Re: [Passport] Digest for PassportOwners@googlegroups.com - 7 updates in 1 topic

[Robert Settle]

As a North sailmaker/racer (back in the day) I second Billy Manana's remarks. Get that chain out of the bow!

If at all possible get the polar chart for the Passport 40 (should be public somewhere) so you can understand your designs best point of sail for the wind range and sails you are flying. Go get em!!

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wi...@appletonproperties.com: Jun 07 10:36AM -0700 Our beloved Passport 40 #146 will be racing in her first regatta this weekend in the PHRF Spinnaker Cruising class. The race is a distance race of between 10-20 miles around government marks and unfortunately will have a long upwind leg down the Chesapeake Bay into a southerly breeze. Though Bob Perry has referred to racing P40's as "dualing tubas" do any other owners have advice or experiences that might help us pull off an unexpected triumph? Does it really pay to offload the anchor and rode? Should I drain my water tanks? Any tricks of the trade or observations would be helpful or just amusing! Thanks in advance and wish us luck.   Best   Will Fastow Artax P40 (146)

Michael Moradzadeh <m...@yachtpc.com>: Jun 07 10:49AM -0700 A passport is a fine race boat, particularly if the wind is up.   Some hints from ten thousand miles raced on Cayenne:   1. Read the sailing instructions. 2. Get the bottom cleaned (worth half a knot) 3. Fly the right headsail. Be willing to change sails. 4. Watch your main trim. Proper outhaul and traveller settings can make a huge difference. 5. Do not try to outpoint the slim racers. We are a different animal. 6. Put your crew on the rail. Standing more upright is faster 7. Sure, take the anchor and rode off the bow, but carry them on the boat. Don't be foolhardy 8. Lock your prop. If it's a folding prop, lock it so that neither blade droops down. 9. If the wind is going to be less than eight knots, well, maybe you should go see a movie or something.

Larry Rovin <lro...@crudenbaypartners.com>: Jun 07 05:55PM Unfortunately our experience mirrors Michael’s, especially on the Chesapeake. If the wind is under 8-10 you actually are lucky to have a long upwind leg as she will do reasonably well with the right sail trim, but it’s not your day. 10-15, pay attention and you could do well. Over 15 and you are going to cause some trouble on the racecourse!   From: passpor...@googlegroups.com [mailto:passpor...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Moradzadeh Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 1:50 PM To: Passpor...@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Passport] Racing....     A passport is a fine race boat, particularly if the wind is up.   Some hints from ten thousand miles raced on Cayenne:   1. Read the sailing instructions. 2. Get the bottom cleaned (worth half a knot) 3. Fly the right headsail. Be willing to change sails. 4. Watch your main trim. Proper outhaul and traveller settings can make a huge difference. 5. Do not try to outpoint the slim racers. We are a different animal. 6. Put your crew on the rail. Standing more upright is faster 7. Sure, take the anchor and rode off the bow, but carry them on the boat. Don't be foolhardy 8. Lock your prop. If it's a folding prop, lock it so that neither blade droops down. 9. If the wind is going to be less than eight knots, well, maybe you should go see a movie or something.   On 6/7/2016 10:36 AM, wi...@appletonproperties.com<mailto:wi...@appletonproperties.com> wrote: Our beloved Passport 40 #146 will be racing in her first regatta this weekend in the PHRF Spinnaker Cruising class. The race is a distance race of between 10-20 miles around government marks and unfortunately will have a long upwind leg down the Chesapeake Bay into a southerly breeze. Though Bob Perry has referred to racing P40's as "dualing tubas" do any other owners have advice or experiences that might help us pull off an unexpected triumph? Does it really pay to offload the anchor and rode? Should I drain my water tanks? Any tricks of the trade or observations would be helpful or just amusing! Thanks in advance and wish us luck.   Best   Will Fastow Artax P40 (146) -- -- Passport Owners Association http://passportyachts.org To post to the group, use "reply all" or send email to Passpor...@googlegroups.com<mailto:Passpor...@googlegroups.com> To reply to just the author, just use "reply: For more options, go to http://groups.google.com/group/PassportOwners?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Passport Owners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to PassportOwner...@googlegroups.com<mailto:PassportOwner...@googlegroups.com>. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.   -- -- Passport Owners Association http://passportyachts.org To post to the group, use "reply all" or send email to Passpor...@googlegroups.com<mailto:Passpor...@googlegroups.com> To reply to just the author, just use "reply: For more options, go to http://groups.google.com/group/PassportOwners?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Passport Owners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to PassportOwner...@googlegroups.com<mailto:PassportOwner...@googlegroups.com>. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Brian Heineken <plane...@gmail.com>: Jun 08 02:02AM +0800 We won a race on our P51! With full fuel, water and the dinghy on the back. Symmetrical spinnaker did it for us. Everyone else was gybing back and forth and we were drinking champagne and cruising straight through. Best of luck to you. Let us know how you get on.   Cheers.   Sent from my iPhone

