Mail Delivery Subsystem -Delivery Status Notification (Delay)

[Vinodh Kumar]

Hi ,

    I m getting everyday approximately 25 to 30 mails regarding Mail Delivery Subsystem -Delivery Status Notification (Delay), saying that status failure..

    Is this a third party kind of spam mails ? or Is there any way to get rid of this stuff?

[Surekha Shyam]

Hi

The likely problem is that the inbox of the persons whoever you are sending the mails to, is full and not able to hold more than a certain amount of mails or perhaps the email ID is non existent (deleted -not in use anymore). Ask the receiving party to empty their mail box as it may have a limited capacity to hold the number of mails. 

It is also possible that their server has crashed.

This is definitely not a gmail problem. 

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[Marko Vukovic]

Hi Vinodh

On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 2:30 PM, Vinodh Kumar <l.vinodh...@gmail.com> wrote:

I m getting everyday approximately 25 to 30 mails regarding Mail Delivery Subsystem -Delivery Status Notification (Delay), saying that status failure..

    Is this a third party kind of spam mails ? or Is there any way to get rid of this stuff?

A Delivery Status Notification (DSN) is exactly what it says it is, you should probably read them as they are notifying you that emails you have sent are being bounced or delayed for some reason.

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[Kenneth Ayers]

That's potentially a symptom that your account has been hacked and used to send emails to everyone in your contact list including those whose email addresses have changed and are no longer valid.  Check your sent label and see if there are any emails there which you didn't compose yourself.  I've seen the same thing happen in Yahoo! accounts.  I haven't heard of it happening in Gmail before though I don't see why it couldn't.

Kenneth

[Andy]

On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 1:04 AM, Surekha Shyam <shyams...@gmail.com> wrote:

This is definitely not a gmail problem. 

Don't be so quick to say that.

I get messages like that frequently.  In a nutshell, they happen because Gmail is bouncing emails sent from a Google Apps account (mine) to a personal Gmail account (mine).  Gmail bounces them because it thinks they are spam ... and that the spam is so heinous, that it won't even deliver them to my Spam folder.  It flat-out bounces them.  I have no control over that.

There are other reasons why this could be a Gmail (or Google) problem.  Perhaps not, but it could be.

In any event, Vinodh Kumar probably should check into why so many messages he is sending were not delivered, and whether he actually sent so many messages daily or whether his account is compromised.

Andy

[VINOTH RAMADOSS]

Hi Vinodh,

I'm currently facing the same issue ..

Have you come up with any solutions??

If so please do reply..

[Shankar Koorella]

Hi Vinodh,

I'm currently facing the same issue ..

Have you come up with any solutions??

If so please do reply..

Whatever the reason.. i need to stop Mail Delivery Subsystem mails

[Zack (Doc)]

They are either valid e-mails responding to messages you've sent with a bad destination; or are a form of spam by people sending spam with your address as the source, to bad destinations.

What address are they bouncing TO?  IF it's your personalized domain, then you should either set up SPF records or stop sending to the addresses that are failing.  It shouldn't be your gmail account, as they already have SPF records to minimize spoofing.

On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 8:18 AM, Shankar Koorella <sha...@adworldsignages.com> wrote:

Hi Vinodh,

I'm currently facing the same issue ..

Have you come up with any solutions??

If so please do reply..

Whatever the reason.. i need to stop Mail Delivery Subsystem mails

On Monday, December 16, 2013 4:12:45 PM UTC+5:30, VINOTH RAMADOSS wrote:

Hi Vinodh,

I'm currently facing the same issue ..

Have you come up with any solutions??

If so please do reply..

On Tuesday, 1 October 2013 18:00:02 UTC+5:30, Vinodh Kumar wrote:

Hi ,

    I m getting everyday approximately 25 to 30 mails regarding Mail Delivery Subsystem -Delivery Status Notification (Delay), saying that status failure..

    Is this a third party kind of spam mails ? or Is there any way to get rid of this stuff?

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[Réka Szabó]

Dear Kenneth,

I get this message appr. 10 times a day. How can I read the original message or what I can do to not to get this message? Thanks in advance....Réka

[LISTO BENJAMIN]

Hi,


Go to Settings >> Forwarding & POP/IMAP and delete the xxxxxx...@way2sms.com forwarding address from the forwarding settings. 

[Melody Yao Robato]

Hello, 

Have you been able to solve your problem? I have a similar case: Mail Delivery Subsystem - Delivery Status Notification (Failure) sent to addresses that are not in my contact list. These 25 to 30 emails are accompanied by emails with the subject "YOUR DHL NEW DELIVERY NOTIFICATION"

Is there a way to block these? Have already changed my password twice yet it still keeps on happening..

[Zack (Doc)]

That subject line is a spam message, so it's likely nothing to do with your account directly, but a result of the spammer spoofing your address as the from address on his mass mailings.  Is it your gmail account they are bouncing to, or some personal domain.  I would imagine it's a personal domain, and you need to set up SPF and DKIM records to limit the ability of spammers to send mail "from" you.

