History lesson - let's credit the right man
richard
right? He invented electricity after all. So without Edison, we wouldn't be
watching tv or using our computers. Wrong!
Edison is credited with having created "Direct Current" electricity.
From Budapest came along a brilliant young man Edison employed. Nikoli
Tesla invented many of the machines Edison is associated with. Edison had
hired Tesla to do just that and offered a "fifty thousand dollar bonus".
When the items were created, Edison renigged on the deal and Tesla walked
out.
Appalled at the sight of Edison's DC cables strung all over the city
haphazardly, Tesla figured their must be an easier way. He soon invented
the simple "induction motor" and thusly, created "Alternating Current". AC
cables required a small fraction of the size as compared to DC, and no
subpower booster stations in the system. So without Tesla's invention, most
of which is now commonplace, and wrongfully associated with Edison, would
not be here today.
Oh and about radio? You all know Marconi invented it right? Wrong.
Actually, in order to make his radio work, Marconi used 17 of Tesla's
patents. Even the US supreme court said so in 1943.
Speaking of radio, Tesla also invented radio remote control. In 1917, he
had the concept of "RADAR". 17 years before it was actually built.
Don't believe me? Fine. Watch the show on Tesla on History Channel's
"Modern Marvels".
Tesla was the real genius and nobody gives a shit.
Jordan
>
> You're right st00pid, nobody gives a shit.
How uncharitable!
Richard is moved to tell us about his discovery of a genius, and gets
shot down in flames. Better not be passionate about anything, right?
I read a biography of Nikola Tesla, which made the penny drop as to what
AC and 3 phase power were all about. Before he thunk it up, it weren't
done anywhere.
Jordan
OldGringo38
Two Cents To The richard Post:
> Ok so you all know about the achievements and patents of Thomas Edison
> right?
Thanks for the information Richard. Although it is not top secret
much appreciated, you taking the time to let us all know.
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nobody >
Tesla was (and still is) a very misunderstood man. I often wonder what
greatness he would have achieved had not Edison (and the other Robber
Barons of the early electric industry) marginalized him so.
As with most really great minds, Tesla was prone to being broken by
attacks against what he thought the world was. His penniless and
disjointed end was the result.
Tesla had vision, Edison was a plodding "see if this works" type of
"inventor".
nobody >
> On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 19:38:37 -0500, OldGringo38
> <NoE...@ThisOldHouse.Con> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the information Richard. Although it is not top secret
>> much appreciated, you taking the time to let us all know.
>
> some crap with 'facts' that are totally bogus, watch others argue, and
> just vanish.
>
> He does it all the time with his crap about Steven Segeal, or
> mythbusters, or whatever the latest TV show he watched in his RV or
> motel room.
Evan, unfortunately this time RtS is right on target. There may be some
conjecture on some of the Tesla claims, but most have proved out true
over the years.
richard
All you have to do is watch the program. I didn't just conjur up this stuff
just to get a rise like Evan does. Or do your own research on the web. Most
all of Tesla's stuff is covered somewhere.
As for mythbusters, and tesla, well they actually did a scene about Tesla's
"earthquake" machine. Their resident robotic man, Grant Imahara, actually
had created a device that mimicked Tesla's machine. They applied it to a
bridge and actually got the bridge to vibrate.
Aardvark
> Their resident robotic man, Grant Imahara,
> actually had created a device that mimicked Tesla's machine. They
> applied it to a bridge and actually got the bridge to vibrate.
That's going back a bit.
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Mike Yetto
> All you have to do is watch the program. I didn't just conjur up this stuff
> just to get a rise like Evan does. Or do your own research on the web. Most
> all of Tesla's stuff is covered somewhere.
>
> As for mythbusters, and tesla, well they actually did a scene about Tesla's
> "earthquake" machine. Their resident robotic man, Grant Imahara, actually
> had created a device that mimicked Tesla's machine. They applied it to a
> bridge and actually got the bridge to vibrate.
The myth stated Tesla created a machine that would destroy a
structure by finding is resonant frequency. The MythBusters
managed to debunk (bust) the myth by finding the resonant
frequency and doing nothing more than shaking the bridge.
Pay attention to what you read or watch through to the end. This
way you might actually come to the proper understanding of what
is being said. Your MO is to post here before thinking and
demonstrate your ability to misunderstand anything.
As for Tesla, he was part great engineer and part flakey
occultist. This in no way changes his major importance to modern
life.
Mike "he's still a hero at GE" Yetto
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chuckcar
news:bssstptajggr.7...@40tude.net:
> Ok so you all know about the achievements and patents of Thomas Edison
> right? He invented electricity after all. So without Edison, we
> wouldn't be watching tv or using our computers. Wrong!
