Re: {Beneteau Owners} Skylight

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DAVID Fletcher

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Aug 27, 2016, 9:34:51 AM8/27/16
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I have redone the lights on our 400. The key was to remove the acrylic lens and get both the lens and the deck clean. Like real clean

 
It took a long time to get all of the old chalk off of tbe deck.

In my case I used Dow 795 black. It is thicker than Sikaflex which runs everywhere. Dow is very strong and still flexible 

A big bead of about 10mm wide and deep. Set the lens in and make sure it has a seal all the way around. Then let it cure overnight before you fill in the ditch and then use a spoon with dish soap to make a nice finished seal.

In removing the glass lots of patience and a sharp thin blade. Work it from the top right at the edge of the lens and from the bottom inside the bottom.cut it horizontal. It should move a bit and then follow along with a sharp blade.

It will take up the best part of day. The cleaning is worth the time to get a good seal.

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Date: 2016-08-27 09:08 (GMT-05:00)
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Subject: {Beneteau Owners} Skylight

Anyone ever rebed a skylight?
Ours is leaking badly. I cleaned out caulking and had an expert re caulk. It leaked worse then ever.
To fix I must remove glass with a chance of breaking. Boatyard will do the job but breakage is possible.
Any ideas or suggestions?

Bill

By the way a new skylight is $1000 plus 8 month wait!!!

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DAVID Fletcher

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Aug 27, 2016, 9:36:59 AM8/27/16
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What model of B do you have. TONY from Select Plastic may be able to make a new lens. He isn't cheap however it will work and be a quicker solution.

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Aug 27, 2016, 3:39:51 PM8/27/16
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I have an Oceanis 440.
The problem with a new lens is that there is a silver ring around the lens. A new one won't match the other side.

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DAVID Fletcher

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Aug 27, 2016, 3:51:22 PM8/27/16
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The silver is a painted on the acrylic surface to keep the adhesive sealant from UV damage
 
Beneteau suggest Kyrlon paint. You can do the new one and the old one at the same time. 

Better yet is to make a very precise hard template. Have two new ones made, pre paint the boarders and then install them and reseal into the well cleaned deck. Select Plastic  have the B green in 3/8 and 1/2 material. 

Any rate take it as input. 

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Aug 27, 2016, 5:39:10 PM8/27/16
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Thanks very much. That is a lot of great info.
Question: is there any liner or such between glass and deck or is it just caulking?

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DAVID Fletcher

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Aug 27, 2016, 6:29:45 PM8/27/16
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As I recall on the 400 there was small rubber trim that fitted between the lens and the inside of the cabin liner. Too hard to put back in place.

In my case I masked off the inner area and formed a nice inside cove with Dow 795. I used a small tongue depresser dipped in dish soap to make the finished product. 

Dow 795 sets up in about 18 hours however it does not fully cure for about 10 days.  Be sure the humidity is no higher than 60 percent fkr the first 24 hours. The good news it does not run on a vertical surface.

Good luck.

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Aug 29, 2016, 12:22:02 PM8/29/16
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What is info on place in Norwalk for glass?
Bill

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DAVID Fletcher

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Aug 29, 2016, 12:54:34 PM8/29/16
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Just Google

SELECT Plastic

Ask for Tony

Kidd, James

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Aug 30, 2016, 11:07:54 AM8/30/16
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Select Plastics, Norwalk CT.

Tony….

 

They have replaced all of my opening ports on my 473.

 

james

 

 

 

James A Kidd

Key Account Manager

jk...@kaydon.com

james....@skf.com

 

617-448-2575 cell/office

231-755-4102 fax

 

www.kaydonbearings.com

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Aug 30, 2016, 5:04:21 PM8/30/16
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Tony says that removing and fixing a 20 year old plastic is almost impossible.
He also thinks it is probably not flat.
Did you replace yours with a flat piece?
Bill

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DAVID Fletcher

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Aug 30, 2016, 5:28:44 PM8/30/16
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MY 400 is flat. Yes yours may he different. Take a steel 18 inch ruler and lay it on the lens edge down. You will soon know if is flat.

In my case I did not replace the lens. I just removed it and cleaned it and re cleaned it and then put it back in 

I am not sure what Tony thinks is wrong with it other than I am certain it is crazed from both the sun and chemicals. 

Tony might not be the world's most positive thinker however he does know how to bill.

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Aug 31, 2016, 12:53:55 PM8/31/16
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Check it out, it is flat. Beneteau verified it!

Thanks,
Bill

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DAVID Fletcher

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Aug 31, 2016, 12:57:25 PM8/31/16
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You can just buy a rough cut piece of the B green from Select Plastic.  Make an accurate template and then get it machined locally. 

It will be the cheapest way to go. 

Mark J Wilme

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Aug 31, 2016, 1:45:04 PM8/31/16
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No chance of cutting and smoothing the edges ones self ?

tough material to work with ?



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Bill Jarvis

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Mark,

 

Like many things it depends on your skills. It’s not difficult to cut but to get a good finish on the edges requires flame polishing. That’s easy to screw up.

 

It is probably better to let the pros do that rather than having to buy a second piece of material!

 

Bill

 

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No chance of cutting and smoothing the edges ones self ?

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If you have the right tools you can do it. You want the edges smooth you need to polish them with a belt or wheel. It would not be my strongest skill set as the lens is not a rectangular shape. 

One would want the corners all nice and true. 
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