Herdsmen Hoist Flag In Orin-Ekiti, Near Fayemi’s Hometown [ Terrorism by Right Wing Fulani in Nigeria]

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Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju

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Herdsmen Hoist Flag In Orin-Ekiti, Near Fayemi’s Hometown



Some suspected herdsmen have reportedly taken over some areas covering about 8km in Orin-Ekiti, Ido/Osi local government area of Ekiti State near Governor Kayode Fayemi’s hometown, Isan-Ekiti..

The Nation gathered that the herders hoisted a red flag at the ‘annexed’ farmlands where they warned farmers to keep off or face death.

Residents told journalist on Wednesday during a protest that the herders occupied and destroyed crops planted on the abandoned 2500 acres of land at Orin Farm settlement.

The protesters, comprising old and young men and women, chanted derisive songs against the invaders with placards bearing their thoughts and agitations including ‘What is our sin?’; ‘Enough is Enough’; ‘Save Orin Ekiti from herdsmen invasion’; ‘We are tired of molestation by herdsmen’; ‘Government must relocate Fulani Herdsmen’, among others.

While addressing journalists, the Onikare of Orin-Ekiti, Chief Bamidele Fasuyi, alleged one Emmanuel Ilori had been allegedly killed by suspected herders while the Tiv people farming in the town were chased away.

He regretted that the suspected herdsmen, had destroyed crops worth over N50million belonging to 70 farmers.

“What they wanted is to invade our land and chase us away. They even killed one of our able bodied men this year. They are imposing some curfew in this town, because our youths can’t go to farm freely and government has not been doing something. Several hectares of land had been destroyed. They used to operate at night with AK 47 rifle.

“Over 70 farmers were affected in our record. Crops worth N50 million have been ravaged . They ate up their products like Coco yam, yam, cassava and others and made them to incur debts.

“We appeal to government to use the 2500 acres of land for farming. The state and federal government as well as private bodies should come to our aid. There were facilities like electricity, buildings and equipment that can aid farming if they want to invest “.

A youth leader, Mr. Omotoso Mathew Kayode, alleged that the suspected herders had hoisted a flag at the farm settlement, where they warned the farmers to keep off or face death.

“They wrote keep off with a picture of a cattle rearer on the flag. This is a serious threat. The police , NSCDC and soldiers removed the flag last year but they had hoisted another one.

“We used to do night guard to ward off attack,because the police had found it difficult to arrest them. Our graduates who have no jobs were going into farming but they are suffering losses because of destruction by cows.

“They must vacate the place. Governor Kayode Fayemi must relocate them. From our findings, they used to enter into this place from neighbouring towns like Isan, Ayede and Ido and we are suspecting conspiracy .There may be famine in the land with the way things are going .

“We are not compromising our stand on this relocation. Chief Obafemi Awolowo-led government in the old Western region acquired the land in 1958 for arable farming and not for cattle ranching”.

Omotoso, however, appealed to Fayemi to assist them in getting back their farmland and compensate the farmers.

He further urged the state government to provide adequate security in the community, noting residents could no longer sleep with two eyes closed as they all live in trepidation.

The Oniwaro of Orin, Chief Mathew Oke, said Fayemi should comply with his promise to build a police station in the town and rejuvenate the farm settlement to ward off herdsmen invasion in the area.



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Salimonu Kadiri

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​The other time when I deployed the words, stupidity quotient (SQ) to rate the illogicality of a certain pronouncement on this forum, Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju smartly, but not cleverly, erased the word quotient and uplifted only stupidity to make it look as if I was being abusive. Every human being has a degree of stupidity quotient in him or her but unlike IQ, the lower the rate of SQ, the better for the person and his/her neighbour. The report written by one Rasaq Ibrahim from Ado Ekiti exhibits highest rate of SQ that, even if the Nation's newspaper published it for sensational and commercial reasons, it ought not to be published on a forum where people who do not regard the human head only as a hat-shelf but as a thinking faculty. Consider the following assertions.

​Some suspected herdsmen have reportedly taken over some areas covering about 8km in Orin-Ekiti, Ido/Osi local government area of Ekiti near Governor Kayode Fayemi's hometown, Isan-Ekiti -Reporter, Rasaq Ibrahim. If​ herdsmen had actually taken over the said land area, they would physically be identified in the occupied land area. As reported by Rasaq Ibrahim, it would appear as if the land occupiers in Orin-Ekiti are (ghosts) invincible) herdsmen which is why they are only only suspected as herdsmen. The reporter stated that the areas taken over in Orin-Ekiti by the invincible herdsmen cover about 8 kilometres. Land area is always measured in square metres or kilometres. If we assume that the reporters intention was to say that 8 square kilometres land area was forcibly occupied by herdsmen in Orin-Ekiti, then, we need to know the numerical strength of alien forces needed to accomplish the annexation. Only a person with a very high rate of stupidity quotient will believe that some ghost-herdsmen are capable of occupying 8 square kilometres of land at Orin-Ekiti.

​…. the herders hoisted a red flag at the 'annexed farmlands' where they warned farmers to keep off or face death - Rasaq Ibrahim. A picture of a red rag hanging on top of a branch of a wild-growing tree was shown but no single herder was present and the warning notice to farmers to keep off or face death was nowhere to be seen.

​Residents told journalist on Wednesday, during a protest, that the herders occupied and destroyed crops planted on the abandoned 2,500 acres of land at Orin Farm Settlement - Nation's Reporter.
​The Orin Farm Settlement was created by the Western Region government of yesteryears and inherited by the present day Ekiti State government. If the land, about 2,500 acres had been abandoned, it still remains the property of Ekiti State government and no one has the right to occupy it without the approval of the government. No crops could have been planted on the abandoned Orin Farm Settlement for the occupying ghost-herders to destroy.

​Whenever Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju hears the word *herdsmen* he gets wet dream with Fulani people. The report written by Rasaq Ibrahim was captioned by the Natio newspaper as, Herdsmen Hoist Flag in Orin-Ekiti, Near Fayemi's Hometown.

​Nowhere​ in the report was Fulani mentioned but Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju in his wet dream added the following to the headline without the consent of the author of the article or the Nation Newspaper : Terrorism by Right Wing Fulani in Nigeria. That's a fraud.
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Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju

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i rushed to see if Kadiri has anything substantial to contribute on this existential crisis.

as usual, its the same clutching at straws of self deception as the nation is poised at  an incendiary junction through terrorism by right wing Fulani.

the nay sayers began in 2015 with

the massacres by these figures never happened

they then moved to

even if it happened it cant be proven the killer herdsmen are fulani

after miyetti allah Fulani socio cultural organisation made a point  of justifying the massacres, their response was

either silence, efforts to dilute the strategy of verbal plus armed terror, to trying to exonerate miyetti allah

when the govt awarded miyeti allah billions ostensibly to stop their members who had expanded their criminal scope from terrorism through raiding communities to kidnapping for ransom 

these people either maintained silence or made non-committal responses

ex president obj cried out abut the nation wide right wing fulani crisis, directing the fulani nigerian national ruler to configurations justifying people's fears of a strategy leading to a 'fulanisation of nigeria' 

they declared that obj was playing politics

SW monarchs cried out that their lands had been laid siege to by Fulani herdsmen and fulani kidnappers

these people asked for the evidence that such widely reported comments in the media were made or asked for evidence these widely identified criminal elements  were fulani

shehu sani, a Fulani senator, tried to address the issue by dialogue with his fellow fulani, obj did the same in dialogue with fulani representatives

these people pretended not to notice

internationalism terrorism monitoring agencies, citing attacks and clearly identified casualties  mapped across the years in yearly reports since nigeria's fulani national ruler came to power in 2015, describe fulani miltia as the worlds fourth deadliest terror group

these people pretend such reports do not exist

when in the name of God, will the ethnic constituents of this country be able to decide whether or not, and under what conditions,  to remain in the deadly contraption that is nigeria?

