Program crashes during (and a few questions on the way)

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Nick Schafstall

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Nov 22, 2024, 4:24:57 PM11/22/24
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Hi everyone,

I'm a postdoc in paleoecology and Quaternary entomology and new to SDM. I think Wallace is a great platform to start with SDM, but unfortunately I'm getting stuck.

I managed to upload the csv file with around 20 occurences from gbif, plus the site where I identified the species from a 1000-year-old sediment record. I renamed that species so that I can compare the two 'species'.

I get the datapoints of the two species on the map, I exclude a data point from very close to Kharkiv and one in the south of Italy, and draw a polygon for a large part of Europe. I try to only draw on land. 

Question in between: In the Env Space tab, selected Environmental Ordination, I can plot Occurrences only but I can also plot  Occurrences + Background. So what is this Background? Data from the whole polygon that I drew?

Anyway, a beautiful point cloud appears. I get to the tab Partition Occs. I choose Spatial Partition because I definitely think that sampling biases have occurred.But here it crashes! Boom! Bang! Grey!

And I think, the reason is that species #2 only has one data point. I did the partition for species #1 (gbif occurrences) and it works. When I run for species #2 (checkerboard, can't choose less than 2 partitions) it starts loading and then crashes. 

Q2: How to get around this problem? Can I skip partition occurrences in this case?

further on, I get the error message that I can't build the model without partitioning the occurrences for the one datapoint second species.

So, please, what do I do? Is there a minimum number of data points that have to be there for each species? Could I in that case just add fake data points close to the real data point? Won't those be eliminated for being in the same grid cell?


Regards,
Nick Schafstall
Dapsa denticollis GBIF+fossil.csv

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Nov 22, 2024, 4:35:13 PM11/22/24
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Hi Nick,
It was great meeting you today at the workshop.
You need at least 3 points to build a model in Wallace, this is probably why you are having complications. You also unfortunately cannot skip the partition step- this is how ENMeval gets the testing and training data to build and evaluate the model.

And you are correct that making a second and third point as duplicates of the one you have will have Wallace remove them as duplicates. But I cannot say for certain it would be valid to make approximate points nearby to be able to build a model.

Bethany Johnson

Nick Schafstall

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Nov 23, 2024, 10:09:42 AM11/23/24
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Hi Bethany,

Thank you for the clarification. Then I know what to do :)

Best regards,
Nick

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Department of Forest Management
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Czech University of Life Sciences

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