When large fires decimate woods, guess what follows

[Bob Jersey]

Yup, flooding and mudslides. PCH got closed in spots.

THR (link)

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[Doug Eastick]

if it wasn't for the weather (when, often, very nice) and majestic scenery, some might say "why would you live near that terrain - some day you are just gonna get f**ked, either with fire or slides"

(Doug says from the safe haven of Northern Ontario, which is either covered in snow(*), or exposed trees with rock and many many many  freshwater lakes).  I'd have to do some investigation and math, but I'm not sure if I have an elevation differential within 2 hrs drive that matches the Pacific to the Hollywood sign.

(*) fyi.... 15-20cm of snow due tomorrow.   That's 8-10 inches in American.

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[Kevin M.]

On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 4:36 PM Doug Eastick <eas...@mcd.on.ca> wrote:

if it wasn't for the weather (when, often, very nice) and majestic scenery, some might say "why would you live near that terrain - some day you are just gonna get f**ked, either with fire or slides"

(Doug says from the safe haven of Northern Ontario, which is either covered in snow(*), or exposed trees with rock and many many many  freshwater lakes).  I'd have to do some investigation and math, but I'm not sure if I have an elevation differential within 2 hrs drive that matches the Pacific to the Hollywood sign.

(*) fyi.... 15-20cm of snow due tomorrow.   That's 8-10 inches in American.

You kids, with your crazy metric system.

Problem is most of what caught fire the last two big go-‘rounds was not really what one would typically describe as forest, it was wooded areas nestled among residential areas of the state, which is why the damage was so extreme. The big electric company in California is poised to sell off chunks of the business because it turns out their infrastructure directly contributed to the fires, and they are about to get hit with lawsuits. 

California went through a major drought, followed by record rainfall. That led to stuff growing where stuff hadn’t grown in a long time. That provided abnormally large fuel for the subsequent fires. Short of closing the state, there was no way to avoid catastrophe. Now they have the flash flooding, as soil held together by lush brush and roots is now just sliding freely under the weight of any amount of rain. It is a Russian nesting doll of devastation. 

That’s the weather, now here’s Dave with sports... 

On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 10:12 AM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <tvor...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Yup, flooding and mudslides. PCH got closed in spots.

THR (link)

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[PGage]

I mostly agree withKevin PG&E’s archaic equipment is also responsible for the devastating Napa fire last year). But it is also true that the Malibu Colony predictably deal with cycles of fire and mudslides. But Kevin is absolutely right that the fire danger in CA has reached unusual proportions, due to drought and (don’t say it to loud) climate change...

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[Bob Jersey]

PG&E agrees to a $55mil settlement (paid to the involved counties, nonprofits and educational orgs) to end the Dixie and Kincade fire investigations (they would have ended up paying the state only a fraction of that had the prosecutions gone through)... they can not pass the liability on to customers... they also owe the state utility commission $125mil in a separate settlement over Kincade...

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-04-11/pg-e-avoids-criminal-prosecution-for-starting-two-wildfires (link)     B

PGage, to Kevin M, Doug Eastick and moi, Jan 7th 2019: