Off group topic | wholesale paneer

[Rishi Rao]

Hi all,

I recently visited a friend of mine who is a nutritionist for a fat loss diet and was recommended eggs, chicken, and paneer as protein sources. Other recommendations were rotis, veggies, curd, whole fruits all in moderation.

The numbers given involve a lot pf protein and limiting myself to chicken and eggs would mean that I have to constantly cook. Paneer seemed great on the days or meals I wouldn't feel like cooking. The issue is store brought paneer in Bangalore is 380-400 a kilo!! Over a 100 bucks more than a kg of boneless chicken breasts.

Do let me know if anyone here knows of a place where I can get paneer for 200 odd a kilo. It'd really help me.

[Prashanth Chengi]

Making your own paneer could well work out a whole lot cheaper? It isn't supposed to be all that hard either.. 
A google search pops up several results, including this one:
http://indianhealthyrecipes.com/how-to-make-paneer-cubes-at-home/

/Prashanth

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[Opendro]

I think, your doc would have mostly recommended Robert Atkin's diet which usually recommends low carb and higher fat and protein diet. Colin Campbell has written a book named "Low Carb Fraud", which criticizes the low carb diet for overall long term health.

In a nutshell, what I understood is that many of us eat a lot more than required. Our body got used to this. We derive our energy from carb and the unspent carb/sugar get stored as fat. Since we keep feeding the body with carb continuously/regularly, body keeps relying on the carb as fuel. What we need is to turn the fat burning engine on. A body which has forgotten fat burning can turn the engine on only if we stop feeding carb for a while. This will drive the person weak and cranky as energy will suddenly drop. Body will try to exhaust all its reserves (muscle glycogen and protein), which will make it feel even more horrible. In a matter of few days, body will switch on the fat burning engine and thus start using fat as fuel. Now, extreme weakness would be gone, but strength wouldn't return as yet until we restore the muscles and glycogen. Without enough supply of carb to restore fat and fat engine constantly on, body starts losing a lot more weight/fat.

In my experience and from some reading, all we need to do is to turn the fat burning engine on only once and thereafter eat normal balanced diet. To ensure that fat burner is on regularly, one can do mild (aerobic, heart rate of about 70% of VO2max or 180 minus your age) exercise on an empty stomach for 60 to 90 minutes on a regular basis. A typical athlete calls this as zone 2 base workout which helps in building strength, increase metabolism and prevent bonking (due to sudden lactic acid build up or running out of carb fuel).

Bottom line: I don't think that one needs to stick to the low carb diet for long period to lose weight and it can be counterproductive from an overall health's perspective.

[Rishi Rao]

Low carb was not mentioned. Kept mentioning glycemic indices of various foods and with regards to rate of insulin release from the pancreas. Very factual and scientific.

But, yes I do agree that we eat a lot more than required and in my case, the primary reason for that was comfort. Prior to moving to a big company in Bangalore, I was a part of the film and television industry in Bombay. Work hours averaged from 14-50 hrs depending on deadlines. People have alcohol, weed, tobacco to deal with stress but in my case, it was food. This has done way more damage than the work was worth but hey, one has to earn to live, right?

Bangalore has been great in that I play cricket and table tennis at least once a week and now commute cycling roughly 65-75 kms a week. Add to this, the company is providing Crossfit (bodyweight movements only) 3 times a week at a heavily subsidized rate. 4 weeks in and I feel great! Hopefully, I will able to stick to some sort of a healthy diet and changes may be seen.

Amen to that!

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[Opendro]

I misread that you are trying to increase the protein's proportion which will mean cutting down on carb to maintain the overall calories intake. Paneer, for instance, contains 28% of its calories from protein and 71% of calories from fat. Egg has 62% fat, 32% protein and 6% carb.

Unless one is a body builder, I think 1g protein per kg of body weight should be good. But "per body weight" should be as per the "ideal" body weight. I, for instance, weight 56 kg as of this year for a 5'6" height. I consume roughly about 60g of protein per day from rice/wheat/vegetables/egg/groundnut/fish/chicken/paneer. The rest of my energy is drawn mostly from carb and recently increased fat's proportion in anticipation of a month's survival in the US.

If you are taking protein rich food, I think you won't need a large quantity. For instance, 4 eggs plus wheat will mostly meet the protein requirements.