the tinubu controlled SW has jettisoned the restructuring vision they once championed bcs they want to occupy aso rock, therefore jettisoning their own vision to avoiding  alienating the political power represented  by the right wing muslim north who dont want any change to a system they have cornered

the SE  politicians are salivating for the chance to reach aso rock

the SS is paralyzed, swimming in desperate internal politics of guzzling public wealth

edo and delta are afraid 

toyin

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As everybody knows, “when something's not right it's wrong” and that’s why for all the reasons advanced so far, the case that Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju has been making all along has to be taken seriously – by the Federal Government and the state government’s local authorities, as encroachments and illegal occupation have been and are steadily extending southwards.

A year ago when my Edo friend just back from a home visit complained  - exclaimed that he saw some Fulani herders armed with AK 47s grazing their cows on his farm, I was inclined to disbelieve him, asked him for some photos that he could have taken with his cell phone camera, but he couldn’t produce that kind of evidence. And now, still no video footage of the allegations but reading about the escalation to the point where either emboldened by having a fellow Fulani tribesman acting as their protective friend and president – as Toyin’s allegations attest/ suggest, or desperate ( about their livelihood) it has got to the point where in language reminiscent of the West Bank and what the Palestinians refer to as Settler colonialism, “the herders hoisted a red flag at the 'annexed' farmlands where they warned farmers to keep off or face death.”  This mini-state within a state would be unbelievable and even funny if the matter was not so serious. Next stage, after hoisting their flag, the Fulani herdsman complete their annexation  of Ekiti territory by drawing up their own borders and boundaries, and if their neighbours are not careful, they will soon start paying jizya to the local Caliph of their Fulani herdsmen government.

Without apology, the law has to protect private property. As Baba Kadiri, himself the Fulani herdsmen chief apologist in this forum can confirm, in Sweden, we have what’s known as Allemansrätt ( self-explanatory – the “freedom to roam”) but that does not include e.g. Baba Kadiri or any of Sweden’s Fulani herdsmen the right to graze their cattle/ herds on somebody else’s private, vegetable garden. So, why should it be permitted in Nigeria – or why should Nigeria’s law enforcement turn their gaze away from such encroachments on other people’s property? On their part (Nigerian law enforcement) isn’t that really a dereliction of duty, or should we merely accept such transgressions and explain/ protest with a “but Nigeria is not Sweden”?

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​Mr. Adepoju, you are supposed to be commenting on my response to the Nation newspaper's report titled, "Herdsmen Hoist Flag in Orin-Ekiti, Near Fayemi's Hometown," 

​filed by Rasaq Ibrahim. Please tell us, where in the report was it mentioned that the hoisters of the red rag called flag were, according to your addition, Right Wing Fulani Terrorists in Nigeria.Can you show us the picture of the herdsmen who have occupied land in Orin-Ekiti? Can you show us the signpost where herders warned farmers to keep off annexed farmland or face death? Where are the herders and their cattle in the occupied 8 square kilometre land mass in Orin-Ekiti? Your answers to those questions will make sense to me than the rants about Miyetti Allah and Fulani this and Fulani that.
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Baba Kadiri is not remotely suggesting that perhaps in the spirit of patriotism, he wouldn’t mind if some Fulani Herdsmen grazed their cows on his private vegetable garden? In which case we are to suppose that Fulani herdsmen’s annexation of any part of his Ondo State could be in violation of the Nigerian Constitution alright, but from his point of view it would not necessarily violate or contravene  the golden Rule , given the amiable national spirit of “all for one, and one for all”.

I am also not in accord with Toyin Adepoju’s liberal use of the term “Right Wing Fulani in Nigeria” without a clear definition of what “right-wing” means in Nigeria. In my time in Nigeria, I associated “left-wing” with the venerable Mallam Aminu Kano.

I do not agree with Baba Kadiri’s presumption either, that in most contexts of ill report, “herdsman” does not always imply Fulani herdsman.

I fail to see the logic of Baba Kadiri’s conclusion that “ No crops could have been planted on the abandoned Orin Farm Settlement for the occupying ghost-herders to destroy”, apparently, based on the premise that “The Orin Farm Settlement was created by the Western Region government of yesteryears and inherited by the present day Ekiti State government. If the land, about 2,500 acres had been abandoned, it still remains the property of Ekiti State government and no one has the right to occupy it without the approval of the government.”

Perchance, we could arrive at a better understanding of the situation by reading Rasaq Ibrahim’s earlier report headlined “ Ekiti most neglected state in Nigeria, says Afe Babalola”

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Point of correction.

According to Baba Kadiri, “Nowhere​ in the report was Fulani mentioned but Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju in his wet dream…”

In actual fact, Fulani is mentioned in the article, here:

“ The protesters, comprising old and young men and women, chanted derisive songs against the invaders with placards bearing their thoughts and agitations including 'What is our sin?'; 'Enough is Enough'; 'Save Orin Ekiti from herdsmen invasion'; 'We are tired of molestation by herdsmen'; 'Government must relocate Fulani Herdsmen', among others.”

One last little question to Baba Kadiri: What was the cumulative impact on you when you read the following words in the first half of the brief report:

 “Some suspected herdsmen have reportedly taken over some areas covering about 8km in Orin-Ekiti, Ido/Osi local government area of Ekiti State near Governor Kayode Fayemi's hometown, Isan-Ekiti “

“the herders hoisted a red flag at the 'annexed' farmlands where they warned farmers to keep off or face death.”

“the herders occupied and destroyed crops planted on the abandoned 2500 acres of land at Orin Farm settlement.”

“The protesters, comprising old and young men and women, chanted derisive songs against the invaders with placards bearing their thoughts and agitations including 'What is our sin?'; 'Enough is Enough'; 'Save Orin Ekiti from herdsmen invasion'; 'We are tired of molestation by herdsmen'; 'Government must relocate Fulani Herdsmen', among others.”

“Chief Bamidele Fasuyi, alleged one Emmanuel Ilori had been allegedly killed by suspected herders while the Tiv people farming in the town were chased away.”

“He regretted that the suspected herdsmen had destroyed crops worth over N50million belonging to 70 farmers.”

As you know full well, the reporter Rasaq Ibrahim is a very cautious man; he does not want to bear false witness against his neighbour and, since  in this case the invaders, molesters, herders have not shown  their ID cards or their ethnic insignia or any other evidence ( DNA, blood samples, mucous, spittle etc ) to certify that they are or were indeed Fulani, like Sherlock Holmes, he plays it safe by up to this point, in spite of all the suggestive evidence, still reporting the trademark invaders as “ suspected “ Fulani herdsmen. Or do you Baba Kadiri think that they could have been Hausa herdsmen? Yoruba Herdsmen? Igbo herdsmen or (God forbid) Kalabari herdsmen? Or indeed some Edo brethren  impersonating Fulani herdsmen?  

