-device-features-with-adobe-air/
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Charlie Griefer
Nov 4, 2010, 3:00:29 PM11/4/10
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Seconding this request (for the same reason).
I need to start developing a mobile app shortly. Primary target is the iPhone, but there's absolutely no reason to not want to be able to deploy to Android as well. I was originally going to do jQTouch or jQuery mobile and phonegap it, but now my curiosity is really piqued about what I can do with AIR. Especially things like the "native" functionality such as GPS/accelerometer, and maps (specifically, find all locations nearest to me within an 'x' mile radius).
So, sort of a naive question (and one that clearly shows I haven't even started googling yet)... with AIR, do I have all of those "native" capabilities available to me?
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Raymond Camden
Nov 4, 2010, 3:12:35 PM11/4/10
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In the link I showed you he specifically demos both GPS and
accelerometer. I'm going to ping him to get his slides/code up on
Adobe TV.
accelerometer. I'm going to ping him to get his slides/code up on
Adobe TV.
Charlie Griefer
Nov 4, 2010, 3:30:43 PM11/4/10
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Maps? ability to say, "find all stores within x miles"? :)
(yes, I'll google at some point. still in "catching up from MAX" mode @ work and... well, I saw an opening to just go ahead and ask the question :D
Raymond Camden
Nov 4, 2010, 3:48:14 PM11/4/10
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The 'find within x miles' is a math problem. I'm researching it now
for Adobe Groups. So in theory that part is a non-issue for AIR.
for Adobe Groups. So in theory that part is a non-issue for AIR.
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Charlie Griefer
Charlie Griefer
Nov 4, 2010, 3:58:24 PM11/4/10
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Aye, but I meant less the actual calculation of figuring it out (I apologize for not being clear, lack of sleep and all), as much as the displaying it using google maps like a native app would.
But I'm figuring that should work fine, since it's just HTML and JS. So, nevermind. Lucidity moment there :)
Looking forward to getting started with this. I think building a multi-OS mobile app in AIR is going to be much cooler than the route I had previously planned.
Paul Robertson
Nov 4, 2010, 4:32:00 PM11/4/10
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Unlike AIR for Android, AIR for iPhone doesn't (yet) have any way to
display HTML and JavaScript. Apple doesn't allow apps to include
their own version of WebKit (which would be the most straightforward
way for an AIR/iPhone app to use HTML/JS). The AIR team added the
StageWebView to AIR/Android as a lightweight HTML/JS container (with
very limited communication to the rest of the app).
In either case, you can't build the whole app in HTML/JS like you can with AIR for the desktop.
In terms of the specific case of Google Maps, there is a Google Maps ActionScript api that developers have used to include Google Maps functionality in their ActionScript AIR/Android apps (and in AIR desktop apps). I don't think I've ever heard of someone using it for an AIR/iOS app but that doesn't mean nobody's tried, of course. Admittedly, most of the time I've heard about the API it's because people are complaining about the performance, but from what I understand that's a bug on the Google API side rather than an AIR issue, and there's a bug people are voting for on the Google Code page for the maps ActionScript api.
Paul
In either case, you can't build the whole app in HTML/JS like you can with AIR for the desktop.
In terms of the specific case of Google Maps, there is a Google Maps ActionScript api that developers have used to include Google Maps functionality in their ActionScript AIR/Android apps (and in AIR desktop apps). I don't think I've ever heard of someone using it for an AIR/iOS app but that doesn't mean nobody's tried, of course. Admittedly, most of the time I've heard about the API it's because people are complaining about the performance, but from what I understand that's a bug on the Google API side rather than an AIR issue, and there's a bug people are voting for on the Google Code page for the maps ActionScript api.
Paul
Javier Julio
Nov 5, 2010, 10:22:58 PM11/5/10
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@Paul,
You've heard of one now! I will be using Google Maps in an AIR for
Android app and expect to see many, many more from others! ;)
Something like maps is vital to mobile devices so we should see more
of it coming up in mobile AIR apps.
Yes, there is a massive issue with performance, not just AIR for
Android but in general. Obviously, the big deal breaker here is for
Android since something like Google Maps really won't be as useful on
the desktop as it would be on a mobile device. The problem is if your
app is anything more than just a single Map, fogehaboutit, you will
have a 10-15 second startup delay. In my case, the map appears on app
startup so my Nexus One shows a black screen for about 10-15 seconds
before the map appears. If you don't on startup but you show the map
at a later point, at that time is when the delay will kick in.