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[Melody Yao Robato]

Hi Zack, 

That's a relief (sort of). I thought that these spam messages were being sent from my account. 

Below are the "technical details" in the email:

Technical details of permanent failure:

Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the server for the recipient domain aitlbd.net by mail.aitlbd.net. [58.147.168.10].

The error that the other server returned was:

450 4.1.1 <idea...@aitlbd.net>: Recipient address rejected: undeliverable address: unknown user: "idealspn"

You mentioned something about setting up SPF and DKIM records - what are those?

Thank you!

[Marko Vukovic]

On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 5:05 AM, Melody Yao Robato <myr.mo...@gmail.com> wrote:

You mentioned something about setting up SPF and DKIM records - what are those?

Are these bounces coming to your Gmail account or an address at another domain?

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[Francis Mariki]

I am getting this email when i send a text to my Outlook please help!!

Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:

     fma...@vicatel.com

Technical details of permanent failure:

Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the server for the recipient domain vicatel.com by pluto.netcore.co.in. [202.162.242.37].

The error that the other server returned was:

554 5.7.1 <fma...@vicatel.com>: Recipient address rejected: User not found


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        d=gmail.com; s=20120113;
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MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Received: by 10.180.99.105 with SMTP id ep9mr749212wib.26.1415859600540;
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Received: by 10.27.175.85 with HTTP; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 22:20:00 -0800 (PST)
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 09:20:00 +0300
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Subject:
From: Francis Mariki <franc....@gmail.com>
To: fma...@vicatel.com
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[Marko Vukovic]

Hi Francis

On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 9:15 AM, Francis Mariki <franc....@gmail.com> wrote:
> The error that the other server returned was:
> 554 5.7.1 <fma...@vicatel.com>: Recipient address rejected: User not found

This error means that the receiving server (pluto.netcore.co.in) could
not find that mailbox. You will need to speak with your systems
administrator for vicatel.com. This is not an error with Gmail.


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[Michael Bryner]

So it sounds like people are saying there is no way to get rid of these annoying emails, and it says in the emails not to respond, because nothing will happen. If there is nothing we can do, then that is stupid, because it is spamming us for something we can't do anything about. Its just as bad as regular spam. People are chewed out for spamming, then Google does it with these emails. That is so contradicting.

[Andy]

On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 8:33 PM, Michael Bryner <utahm...@gmail.com> wrote:

So it sounds like people are saying there is no way to get rid of these annoying emails, and it says in the emails not to respond, because nothing will happen. If there is nothing we can do, then that is stupid, because it is spamming us for something we can't do anything about. Its just as bad as regular spam. People are chewed out for spamming, then Google does it with these emails. That is so contradicting.

Oh yes you can do something about it.  Don't send emails to people whose email accounts either don't exist anymore, or are behind systems that periodically get shut off.  That's why you get those messages.

It has been standard practice on the Internet for decades, to notify the sender when their email message can't be delivered.  There is probably an Internet standard (RFC) that says so.

Compare it to what happens when you send a letter to someone through postal mail, and it can't be delivered.  It comes back to you, marked "Undeliverable".  Would you call it spam from the Post Office because it comes back to you?  And there's nothing you can do about that either.  (Well, if you had a really friendly relationship with your mail carrier, you could order him to destroy undeliverable letters, and he just might do it; but in the USA I believe they are required to return them to you regardless.)

Me, I would rather receive a 'bounce' or 'delayed' message, than hide my head in the sand and pretend that my message got through when it didn't.

The real question here is, Why are you receiving so many of these emails?  Indeed, why are you receiving any at all?  They are presumably in response to messages you sent, so blame yourself first.

Regards,

Andy

[Randy Harmelink]

These aren't spam messages. GMail is telling him that it can't deliver an email he tried to send. If someone is getting 25 to 30 such emails every day, it would sound to be like THEY are sending out spam -- to invalid email addresses.

[mee_shell]

I too am having the same problem.  But on my detail it's read error.. can anyone help?  I really want to get this fixed.

This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification

THIS IS A WARNING MESSAGE ONLY.

YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESEND YOUR MESSAGE.

Delivery to the following recipient has been delayed:

   =email address here=

Message will be retried for 2 more day(s)

Technical details of temporary failure:
read error

[Andy]

On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 6:03 PM, mee_shell <michell...@gmail.com> wrote:

I too am having the same problem.  But on my detail it's read error.. can anyone help?  I really want to get this fixed.

​Just to be clear, these messages happen because of a problem with the recipient's email account, not yours.  Find out why the person you are sending messages to, can't receive email.  You could call up that person and ask them what's wrong with their email account.

Andy

[Kate Brennan]

Hi,

In the past few days, my gmail account had developed the  same problem as Mee_Shell's. I don't see how it can be a problem with the recipients' email accounts. I emailed three friends at different times with different messages and all three bounced back. What are the chances that three separate individuals would have problems all of a sudden? The common factor has to be my gmail account, surely?

