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I have always hated the look of the OX801D. Not because it is modern or uses outboard bearing bbs, but because the large chainring bolts behind the crank arm spider rather then flush with it. It just looks sloppy and like they redesigned a crank by replacing the outer position with the middle. It could have been done better.
Wow that's a good deal on that Stronglight double you linked. If only someone made a wide-low double at that kind of pricing. IRD's 46/30 is available for around $180, but it uses a 5 bolt spider 94bcd and there's not likely to be easily obtainable replacement rings.
I'm looking to try 44-28 and I've decided to just reuse an older Ultegra octalink triple. I got my bbg bashguard on Friday and have a 130 bcd 44T and a 74 bcd 28T coming hopefully today or tomorrow. I've got one used Ultegra Octalink BB with smooth bearings and another new in the box so i think I'm good with BBs for a while on this setup.
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At the time they weren't selling to the USA. I did the legwork and found an expeditor who had Fedex stop at Spa and pick up the package with the prepaid shipping label and customs forms attached.
Keep in mind that most UK and Euro prices include VAT at 15% or so. You get that as a discount if they ship it to USA.
Joel Niemi
Eh I am 6'7", I already went to 170 on my Rivendell custom I converted because of the 80mm BB drop had gotten the pedals perilously close the tarmac. I had 180s before the conversion.
152 is unacceptable...unless I'm pedaling with my toes or something ;)
That is the only way to make this crank. It is a 110/74 double, so the two chainrings have different BCDs. If you mount the outer chainring to the outside of the spider then the spider would live between the two chainrings, making use of the inner chainring impossible.
If you want a compact double with a 29-34 inner chainring and don't want a 110/74 double you need to go with a 94mm double.
alex
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Eh I am 6'7", I already went to 170 on my Rivendell custom I converted because of the 80mm BB drop had gotten the pedals perilously close the tarmac. I had 180s before the conversion.
152 is unacceptable...unless I'm pedaling with my toes or something ;)
I do ride big flat pedals, VP-001 and I use pedal extenders (kneesavers) as well to take it out yet another 20mm so that's why I take clearance so seriously. My pedals are out there, in more ways than one :)
That is the only way to make this crank. It is a 110/74 double, so the two chainrings have different BCDs. If you mount the outer chainring to the outside of the spider then the spider would live between the two chainrings, making use of the inner chainring impossible.
If you want a compact double with a 29-34 inner chainring and don't want a 110/74 double you need to go with a 94mm double.
alex
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The same "modern" bbs are only available in limited lengths (two?) that limits the shape of the crank arms and spider.
There is no reason to go to a new crank model when there are many of pre-existing, reproduction, or new production runs of cranks that can offer an ultra compact chainring combination.
I like do like Sugino cranks. Would a new version of the PX work with an outboard bearing bottom bracket?