So, Baba Kadiri, who do you think the invaders are, and where do you think they come from? Mars Jupiter of Saturn? Or maybe, just nearby Ghana, or even closer, the invaders are some herdsmen neighbours from Burkina Faso or Benin?

The rule of thumb is If looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, then it's a duck

It’s known as the duck test

Needless to say, if it looks like a Nazi, walks like a Nazi and quacks like a Nazi, then it is a Nazi,

Never mind the tribe, ethnicity or nationality…


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Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju

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Kadiri,

You are on your own.

Nigeria has moved on from your desperate efforts to paint red white.

Even when Miyetti Allah justified massacres by their troops, you did your best to exonerate them, so why wont you seek all kinds of splitting hair evidence to avoid acknowledging reality?

Cornelius, 'right wing Fulani' is another term for Fulani supremacists, represented preeminently by  Muhammadu Buhari and Miyetti Allah.

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Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju,

You have some explaining to do. I’m biased of course. As far as I am concerned, up to today  Shehu Uthman dan Fodio is the greatest Nigerian that ever walked on the surface of this earth. Long live his dynasty!

 I have held this view since 1970, was persuaded and convinced about this by one Jeff Holden (an Honourable Englishman) who was a senior lecture in African history at the Institute of African Studies, University of Ghana, Legon. My wife was his graduate student and I occasionally audited some of his lectures and seminars but most of the persuasion about dan Fodio actually took place outside of the classroom, and sometimes in the student cafeteria or the Senior staff common room, or at some big hotel or nightclub over several bottles of beer and other strong alcoholic beverages.  He was a good guy, a fun guy to hang out with at Lido, Tip-Toe Gardens… Talking about “left-wing” and “right-wing”, dear Jeff who was a confirmed socialist was deported from Ghana in 1971 - by Kofi Busia’s government, for saying that “the money of Ghana’s workers and peasants is not being used in their best interests”. Busia must have thought, “What the cheek! We can’t allow and Oyibo – an Obroni for that matter, to talk to us or to lecture us like that! “ It was precisely at the time my Legon neighbour Eboe Hutchful has accosted Busia in downtown Accra, tapped on his tin car Mercedes Benz and told him, “ You must have left your brains in Oxford”. Jeff’s deportation order was like an electric shock. He was given 24 hours to leave, not even enough time to sell his rickety old Citroen de Cheveux or to pay his gambling debts. Some Ghanaian intelligence officer told me that they had a dossier a mile long, on him. I heard him give a little interview to the BBC when he arrived at Gatwick, that evening…

Now, fast forward to what’s happening in Nigeria: A significant percentage of Nigeria cannot be happy when you define  'right wing Fulani' as “another term for Fulani supremacists, represented preeminently by  Muhammadu Buhari and Miyetti Allah”, considering that our beloved Brother Muhammadu Buhari is the democratically elected president of all Nigerians and that the Fulani amount to an estimated mere circa 8%  of Nigeria’s total population of 200 million souls.

How could such a tiny fraction of the electorate be able to – as you say ride roughshod as “Fulani Supremacists” over e.g. the Yoruba, the valiant Igbo and the oil-rich Ijaw, down South? 

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But do you agree that similar to your Edo State friend"s complaint no single photo of one single Fulani man or cow was shown?  Why?.  If you want to colonise a place ( as in French/ British colonisation) you will at least leave ONE official behind to enforce your claim.  Why are these new colonisers so shy to do this?  Why are natives so scared to take a hidden photo shoot?  As I asked earlier why does the place has two paramount chiefs; one at the start and the other at the end of the story?

Are you aware anyone can post a fictitious name and write a fictitious story online just to make mischief?

This story as far as I am concerned has all the hall marks of a fake news and I won't lose much sleep for it.

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Baba Kadiri is not remotely suggesting that perhaps in the spirit of patriotism, he wouldn’t mind if some Fulani Herdsmen grazed their cows on his private vegetable garden? In which case we are to suppose that Fulani herdsmen’s annexation of any part of his Ondo State could be in violation of the Nigerian Constitution alright, but from his point of view it would not necessarily violate or contravene  the golden Rule , given the amiable national spirit of “all for one, and one for all”.

I am also not in accord with Toyin Adepoju’s liberal use of the term “Right Wing Fulani in Nigeria” without a clear definition of what “right-wing” means in Nigeria. In my time in Nigeria, I associated “left-wing” with the venerable Mallam Aminu Kano.

I do not agree with Baba Kadiri’s presumption either, that in most contexts of ill report, “herdsman” does not always imply Fulani herdsman.

I fail to see the logic of Baba Kadiri’s conclusion that “ No crops could have been planted on the abandoned Orin Farm Settlement for the occupying ghost-herders to destroy”, apparently, based on the premise that “The Orin Farm Settlement was created by the Western Region government of yesteryears and inherited by the present day Ekiti State government. If the land, about 2,500 acres had been abandoned, it still remains the property of Ekiti State government and no one has the right to occupy it without the approval of the government.”

Perchance, we could arrive at a better understanding of the situation by reading Rasaq Ibrahim’s earlier report headlined “ Ekiti most neglected state in Nigeria, says Afe Babalola”


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To yin:  This ' right wing fulani supremacist' representative, Muhammadu Buhari, as you allege, placed an Edo man like yourself as supreme national head of his party ( and not a Fulani man.)  How does this fit into your specious logic?

Is this to hide the fact that under the rhetoric of fear of nomination by the majorities Nigeria remains one of the few countries in the world where the top positions in the polity are now monopolized by the minorities while the majorities are now reduced to second class citizens in their own country. Reality check:

President - northern minority
( Fulani)
Chief opposition leader - northern minority (Fulani)

Chairman of the ruling party - southern minority ( Edo)

PREVIOUS ADMIN

President - southern minority -(Ijaw)
Chief opposition leader - northern minority ( Fulani) 

In which western countries that you love so much would that be allowed to happen!

FOOLISH NIGERIAN MAJORITIES STANDING DEMOCRACY ON ITS HEAD.

OAA.

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Kadiri,

You are on your own.

Nigeria has moved on from your desperate efforts to paint red white.

Even when Miyetti Allah justified massacres by their troops, you did your best to exonerate them, so why wont you seek all kinds of splitting hair evidence to avoid acknowledging reality?

Cornelius, 'right wing Fulani' is another term for Fulani supremacists, represented preeminently by  Muhammadu Buhari and Miyetti Allah.

