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Wifi75

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Jun 9, 2020, 9:35:53 AM6/9/20
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Hello I am using OpenSprinkler-Weather service i configured weewx as below:
I have a doubt: if I also enter the user and the key, can I also use the same code to send the data to the WU?

 [[Wunderground]]
        enable = true
        station = MY Station id?
        password = My key ?
        server_url = http://<IP>:<PORT>/weatherstation/updateweatherstation.php
        rapidfire = False
 

gjr80

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Jun 9, 2020, 8:20:32 PM6/9/20
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Hi,

I don't know what you mean by the 'OpenSprinkler-Weather service'. Are you just wanting WeeWX to upload data to WeatherUnderground? Is the config snippet you posted from the [StdRESTful] stanza in weewx.conf, if so there should be no need to specify server_url.

It might help if you explained your setup in more detail and described exactly what you are trying to do/what is not working.

Gary

Chris Richmond

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Jun 10, 2020, 8:58:02 AM6/10/20
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Gary,

OpenSprinkler runs a simple cloud service where your unit sends your location and it returns the percentage of your sprinkler
program to run based on recent precipitation and the forecast for your area.  I use a custom report to get precipitation
for the last 2 days in weewx,and ported this service to run locally, pulling forecast data from OWM and DS, and the local precip.

I don't understand the original question either.

Chris

Xant

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Jun 11, 2020, 7:57:37 PM6/11/20
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WiFi75

Your posting is REALLY timely in my case...

As an early adopter of HomeAutomation, I have my lawn serviced by Cyber-Rain... really "high-tech" among my neighbors at that time, but the original Company sold a couple year ago and sending "end-of-life" notices - as their services, depends on their cloud Hosting services to function, otherwise the lawn will fry...

So, what's going on with Cyber-Rain (http://www.cyber-rain.com), now Galcon.

1) Microsoft Silverlight
"Microsoft Silverlight is a deprecated application framework for writing and running rich Internet applications, similar to Adobe Flash. A plugin for Silverlight is still available for some browsers." As today, only IE would support it.
The requirement of Silverlight, shows that NO further development was performed towards Cyber-Rain application.

2) Cyber-Rain apps
Outdated, flawed...

There are MANY more tech difficulties just to have the Sprinkles to work... but no need to mention... Cyber-Rain is gone, and I need a Replacement. Unfortunately, another good hardware to go to pile... (and $).

Back to "options"... as I'm researching for Stable and Most connected option...

A) OpenSprinkler
Its promising... based on RPi, but still into to early call. And don't want to spent more $ to hardware that would have short live....

B) "Any" Sprinkler
Current sided to Rachio 3e, for price and connectivity. with a close call by RainMachine.

Feedbacks are welcome, towards WeeWX and HomeAssistant connectivity.

Xant

Pat

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Jun 12, 2020, 8:55:11 AM6/12/20
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I've been using OpenSprinkler Pi (the DIY version) for 5 years and have never had a problem with it. I was an early adopter with the hardware (interestingly enough, the creator is local to me though we've never met). 

Best part is no cloud dependencies and reliable timing. No problems at all here. I turn the Pi off over the winter to save the SD card from un-needed usage. 

Chris Richmond

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Jun 12, 2020, 9:53:05 AM6/12/20
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On Friday, June 12, 2020 at 6:55:11 AM UTC-6, Pat wrote:
Best part is no cloud dependencies and reliable timing. No problems at all here. I turn the Pi off over the winter to save the SD card from un-needed usage. 

Pat, by default (these days anyway), the UI code and the forecasting feature are cloud hosted, although the UI
is just a web directory and is available to use locally, and the forecast piece (percentage adjustments) can also be hosted locally
if you want that included, aside form the fact you have to query a forecast service for that data.  I ran one for a couple of years and
didn't have any problems other than RPi/DNS sorts of things, but those are my fault, not the product.  I'm going to be buying another
one shortly, since I moved and left the other one behind.  I added a cheap SSD and USB<->SSD adapter to avoid SD card issues.

