Wanda Sykes quits 'Roseanne' after Barr's Twitter rant

[Steve Timko]

Bunch of bizarre tweets. A reminder she is mentally ill.

http://money.cnn.com/2018/05/29/media/roseanne-twitter-chelsea-clinton/index.html

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[Kevin M.]

Racism is better classified as stupidity rather than mental illness. 

Then again, when Wanda Sykes thinks you’ve crossed the line, you’ve got to reevaluate your grasp on reality. 

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[Kevin M.]

Gilbert weighs in, falling short of saying she will quit the series 

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/amp/news/roseanne-barr-targets-obama-adviser-racially-charged-planet-apes-tweet-1115319

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[Bob Jersey]

ABC sacks the show.

Variety (link)

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> ABC sacks the show.
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> Variety <http://variety.com/2018/tv/news/roseanne-canceled-abc-1202824211/>
> (link)

Actions still have consequences. At least for now.

~D

[stannc]

I was hoping that it was Gilbert Gottfried who weighed in.

-Stan

[PGage]

Wow, this was a rapidly advancing story - seems like less than 12 hours from racist tweet to show cancellation.

I believe Rosanne is mentally ill - that is not based on her racist comments, and may in many respects be unrelated to her racist comments. It is just true I think (I don’t mean that in my professional judgement she is mentally ill, but that I think she has been judged mentally ill by examining professionals).

This is relevant not as an excuse for her comments, but as the reason why she probably is not stable enough to be in the high powered glare of a top rated broadcast TV show. As I have noted here previously, it is a shame because she really is a talented comic, and has a much-needed voice in many respects. I was hoping she would be well enough to do the White House Corrospondent’s Gig next year (I suppose she still might, though I hope her friends help her make some good decisions for herself).

I don’t care about the show, and the Trump Resistance will be played out in more important arenas than this. I do care about Roseanne Barr as a person, and this is the kind of thing that could knock her over the edge.

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[Steve Timko]

Being racist doesn't qualify you as mentally ill, but my sense is Roseanne is not racist 24/7. It oozes out of her when she cycles into a mental illness phase. Like maybe she is off her meds or developed resistance to them.

[Steve Timko]

Ken Jennings FTW.

https://twitter.com/KenJennings/status/1001483573004767232?s=19

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[Kevin M.]

What Roseanne has said and done in recent years has been consistent... her Tweets today were neither new nor worse than things she’s posted prior. This is who she is, emboldened — maybe — by the racist in the White House, but this is who she is. 

What is going to suck is ABC will be forgiven for putting on her show now that she’s crossed whatever arbitrary line she crossed that forced them to pull it. Sorry, but I don’t credit them for solving a problem they created. 

Here’s what needs to happen next:

The Blackish “take a knee” episode needs to air in Roseanne’s time slot. 

Whomever gave Roseanne’s reboot the green light at ABC should be fired.

Whomever blocked the airing of the Blackish “take a knee” episode should be fired. 

[stannc]

There. I feel better now.

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10155570336272205&id=59736317204&substory_index=0

-Stan

[Kevin M.]

On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 12:45 PM stannc <sta...@gmail.com> wrote:

There. I feel better now.

Gilbert is clearly a TVorNotTV lurker. 

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10155570336272205&id=59736317204&substory_index=0

-Stan

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[Kevin M.]

ICM has dropped Roseanne as a client.

It’s like they suddenly started paying attention to her today?

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[Kevin M.]

Jon Cryer chimes in (after Charlie Sheen weighs in)...

https://twitter.com/mrjoncryer/status/1001537315502637057?s=21

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[David Bruggeman]

The previously scheduled Roseanne repeat was pulled (on the East Coast at least) for a rerun of The Middle.

Vulture (and I'm sure others) are reporting that reruns of the show on cable and streaming networks are getting pulled a la The Cosby Show.

http://www.vulture.com/2018/05/roseanne-reruns-dropped-by-tv-land-cmt-hulu-and-more-networks.html

David

[Brad Beam]

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>Jon Cryer chimes in (after Charlie Sheen weighs in)...

> 

>https://twitter.com/mrjoncryer/status/1001537315502637057?s=21

 

The latest in the Twitter centrifuge: the Right wants Bill Maher off the air; the liberal consensus appears to be “Meh.”

 

HBO is not a commercial network so the gameplay would be different, but if someone can finally get Lassie to tell us where Maher touched her, perhaps Kevin will be vindicated.

 

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[Kevin M.]