[Andy]

On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 11:01 AM, Kate Brennan <kate.bre...@gmail.com> wrote:

​...

 The common factor has to be my gmail account, surely?

​The common factor may be your Gmail account, but that doesn't mean the cause was your Gmail account.  You yourself were also a common factor, but it doesn't mean you are to blame.

Guys, ladies, it means your message couldn't be delivered!  At least, not right away.  If some link on the Internet between here and there is jammed up or overloaded, or rebooting, stuff doesn't get through.  It happens.

I just received an email alert about weather conditions that were forecast for yesterday morning.  That delivery didn't even use Gmail.  This last week, lots of incoming emails are arriving hours after being sent.​  It would appear there is mucho congestion.

It's a nasty world out there.  With something like 98% of internet traffic being streaming videos, and growing constantly, there will be times when the 'net can't keep up with the demand.  Google doesn't hire mailmen to personally deliver each message to the recipient's accounts; they send it out onto the 'net.  There can be bottlenecks on the way from the sender to the recipient.

When (say) Comcast is having problems with their servers, it wouldn't surprise me if more than one Comcast account is affected by it simultaneously.

Regards,

Andy

[Marko Vukovic]

​Hi Kate​

On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 6:01 PM, Kate Brennan <kate.bre...@gmail.com> wrote:

In the past few days, my gmail account had developed the  same problem as Mee_Shell's. I don't see how it can be a problem with the recipients' email accounts. I emailed three friends at different times with different messages and all three bounced back. What are the chances that three separate individuals would have problems all of a sudden? The common factor has to be my gmail account, surely?

​The subject of this thread refers to a DSN (Delivery Status Notification) about a delay. You say yours bounced. Read the bounce message, it will tell you why your messages could not be delivered.​

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Marko

[Joseph Daoud]

Hello,

My problem is not quite the same, but it sounds like someone here may be able to help. I receive these same emails (DSNs for delays then for failure to deliver) for almost all the emails i send out. They are all for emails i have sent and aren't related to my account being compromised. The strange part is that all the messages seem to be delivered because i receive replies to them before even receiving the DSN. So as far as i can tell i am receiving these notifications for not reason at all.
I assume it has something to do with the fact that i am using an email for a separate domain and having it forward to a gmail address. That gmail address then sends outgoing mail using the domain's SMTP server. This system has worked flawlessly for me for years, and still does, expect with this new account i've just created last week.
I cant seem to figure it out.
Thanks.

[Fariha Newaz]

Hi, im starting to have the same problem and the stuff is in like dutch or something i think google should check this out because i haven't emailed anyone from this acccount in ages

[Marko Vukovic]

On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 9:59 PM, Fariha Newaz <fkitty...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi, im starting to have the same problem and the stuff is in like dutch or something i think google should check this out because i haven't emailed anyone from this acccount in ages

We are not Google.

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Marko

[Fariha Newaz]

Then who are you? And how do we make this stop?

[Zack (Doc)]

He is a fellow GMail user, like yourself (check the name of the group you joined)... and you make it stop by stopping the activity that's causing it to happen...

The better question, is why is this happening.  It's most likely that either your account was hacked, or is being used for spoofing.  If it was hacked, you'll see logins to your account that you don't recognize, and will see sent mail in your account.  Immediately change your password, and check your backup access methods.

If your account is simply being used as a form of spoofing, there's not much you can do.  If the spoofed address is GMail, then it shouldn't be sending the bounces back to you, cause Google publishes SPF and DKIM records.  If it's a private domain, then you should publish SPF and DKIM records.  This won't guarantee that spammers won't fake your address as their from, but should prevent most systems from sending you the bounces.

On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 3:07 PM, Fariha Newaz <fkitty...@gmail.com> wrote:

Then who are you? And how do we make this stop?

[Marko Vukovic]

On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 9:07 PM, Fariha Newaz <

​​

fkitty...@gmail.com> wrote:

Then who are you? And how do we make this stop?

You will notice the group is called 'Gmail-Users', not 'Free Gmail Support' . You will also notice that the description is 'Talk about Gmail, good or bad.' and not 'just dump your problems here and somebody will respond' so if you are needing help, do take the time to type out your situation properly, including full detail and what you have done so far to investigate/troubleshoot.

If some spammer is sending email using your email address then it is possible, as Doc says, that your account is compromised. Other possibilities are that your address is published somewhere publicly and it's been picked up by a Bot, or one of your contacts' computer is infected with malware and that has grabbed your address from them. I couldn't find your address in any web search. If the problem is the latter mentioned, all you can do is delete the DSN messages and eventually they will go away.

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[Peter Vils Hansen]

It's possible that you've been Joe Job'ed: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_job

[Asel Fernando]

Hello

i had the same problem 

this is how i solved 

go to your gmail account (from a PC)

select settings 

select Accounts and imports 

select Send mail as 

Remove the unwanted email address which sends emails via your account 

This worked for me and i no longer get any mail delivery notifications