Of course he went there: Oliver rips D!ck Wolf

[Bob Jersey]

Dude, it's scripted television. Nobody will watch if the script truly reflects reality. Deal with it. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/john-oliver-law-and-order-dick-wolf-police-portayal-1235217673/ (link)     B

[Mark Jeffries]

And to anyone who would say "If Dick Wolf worked for WBD, would Oliver say anything?"--yes, he would.  Going back to his many shots at "Entourage."  There are probably those who are wishing he'd start attacking Bill Maher, except that are also those who think it would be a staged feud.

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On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 9:11 AM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <tvor...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Dude, it's scripted television. Nobody will watch if the script truly reflects reality. Deal with it. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/john-oliver-law-and-order-dick-wolf-police-portayal-1235217673/ (link)     B

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Bill Maher is best ignored.

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[Diner]

Interesting to see this now. I'm catching up on the last season of "L&O: Organized Crime" - I have 4 or 5 episodes to finish before it expires from Hulu in a week - and I am finding the story arc about police corruption and the officers' Mafia-like code of silence surprisingly critical of the police. (Though the criticism is directed at rank-and-file officers, not the police administration.) Not to mention the recurring plotline about Sergeant Bell's wife suing the NYPD for police brutality.

[PGage]

I thought Oliver just killed it last night, both with his main segment on L&O and his A segment taking down new UK PM Liz Truss. My only note would be that, as pervasive as Dick Wolf TV is, there are lots of other cop shows in that Dragnet-L&O police propaganda line.

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[Adam Bowie]

I'm curious. In the UK, Sky made a clear edit to remove the section where Oliver talked about the death of the Queen. Although I suspect it was removed due to cautiousness rather than anything Oliver said.

(Side note: On Thursday evening I was walking around the side of Broadcasting House in London where audience members were queuing up to see The News Quiz recorded for broadcast the following day in the Radio Theatre. Although news of the Queen's death hadn't been definitively announced at that point, I was confident that the recording would be cancelled. A short while later after the news had broken, I returned to the front of the building where Andy Zaltzman and the rest of the team were leaving early. They were off to the pub. The recording had indeed being cancelled.)

Adam

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[PGage]

Adam, I thought Oliver was very circumspect, and I am surprised they censored it. He made two basic comments as I recall, one ironically observing the shock with which the world media reacted to the news that a 96 year old woman died of natural causes, and a second (prefaced with a caution that it may be offensive, so I guess this was the part that was censored) was that the nicest thing QE2 ever did for anybody was dying in the week that Liz Truss became PM, to save the PM for much deserved ridicule for how awful she is.

Maybe the most notable thing was that Oliver did not make any formal notice or offer any solemn condolences on his former Queen’s death (or maybe he’s a dual citizen and still a subject?)

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[Bob Jersey]

US only, as of Dec 13th 2019. Can't remember posting the article (which includes a video with a bit about the Queen's expressions, or more correctly, lack thereof... stiff upper lip), so here'tis again: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-features/watch-america-john-oliver-is-officially-a-us-citizen-now-1273984/ (link)
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PGage, to Adam Bowie, in part, Sept 12th:

[Adam Bowie]

Worth noting that just because he's a US citizen, that doesn't prevent him from also remaining a UK citizen. I'd be amazed if he didn't hang onto both passports if for no other reason than getting into either country is much easier with the a local passport. 

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[Adam Bowie]

I see that it's now a Deadline "Exclusive" that Sky cut John Oliver on the Queen.

Never let it be said that we don't break entertainment news here first...!

https://deadline.com/2022/09/sky-queen-elizabeth-ii-john-oliver-last-week-tonight-1235117174/

[Mark Jeffries]

We can assume that if "Have I Got News for You" was going to start a new series last week, it was called off.

And here in the states, on a 1980 episode of "Whew!" on BUZZR this morning, two "bloopers" about the Royals perhaps went by most contemporary viewers (as few as they probably are) unnoticed:  In the front game, "At the age of 25 Princess Elizabeth became frumpy" (the correct answer being Queen, of course) and in the end game, "Queen Elizabeth's husband Prince Phillip is also the Prince Daddy" (Consort?  Prince of Wales was buzzed and the character generator that showed the correct answers in the end game was broken--Tom Kennedy said that viewers could send a self-addressed stamped envelope to the producers if they wanted the correct answers).

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[David Lynch]

On Sep 13, 2022, at 03:36, Adam Bowie <ad...@adambowie.co.uk> wrote:

Worth noting that just because he's a US citizen, that doesn't prevent him from also remaining a UK citizen. I'd be amazed if he didn't hang onto both passports if for no other reason than getting into either country is much easier with the a local passport. 

From my understanding as the child of a UK-born naturalized American, he exists in a quantum superposition—he both is and is not a British citizen. The US requires you to say you’re giving up your other citizenship(s) when you become naturalized, so Washington would say that he’s a US citizen and only a US citizen. UK law either explicitly says that natural-born citizens can’t give up their citizenship or doesn’t provide a practical means to do it, so His Majesty’s Government still considers him a citizen. You aren’t required to give up your old passport when being naturalized, but applying for a new one or using other benefits of citizenship such as voting has been used against people who found themselves in trouble for other reasons.

Personally, I’m just kind of pissed off that the Home Office won’t let me get a British passport either because they respect the US stance on multiple-nationality or have been pushed into it by a treaty, even though I would be eligible for one in the majority of other countries.