On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 5:56 PM Brad Beam <b.b...@suddenlink.net> wrote:

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>Jon Cryer chimes in (after Charlie Sheen weighs in)...

> 

>https://twitter.com/mrjoncryer/status/1001537315502637057?s=21

 

The latest in the Twitter centrifuge: the Right wants Bill Maher off the air; the liberal consensus appears to be “Meh.”

 

HBO is not a commercial network so the gameplay would be different, but if someone can finally get Lassie to tell us where Maher touched her, perhaps Kevin will be vindicated.

Neither the right nor the left are served by Maher being on the air. And fans of humor definitely don’t benefit. Those who openly discriminate against Muslims benefit by Maher staying on the air... expect to see Roseanne as a guest on Real Time soon, before her FoxNews series is announced. 

 

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[PGage]

My favorite tweet of the day (the unknown to me davehill77):

“First they came for Roseanne, and I said nothing, because Roseanne sucks. Then they came for Bill Maher, and I said nothing, because Bill Maher also sucks.”

https://twitter.com/davehill77/status/1001571126257115138?s=21

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[Jon Delfin]

This Dave Hill, I'm guessing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Hill_(comedian)

[Brad Beam]

From: tvor...@googlegroups.com [mailto:tvor...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jon Delfin

>This Dave Hill, I'm guessing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Hill_(comedian)

 

Actually, this one – who’s written for Grantland and the UCB.

https://www.davidhillonline.com

[Doug Eastick]

I like cryers tweets mostly.  This one too.

[Kevin M.]

Rita Moreno offers up a bit of class.

https://twitter.com/theritamoreno/status/1001516269995200513?s=21

“@therealroseanne, you break my heart -- You are a sorry excuse for a human being. How odd that you, as a comedienne, have forgotten then meaning of a "joke" and a personal comment. Your meanness is staggering and will earn you a ticket to a sad, lonely and sorry life.”

[Steve Timko]

https://twitter.com/RoryAlbanese/status/1001501861340418049?s=19

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[Steve Timko]

Oddly enough, Jimmy Kimmel had the same idea as Rory Albanese.

https://youtu.be/12m1rG0Tj7U

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[Dave Sikula]

From what I know of Ms. Moreno, she's a piece of work herself. Not racist (AFAIK), but extremely unpleasant.

--Dave Sikula

[Kevin M.]

On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 9:42 PM, 'Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV <tvor...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

From what I know of Ms. Moreno, she's a piece of work herself. Not racist (AFAIK), but extremely unpleasant.

--Dave Sikula

I only met her once, briefly, at an awards show. I did not get an unpleasant vibe from her, but I didn't get to chat with her for very long.

I wonder if she likes "The Great Escape"?

 

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[Dave Sikula]

As bad as it is to lose work like this, I have no sympathy for anyone who chose to work on the reboot. If -I- knew she was an unhinged racist wingnut, the people who actually knew and had worked with her had absolutely no excuse.

--Dave Sikula

[Kevin M.]

Roseanne just posted on the Tweety-thingy... says it was the Ambien talking

https://twitter.com/therealroseanne/status/1001678566298406912?s=21

[PGage]

Agreed. This really was one of the most predictable melt-downs of the Trump Era (perhaps the only thing more predictable is that Trump himself will melt down three times a week). I saw two or three stories today about why ABC was able to move to fast on this - they all implied that they had anticipated something like this might happen and may even have had several components of the response pre-positioned. But what I did not read was what I really suspect must be true - that they had some kind of special insurance policy out on her for just this kind of thing. I wonder if somehow pulling the plug quickly helped Disney/ABC demonstrate that the end of the show was directly caused by Roseanne’s instability, and not other factors (i.e. political). If not that, then at least having a pretty big insurance policy may have made it easier for ABC to pull the plug so easily (though losing the #3 show still has to hurt).

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As bad as it is to lose work like this, I have no sympathy for anyone who chose to work on the reboot. If -I- knew she was an unhinged racist wingnut, the people who actually knew and had worked with her had absolutely no excuse.

--Dave Sikula

[Kevin M.]

I was wrong. Roseanne won’t be on Real Time on Friday. She’ll be on Joe Rogan’s total whackjob podcast (I think that’s its name) on Friday.

https://twitter.com/therealroseanne/status/1001700361151840256?s=21

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[Kevin M.]

P.S.-I had to reblock her on Twitter. Her pity party was making me physically ill. 

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[Steve Timko]

Another for Kevin.

https://twitter.com/MrEmilyHeller/status/1001651469693550592?s=19

[Kevin M.]

