Serious : Measured words from Iran’s Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi and from Professor Vali Nasr
Vali Nasr on CNN’s GPS today …
and indeed the diplomatic talks about a nuclear deal should have taken place this Sunday , if the Israelis had not gone and mucked it up
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Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju,
I see that you have taken Nobel Laureate and peace activist Wole Soyinka’s old position on this matter, that either nobody should be allowed to have nuclear weapons or everybody should be entitled to have nuclear weapons. I say “old position” because I don’t know whether or not he has revised that position.
“why should there be a nuclear deal in the first place? are the various nuclear powers themselves disarming?”
Indeed, these are great questions, and since the leaders of the post-Zionist estate say that if there was ever a nuclear-weaponized Iran then the very existence /survival of God’s only chosen people would be in peril, these questions deserve a special chapter in a revised edition of Thomas Nagel’s Mortal Questions.
They are the sort of questions that you could have asked Commander-in-Chief Donald J Trump after he had taken the salute at the military parade, Tito style, and like the magnificent military parades at Red Square and the breathtakingly impressive Military parade in China which he witnessed the last time he was there, so too the wannabe American Monarch, Mensch and Messiah Donald J the First, the one and only Supreme Leader of Greatest America, president of the freewheeling word, President of the free world and the world yet to be born thought that the best way to celebrate his 79th Birthday would be a Military Parade by ( you can hear him chirping) “America First :The Greatest Military that this earth has ever known. The Greatest and the best. ”
The militarisation of his America. The chap in South Korea lost his oval chair after he tried to introduce martial law in that country. They gave him the boot. Perhaps ditto is waiting to happen with the Donald who, stage one, has called out the National Guard, in tune with the doctrine “Send the Marines” and if he doesn’t put his buddy Netanyahu on the leash or in chains he might have to proceed to stage 2 ( send the marines), this time to the Middle East when in fact it’s the best time for him (Trump) to pour oil on troubled waters because if he doesn’t do that and continues to sit in his oval chair, like ground zero, the ground may soon begin to tremble, to shake and shift beneath his feet.
“Mumbling by the tumbling tide
The king of America humbly cried
Save my soul, save it soon!
The king of America fell in swoon” ( Donovan )
Corrections:
Personally, I dig Pope Leo XIV.
From all points of view he’s a much better dude than the war criminal Netanyahu…
Secondly, the people of America have been making it clear to Trump - by their protests that he is not a king.They don’t want to have a king.
No Kings .
Since at a time of war, truth is the first to suffer (“in war, truth is the first casualty”) we’ve got to be very careful about the crap ( misinformation), especially with the Israeli and all too often the post-Holocaust, Western pro-Israel media propaganda swirling around, about the on-going Israel-Iran conflict. Last night, I read in SvD, that there are 4,000 Swedes living in Israel present-ly. You can imagine the kind of sympathy and empathy they would be eliciting with some tear-jerking reports about their having to run to the nearest bomb shelter at the sound of the siren announcing incoming Iranian ballistic missiles aiming to wipe them out, final solution, send them all to the dreaded Olam Ha-ba
These words from The Holy Quran, al-Baqarah 94-96 :
“ Say (unto them): If the abode of the Hereafter in the providence of Allah is indeed for you alone and not for others of mankind (as ye pretend), then long for death (for ye must long for death) if ye are truthful.
But they will never long for it, because of that which their own hands have sent before them. Allah is aware of evil-doers.
And thou wilt find them greediest of mankind for life and (greedier) than the idolaters. (Each) one of them would like to be allowed to live a thousand years. And to live (a thousand years) would by no means remove him from the doom. Allah is Seer of what they do.
This morning I watched BBC, CNN, Al-Jazeera and SVT 1 in that order, all about I & I , and, no love lost between them, it could have been reported “One said to the other, "No man sees my face and lives"
MEMRI’s partner MOSSAD has been operating in Iran since the days of Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, and with the air defence of the Islamic Republic down, this afternoon the miscreants started the terror-bombing ofTehran .
They want to do a repeat of what they did to Gaza.
There are also these words that occur in John 8:44 -The Gospel of John , albeit inspired by the Holy Spirit, said to be the most anti-Semitic of the Gospels 👍:
“You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and has nothing to do with the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a liar and the father of lies.”
Then perhaps LBC could be said to be sometimes “anti-Semitic “because according to LBC ( one of the UK’s very best),” Netanyahu is a liar”
Either that's true or he is too busy right now to take them to court for libel and slander.
But briefly, for the genesis of the whole project we have to go back to the Bible story celebrating the conquest of the seven nations of Canaan, and for the origin of the calumny/ paranoia “ Iran wants to wipe out Israel” we will have to go back to the heady days of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad who speaking Farsi/ Persian, made a political statement which was translated into English as him having said that he would like to “wipe Israel off the map” as if he meant that he would ”like to wipe Israel off the surface of the earth militarily - by nuclear holocaust etc , if need be, in the present circumstances the very real, poetic & metaphorical kind of sentiment that we should reasonably expect being expressed by e.g. Hamas, Hezbollah, Syria’s Bashar Al-Assad and the Revolutionary Guardians of Iran
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