This is incredibly serious issue as it doesn't allow any of us to
suitably use Google Maps for Android. Please star the following code
issue: http://code.google.com/p/gmaps-api-issues/issues/detail?id=2750
So far we have 17 stars and we'll need many more before it gets
noticed sadly.
> > >> >> Blog :www.coldfusionjedi.com
> > <http://www.coldfusionjedi.com>
> > >> Blog :www.coldfusionjedi.com<http://www.coldfusionjedi.com>
> > Blog :www.coldfusionjedi.com<http://www.coldfusionjedi.com>
You've heard of one now! I will be using Google Maps in an AIR for
Android app and expect to see many, many more from others! ;)
Something like maps is vital to mobile devices so we should see more
of it coming up in mobile AIR apps.
Yes, there is a massive issue with performance, not just AIR for
Android but in general. Obviously, the big deal breaker here is for
Android since something like Google Maps really won't be as useful on
the desktop as it would be on a mobile device. The problem is if your
app is anything more than just a single Map, fogehaboutit, you will
have a 10-15 second startup delay. In my case, the map appears on app
startup so my Nexus One shows a black screen for about 10-15 seconds
before the map appears. If you don't on startup but you show the map
at a later point, at that time is when the delay will kick in.
This is incredibly serious issue as it doesn't allow any of us to
suitably use Google Maps for Android. Please star the following code
issue: http://code.google.com/p/gmaps-api-issues/issues/detail?id=2750
So far we have 17 stars and we'll need many more before it gets
noticed sadly.
> > On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 12:48 PM, Raymond Camden <rcam...@gmail.com
> > <mailto:rcam...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> > The 'find within x miles' is a math problem. I'm researching it now
> > for Adobe Groups. So in theory that part is a non-issue for AIR.
>
> > On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Charlie Griefer
> > <mailto:rcam...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> > The 'find within x miles' is a math problem. I'm researching it now
> > for Adobe Groups. So in theory that part is a non-issue for AIR.
>
> > On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Charlie Griefer
> > <charlie.grie...@gmail.com <mailto:charlie.grie...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > > Maps? ability to say, "find all stores within x miles"? :)
> > > (yes, I'll google at some point. still in "catching up from
> > MAX" mode @
> > > work and... well, I saw an opening to just go ahead and ask the
> > question :D
>
> > > On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Raymond Camden
> > > Maps? ability to say, "find all stores within x miles"? :)
> > > (yes, I'll google at some point. still in "catching up from
> > MAX" mode @
> > > work and... well, I saw an opening to just go ahead and ask the
> > question :D
>
> > > On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Raymond Camden
> > <rcam...@gmail.com <mailto:rcam...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> > >> In the link I showed you he specifically demos both GPS and
> > >> accelerometer. I'm going to ping him to get his slides/code up on
> > >> Adobe TV.
>
> > >> On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 2:00 PM, Charlie Griefer
> > >> <charlie.grie...@gmail.com <mailto:charlie.grie...@gmail.com>>
>
> > >> In the link I showed you he specifically demos both GPS and
> > >> accelerometer. I'm going to ping him to get his slides/code up on
> > >> Adobe TV.
>
> > >> On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 2:00 PM, Charlie Griefer
> > wrote:
> > >> > Seconding this request (for the same reason).
> > >> > I need to start developing a mobile app shortly. Primary
> > target is the
> > >> > iPhone, but there's absolutely no reason to not want to be
> > able to
> > >> > deploy to
> > >> > Android as well. I was originally going to do jQTouch or
> > jQuery mobile
> > >> > and
> > >> > phonegap it, but now my curiosity is really piqued about what
> > I can do
> > >> > with
> > >> > AIR. Especially things like the "native" functionality such as
> > >> > GPS/accelerometer, and maps (specifically, find all locations
> > nearest to
> > >> > me
> > >> > within an 'x' mile radius).
> > >> > So, sort of a naive question (and one that clearly shows I
> > haven't even
> > >> > started googling yet)... with AIR, do I have all of those
> > "native"
> > >> > capabilities available to me?
>
> > >> > On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Raymond Camden
> > <rcam...@gmail.com <mailto:rcam...@gmail.com>>
> > >> > Seconding this request (for the same reason).
