Re: An upcoming Jeopardy! guest host

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JW

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Feb 2, 2021, 7:17:21 PM2/2/21
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Mark Jeffries

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Feb 2, 2021, 7:45:18 PM2/2/21
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There is going to be criticism over Dr. Oz as a guest host, but he does work for Sony, so...

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Paul Murray

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Feb 3, 2021, 3:19:44 PM2/3/21
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The thread on r/Jeopardy is quite unhappy about Dr. Oz's inclusion, and someone there cited a similar reaction on Facebook. "Alex was all about FACTS" is a common theme. And yes, the Sony relationship was noted.

Most of the others are producing shrugs, with Anderson Cooper drawing some enthusiasm.

Honestly, Ken Jennings is exceeding my expectations, and I'd be happy if he ultimately gets the gig full-time.

Tom Wolper

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Feb 3, 2021, 3:37:28 PM2/3/21
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On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 3:19 PM Paul Murray <pmur...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
The thread on r/Jeopardy is quite unhappy about Dr. Oz's inclusion, and someone there cited a similar reaction on Facebook. "Alex was all about FACTS" is a common theme. And yes, the Sony relationship was noted.

Most of the others are producing shrugs, with Anderson Cooper drawing some enthusiasm.

Honestly, Ken Jennings is exceeding my expectations, and I'd be happy if he ultimately gets the gig full-time.

Ken retweeted the Jeopardy announcement when it came out and the responses were all about Dr Oz. I agree Ken has quickly fit in as host. I listened to a long form with Alex on Nerdist years ago and they asked him what will happen when he is no longer hosting. Alex said it will be easier than people think to find someone who can read clues. There's more to it than that, of course, but Alex never thought he was irreplaceable.

Jim Ellwanger

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Feb 4, 2021, 1:58:33 PM2/4/21
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Word is that "Jeopardy!" released their most recent list of guest hosts AFTER Dr. Oz had taped his week's worth of shows, so complaints on social media are moot.



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Dino Alexander

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Feb 4, 2021, 2:01:18 PM2/4/21
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This is where I put on my dad face.

I'm not surprised...

... just disappointed.

~D

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Bob Jersey

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Mar 25, 2021, 4:50:32 PM3/25/21
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Variety op-ed tells us what we already know...


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Jim Ellwanger

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Mar 25, 2021, 5:00:06 PM3/25/21
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I do agree with much of the piece, but I disagree with using this to make a point:

Those seeking to find fault in his first couple of episodes by looking closely at his interjecting himself into the gameplay, adding unwanted or unneeded context after correct answers, will find it.

Trebek would add frequently add context after contestants' answers (for example, a first name if the contestant had only given a last name), at what seems to me about the same rate that Dr. Oz has been doing it. I suspect what one viewer finds "unwanted or unneeded," another viewer will find to be something that helps them remember, "oh, yeah, it's THAT person."


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Ben Scripps

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Mar 25, 2021, 8:53:38 PM3/25/21
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On Mar 25, 2021, at 4:59 PM, Jim Ellwanger <trai...@ellwanger.tv> wrote:
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> I do agree with much of the piece, but I disagree with using this to make a point:
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>> Those seeking to find fault in his first couple of episodes by looking closely at his interjecting himself into the gameplay, adding unwanted or unneeded context after correct answers, will find it.
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> Trebek would add frequently add context after contestants' answers (for example, a first name if the contestant had only given a last name), at what seems to me about the same rate that Dr. Oz has been doing it. I suspect what one viewer finds "unwanted or unneeded," another viewer will find to be something that helps them remember, "oh, yeah, it's THAT person."

I'm gonna disagree with you on that one. I've no problem whatsoever with the expansion of a last name only response to first and last names, but it seems to me like both Oz and Katie Couric have added more "explainers" in their time--if a player rings in and says "Who was Lincoln?", I don't want the host to say "That's right--he was at Ford's Theatre seeing 'Our American Cousin' when Booth shot him". I don't recall Trebek doing that very often, and when he did, it was usually during Final, where it doesn't really disrupt the rhythm of the game. When I was on, the contestant coordinator flat out told us when selecting clues to shorten the category names and values ("Rivers for sixteen" instead of "South American Rivers for sixteen hundred") and to not say "please" because every second counts when you're playing the game--those little host tidbits could literally change the outcome of the game.

One thing I'd really, really like to see is a guest host capable of even a moderate understanding of the scoring. Alex understood the scoring system well--you could hear the disapproval in his voice when a player down by $9,000 in Double would hit a late Daily Double and wager too small ("Just $1200? Okay."), and you could hear the approval when a third place player in Final would wager just enough to get into a strategic position ("Interesting wager; we'll see if it works out"). In tonight's Final, Oz sounded positively astonished when the third place player revealed he'd wagered everything, which would put him into first place with a correct response.

PGage

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Mar 25, 2021, 9:21:31 PM3/25/21
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I agree with this. And it makes me wonder if recordings of shows from Alex’s first season would show a similar lack of fluency with the nuances. I remember how much we (my grandpa and I) initially disliked Alex, but can’t remember if we had any concrete evidence, or just missed Art.

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One thing I'd really, really like to see is a guest host capable of even a moderate understanding of the scoring.  Alex understood the scoring system well--you could hear the disapproval in his voice when a player down by $9,000 in Double would hit a late Daily Double and wager too small ("Just $1200?  Okay."), and you could hear the approval when a third place player in Final would wager just enough to get into a strategic position ("Interesting wager; we'll see if it works out").  In tonight's Final, Oz sounded positively astonished when the third place player revealed he'd wagered everything, which would put him into first place with a correct response.
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Dave Sikula

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Mar 25, 2021, 9:31:27 PM3/25/21
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My guess is that the producers were tired of Jeopardy being thought of as a game for eggheads, so they were trying to invite in the demo of stupid people.

Looks like it didn't work.

--Dave Sikua

David Bruggeman

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Mar 25, 2021, 9:34:24 PM3/25/21
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Alex had about a decade of game show experience before starting Jeopardy!  I'd think that any rustiness in his first season would have to be specific to the game.

David

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