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Heather Piwowar

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May 30, 2020, 6:25:44 PM5/30/20
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Which parts of Unsub do you find confusing?  We'll try to explain them here, and your feedback will also help us learn what needs better documentation!

Heather

Eric Schares

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Jul 13, 2020, 8:36:08 PM7/13/20
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I would like more information on the following topics:
  • An explanation of the column use_asns_percent
  • More detail on the modeling process for each journal and institution to make the five-year projection

Jason Priem

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Jul 13, 2020, 8:49:38 PM7/13/20
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Hi Eric,
Thanks for the feedback! FWIW, the column use_asns_percent is the projected usage that can be fulfilled by academic social networks (ASNs) like ResearchGate or Academia.edu. Some folks included this as open access; others do not. We include it by default but you can exclude it in your scenario parameters.

Do you have any specific questions we could focus on more, when it comes to "More detail on the modeling process?" We've included some answer to this in the KB, but would love to improve that coverage. Specific areas where you have questions (if there are any) can help with that.

Thanks again for the feedback!
j

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Eric Schares

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Jul 14, 2020, 11:23:48 AM7/14/20
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Hi Jason,

I now see the explanation of columns in Download as Spreadsheet in the KB.  Thanks!

In terms of the modeling process, I'm interested in understanding more about how you can take COUNTER and price data, and project each individual journal's profile for my specific institution over the next five years.  The only mentions in the KB I could find are:
  • (From ILL): For each journal we forecast this number of views for each of the next five years, scaling it by the growth in articles published by that journal over the last five years
  • Where do we get your faculty's citation and authorship data? - from Microsoft Academic Graph
For example, our Elsevier scenario has 431 titles that we subscribe to ala-carte.  Do you model each of those journals individually, while also taking into account Iowa State's unique reading, citing, and publishing profile in that journal?  Does our projected 5-year average usage for a journal look different from, say, Michigan State's?  Or does the model only scale the COUNTER downloads by the historical increase in articles published by that journal, regardless of each campus' individual publishing profile?

Just curious, and wanting to understand further.

Thanks,
Eric

On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 7:49:38 PM UTC-5, Jason Priem wrote:
Hi Eric,
Thanks for the feedback! FWIW, the column use_asns_percent is the projected usage that can be fulfilled by academic social networks (ASNs) like ResearchGate or Academia.edu. Some folks included this as open access; others do not. We include it by default but you can exclude it in your scenario parameters.

Do you have any specific questions we could focus on more, when it comes to "More detail on the modeling process?" We've included some answer to this in the KB, but would love to improve that coverage. Specific areas where you have questions (if there are any) can help with that.

Thanks again for the feedback!
j

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I would like more information on the following topics:
  • An explanation of the column use_asns_percent
  • More detail on the modeling process for each journal and institution to make the five-year projection

On Saturday, May 30, 2020 at 5:25:44 PM UTC-5, Heather Piwowar wrote:


Which parts of Unsub do you find confusing?  We'll try to explain them here, and your feedback will also help us learn what needs better documentation!

Heather

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Jason Priem

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Jul 16, 2020, 9:15:05 PM7/16/20
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Hi Eric,
Thanks for the clarification! My responses are inline below:

On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 8:23 AM Eric Schares <esch...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Jason,

I now see the explanation of columns in Download as Spreadsheet in the KB.  Thanks!

👍
 

In terms of the modeling process, I'm interested in understanding more about how you can take COUNTER and price data, and project each individual journal's profile for my specific institution over the next five years.  The only mentions in the KB I could find are:
  • (From ILL): For each journal we forecast this number of views for each of the next five years, scaling it by the growth in articles published by that journal over the last five years
  • Where do we get your faculty's citation and authorship data? - from Microsoft Academic Graph
For example, our Elsevier scenario has 431 titles that we subscribe to ala-carte.  Do you model each of those journals individually, while also taking into account Iowa State's unique reading, citing, and publishing profile in that journal? 

Yes
 
Does our projected 5-year average usage for a journal look different from, say, Michigan State's?

Yes. Different institutions can have wildly different forecast projections (and often do). One commonality is that they can generally cut their Big Deal and still meet most demand (as you at Iowa State already know). But outside of that very broad generalization, the specifics vary quite a lot.
 
  Or does the model only scale the COUNTER downloads by the historical increase in articles published by that journal, regardless of each campus' individual publishing profile?

Nope, it's very customized. See above. 
 

Just curious, and wanting to understand further.