> > >> > I need to start developing a mobile app shortly. Primary
> > target is the
> > >> > iPhone, but there's absolutely no reason to not want to be
> > able to
> > >> > deploy to
> > >> > Android as well. I was originally going to do jQTouch or
> > jQuery mobile
> > >> > and
> > >> > phonegap it, but now my curiosity is really piqued about what
> > I can do
> > >> > with
> > >> > AIR. Especially things like the "native" functionality such as
> > >> > GPS/accelerometer, and maps (specifically, find all locations
> > nearest to
> > >> > me
> > >> > within an 'x' mile radius).
> > >> > So, sort of a naive question (and one that clearly shows I
> > haven't even
> > >> > started googling yet)... with AIR, do I have all of those
> > "native"
> > >> > capabilities available to me?
>
> > >> > On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Raymond Camden
> > >> > wrote:
>
> > >> >> During MAX this year I was managing the CF Unconference so I
> > was only
> > >> >> able to attend one session - but what were folks favorite
> > sessions?
> > >> >> I'm watching this one now:
>
> > >> >> Camera, GPS, and Accelerometer: Tapping into Device Features
> > with Adobe
> > >> >> AIR
>
> > http://tv.adobe.com/watch/max-2010-develop/camera-gps-and-acceleromet...
>
> > >> >> During MAX this year I was managing the CF Unconference so I
> > was only
> > >> >> able to attend one session - but what were folks favorite
> > sessions?
> > >> >> I'm watching this one now:
>
> > >> >> Camera, GPS, and Accelerometer: Tapping into Device Features
> > with Adobe
> > >> >> AIR
>
>
> > >> >> --
>
> > ===========================================================================
> > >> >> Raymond Camden, ColdFusion Jedi Master
>
> > >> >> Email : r...@camdenfamily.com <mailto:r...@camdenfamily.com>
> > >> >> --
>
> > ===========================================================================
> > >> >> Raymond Camden, ColdFusion Jedi Master
>
> > >> >> Blog :www.coldfusionjedi.com
> > <http://www.coldfusionjedi.com>
> > >> >> AOL IM : cfjedimaster
>
> > >> >> Keep up to date with the community:
> > http://www.coldfusionbloggers.org
>
> > >> > --
> > >> > Charlie Griefer
> > >> >http://charlie.griefer.com/
>
> > >> > I have failed as much as I have succeeded. But I love my
> > life. I love my
> > >> > wife. And I wish you my kind of success.
>
> > >> --
>
> > ===========================================================================
> > >> Raymond Camden, ColdFusion Jedi Master
>
> > >> Email : r...@camdenfamily.com <mailto:r...@camdenfamily.com>
>
> > >> >> Keep up to date with the community:
> > http://www.coldfusionbloggers.org
>
> > >> > --
> > >> > Charlie Griefer
> > >> >http://charlie.griefer.com/
>
> > >> > I have failed as much as I have succeeded. But I love my
> > life. I love my
> > >> > wife. And I wish you my kind of success.
>
> > >> --
>
> > ===========================================================================
> > >> Raymond Camden, ColdFusion Jedi Master
>
> > >> Blog :www.coldfusionjedi.com<http://www.coldfusionjedi.com>
> > >> AOL IM : cfjedimaster
>
> > >> Keep up to date with the community:
> > http://www.coldfusionbloggers.org
>
> > > --
> > > Charlie Griefer
> > >http://charlie.griefer.com/
>
> > > I have failed as much as I have succeeded. But I love my life. I
> > love my
> > > wife. And I wish you my kind of success.
>
> > --
> > ===========================================================================
> > Raymond Camden, ColdFusion Jedi Master
>
> > Email : r...@camdenfamily.com <mailto:r...@camdenfamily.com>
>
> > >> Keep up to date with the community:
> > http://www.coldfusionbloggers.org
>
> > > --
> > > Charlie Griefer
> > >http://charlie.griefer.com/
>
> > > I have failed as much as I have succeeded. But I love my life. I
> > love my
> > > wife. And I wish you my kind of success.
>
> > --
> > ===========================================================================
> > Raymond Camden, ColdFusion Jedi Master
>
> > Blog :www.coldfusionjedi.com<http://www.coldfusionjedi.com>
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