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​Rabbi Hamelberg, You muddle-up issues allot which once caused our dear sister, Gloria,  to remark on your circumlocutory. The more you dance away from the center of music, the more your dancing steps are disaccord with the music. Nobody has been able to show me Fulani herdsmen and their cattle in the occupied landmass of 8 square kilometres in Orin-Ekiti 

​https://www.premiumtimesng.com/regional/ssouth-west/369200-ekiti-govt-speaks-on-alleged-herdsmen-take-over-of-community.html 
The Ekiti State Government has clarified the alleged sacking of Orin-Ekiti community in Ido-Osi Local Government by suspected Fulani herdsmen, saying the report was far from reality.
​Excerpt from the link is as follows : Members of the security team went to Orin, first thing this morning, they went to the allegedly annexed part of the town which is deep into the bush, now what they are calling a flag was a red rag that was hanging off the branch of one shrub and now they said they wrote keep (off or face death), but I don't see anything like that. It was not a flag, it was a rag. If somebody is going to annex your territory, it would be a proper flag with an insignia,there was nothing like that there. As of now, the rag was removed from the bush and that is that. What of the telltale signs that animals had invaded the place in their droppings. It is either going to be fresh or dried. Dried means they have been there and they have left. Fresh means they are still within the vicinity. There was neither there. ...//... What we can assure every Ekiti citizen at this time is, there is no security threat. The state is safe and we don't have any threat of that nature. So, as you are dancing to the rythm of fake news please don't break your waist o!!
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great thanks to Cornelius for his analysis pointing to what one might call the hermeneutic of concealment and fear dramatized by the way the report is written and the manner in which Kadiri is playing along with the script represented by that hermeneutic, that strategy of pretending in broad daylight that the creature one is seeing might not be an animal though it fits all classifications for an animal, the hermeneutic signalling an almost  conquered nation.

the media knows the terrorist Fulani herdsmen have the support of their kinsman in Aso Rock and his proxies controlling the security agencies.

so, while knowing the facts of the case, facts ascertained by the fact that the report suggests a person who visited the community and spoke to the inhabitants, and a reporter who would be able to visit the environment  and even interview the herdsmen in question, in the context of a scenario that has recurred in different parts of the country with greater or lesser use of destructive, life decimating force by these terrorists, they prefer journalism of self protection by telling half truths, invoking 'alleged' so they keep their jobs and their news media  dont suffer reprisals from the terrorist overseers.

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Ogbeni Salimonu Kadiri,
We are back at this painful trivialization of an issue that constitutes existential threat to a group of people whose cultural sensibilities, economic livelihood and environmental sanity are being assaulted and threatened. Ghost Fuani herdsmen? My question is must you respond if you don't have anything logical, compassionate or meaningful to contribute? Are you saying that those people carrying placards are political jobbers or idle people who have nothing to do other than to raise false alarms? This bare-faced insensitivity on your part is most disconcerting and in fact very annoying. Like I said before , eni  oro kan  lo mo. For God's sake, please abstain from further insulting the sensibilities of people who are facing existential threats from aggressive land grabbers. Writing to stridently exculpate gangsters who did not even deny the accusation is an abuse of time and space.

Shaking my head in disbelief.  

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Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju,

You have some explaining to do. I’m biased of course. As far as I am concerned, up to today  Shehu Uthman dan Fodio is the greatest Nigerian that ever walked on the surface of this earth. Long live his dynasty!

 I have held this view since 1970, was persuaded and convinced about this by one Jeff Holden (an Honourable Englishman) who was a senior lecturer in African history at the Institute of African Studies, University of Ghana, Legon. My wife was his graduate student and I occasionally audited some of his lectures and seminars but most of the persuasion about dan Fodio actually took place outside of the classroom, sometimes in the student cafeteria or the Senior staff common room, or at some big hotel or nightclub, over several bottles of beer and other strong alcoholic beverages. He was a good guy, a fun guy to hang out with at Lido and Tip-Toe Gardens… Talking about “left-wing” and “right-wing”, dear Jeff who was a confirmed socialist was deported from Ghana in 1971 - by Kofi Busia’s government, for saying that “the money of Ghana’s workers and peasants is not being used in their best interests”. Busia must have thought, “What the cheek! We can’t allow an Oyibo – an Obroni for that matter, to talk to us or to lecture us like that! “ It was precisely at the time my Legon neighbour Eboe Hutchful has accosted Busia in downtown Accra, tapped on his tin car Mercedes Benz and told him, “ You must have left your brains in Oxford”. Jeff’s deportation order was like an electric shock. He was given 24 hours to leave, not even enough time to sell his rickety old Citroen de Cheveux or to pay his gambling debts. Some Ghanaian intelligence officer told me that they had a dossier a mile long, on him. I heard him give a little interview to the BBC when he arrived at Gatwick, that evening…

Now, fast forward to what’s happening in Nigeria: A significant percentage of Nigeria cannot be happy when you define  'right wing Fulani' as “another term for Fulani supremacists, represented preeminently by  Muhammadu Buhari and Miyetti Allah”, considering that our beloved Brother Muhammadu Buhari is the democratically elected president of all Nigerians and that the Fulani amount to an estimated merely circa 7%  of Nigeria’s total population of 200 million souls.

How could such a tiny fraction of the electorate be able to – as you say ride roughshod as “Fulani Supremacists” over e.g. the Yoruba, the valiant Igbo and the oil-rich Ijaw, down South? 


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Adepoju, May the good Lord save us from mythologists who listen to the voice of demons and understand their language. The mythologists have advanced a simplistic and superficial postulation that an area of 8 square kilometres landmass in Orin-Ekiti has been occupied by Fulani herdsmen but the occupants are not visible there.Did Miyetti Allah ever justify killing anywhere in Nigeria? www.everyday.ng/2018/06/26/miyetti-allah-leader-denies-saying-killing-of-200-in-plateau-was-reprisal-attack/ 
The Secretary of Economic and Financial Crimes Commission,  EFCC,  Mr. Ola Olukoyede has charged auctioneers handling the disposal of 244
The Special Military Task Force, “Operation Save Haven’’ on Wednesday paraded three suspects in connection with the latest killings in Plateau state that sparked national outrage. The three ...
Facts versus myths, you are free to make your choice, Mr. Adepoju.
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This piece describes the terrible propaganda going on in Ekiti. The road passage through Orin Ekiti is not up to 8 kilometers. Let us imagine that it was the farm lands. The farm lands that have been set aside for the former booming agrarian activities are visible from the onset.
 A case can be made against foreign invasion by not necessarily nor mischievously stigmatizing any race. The degree of illiteracy in our society is so high that the word "suspected" does not ring any bell. It is also tragic that responsible journalism has taken flight for speculative analysis. The reg rag that was seen hanging on branch of a wild tree was the flag that any sane person would cite as a sovereign flag of the suspected Fulani group!!!
 What saddens an average person is the futile attempts at presenting the hard working Governor of Ekiti as a catalyst in this mischievous opera. Ekiti did not attract any attention from the media marauders in those 4 locust years of misrule and executive brigandry under a supposed governor. Today, our lands have been reclaimed and values are being restored. Whatever political permeations that might be loosely going around should not be harvested to stigmatize the Governor of Ekiti State. 
 As the Chief security of the State, Governor Fayemi has made his presence and the activities of governance felt in all the LGs in Ekiti. He may be quiet and not easily drawn out by political shenanigans, he is nevertheless focused and well aware of these endless political manipulations by political speculators. In any case, most of the herds of cows in Ekiti are owned by rich individuals who employed Fulani or local herders to pasture their herds. No Fulani has migrated into Ekiti with hundreds of herds, crossing any adjoining Ekiti borders as autonomous bodies of cow merchants. It will therefore be a worthwhile intellectual venture to investigate events properly before they are consigned into the arena of Yoruba irredentism. Those alleged Yoruba sons who were in collaboration with Jonathan for six years during which the Yoruba nation was unprecedentedly marginalised by the Igbo and the Ijaw collaboration, cannot possess any atom of morality to begin any fake Yoruba cause. Some of them shared from the Dasuki arms' fund conversion for personal vanities, while all of them shared in the central banks' dollars that were looted for an overnight mobilization by the Jonathan group on the eve of the 2015 presidential elections. Were it not for the ailing judiciary in Nigeria, some of them who are on  bail would have been in jail for long. Thus, we are not in the mood for any manipulations on fake and opportunistic ethnic and or religious irredentism.

