How can we show that the tensor expression is identically zero?

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Pavel Petrov

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Apr 5, 2025, 6:21:38 AM4/5/25
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Dear All,

How can I show that the expression in the screenshot is identically zero?

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I have attached the screenshot and a file with my attempts.

Thank you very much in advance.  
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Thomas Bäckdahl

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Apr 5, 2025, 7:34:20 AM4/5/25
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Hi!

First of all. I don't think you need to express F in terms of A for this simplification.

It looks like you need several complicated multi-term symmetries here. Unfortunately, we don't have very good tools to handle this in general in tensor language.
For this reason I usually use spinors instead. I quickly solved your problem in spinor language. Unfortunately, I didn't have time to make it very pedagogical, but at least it simplifies to zero.

Let me know what you think.

Regards
Thomas
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Pavel Petrov

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Apr 6, 2025, 3:18:59 PM4/6/25
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This  is weird. Seems that in my version of xAct the code works differently. 
I get the xAct package from this webcite, quite recently. xAct: Efficient tensor computer algebra for the Wolfram Language
What could cause the problem ? 

Best regards, 
Pavel

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суббота, 5 апреля 2025 г. в 20:34:20 UTC+9, Thomas Bäckdahl:

Thomas Bäckdahl

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Apr 6, 2025, 3:42:08 PM4/6/25
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Hi!

It is difficult to see from pictures what is going on.
There could be something that I have fixed on my private versions.

I attach my latest versions of the m-files here. Please let me know if it works. They might also be interesting for other people.
If it makes a difference I think we should make an update to the released files.

If it doesn't work, you can send a private email to me with a notebook.

Regards
Thomas
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