The makers of Ambien have chimed in

https://twitter.com/sanofius/status/1001824999496404992?s=21

[PGage]

This is one of the all time great corporate uses of social media in defense of their brand. It also sharpens the point: 

The problem with Roseanne is not her racist, anti-Semitic and Islamaphobic beliefs; she has been clear about these for some time, and if they were the problem she would never have gotten another gig at ABC. The problem is her impaired judgment in sharing these beliefs while starring in a hit network show. She promised she would not do this, but could not keep her promise. I blame her poor mental health, she is trying to blame Ambien.

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[Tom Wolper]

On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 5:08 PM PGage <pga...@gmail.com> wrote:

This is one of the all time great corporate uses of social media in defense of their brand. It also sharpens the point: 

The problem with Roseanne is not her racist, anti-Semitic and Islamaphobic beliefs; she has been clear about these for some time, and if they were the problem she would never have gotten another gig at ABC. The problem is her impaired judgment in sharing these beliefs while starring in a hit network show. She promised she would not do this, but could not keep her promise. I blame her poor mental health, she is trying to blame Ambien.

I hate to think of Tom Arnold as the voice of reason. But he does make some solid points in this Hollywood Reporter article, namely that Roseanne tweeted as an act of self-sabotage and a way of getting out of the show. He said if the show went to a second season she would have found another way to wreck it. Also he says he told ABC that they should have taken her phone or at least dictate tweets to an assistant in order to avoid fatal damage.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/tom-arnold-roseanne-cancellation-she-wanted-it-happen-1115950

[Doug Eastick]

Tom Arnold was on Anderson Cooper Wednesday night.   It was not a short segment.    He really did sound rational and also checked in with his step children.

He said that her son had access to her Twitter account and would moderate it somewhat, or at least had the access to.

He also put a some blame on ABC for restarting the show. Once

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[PGage]

I also saw his interview with Cooper. Arnold knows what most of us know, only more personally; Roseanne is not well, and the people who care about her and encouraged her to do this reboot did not serve her interests. I’m  not sure about the idea of intentional sabotage, but part of her pattern is being self-destructive, and the probability of doing so get stronger the more attention and pressure she has.

[Steve Timko]

Roseanne Barr return possible, but lesser platform likely

By ANDREW DALTON

AP Entertainment Writer

LOS ANGELES (AP) - After her network dropped her show, streaming services dropped her reruns, and her agency dropped her for a racist tweet, Roseanne Barr is vowing she's not finished. Whether anyone will have her is an open question.

Experts say network TV, where she saw huge success both on the original "Roseanne" and the recent reboot, is not really a possibility now.

Eric Dezenhall, who runs a crisis-management firm, says if she's willing to make less money there are outlets including streaming services and podcasts where her style of outrageous statements would be encouraged.

Barr has already received one offer: A former aide from the President Donald Trump campaign says he's starting a streaming service called Bond later in June and had considered her as a contributor even before her show's cancellation.

On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 8:03 PM, PGage <pga...@gmail.com> wrote:

I also saw his interview with Cooper. Arnold knows what most of us know, only more personally; Roseanne is not well, and the people who care about her and encouraged her to do this reboot did not serve her interests. I’m  not sure about the idea of intentional sabotage, but part of her pattern is being self-destructive, and the probability of doing so get stronger the more attention and pressure she has.

On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 4:15 PM Doug Eastick <eas...@mcd.on.ca> wrote:

Tom Arnold was on Anderson Cooper Wednesday night.   It was not a short segment.    He really did sound rational and also checked in with his step children.

He said that her son had access to her Twitter account and would moderate it somewhat, or at least had the access to.

He also put a some blame on ABC for restarting the show. Once

On Thu, May 31, 2018, 5:16 PM Tom Wolper, <two...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 5:08 PM PGage <pga...@gmail.com> wrote:

This is one of the all time great corporate uses of social media in defense of their brand. It also sharpens the point: 

The problem with Roseanne is not her racist, anti-Semitic and Islamaphobic beliefs; she has been clear about these for some time, and if they were the problem she would never have gotten another gig at ABC. The problem is her impaired judgment in sharing these beliefs while starring in a hit network show. She promised she would not do this, but could not keep her promise. I blame her poor mental health, she is trying to blame Ambien.

