Of Pope benedict and Baba obasanjo and more

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Augustine Togonu-Bickersteth

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Nov 1, 2023, 2:01:11 AM11/1/23
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Of Pope Benedict and Baba Obasanjo
1  The German Pope Benedict and the Nigeria  ex president Olusegun obasanjo both have PhDs in theology. 
Benedict wrote his PhD on  the house of God and Saint Augustines  Doctrine of the Church. Whereas Obasanjo wrote his pHD thesis on  Resolving the unfinished agenda in liberation theology.poverty and under development in North Eastern nigeria

2 POPE BENEFICT AND BABA  OBASNJO BOTH SPENT 8 YEARS IN OFFICE.

3 Pope benedict was elected Aprol 19 2005 and obsdajo wad elected  on April 19 2003.

4 Pope Benedict then the leader of 1.2 bilion catholics world wide and Obasanjo as president  of nigeria the torch bearer of 1.2 bilion  Africans and chairman African Union. Leader of 1.2 bilion  blacks world wide.

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 Perhaps because  Baba obasanjo is a Christian  he believes in the biblical injunction that  blessed are the peace makers  and so his many interventions in bringing peace locally,regionally national and globally like settling political family matters or  acts as moving to restore peace between the marauding cattle rearers in the north and feuding farmers in the south or outside the country  so far as Ethiopia and tigrisand even further.
A lucky Father and diligent one his children include Dr Aknwunmi Adesina, President of the African development bank and winner of the world food prize. A true son ofbjis father. . A chip of the old block. Mr Africa! THEN THERE IS EVEN Dr Ngozi okonjo iweala Director general of the world trade organisation  who has no money. Also amongst his children doing very well is charles Soludo .our own Charles! governor of Ananbra stsre not forgetting Aliko dangote Africa's richest man and Amina mohammed  deputy  secretary General of the united nations. Obasanjon puts parenting  on a pedestal. 
A farmer and therefore  a king ,born on market day at ibogun  of which he is the olori omo ilu  ibogun- olaogun .Obasanjo a soccer star, he could still be found dressing like the youths he is out to encourage to embrace Agriculture.

In one of his outings to his Farm  in ibogun  that went viral he was found in a Texas cowboy hat ,polaroid sun glases,,short sleeves and  American  khaki shorts and perhaps a pair of snickers .
General  olusegun obasanjo is the worlds greatest  living farmer, the personification of melting swords into ploughshares.  He  has now positioned himself to revive  the textile and garment  business in nigeria via an ADIRE  revolution.he has done it before with a telecommunications revolution.he could  again!
Obasanjo exemplifies what has been stated by General mark Clark and General colinn powell both of the .usa army. Clark said A leader is able to all that he asks of his followers  and more.

In the words of powell A leader is one of the troops but above them.

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Nov 2, 2023, 3:13:12 AM11/2/23
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Augustine Togonu-Bickersteth,


Please!  


There’s much to comment on regarding some of the unwarranted hagiographic tendencies which you exhibit in your latest submission. To begin with, Joseph Ratzinger is a brilliant Roman Catholic theologian and after zapping through his Introduction to Christianity, I predicted in a Saro forum that when the conclave met, he would be elected the next Pope.


Preacherman Segun Obasanjo Ph.D. (theology) and Nigeria’s cadre of affluent pastors are also personally aware that Jesus said, ” It is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.”  Nevertheless, Brer Obasanjo's take on applied Liberation Liberation Theology which was erstwhile mostly anathema to the Church of Rome should be interesting, bearing in mind Hélder Câmara famously quipping, “When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist. When I feed the poor, they call me a saint. But when I ask why the poor are hungry, they call me a communist.”


BTW,  thanks to that Toyin Falola Conversation with Bishop Kukah I would like to read a book / rather than an academic thesis) written by Bishop Kukah on the subject matter covered by Brer Obasanjo's Doctoral Thesis “Resolving the unfinished agenda in liberation theology, poverty and under development in North Eastern Nigeria”- and of course, from the Muslim perspective -in the spirit of Abu Dharr al-Ghifari, would like the same area covered by someone like the former Emir of Kano…


I suppose Brere Obasnajo’s thesis must have been more focused on Black Theology and  Black Liberation Theology 


Have you read Bere Obsanjo’s braggadocio account of the Biafra War in which  -glory be to me, he decorates himself with the title of the book: My Command: An Account of the Nigerian Civil War, 1967 - 1970?


Have you read his My Watch


Cornelius Ignoramus  hasn’t read either book but has read Baba Kadiri’s comments on Brer Obasanjo and his comments on both books in which he takes great care to contrast and separate the reality truths of what accurately happened from Brer Obasnajo’s authorised versions in which  with considerable self-esteem Brere Obsanjo apparently marinades his own self-congratulatory personal truths garnished with some of the palm oil and choice spices of fictions, all  to his own advantage of course 


Augustine Togonu-Bickersteth, once again you should be cautioned about using words recklessly

 

Please examine your conscience and then tell us in all honesty what you mean by attributing to Brer Obasanjo, the title of “Leader of 1.2 billion  blacks world wide” 

Augustine Togonu-Bickersteth

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Nov 2, 2023, 3:55:33 AM11/2/23
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Thanks Mr cornelius  Hamelberg   for honouring me with criticisms they are most welcome. I meant to refer to Obasanjo as the then de facto torch bearer of 1.2 billion blacks world wide on account of being the then  migeriann president. Since nigeria is the worlds most populous black country and the sleeping giant of Africa.i have only made comparisons the facts are there  to be  verified.  Soyinka famously said God moves in a mischievous way.  
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Nov 3, 2023, 5:15:58 AM11/3/23
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BTW, I’m more than willing to concede Jagaban’s current leadership….


