kindaTV: Canada soccer today

[Doug Eastick]

CBC has a podcast episode today (~25 mins long) about the Canada vs Messi (argentina) game tonight.   They speak about the recent history of the Canadian team and performance.    

The reason I'm sharing this to this list is that there is a few minutes where they speak about Fox Sports coverage.   Fox commentators blatantly doing fox-ish things saying 'It should be America playing, not Canada'.     I didn't realise that hate had oozed from the news division to the sports division of Fox.

Canada vs. Messi, Argentina | CBC Radio

Canadian TV on TSN and CTV2 at 8pm tonight.

USA tv on Fox (sports?)

[Mark Jeffries]

FS1 and Univision in Spanish.the

Basically, for Copa America Fox has only aired U.S. matches on the mainline network, although the final will be on mainline Fox. That's in line with how they cover the men's and women's World Cup.

Mark Jeffries
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[John Edwards]

American announcers being homers is nothing new. It's why Olympic coverage is often unwatchable.

American soccer commentators seem to think (wrongly) that the US actually is among the top 8 in the world, so the idea that they crashed out of the group stages of Copa America is *really* bad to them. This was supposed to be America showing the world that it could win against real opposition, not just the weak sauce in CONCACAF, in the lead up to the 2026 World Cup which they are hosting. For bonus fun, check out the meltdown by Taylor Twellman after the US failed to qualify for the 2018 World Cup. The mentality hasn't changed.

The other thing that adds to this, among followers of the US men's national team, is that Canada's new coach, Jesse Marsch, is an American, and was briefly in the running for the national team head coaching job a couple of years ago - when they decided to just rehire Gregg Berhalter instead. So there would be some on Fox, likely, who are thinking that had Marsch got the job that he would have led the USA!USA!USA! to the semis, rather than Canada.

I hope Canada upsets Argentina so they can cry harder. 

John

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[Doug Eastick]

on the podcast they do talk about the new coach Jesse Marsch.

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[Tom Wolper]

Things aren’t what they were 20 years ago for American viewers of soccer. Casual fans can watch the English Premier League on NBC/Peacock, the German and Spanish leagues on ESPN+, the UEFA Champions League on CBS/Paramount+, and lots of other elite play streaming somewhere. Ex-US players might be homers but who expects otherwise?

FOX has had some non-US games on the OTA network in the early round. If the US or Mexico had moved on to the elimination rounds they might have put those games on broadcast.

The problem FOX has is they’re covering both the Euro Championship and the Copa America and they have to go to freelancers for both the booth and the studio shows. They just can’t build a connection with the audience (actually 2 audiences for the 2 competitions) the way NBC has for the Premier League. The result is second rate coverage.

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[Tom Wolper]

Having watched both tournaments and read some media criticism, I figured out one reason FOX is so poor at soccer coverage. They recruited a lot of retired US Team players for the booth and the studio and none of the ex-players are good broadcasters. No matter how well they played they have no charisma on the mic and no skill for describing the game in a compelling way.