>
Bull shit. He was the first to use direct current for lighting. And that
wasn't even his invention. It was done by his paid boffins. Alessandro
Volta discovered electricity.
>
> From Budapest came along a brilliant young man Edison employed. Nikoli
> Tesla invented many of the machines Edison is associated with. Edison
> had hired Tesla to do just that and offered a "fifty thousand dollar
> bonus". When the items were created, Edison renigged on the deal and
> Tesla walked out.
>
> Appalled at the sight of Edison's DC cables strung all over the city
> haphazardly, Tesla figured their must be an easier way. He soon
> invented the simple "induction motor" and thusly, created "Alternating
> Current". AC cables required a small fraction of the size as compared
> to DC, and no subpower booster stations in the system. So without
> Tesla's invention, most of which is now commonplace, and wrongfully
> associated with Edison, would not be here today.
>
> Oh and about radio? You all know Marconi invented it right? Wrong.
> Actually, in order to make his radio work, Marconi used 17 of Tesla's
> patents. Even the US supreme court said so in 1943.
>
> Speaking of radio, Tesla also invented radio remote control. In 1917,
> he had the concept of "RADAR". 17 years before it was actually built.
>
> Don't believe me? Fine. Watch the show on Tesla on History Channel's
> "Modern Marvels".
>
> Tesla was the real genius and nobody gives a shit.
>
Aside from anyone who's actually heard of him.
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thund3rstruck
>
> All you have to do is watch the program. I didn't just conjur up this stuff
> just to get a rise like Evan does. Or do your own research on the web. Most
> all of Tesla's stuff is covered somewhere.
>
> As for mythbusters, and tesla, well they actually did a scene about Tesla's
> "earthquake" machine. Their resident robotic man, Grant Imahara, actually
> had created a device that mimicked Tesla's machine. They applied it to a
> bridge and actually got the bridge to vibrate.
Not surprising to me since Tesla was ahead of his time. Others now are
beginning to see this too, and I suspect that eventually, he'll have his
legitimate place in History...
n0i
philo
I've done a lot of reading on both Tesla and Edison...
and there is no doubt that Edison was wrong by thinking DC power was the
way to go...Tesla was a true genius and quite correct concerning the
practicality of AC.
OTOH: Edison is often portrayed as a hard worker but not so bright...
that is not correct either...as he knew what he was doing...he was both
a genius and a hard worker...he was just wrong as far as his idea for DC
power distribution.
BTW: Here is a true story about Edison's invention (or perfection) of
the ticker tape.
He sold it to a business executive (wish I could recall who) for $40,000
In today's money that would easily have been a million dollars or more.
Years later...the business exec and Edison met up and the exec told
Edison that he was not much of a business man...as he was actually
prepared to pay up to $80,000 for the invention.
Edison quickly replied that in actuality...it was the business exec who
was the poor business man.
"Why is that?" he asked.
"Because" , replied Edison, "I was going to ask $3500!"
NotMe
"philo" <ph...@privacy.invalid>
>
> OTOH: Edison is often portrayed as a hard worker but not so bright...
> that is not correct either...as he knew what he was doing...he was both a
> genius and a hard worker...he was just wrong as far as his idea for DC
> power distribution.
The explanation will be apparent if you follow the money. Edison owned the
patent on DC but not on AC.
philo
There is another story (don't know if it's true) but it demonstrates the
facts pretty well.
Henry Ford and Edison were supposedly friends...
and when the whole AC vs DC battle began...Ford decided that his plant
would be power by DC.
Due to the extreme power loss encountered by the relatively low voltage
DC...it would have been close to impossible to come up with enough
copper to wire the plant...much less pay for it.
For those unfamiliar with power transmission...
there is a tremendous amount of power loss if low voltage is used...
so high-voltage transmission is required. The voltage can easily be
stepped down with a transformer. A transformer requires AC!
At the time of Edison there were no DC to DC converters other than
expensive and inefficient motor-generators.
Desk Rabbit
> Ok so you all know about the achievements and patents of Thomas Edison
> right? He invented electricity after all.
WRONG! Nobody invented electricity, it's always been there. It was
discovered.
OldGringo38
> On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 19:38:37 -0500, OldGringo38
> <NoE...@ThisOldHouse.Con> wrote:
>
>> much appreciated, you taking the time to let us all know.
>
> some crap with 'facts' that are totally bogus, watch others argue, and
> just vanish.
>
> He does it all the time with his crap about Steven Segeal, or
> mythbusters, or whatever the latest TV show he watched in his RV or
> motel room.
guess the reply went into outer space. It read something like this,
I now understand about your Two Musketeers, good luck. :)