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Why is there such a huge discrepancy between these detailed reports, in the very report Kadiri linked to, specifying representative leaders and groups on the ravages suffered by the community and the claims of the state govt?-

Reports of ravage and internal colonization ranging 

from 

"The Onikare of Orin Ekiti, Bamidele Fasuyi, while speaking with journalists on the matter on Wednesday, had alleged that the herders had occupied and destroyed crops planted on the abandoned 2500 acres of land at Orin farm settlement.

“What they wanted is to invade our land and chase us away. They even killed one of our able bodied men this year,” the monarch had complained.

“They are imposing some curfew in this town, because our youths can’t go to farm freely and government has not been doing something. Several hectares of land had been destroyed. They used to operate at night with AK 47 rifle.

“Over 70 farmers were affected from our records. Crops worth 50 million have been ravaged . They ate up their products like Cocoayam, yam, cassava and others and made them to incur debts.

“We appeal to government to use the 2500 acres of land for farming. The state and federal government as well as private bodies should come to our aid.”


TO


"A group known as Save the Nation Movement (STNM) in a statement on Thursday, accused Mr Fayemi of keeping quiet over the attacks because of his alleged vice presidential ambition in 2023.

In a statement issued in Abuja by its National Secretary, Stevens Chilaka, the STNM said Governor Fayemi was only living up to his pre-election agreement of ceding land in Ekiti State to herdsmen so as to remain “a good and willing boy” to the “presidency cabal” towards the 2023 presidential election.

“Today, Fayemi’s silence on the take-over of lands in Orin-Ekiti by Fulani herdsmen and other atrocities being committed by them across the State has lend credence to claim by the PDP,” the group said.

The group recalled that in February this year, the people of Ayegbaju Ekiti in Oye Local Government Area of Ekiti State had to stage a violent protest over alleged killing of a farmer, Elijah Ogor, by suspected herdsmen."


The state govt's representatives says its all a hoax, an attempt to malign the state govt.

I am deeply disturbed  by these discrepancies.

Something is very wrong.

Is there any relationship beyond the remote and tenuous between this development and Miyetti Allah, using personnel with the Fulani organisation/terrorist group's ID cards setting up roadblocks in another SW state , leading to an outcry that had the govt scrambling to distance itself from the initiative and ask the Miyetti Allah personnel to step down?

May we expect any investigative reporting to get to the bottom of this issue, to know who is lying, the community and its leaders or the state govt?

No.

Everybody has keyed into the deadly game being played so no one will take the trouble.

I dont trust the Ekiti state govt. It is an extension of dominant SW political leader Bola Tinubu's see, hear and do nothing policy in relation to terrorism by right wing Fulani, all in the name of the much coveted 2023 Presidency.

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We all know the answers about Fulani power in Nigeria but some are claiming  not to know. 



 Cornelius-

'As far as I am concerned, up to today  Shehu Uthman dan Fodio is the greatest Nigerian that ever walked on the surface of this earth. ' 

  What was great about Uthman dan Fodio, the arch-feudalist? 

Is he not the reason Northern Nigeria is so backward today?

"I want to free you from domination by unfair Hausa leaders but I will place my family members and lieutenants over you and maintain that ethnic dominance in perpetuity.'

That was his vision which he actualized.

That is the answer to Cornelius- 

'the Fulani amount to an estimated merely circa 7%  of Nigeria’s total population of 200 million souls. '  

It is also the answer to OAA observations-


'... Nigeria remains one of the few countries in the world where the top positions in the polity are now monopolized by the minorities ...Reality check:

President - northern minority
( Fulani)
Chief opposition leader - northern minority (Fulani)'

  that  domination is also expressed in Illorin, where the colonising Fulani jihad was stopped before it could penetrate further into Yorubaland, a victory gained at Illorin by the Fulani jihadists through division among the Yoruba.

Within the Fulani aristocracy, traditional and political, the dominant political figures in the Muslim North, as far as I can see, there exists a hard core of the dominating, religio/ethno centric zeal that drove the Fulani jihad.

The extremists who embody this core are those I describe as right wing Fulani.

Dan Fodio's jihad is responsible for the kind of Islam that dominates the Muslim North. This kind of Islam is not marked by humanism towards non-Muslims or towards Muslim girls.

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Baba Kadiri,

Laughter is the best medicine and that’s why I enjoy reading The Onion , Private Eye, and other satirical newspapers. I also enjoy getting into a good argument but do not and will not wrestle with what you call “pigs” and don’t see any point arguing with anyone who only recently escaped from a mental asylum.

Rasaq Ibrahim could have taken you people for a ride.  It could have been a mirage, that he/they saw. As for me, not taking myself too seriously, I’m still enjoying the ride. It’s not a matter of life and death for me. Whether it’s allegations by Rasaq Ibrahim or Don Pedro hallucinating or exaggerations by Farooq Kperogi, or some  other bombastic Naija journalese, or some Nigerian governor, pastor, politician, priest, I take it all with a pinch of salt, since in Nigeria and the Social Media in cyberspace, it’s always a blurred vision ( think Sowore) and a blurred border between  fact and fiction, dream and reality.

Apparently, this Rasaq Ibrahim is the direct cause of all your verbiage and other people’s distress. That’s why last night I sent you this photo and asked you the question (which I intended to be humorous): image.pngDo you recognise this flag?

This remains your point of no return: ” Nobody has been able to show me Fulani herdsmen and their cattle in the occupied landmass of 8 square kilometres in Orin-Ekiti”

Nobody has been able to show Baba Kadiri, sitting over there in Ösmo. Next, still sitting  in Ösmo, like Unbelieving Thomas you will want to insert your little finger in Jesus’ palm to verify that (a) there is a hole there (b) that the hole was caused by a nail (c) that the nail was hammered by a Roman executioner and most crucially that it was Jesus of Nazareth and not a ghost or someone else who looked like him. I guess fingerprints, blood sample, DNA etc would satisfy you. A mere photograph and ten thousand witnesses who could all be lying, would certainly not be sufficient.

There are Holocaust Deniers too – and when it comes to the itinerant, sometimes marauding Fulani Herdsman who is reported to be everywhere - and this is not obfuscating the matter, it’s something of the Scarlet Pimpernel isn’t it, that “They seek him here. They seek him there. Those Frenchies seek him everywhere. Is he in Heaven? Or is he in Hell? That damned, elusive, pimpernel.”

How silly can we be!

This little question and answer should be sufficient, it is from Spirit on the Water :

You ever seen a ghost? No

But you've heard of them

What are we arguing about? I am probably more of a sceptic than you and I would be the first to agree that even when a Fulani Herdsman is rooting out your teeth with his pliers, the Duck Test would not be good enough. Based on some spurious newspaper report, you demand that the occupants or alleged occupants be arrested and then identified. What other proof would satisfy you?

I know that next in line you’ll want me to prove the existence of God or Heaven according to your Gradgrindian austerity.

As far as music is concerned, juju, apala and fuji are not the only foundations of Jazz nor is Baba this and Baba that the only foundation of language, humour, oratory, liturgy, history, philosophy. When it comes to the circumlocutory (like Mozart? Beethoven? ), the stupid, the grandiose or even oratory Gloria and her centre of gravity can begin with the Kebra Nagast, the Greeks or the Romans, but that is not the beginning: To approach the Throne of Glory, the supplicant first takes three steps backwards before he takes three steps forward, and then he bows.