Chris

Wes Witt

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Jun 12, 2020, 10:33:07 AM6/12/20
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the current opensprinkler uses esp8266 not rpi. it looks like a pretty polished product.

Pat

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Jun 12, 2020, 10:35:07 AM6/12/20
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Interesting. No aspects of my OSPi are cloud hosted except for the forecasting - which I'm not using since I don't use the Zimmerman methods or anything. My app version is 2.2.0 and firmware is 2.1.9 (3). 

I do not have my system connected to opensprinkler.com in any fashion (I'm not even logged in). So I'm 100% local only. 

Pat

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Jun 12, 2020, 10:35:54 AM6/12/20
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For reference, you can still buy the OpenSprinkler Pi project if you wanted to DIY it (like what I have)  https://opensprinkler.com/product/opensprinkler-pi/  

Mike Wren

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Jun 12, 2020, 11:01:09 AM6/12/20
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I'm a big fan of RainMachine, and have installed three so far for family and friends - The WeeWx integration works perfectly for hourly updates. It's a very clean product (hardware, web UI, iOS app). I'm normally a DIY guy and have lots of Pi's around the house automating various things, but for the home irrigation, I don't regret at all going with a turnkey solution.

Happy to answer any questions you have about RainMachine.


Mike Wren
Albany, NY

Xant

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Jun 13, 2020, 5:49:03 PM6/13/20
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Mike

Agree. Greetings for those going DIY, but in this case will go turnkey as well.

Per my recent research, Rachio tops most of reviews, but some complains about Advertising inside own app to other company products. On the other side, RainMachine owners feedback are most positive (like yourself). And... extensive connectivity to HomeAssistant, WeeWX, among others...., while data remains local - "cloudless" (to note, the weewx link seems to be written by HomeMachine own developers).

RainMachine Mini-8 ($159) announced End-Of-Life, leaving only their most expensive options available. But still, I may go this route...

Xant
(your neighbor at Clifton Park/NY)

G Hammer

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Jun 15, 2020, 11:58:44 AM6/15/20
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Put me down as a happy RainMachine user.
You have the direct from WeeWX capability or if you feed data to Aeris, the ability to use their API to get the data.
No cloud required if you don't wish, capable if you do.

I didn't like that other commercial brands required internet to function as advertised. Didn't want to cobble a homebrew controller. RainMachine was (and is I think) my sole choice.
I have a Mini-8 but as you say it has been discontinued in favor of the Pro-8

Xant

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Jun 16, 2020, 2:57:50 PM6/16/20
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Confirms that besides Rachio been top list from most "techy sites", the RainMachine Owners feedback are most positive (it seems, specially for WeeWX enthusiasts).

It's interesting to note that although "everything" is moving to Cloud, RainMachine advertise of "cloudless" as an extra feature.At first, it seems innocuous marketing, but indeed an interesting feature for those (like WeeWX community), that look forward to more data control. In fact, the company transition of Cyber-Rain, Cloud dependency and lack of further development, it whats killing my original - and still hardware functioning - irrigation control.

Mini- 8 EOL. Pro-8 was back-ordered, but now shipped (although pricey).

Connectivity note:
  • Cyber-Rain: WeeWX, HomeAssistant
  • Pro-8: the only model I could identify (among RainMachine and Rachio) with both LAN wired and wireless capability
Although I now have to consider a wire through garage walls the direct wired connection is of interest, since I suffered before with On/Off frequent procedure to Cyber-Rain WiFi bridge.

G Hammer

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Jun 16, 2020, 3:06:36 PM6/16/20
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Mind you, I have a pair of ASUS routers in AP mode, but even with just one I have not had any lost WiFi in the years I've run my Mini-8.

Chris Richmond

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Jun 17, 2020, 9:05:16 AM6/17/20
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In my new house, I've had to resort to ethernet over powerline units.  I got TP-Link this time, and it works just fine.
Well, aside from when the power goes out.  Also had to scatter UPS's in a few spots since the TV and phone are
both on the network.  Missed the fact that the powerline adapters drop with the power, and can't put them on UPS
since that would filter off the network signaling.
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