Looking for owner feedback on Passport 40/41

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Ross Hoag

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Jul 22, 2015, 2:14:37 PM7/22/15
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Hi all,

I am a new/aspiring member of the group. 

I have been researching cruising boats now for about 6 months and have zeroed in on the Passport 40/41 as the boat that best meets my requirements. I am now in the hunt for a suitable boat. 

I am interested in the good, the bad and the ugly related to these boats given your experience as owners. 

Also interested if anyone may be about to or is in the process of selling? 

I have read many of your posts and done a lot of research on the passports but hearing from actual owners would be extremely helpful. 

Your comments and any feedback would be much appreciated!

Thanks in advance,

Ross

ddockrat

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Jul 22, 2015, 2:26:55 PM7/22/15
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I've owned Caribbean Soul P 40 for 23 years, enough said?
Jon Ash

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psherwood

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Jul 22, 2015, 2:51:33 PM7/22/15
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Ah, another sailor of impeccable taste and good judgment steps to the
fore. ;-)

Here are some points that have emerged in past discussions on this list.
Any of us will gladly go on at excruciating length about any of the
below; don't hesitate to ask:

P40 Cons:

Mild steel rudder cage and plate in the step at the foot of the mast.
Also some embedded mild steel backing plates for padeyes and other hardware.

Knees, some arguably of insufficient size and strength, some compromised
by long-term leaks through the chainplate openings.

Chain plates. The originals (and their bolts) were made of really crappy
steel, or at least mine were, and heated and bent into the hockey-stick
shape. Not good. Check them _very_ carefully for cracks and crevice
corrosion. Backstay chainplate is glassed into the transom.

Chainplate leaks.

Expanding ballast.

Hoses. The shipyard used exhaust hose for everything. Of course by now
the hoses probably should have been replaced with proper ones (e.g.,
sanitation hose for the head, etc) anyway.

Difficulty of installing holding tank Y valve.

Joinery creep (Michael M's phrase) and sticky floorboards. Annoying but
not the end of the world.

P40 Pros:

Sails well, is pretty agile and maneuverable for its displacement.

Excellent engine access; easy engine R&R

Fundamentally very solid hull and deck construction.

Pretty easy to singlehand (I have the basic sloop rig, no inner
forestay, no fancy stuff).

Comfy and spacious to live aboard and cruise in, even for a guy who
stands 6' 6". Lots of nice teak joinery down below.

Spacious galley.

Lots of storage space (for me, anyway), including lots of less obvious
out-of-the-way places and the huge space (the "garage" or "man cave")
under the cockpit.

Pleasing to behold.

Phil
s/v Cynosure ('87, #129)
San Carlos / Seattle
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Ross Hoag

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Jul 22, 2015, 3:40:16 PM7/22/15
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Thanks for the comments. 

So far I have been impressed with the boats I've walked through. Most seem to be well taken care of by their owners. The quality and finish, especially inside, seems really nice.  The more I look the more I like! 

 

Any owners in the Portland OR area who would be willing to show their boat and discuss their experiences with them? 

 

I would love to see as many boats and chat with as many owners as I can, even if your Passport is not for sale.  

 

I would gladly supply the beer, wine or whiskey. 

 

Ross

CAZ

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Jul 22, 2015, 4:25:02 PM7/22/15
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Ross,

We have a Passport 40 & a Passport 41 for sale here in Kemah, Texas. The 41 is absolutely in top shape. The 40 needs much work. Call with any questions.

Bill Caz.
s/v Passport 40, Beau Navire

John Baudendistel

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Jul 22, 2015, 4:40:47 PM7/22/15
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Ross,  

You may want to also consider a Passport42.  Same construction methods. 2' more boat, 30-40% more storage.  We have had ours to Mx and back.  Others are Round the globe veterans.  Peregrine among others.   A cutter rig from the design table vs the P40 sloop.  Let me know if you want more info. 

Thanks 
John Baudendistel
P42
dream Keeper 
Her 30th anniversary this year.  
18 with us. 

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Marty McOmber

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Jul 22, 2015, 6:47:04 PM7/22/15
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Ross Hoag

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Jul 23, 2015, 4:45:51 PM7/23/15
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Looking now...thanks for the tip!

Ross

Michael Moradzadeh

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Jul 23, 2015, 5:09:22 PM7/23/15
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We all love our Passports, some with better reason than others!

I have reluctantly put my 5X to Hawaii vet Passport 40, Cayenne, on the market.

Sloop rig, new rigging, sails, and engine, many extras.  Let me know if you want to know more.

Michael

Ross Hoag

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Nov 13, 2016, 11:57:24 PM11/13/16
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Hi all, it's been year since we ended our search for a Passport! 

We are now the proud owners of a Passport 41 - Pekina (formerly Touche'). 

I spent a lot of time researching before I deciding on the Passport, then 6 months looking at everything that was for sale before we pulled the trigger.

So far she is everything I expected and more.

Backing down is a real learning experience, manageable once we figured out what she will and won't do.

It has been a great year of learning the boat and learning the waters of Tampa Bay. 

Thanks for all the help and advice during our search.

Ross
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