I know that you are yet to experience your own freedom under Baba Buhari or Olodumare Olorun Olofi and you mistakenly think, believe, wish or demand that mine should be circumscribed by your own failing eyesight and vision and your new set of commandments about what I should say and should not say, how I should think, how I should say it, also maybe how I should play it, how I should dance and not dance quoting some bygone nothings, according  to your schoolmistress Gloria or is it your goddess Sophia?

Now, not “How weary, stale, flat, and unprofitable Seem to me all the uses of this world!”, but Brutus saying of Casca;

“What a blunt fellow is this grown to be!

He was quick mettle when he went to school.”

You are at liberty to believe this and be happy: “The Ekiti State Government has clarified the alleged sacking of Orin-Ekiti community in Ido-Osi Local Government by suspected Fulani herdsmen, saying the report was far from reality.”

So, what was that all about?

Who knows? Perhaps the Fulani Herdsmen will return with full force and with a vengeance  tomorrow – or the remnants of your Boko still occupying the Sambisa Forest will decide to navigate South, to occupy some fresh Federal territory at Ekiti.

Baba Kadiri! Shmile: Don’t take yourself so sheriously 

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Ogbeni Salimonu Kadiri,
Denialism and rationalisation are the handmaidens of despotism. From the Premium Times, we read inter-alia: “Orin is even better protected than Ado Ekiti as it is,” he said. “At a point in time, as you are aware, there were some incidences, where one hunter got killed, ever since that time, the governor gave strict instructions that a Joint Patrol Team must patrol that area, especially towns that share borders with neighbouring states.”  The bold emphasis is mine. Who killed that hunter? I can vividly remember that you faulted the claim that the hunter was killed by your beloved rampaging Fulani herdsmen when this issue was raised some months back. Now that the state government confirmed that an incident happened, I will like to know your new logic of rationalisation and defense of the indefensibe.  Note that in the Premium Times piece, it was also mentioned that the marauders used to cross one one state to  Ekiti state. Thus, if there were no incidences involved ythem as you won't to claim, why the Joint Patrol Team? Who killed Dele Giwa, Na Baba, if you add Gida, na you sabi.
My back is not even going to break  on this matter.  We must call a spade a spade and like my late Professor Arthur Ebunoluwa Davies used to say, there is difference between joke is not Joke. Matters of life and security should be taken seriously and tackled timeously without political bias.

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I’m surprised that you are surprised. For Baba Kadiri it’s never a matter of two people with three opinions, because Baba Kadiri is always right, and if you disagree with him you are always wrong. 

Don’t you know that nobody can be as concise, as clear, as succinct, as truthful and as accurate and when he chooses to be, as grandiloquent as Baba Kadiri?

Who else? Baba Ijebu? 

By comparison, Baba Kadiri is often as crisp as Orwell’s Benjamin, the donkey.

When we are equally ignorant about something and I disagree with Baba Kadiri then it’s me and not him that is “confused”, me and not he that is supposed to have “muddled-up” issues “a lot” and in support of his inerrant wisdom and correctness, this time he has taken recourse to quoting his “dear sister“ Gloria as an authority on other people’s circumlocution.

Two can play at that game. I could also quote Prophet Jesus and Prophet Muhammad (s.a.w.). In my own support I could even quote Biko Agozino, Baba Kadiri's good friend Obi Nwakanma or closer at hand  his interlocutor Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju who thus gave it to Baba Kadiri in this thread:

“ I rushed to see if Kadiri has anything substantial to contribute on this existential crisis. As usual, it’s the same clutching at straws of self-deception as the nation is poised at an incendiary junction through terrorism by right wing Fulani.”

I don’t know what or who is occupying Baba Kadiri’s head. Maybe the juju Fulani herdsmen have colonised his mind and are controlling his five sense. That is also a distinct possibility and that’s why he reasons there’s no need for the full Monty when you can do with the Shorter Naija version according to St. John or the governor of Ekiti

My own reservation is that the Fulani Herdsmen or whoever it was could have retreated but left their rag/ flag as a sign as they are coming back.

As Nigerian governors go, whilst what the governor of Ekiti says could be suspect  - as cynically suggested, the political sycophant could be merely brownnosing but when it comes to Ekiti’s own son, Professor Bolaji Aluko from my point of view we are talking about unalloyed integrity and if he was privy to the actual facts, I for one would believe him.

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 I’m surprised that you are surprised. For Baba Kadiri and people of his kind, it’s never a matter of two people with three opinions, because Baba Kadiri is always right, and if you disagree with him you are always wrong. 

Don’t you know that nobody can be as concise, as clear, as succinct, as truthful and as accurate and when he chooses to be, as grandiloquent as Baba Kadiri?

Who else? Baba Ijebu? 

By comparison, Baba Kadiri is often as crisp as Orwell’s Benjamin, the donkey.

When we are equally ignorant about something and I disagree with Baba Kadiri then it’s me and not him that is “confused”, me and not he that is supposed to have “muddled-up” issues “a lot” and in support of his inerrant wisdom and correctness, this time he has taken recourse to quoting his “dear sister“ Gloria as an authority on other people’s circumlocution.

Two can play at that game. I could also quote Prophet Jesus and Prophet Muhammad (s.a.w.).  In my own support I could even quote Biko Agozino, Baba Kadiri's good friend Obi Nwakanma or closer at hand his interlocutor, Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju who thus gave it to Baba Kadiri in this thread:

“ I rushed to see if Kadiri has anything substantial to contribute on this existential crisis. As usual, it’s the same clutching at straws of self-deception as the nation is poised at an incendiary junction through terrorism by right wing Fulani.”

 I don’t know what or who is occupying Baba Kadiri’s head. Maybe the juju Fulani herdsmen have colonised his mind and are controlling his five sense. That is also a distinct possibility and that’s why he reasons there’s no need for the full Monty when you can do with the Shorter Naija version according to St. John or the governor of Ekiti


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​Arakunrin Femi Segun,
​When it is about to rain, the alligator will rush to the nearest stream of water to hide in order to avoid being wet by the rain. That is the logic of alligators, hiding inside a river to avoid being wet by the rain!! The logic of alligators in this wise is that they said a particular landmass has been forcibly occupied by Fulani herdsmen but since there is total absence of Fulani and cows in the supposed occupied territory, the alligators volte-faced to say the land conquerors were suspected Fulani herdsmen. According to the logic of alligators, the physical presence of Fulani herdsmen and their cattle is not necessary to establish their occupation of a territory by force. Since you enjoy pinching birds with needle, I urge you to pinch yourself with the same needle to experience the pain of the birds you have been pinching with needle. Therefore I conclude here that suspected Ogboni cult led by Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju and Femi Segun have annexed Orin-Ekiti and hoisted the flag of Benin Kingdom with the insignia of Ewuare II, the Oba of Benin.
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Baba Kadiri,

In this Christmas season of peace on earth and goodwill to all men, why should you be defending the indefensible? He who feels it knows. Have a heart. This Fulani Herdsmen crisis has been going on for far too long. Really. People are dying, they are killing people, occupying other people’s farms, private property, illegally grazing their cattle on other people’s vegetables and it seems that, so far, all you have done in protest is to quote your “dear sister Gloria” about some alleged “circumlocution”?  Isn’t that sophistry? Isn’t that enough reason to suspect that you are being either rewarded or recompensed for your consistent defence of Fulani Herdsmen atrocities each and every time such events are reported or suspected?

