Re: SDCH spec.

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Randy Smith

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May 15, 2016, 8:00:14 PM5/15/16
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Adding in the SDCH protocol list, as folks on that list may have ideas about copyright status of the spec.

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On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 6:48 PM, Vasily Chekalkin <ba...@yandex-team.ru> wrote:
Hello everyone.

Just to continue discussion about SDCH in slightly more visible place based on https://codereview.chromium.org/1876683002/#msg26.

We do want to properly submit SDCH via IETF. But there is small blocker on the way. Current "SDCH spec"[1] doesn't include copyright statement. So we can't just take it as base.
Same is applicable for stalled SDCH2 work[2]. And we can't incorporate ideas from that document freely. At least without some lawyers involvement.

So question is who I should to bug to have both documents properly copyrighted and we can get from there?



[1]  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/ietf-http-wg/2008JulSep/att-0441/Shared_Dictionary_Compression_over_HTTP.pdf
[2] https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UhN7-ZpDqR3vq9OcZ12LQsfhPaNmJNkCM7KRcPLy2VY/edit

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Randy Smith

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May 16, 2016, 5:24:11 PM5/16/16
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Also pulling in Pranav Kedia, who's driven the delta encoding work (reference [2]).

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John Lenz

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John Lenz

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Jun 3, 2016, 5:02:04 PM6/3/16
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Hi all, the spec text will be relicensing as CC-BY 4.0.

On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 8:25 AM, Chaals McCathie Nevile <cha...@yandex-team.ru> wrote:
Hi all,

(I'm not a lawyer either).

As I read cc-by-sa it seems viral in the copyleft sense. The problem is that we could not publish it at W3C, and may not be compatible with IETF, either. CC-BY would work, or an explicit permission to work on this under IETF license terms within IETF, or something similar.

cheers

On Wed, 01 Jun 2016 16:35:01 +0200, Vladimir Ivanov <wa...@yandex-team.ru> wrote:

+Chaals McCathie Nevile <cha...@yandex-team.ru>

Chaals, could you please clarify the things?

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17.05.2016 03:08, Vasily Chekalkin пишет:
Hello.
I'm not a lawyer, but from my point of view "CC BY-SA" looks reasonable.
17.05.2016, 09:15, "John Lenz" <conca...@gmail.com>:
Would something like this be sufficient:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1U1RGAehQwRypUTovF1KRlpiOFze0b-_2gc6fAH0KY0k/edit#heading=h.zhn1phd7ocnp
On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 2:24 PM, Randy Smith <rds...@chromium.org
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    Also pulling in Pranav Kedia, who's driven the delta encoding
    work (reference [2]).
    -- Randy
    On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 8:00 PM, Randy Smith
    <rds...@chromium.org <mailto:rds...@chromium.org>> wrote:

        Adding in the SDCH protocol list, as folks on that list may
        have ideas about copyright status of the spec.
        -- Randy
        On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 6:48 PM, Vasily Chekalkin
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Hi,

Attached please find the SDCH spec with proper license language. Thank you for your feedback and patience.

Thanks,

Wei-Hsin
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SharedDictionaryCompressionoverHTTP.pdf

Wei-Hsin Lee

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Jun 7, 2016, 5:16:13 PM6/7/16
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Hi Chaals,

You are welcome! With proper license in the spec, I am curious what do you plan to do?

Thanks,

Wei-Hsin

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 2:12 PM, Chaals McCathie Nevile <cha...@yandex-team.ru> wrote:
Hi,

thank you Wei-Hsin and all.

cheers

Chaals


On Tue, 07 Jun 2016 19:26:29 +0200, <weih...@google.com> wrote:

Attached please find the SDCH spec with proper license language. Thank you for your feedback and patience.

Thanks,

Wei-Hsin

On Friday, June 3, 2016 at 2:02:04 PM UTC-7, John Lenz wrote:

Hi all, the spec text will be relicensing as CC-BY 4.0.

On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 8:25 AM, Chaals McCathie Nevile <
cha...@yandex-team.ru <javascript:>> wrote:

Hi all,

(I'm not a lawyer either).

As I read cc-by-sa it seems viral in the copyleft sense. The problem is
that we could not publish it at W3C, and may not be compatible with IETF,
either. CC-BY would work, or an explicit permission to work on this under
IETF license terms within IETF, or something similar.

cheers

On Wed, 01 Jun 2016 16:35:01 +0200, Vladimir Ivanov <wa...@yandex-team.ru
<javascript:>> wrote:

+Chaals McCathie Nevile <cha...@yandex-team.ru <javascript:>>

Chaals, could you please clarify the things?

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17.05.2016 03:08, Vasily Chekalkin пишет:

Hello.
I'm not a lawyer, but from my point of view "CC BY-SA" looks reasonable.
17.05.2016, 09:15, "John Lenz" <conca...@gmail.com <javascript:>>:

Would something like this be sufficient:


https://docs.google.com/document/d/1U1RGAehQwRypUTovF1KRlpiOFze0b-_2gc6fAH0KY0k/edit#heading=h.zhn1phd7ocnp
On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 2:24 PM, Randy Smith <rds...@chromium.org
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<mailto:rds...@chromium.org <javascript:>>> wrote:

    Also pulling in Pranav Kedia, who's driven the delta encoding
    work (reference [2]).
    -- Randy
    On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 8:00 PM, Randy Smith
    <rds...@chromium.org <javascript:> <mailto:rds...@chromium.org

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        Adding in the SDCH protocol list, as folks on that list may
        have ideas about copyright status of the spec.
        -- Randy
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