I hate to think of Tom Arnold as the voice of reason. But he does make some solid points in this Hollywood Reporter article, namely that Roseanne tweeted as an act of self-sabotage and a way of getting out of the show. He said if the show went to a second season she would have found another way to wreck it. Also he says he told ABC that they should have taken her phone or at least dictate tweets to an assistant in order to avoid fatal damage.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/tom-arnold-roseanne-cancellation-she-wanted-it-happen-1115950

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On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 11:11 PM Steve Timko <steve...@gmail.com> wrote:

Roseanne Barr return possible, but lesser platform likely

Two things worth mentioning. First, every major and most minor companies now have clauses in all contracts regarding hate speech and social media, beyond a standard morals clause. In Trump’s America I don’t rule anything out, but anybody who hires her has to know that — at least for the foreseeable future — she is toxic, and anybody she interacts with while employed by a company would be able to add that company to any lawsuits related to her outbursts, past, present, or future. Second, in Hollywood, there are times when one might take a small pay cut (i.e. for an Indie film or a “labor of love” project), but for Roseanne to go the route of lesser media (i.e. The Blaze or Brietbart or whatever Bond turns out to be), she would effectively be slashing her price forever. I realize she currently has nobody representing her, but no agent in his or her right mind would advise her to do that. Again, not saying that won’t happen, but you can count those who emerged from the “new media” rabbit hole on one hand. 

Roseanne is currently content to piss into the Twitter wind. Seen it before (Charlie Sheen)... all the ego stroking, and no actual responsibilities. She gets the attention she craves, and the rest of us can block her. That seems a fitting end to her career. 

By ANDREW DALTON

AP Entertainment Writer

LOS ANGELES (AP) - After her network dropped her show, streaming services dropped her reruns, and her agency dropped her for a racist tweet, Roseanne Barr is vowing she's not finished. Whether anyone will have her is an open question.

Experts say network TV, where she saw huge success both on the original "Roseanne" and the recent reboot, is not really a possibility now.

Eric Dezenhall, who runs a crisis-management firm, says if she's willing to make less money there are outlets including streaming services and podcasts where her style of outrageous statements would be encouraged.

Barr has already received one offer: A former aide from the President Donald Trump campaign says he's starting a streaming service called Bond later in June and had considered her as a contributor even before her show's cancellation.

On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 8:03 PM, PGage <pga...@gmail.com> wrote:

I also saw his interview with Cooper. Arnold knows what most of us know, only more personally; Roseanne is not well, and the people who care about her and encouraged her to do this reboot did not serve her interests. I’m  not sure about the idea of intentional sabotage, but part of her pattern is being self-destructive, and the probability of doing so get stronger the more attention and pressure she has.

On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 4:15 PM Doug Eastick <eas...@mcd.on.ca> wrote:

Tom Arnold was on Anderson Cooper Wednesday night.   It was not a short segment.    He really did sound rational and also checked in with his step children.

He said that her son had access to her Twitter account and would moderate it somewhat, or at least had the access to.

He also put a some blame on ABC for restarting the show. Once

On Thu, May 31, 2018, 5:16 PM Tom Wolper, <two...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 5:08 PM PGage <pga...@gmail.com> wrote:

This is one of the all time great corporate uses of social media in defense of their brand. It also sharpens the point: 

The problem with Roseanne is not her racist, anti-Semitic and Islamaphobic beliefs; she has been clear about these for some time, and if they were the problem she would never have gotten another gig at ABC. The problem is her impaired judgment in sharing these beliefs while starring in a hit network show. She promised she would not do this, but could not keep her promise. I blame her poor mental health, she is trying to blame Ambien.

I hate to think of Tom Arnold as the voice of reason. But he does make some solid points in this Hollywood Reporter article, namely that Roseanne tweeted as an act of self-sabotage and a way of getting out of the show. He said if the show went to a second season she would have found another way to wreck it. Also he says he told ABC that they should have taken her phone or at least dictate tweets to an assistant in order to avoid fatal damage.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/tom-arnold-roseanne-cancellation-she-wanted-it-happen-1115950

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[Kevin M.]

For those still following the Deconstruction of Falling Barrs, Joe Rogan announced she would not be appearing on his podcast as scheduled/announced, basically because she stopped talking to him.

"The Roseanne podcast is not happening today. She’s not doing well and doesn’t want to travel, and she’s gone radio silent on me, so I’m just going to step away. The whole thing has been pretty brutal on her, and I hope she can find some peace."

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[Bob Jersey]

Steve Timko, Friday (6/1), to Tom Wolper, PGage and Doug Eastick, in part:

Roseanne Barr return possible, but lesser platform likely

By ANDREW DALTON

AP Entertainment Writer

LOS ANGELES (AP) - After her network dropped her show, streaming services dropped her reruns, and her agency dropped her for a racist tweet, Roseanne Barr is vowing she's not finished. Whether anyone will have her is an open question.