Sitting over there in Ösmo, can you verify for us whether or not it was as a result of some fake news music, that photographs were taken of the Ekiti people demonstrating with their placards?

If they are no longer there, it means that they must have withdrawn from the area. They have probably left their red flag/rag behind as a sign that they will be returning (like Buzz Aldrin planting the flag of The United States of America on the moon)

What are you going to say if or when they (the herders, invaders) return?

How can we both read what’s quoted in bold black letters and arrive at such different understanding? You have to take these complaints which you yourself posted, seriously and sitting  in safety, over there in Ösmo  you ought not dismiss our Ekiti peoples troubles as fairy tales :


“The protesters, comprising old and young men and women, said the farmlands destroyed belonged to 70 farmers.

They alleged that one Emmanuel Ilori had been killed by suspected herders while the Benue farmers in the town had been chased away.

The Onikare of Orin Ekiti, Bamidele Fasuyi, while speaking with journalists on the matter on Wednesday, had alleged that the herders had occupied and destroyed crops planted on the abandoned 2500 acres of land at Orin farm settlement.

“What they wanted is to invade our land and chase us away. They even killed one of our able bodied men this year,” the monarch had complained.

“They are imposing some curfew in this town, because our youths can’t go to farm freely and government has not been doing something. Several hectares of land had been destroyed. They used to operate at night with AK 47 rifle.

“Over 70 farmers were affected from our records. Crops worth 50 million have been ravaged . They ate up their products like Cocoayam, yam, cassava and others and made them to incur debts.

“We appeal to government to use the 2500 acres of land for farming. The state and federal government as well as private bodies should come to our aid.”

A youth leader, Omotoso Kayode, alleged that the suspected herders had hoisted a flag at the farm settlement, where they warned the farmers to keep off or face death.

“They wrote ‘keep off’ with a picture of a cattle rearer on the flag. This is a serious threat. The police, NSCDC and soldiers removed the flag last year, but they had hoisted another one,” said Mr Kayode.

“We used to do night guard to ward off attack, because the police had found it difficult to arrest them. Our graduates who have no jobs were going into farming, but they are suffering losses because of destruction by cows.

“They must vacate the place. Governor Kayode Fayemi must relocate them. From our findings, they used to enter into this place from neighbouring towns like Isan, Ayede, and Ido and we are suspecting conspiracy .There may be famine in the land with the way things are going.

“We are not compromising our stand on this relocation. Chief Obafemi Awolowo-led government in the old Western region acquired the land in 1958 for arable farming and not for ranching.”

A group known as Save the Nation Movement (STNM) in a statement on Thursday, accused Mr Fayemi of keeping quiet over the attacks because of his alleged vice presidential ambition in 2023.

In a statement issued in Abuja by its National Secretary, Stevens Chilaka, the STNM said Governor Fayemi was only living up to his pre-election agreement of ceding land in Ekiti State to herdsmen so as to remain “a good and willing boy” to the “presidency cabal” towards the 2023 presidential election.

“Today, Fayemi’s silence on the take-over of lands in Orin-Ekiti by Fulani herdsmen and other atrocities being committed by them across the State has lend credence to claim by the PDP,” the group said.

The group recalled that in February this year, the people of Ayegbaju Ekiti in Oye Local Government Area of Ekiti State had to stage a violent protest over alleged killing of a farmer, Elijah Ogor, by suspected herdsmen.

Mr Ogor, who was in his 30s, hailed from Benue but was residing in Ekiti, where he was engaged in farming.

The group also recalled that in April this year, suspected herders killed two persons and injured three others while many were sent packing from their residences in Iyemero-Ekiti, Ikole Local Government Area of Ekiti State.

“In June this year suspected herdsmen machete a hunter, Emmanuel

Ilori, to death in Orin Ekiti. He was killed at midnight while hunting

games. The tragedy happened barely 24 hours after a lady was murdered

in Ise Ekiti,” said the group.

“Adeniyi Ajayi, who was in the bush when Ilori was killed had explained

that they met the herdsmen numbering about 30 in an abandoned piggery

in the town and when they attempted to inquire what they were doing in

the farm, the herdsmen opened fire on them and that resulted in the

death of Mr Ilori.

“In all these, Governor Fayemi has done nothing, ostensibly because he

does not want to offend the powers that be so as not to jeopardise his

ambition to either be President or Vice Presidential candidate of the All Progressives Congress, APC, in 2023.”

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SK

I agree with you that every act of banditry should not be attributed to herdsmen especially if the hoodlums are not with cattle. Even the Fulani among the foreign fighters (including Tuaregs, Bedouins, Berbers, Arabs etc) in Nigerian forests and communities are not herdsmen.

The foreign fighters are mercenaries, soldiers of fortune united by a common vision (plunder), language (Arabic), religion and superiority complex or racism that makes them to see the black land owners as inferior and naive. These are the forces that are allegedly waiting and plotting to overrun the indigenous black African communities as part of the new colonialism or/and even slavery. When that happens, it will be too late for all including SK.

Whenever many Nigerians see these foreign fighters they call them Fulani herdsmen which is wrong. However, there are herdsmen who destroy farmers' crops and farmlands, leading to conflicts, but they are cattle rearers, not mercenary fighters.

Omokioja J.K.Eto


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​Rabbi Hamelberg, You muddle-up issues allot which once caused our dear sister, Gloria,  to remark on your circumlocutory. The more you dance away from the center of music, the more your dancing steps are disaccord with the music. Nobody has been able to show me Fulani herdsmen and their cattle in the occupied landmass of 8 square kilometres in Orin-Ekiti 
​https://www.premiumtimesng.com/regional/ssouth-west/369200-ekiti-govt-speaks-on-alleged-herdsmen-take-over-of-community.html 
The Ekiti State Government has clarified the alleged sacking of Orin-Ekiti community in Ido-Osi Local Government by suspected Fulani herdsmen, saying the report was far from reality.
​Excerpt from the link is as follows : Members of the security team went to Orin, first thing this morning, they went to the allegedly annexed part of the town which is deep into the bush, now what they are calling a flag was a red rag that was hanging off the branch of one shrub and now they said they wrote keep (off or face death), but I don't see anything like that. It was not a flag, it was a rag. If somebody is going to annex your territory, it would be a proper flag with an insignia,there was nothing like that there. As of now, the rag was removed from the bush and that is that. What of the telltale signs that animals had invaded the place in their droppings. It is either going to be fresh or dried. Dried means they have been there and they have left. Fresh means they are still within the vicinity. There was neither there. ...//... What we can assure every Ekiti citizen at this time is, there is no security threat. The state is safe and we don't have any threat of that nature. So, as you are dancing to the rythm of fake news please don't break your waist o!!
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Point of correction.

According to Baba Kadiri, “Nowhere​ in the report was Fulani mentioned but Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju in his wet dream…”

In actual fact, Fulani is mentioned in the article, here:

“ The protesters, comprising old and young men and women, chanted derisive songs against the invaders with placards bearing their thoughts and agitations including 'What is our sin?'; 'Enough is Enough'; 'Save Orin Ekiti from herdsmen invasion'; 'We are tired of molestation by herdsmen'; 'Government must relocate Fulani Herdsmen', among others.”

One last little question to Baba Kadiri: What was the cumulative impact on you when you read the following words in the first half of the brief report:

 “Some suspected herdsmen have reportedly taken over some areas covering about 8km in Orin-Ekiti, Ido/Osi local government area of Ekiti State near Governor Kayode Fayemi's hometown, Isan-Ekiti “

“the herders hoisted a red flag at the 'annexed' farmlands where they warned farmers to keep off or face death.”