Chris - Pelican <pel...@svpelican.com>: Jun 07 11:23AM -0700 Depending on the wind, you can have a huge advantage. We did a race on Lake Champlain where we came in first in our class (non-spinnaker) and fifth overall (all classes, corrected time). The wind was blowing 20-25 and everyone else had to reef or throw smaller sails on. We powered through. I still remember three J105's at the finish yelling at us as they jockeyed for the line - "We're racing - watch out!" I yelled back "We're racing too, and we're not moving!" from our P40 laden with the anchor, BBQ grill on the stern and full tanks. Here are some pics: http://gallery.svpelican.com/v/non-art/passport40/regatta/   A few tips:   - Based on the wind, dump or fill your tanks. Full tanks can give you an advantage in heavier winds. - I wouldn't bother pulling your anchor off. In the scheme of things it probably won't buy you much vs. your saved time. - Don't pinch. Once again, don't pinch. Unless of course you have to in order to make a mark. - Fight fight FIGHT for a higher PHRF rating. I don't remember what ours was, but we argued that we were a semi-custom boat so one rating doesn't fit them all, and that we had cruising gear, anchor, 250 feet of chain, full tanks. You can also argue older sails if you haven't updated them for a while, non-folding prop if you don't have a folding prop, and if you have any other weight based items or performance slowing items that might not be considered in a "stock" PHRF rating. The thing about PHRF ratings is that they are generated based upon a significant number of boats racing hundreds or thousands of times. That just isn't the case with a P40, so it helps you out a bit. Passports will win or lose based on PHRF ratings. - Understand the rules of the race and of racing in general. Overlap, buoy room, penalties. - Have the marks predefined as waypoints in your chartplotter (I still remember the LORAN days of racing, but not before). If there's a last minute course change you won't have time to enter the changes quickly. - If you are in the right, do not move for other racers just because they are on more "competitive" boats like J's. They always want you to get out of the way, especially at the start, but you're racing too. - I always enjoy putting a fishing rod on the stern just to frustrate the other racers (no line in the water.. just make it look like you're fishing).   Have fun and good luck!   Chris s/v/ Pelican Passport 40 #76   On Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 1:36:33 PM UTC-4, wi...@appletonproperties.com wrote:

rickc...@aol.com: Jun 07 05:49PM -0400 Lots of excellent advice coming your way from fellow "tuba sailors." A thought: if you've got similar tanks to ours, 130 gal of water = 1083lb + 70 gal of diesel = 455 lb. Would you invite 8 big guys to sit on the cabin floor doing nothing during the race?? That's not exactly like "meat on the rail" to keep you upright.   Rick Cooley Drambuoy (136)             -----Original Message----- From: will <wi...@appletonproperties.com> To: Passport Owners <Passpor...@googlegroups.com> Sent: Tue, Jun 7, 2016 10:36 am Subject: [Passport] Racing....       Our beloved Passport 40 #146 will be racing in her first regatta this weekend in the PHRF Spinnaker Cruising class. The race is a distance race of between 10-20 miles around government marks and unfortunately will have a long upwind leg down the Chesapeake Bay into a southerly breeze. Though Bob Perry has referred to racing P40's as "dualing tubas" do any other owners have advice or experiences that might help us pull off an unexpected triumph? Does it really pay to offload the anchor and rode? Should I drain my water tanks? Any tricks of the trade or observations would be helpful or just amusing! Thanks in advance and wish us luck.     Best     Will Fastow Artax P40 (146)   -- -- Passport Owners Association http://passportyachts.org To post to the group, use "reply all" or send email to Passpor...@googlegroups.com To reply to just the author, just use "reply: For more options, go to http://groups.google.com/group/PassportOwners?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Passport Owners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to PassportOwner...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Bill Schmidt <bi...@windwitch.com>: Jun 07 03:03PM -0700 An empty boat always goes fastest. For racing, we always removed all the doors, even the head, and took off all the chain, rode, anchors, even tooth brushes. Good luck.   P.S. Bob Perry wouldn't know a tuba even if it was blowing up his backside.   Billy Manana

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[John Baudendistel]

Fewest tacks and don't forget to maximize current strategy if any.  Many a races are won and lost here on SF Bay due to staying in or out of the current. 

Thanks 

John

[Michael Moradzadeh]

And out of the mud.  Stay out of the mud.  It's slow.

[Bob Peahl]

We move the liquor to the bilge when racing.  Definitely improves the trim.

Bob Peahl

Anthem P40/70

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