By analogy and by the same token by which you gave Pastor Obasanjo the title “Leader of the Black Race” ( I almost prayed “ God forbid”) on whom would you like to confer the title “Leader of the White Race “? 


I suppose in the name of White Supremacy the Grand Wizard of the Klan aspires to such a title?


In which case going a few years back the extent of his dominion would have been contested by His Excellency, President for Life, Field Marshal Al Hajj Doctor Idi Amin Dada, VC, DSO, MC, Lord of all the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Sea and Conqueror of the British Empire in Africa in General and Uganda in Particular.


Once at my late mentor’s studio where he usually held house - it was a full house, nearly every nation was there (a veritable tower of Babel/ babble) but there was clearly a Black majority of people being represented there on that particular day and just to get some attention I sort of coughed lightly, wanted to say something really significant to that parliament of nations and began “We the Black people…” when I heard Harvey’s voice sharp and clear shouting from the other end of the room, ”Don’t bring your racism here !


It eventually got to a point where sometimes at your regular assemblies - sitting together up there at the studio everybody talking at the same time, the feather system was introduced  - for a while - you wanted to say something, you had to raise a feather; the father got passed around -  like Marlow’s ”pass the bottle”.


Sometimes handy: Latin phrases




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Augustine Togonu-Bickersteth

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Nov 3, 2023, 11:33:37 AM11/3/23
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Mr. cornelius Hamelberg  i refer not to the person who is president  but position  of president.. now that he is no longer  president  he ceases to be given that title
Of leader  of yhe black  world.  Today he is ebora owu
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Nov 3, 2023, 6:27:24 PM11/3/23
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Augustine Togonu-Bickersteth,


This is a temporary and undeserved minor diversion from the devil at work with full diabolic force on this Sabbath day, in GAZA 


Idiosyncratic is, as Idiosyncratic does. 


The following should not be taken as unwarranted criticism: 


I dare myself to dilate on the topic, ever so briefly, to begin by retitling the subject “Pope Benedict and Pastor Obasanjo -I don’t have much to say about the former Pope except that  - all sins forgiven, I used to refer to him reverentially as “Pope Benedictus Erectus”, and was not much amused by Shaykh Dr Abdalqadir as-Sufi’s irreverent article about Pope Benedict, entitled  Papal Bull and referring to him as “The little ex-Hitler Youth” At least you can’t say that about Baba Obasanjo, or that “ He made one important announcement for a continent crippled with the doctrines of bankism, poverty, genocide, and sexual anarchy with its pandemic disease. Africa, he declared, had to cure itself of witchcraft and the practices of magic.”


His resignation as Pope remains a mystery. In that respect too he differs radically from Baba Obasanjo who wouldn't deign to contemplate such a terrible idea as that God forbid, he should resign, to his mind, the sordid idea of him resigning from the presidency being anathema to his soul, possibly believing that if he did so, if he resigned as President of Nigeria etc, God would never forgive him…


When you say that “Soyinka famously said God moves in a mischievous way”, naturally, some of the ignoramuses and the Bible-thumpers must be wondering exactly which God he has in mind when he makes that kind of allegation. Of course, he must have been referring to the one and only Eshu 


Understandably, you have not misquoted Baba Soyinka, otherwise, what are we to make of this kind of calumny directed against your Baba Obasanjo whom you decorate as  “torch bearer of 1.2 billion  Africans and chairman of the African Union. Leader of 1.2 billion  blacks world wide.”:  Soyinka blasts Obasanjo, says he’s a compulsive liar


You see, like everyone else, I’m a little biased. You would be too, after reading Jon Fosse’s A New Name ( The thing of course is to find and to be one’s own voice, your own voice, an authentic voice and not to be perpetually what Fela refers to as “Mr. Follow-Follow" (Jesus and his disciples) Kumuyi, Pastor Obasanjo worst case scenario, Zombie. You do remember that Wole Soyinka wrote to Obasanjo - well, I remember well, his message was straight and clear: Just Go! Get up and go


It’s the same directive that Brer Netayayahu’s unwilling ears will be hearing in the coming weeks, he’s the fall guy, they are going to blame it all on him and send him off into the wilderness, like Azazel


The fact of the matter is, that in Pastor Obasanjo's case, zombie style, Pastor Obasanjo noh go go unless Jesus tell am for go.


Chidi-like

The bird flew 

Peter denied Jesus

the cock crowed:

Name me someone that's not a parasite and I'll go out and say a prayer for him.” 


Words, words, words. After all, in sum total, isn’t that what the scriptures are, collected documents, big and small, of big and little words, some in Hebrew, some in Greek, some in Latin, although Jesus only spoke  Aramaic. Nowadays, in Nigeria, sermons are being mostly delivered in BIg Grammar English, and it still puzzles me why major Nigerian pastors don’t convey the message in the vernacular, but continue to convey the message in Nigeria’s official language, which I suppose is for them, is also, possibly the language of the heart, if not wholly the language of the mind. I believe that when people start being awarded Phds in Patois and in Broken English, some pastors will start feeling that it’s equally dignified to convey the Gospel message to their people in their own mother tongue and in  the vernacular 


Yes indeed, words. Take the word parasite for example, in some of the more or the less advanced countries that can boast of a social welfare system, some of the haves already look down with contempt on some on the have-nots and particularly those people who literally speaking, for their day to day survival depend on the social welfare system, are sometimes referred to as scroungers,  more often than not, as “parasites”. Not unsurprisingly for example  there was a time in the life of Nobel Literature Laureate Joseph Brodsky was charged with “social parasitism” and sentenced to five years of hard labour by the then Soviet Authorities


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