“the herders occupied and destroyed crops planted on the abandoned 2500 acres of land at Orin Farm settlement.”

“The protesters, comprising old and young men and women, chanted derisive songsagainst the invaders with placards bearing their thoughts and agitations including 'What is our sin?'; 'Enough is Enough'; 'Save Orin Ekiti fromherdsmen invasion'; 'We are tired of molestation by herdsmen'; 'Government must relocateFulani Herdsmen', among others.”

“Chief Bamidele Fasuyi, alleged one Emmanuel Ilori had been allegedly killedby suspected herders while the Tiv people farming in the town were chased away.”

“He regretted that the suspected herdsmen had destroyed crops worth over N50million belonging to 70 farmers.”

As you know full well, the reporter Rasaq Ibrahim is a very cautious man; he does not want to bear false witness against his neighbour and, since  in this case the invaders, molesters, herders have not shown  theirID cards or their ethnic insignia or any other evidence ( DNA, blood samples, mucous, spittle etc ) to certify that they are or were indeed Fulani, likeSherlock Holmes, he plays it safe by up to this point, in spite of all the suggestive evidence, still reporting the trademark invaders as“ suspected “ Fulani herdsmen. Or do you Baba Kadiri think that they could have been Hausa herdsmen?Yoruba Herdsmen? Igbo herdsmen or (God forbid) Kalabari herdsmen? Or indeed some Edo brethren  impersonating Fulani herdsmen?  

So, Baba Kadiri, who do you think the invaders are, and where do you think they come from? Mars Jupiter of Saturn? Or maybe, just nearby Ghana, or even closer, the invaders are some herdsmen neighbours from Burkina Faso or Benin?

The rule of thumb is If looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, then it's a duck

It’s known as the duck test

Needless to say, if it looks like a Nazi, walks like a Nazi and quacks like a Nazi, then it is a Nazi,

Never mind the tribe, ethnicity or nationality…


On Friday, 20 December 2019 04:16:27 UTC+1, ogunlakaiye wrote:
​The other time when I deployed the words, stupidity quotient (SQ) to rate the illogicality of a certain pronouncement on this forum, Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju smartly, but not cleverly, erased the word quotient and uplifted only stupidity to make it look as if I was being abusive. Every human being has a degree of stupidity quotient in him or her but unlike IQ, the lower the rate of SQ, the better for the person and his/her neighbour. The report written by one Rasaq Ibrahim from Ado Ekiti exhibits highest rate of SQ that, even if the Nation's newspaper published it for sensational and commercial reasons, it ought not to be published on a forum where people who do not regard the human head only as a hat-shelf but as a thinking faculty. Consider the following assertions.

​Some suspected herdsmen havereportedly taken over some areas covering about 8km in Orin-Ekiti, Ido/Osi local government area of Ekitinear Governor Kayode Fayemi's hometown, Isan-Ekiti -Reporter, Rasaq Ibrahim. If​ herdsmen had actually taken over the said land area, they would physically be identified in the occupied land area. As reported by Rasaq Ibrahim, it would appear as if the land occupiers in Orin-Ekiti are (ghosts) invincible) herdsmen which is why they are only only suspected as herdsmen. The reporter stated that the areas taken over in Orin-Ekiti by the invincible herdsmen cover about 8 kilometres. Land area is always measured in square metres or kilometres. If we assume that the reporters intention was to say that 8 square kilometres land area was forcibly occupied by herdsmen in Orin-Ekiti, then, we need to know the numerical strength of alien forces needed to accomplish the annexation. Only a person with a very high rate of stupidity quotient will believe that some ghost-herdsmen are capable of occupying 8 square kilometres of land at Orin-Ekiti.

​…. the herders hoisted a red flag at the 'annexed farmlands' where they warned farmers to keep off or face death - Rasaq Ibrahim. A picture of a red rag hanging on top of a branch of a wild-growing tree was shown but no single herder was present and the warning notice to farmers to keep off or face death was nowhere to be seen.

​Residents told journalist on Wednesday, during a protest, that the herders occupied and destroyed crops planted on the abandoned 2,500 acres of land at Orin Farm Settlement - Nation's Reporter.
​The Orin Farm Settlement was created by the Western Region government of yesteryears and inherited by the present day Ekiti State government. If the land, about 2,500 acres had been abandoned, it still remains the property of Ekiti State government and no one has the right to occupy it without the approval of the government. No crops could have been planted on the abandoned Orin Farm Settlement for the occupying ghost-herders to destroy.

​Whenever Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju hears the word *herdsmen* he gets wet dream with Fulani people. The report written by Rasaq Ibrahim was captioned by the Natio newspaper as, Herdsmen Hoist Flag in Orin-Ekiti, Near Fayemi's Hometown.
​Nowhere​ in the report was Fulani mentioned but Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju in his wet dream added the following to the headline without the consent of the author of the article or the Nation Newspaper : Terrorism by Right Wing Fulani in Nigeria. That's a fraud.
S. Kadiri

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​On this matter, I have not disagreed with anyone, I simply disbelieve the fake news and those making outlandish attention-grabbing comments with no substance. Well, the government of Ekiti State has sent security forces to Orin-Ekiti where they found a red rag hanging on the top of a tree in the bush and not in a farmland. The trace of land occupants either in the past or presently could not be found by the security men. Perhaps the ghost Fulani herdsmen got some voodoo magic to conjure away their tracks.

​I disbelieve the news of Orin-Ekiti land annexation by Fulani herdsmen jus as I disbelieve the news of a Rabbi holding the head of a probably murdered Palestine man in his hand as a trophy. I interrogated the peddler of the news if he witnessed the Rabbi chopping off the head of the Palestine man and he replied that he did not see him commit the act. Where was the remaining parts of the body of the supposedly murdered Palestinian? He did not know. Where did the Rabbi murder the Palestinian, I asked? He told me the Rabbi resides very close to the cemetery. Have you seen the Rabbi desecrate any grave, particularly the one containing a Palestinian?

​He answered, no. Thus, I disbelieved the news of a Rabbi holding the head of a Palestinian as a trophy and condemned the news as a malicious lie.

​By the way, if the Presidential post is zoned to the South in 2023, Governor Fayemi cannot contest as Vice President. Traditionally and conventionally, when the Presidential candidate is from the South, the Vice must come from the North.
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Who is stopping the police from prosecuting here now?

Well, we wait and see..

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​Femi Segun,

​I have always believed that there are criminals in all ethnic groups in Nigeria, thus it is not a news that there are trespassers of farmlands among herdsmen in Nigeria. In this case a trespass into a rice farm was committed by three herdsmen in Ekiti and they were arrested and arraigned in a court of law. That is quite different from vague accusation of suspected herdsmen destroying rice farm in Ekiti. As I have said in the past, herdsmen cannot commit crime in the company of their cattle and disappear into thin air without being apprehended.

​Please, observe that total sum of bail conditions for the accused persons correspond to the total cost of the estimated damage allegedly caused by the herdsmen in the rice farm. Take note too that the accused persons are not identified as Fulani, Hausa or Muslim herdsmen. Rather, they are identified as Nafiu Mohmmed (age 20), Mohammed Audu (age 20) and Buba Karba (age 17). That is how justice should be dispensed.
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