Glad you asked! We'll work on making this more clear in the KB.
j
 
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Heather Piwowar

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Jul 19, 2020, 12:09:24 PM7/19/20
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Hi Sue, 

Yes for sure.  We use ROR, which is mapped to GRID.  So for uvic.ca we use the ROR 04s5mat29 which maps to the GRID ID https://grid.ac/institutes/grid.143640.4  which is how MAG associates its papers with UVic.

You can go to MAG to search for University of Victoria (here) and then on the right it has a box for the university.  Click on its name and you come to this page for the uni.  If you scroll down it lists papers and authors, so you can do QA there.

Hope that helps!

Heather


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Hi

 

I’d like to understand a little bit more around how the university affiliation works in Unsub and if it is possible to see how variations of the org name are captured.

 

I come from a university that shares a name w/ a university in Texas and one in NZ and we haven’t had a great experience with WoS’ Enhanced Org index e.g. with misspellings in schools that resulted in hits being omitted and false positive where hits were included from Texas and NZ.

 

I understand that the data is from MS Academic Graph (MAG) but do you know if there is a quick and easy way to view select data for a particular university?

Thanks so much
Sue

 

Jessica Harris

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Jul 19, 2020, 1:05:27 PM7/19/20
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This was a very helpful question & response. There are several ROR IDs that we would like to add to our University of Chicago instance, but when I click to add a new ID, it says that this feature is coming soon. Is there an estimated date as to when this ability to add new ROR IDs would be available to us?

 

Jessica Harris

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The University of Chicago Library

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ja...@uchicago.edu

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Heather Piwowar

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Jul 19, 2020, 1:10:48 PM7/19/20
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Hi Jessica, 

I'm glad!  Probably not for a few months -- we are pretty swamped.  Sorry about that!  If there are others who would like that feature though, speak up, it'll help us prioritize.

In the meantime we can do it behind the scenes.  If you want to email us the RORs you would like to add, you can do that:  te...@ourresearch.org
It will still take us a few weeks to get to it right now, but we'll add it to the queue :)

Heather

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Jessica Harris

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Jul 20, 2020, 12:21:44 PM7/20/20
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Thank you for your response, Heather. We’re working on finding all of the ROR IDs that should be affiliated with our institution.

 

The relationships listed on the GRID site help. My supervisor also recommended using a search we created for Scopus to find all affiliations, but Scopus uses AF-IDs (Affiliation IDs), rather than GRID or ROR IDs. Are you (or anyone on this list) familiar with this? Is there a way that we’d be able to connect an AF-ID with a GRID or ROR ID? For instance, our Scopus search for the University of Chicago looks like this (the 8-digit number is the AF-ID for each unit):

 

( AF-ID ( "University of Chicago"  60029278 )  OR  AF-ID ( "University of Chicago Pritzker School of Medicine"  60007541 )  OR  AF-ID ( "University of Chicago Medical Center"  60011092 )  OR  AF-ID ( "University of Chicago Hospitals"  60012480 )  OR  AF-ID ( "The University of Chicago Comer Children's Hospital"  60020643 )  OR  AF-ID ( "National Opinion Research Center Chicago"  60006805 )  OR  AF-ID ( "Argonne Cancer Research Hospital"  60101910 )  OR  AF-ID ( "Franklin McLean Memorial Research Institute"  60074358 ) OR AF-ID ( "University of Chicago Cancer Research Center" 60009617 ) OR AF-ID ( "University of Chicago Department of Medicine" 60027147 ) OR AF-ID ( "University of Chicago Center for Advanced Radiation Sources" 60074607 ) OR AF-ID ( "University of Chicago-UTCC Research Center" 60091567 ) OR AF-ID ( "Chapin Hall at the University of Chicago" 60098092 ))

 

Thank you for your help with this.

 

Jessica Harris

Electronic Resources Management Librarian

The University of Chicago Library

773-702-0228

ja...@uchicago.edu

 

Heather Piwowar

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Jul 21, 2020, 4:53:15 PM7/21/20
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Glad it was helpful!

We don't know how to map Scopus AF-IDs to ROR or GRID IDs. Might be a good question for Scopus support, they might have something in the works?

Heather

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Ricky Patterson

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Jul 31, 2020, 10:31:41 AM7/31/20
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For the authorship and citation data from MAG, what year ranges are you including (how far back in time do you look to see if an institution-affiliated researcher was an author, or a citer, in/to a given journal?)

Thanks,
Ricky

Heather Piwowar

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Jul 31, 2020, 10:45:02 AM7/31/20
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Good question!  Five years.

Heather


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