FilmRise, who licensed longterm rights to the first nine years of the show, despite joining the millions condemning the tweets, plans to continue making them available through existing and, it says, new streaming venues... Variety (link)

B (slowed by health issues)

[Brad Beam]

From: tvor...@googlegroups.com [mailto:tvor...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Timko

>Roseanne Barr return possible, but lesser platform likely

 

ABC (Tu 8p)

Time-slot vacuum plugged;

Now, Sandy Duncan stars in

"The Conner Fam'ly"

[PGage]

I always like this joke because you have to be of a certain age to get it.

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On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 1:19 PM Brad Beam <b.b...@suddenlink.net> wrote:

From: tvor...@googlegroups.com [mailto:tvor...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Timko

>Roseanne Barr return possible, but lesser platform likely

 

ABC (Tu 8p)

Time-slot vacuum plugged;

Now, Sandy Duncan stars in

"The Conner Fam'ly"

Is Edie McClurg still alive to play the wacky neighbor? 

 

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[Brad Beam]

Surprisingly, she's only 67. (Fun fact: she voiced John Ehrlichman in a contemporary NPR production of the Watergate transcripts.)

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[Steve Timko]

Roseanne's latest explanation is that the "Planet of the Apes" reference was not to Valerie Jarrett being black but to anti-Semitism since that was Rod Serling's message when he wrote the "Planet of the Apes."

LINK

That might be plausible if she hadn't just tweeted a bunch of other bizarre conspiracy tweets.

On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 6:03 PM, Brad Beam <b.b...@suddenlink.net> wrote:

Surprisingly, she's only 67. (Fun fact: she voiced John Ehrlichman in a contemporary NPR production of the Watergate transcripts.)

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On Jun 3, 2018, at 18:26, Kevin M. <drunkba...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 1:19 PM Brad Beam <b.b...@suddenlink.net> wrote:

From: tvor...@googlegroups.com [mailto:tvornottv@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Timko

>Roseanne Barr return possible, but lesser platform likely

 

ABC (Tu 8p)

Time-slot vacuum plugged;

Now, Sandy Duncan stars in

"The Conner Fam'ly"

Is Edie McClurg still alive to play the wacky neighbor? 

 

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[Kevin M.]

Oh, I see she’s forgiven everybody. That’s damn civil of her, ain’t it?

On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 5:03 PM Steve Timko <steve...@gmail.com> wrote:

Roseanne's latest explanation is that the "Planet of the Apes" reference was not to Valerie Jarrett being black but to anti-Semitism since that was Rod Serling's message when he wrote the "Planet of the Apes."

LINK

That might be plausible if she hadn't just tweeted a bunch of other bizarre conspiracy tweets.

On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 6:03 PM, Brad Beam <b.b...@suddenlink.net> wrote:

Surprisingly, she's only 67. (Fun fact: she voiced John Ehrlichman in a contemporary NPR production of the Watergate transcripts.)

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 3, 2018, at 18:26, Kevin M. <drunkba...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 1:19 PM Brad Beam <b.b...@suddenlink.net> wrote:

From: tvor...@googlegroups.com [mailto:tvor...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Timko

>Roseanne Barr return possible, but lesser platform likely

 

ABC (Tu 8p)

Time-slot vacuum plugged;

Now, Sandy Duncan stars in

"The Conner Fam'ly"

Is Edie McClurg still alive to play the wacky neighbor? 

 

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[PGage]

Bullshit.

I won’t bother excavating all the layers of bullshit - the stink speaks for itself. I will just point out that when you thank Hannity for his support right after a lame and transparent denial of racism, the bullshit content is trebled.

On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 5:03 PM Steve Timko <steve...@gmail.com> wrote:

Roseanne's latest explanation is that the "Planet of the Apes" reference was not to Valerie Jarrett being black but to anti-Semitism since that was Rod Serling's message when he wrote the "Planet of the Apes."

LINK

That might be plausible if she hadn't just tweeted a bunch of other bizarre conspiracy tweets.

On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 6:03 PM, Brad Beam <b.b...@suddenlink.net> wrote:

Surprisingly, she's only 67. (Fun fact: she voiced John Ehrlichman in a contemporary NPR production of the Watergate transcripts.)

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 3, 2018, at 18:26, Kevin M. <drunkba...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 1:19 PM Brad Beam <b.b...@suddenlink.net> wrote:

From: tvor...@googlegroups.com [mailto:tvor...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Timko

>Roseanne Barr return possible, but lesser platform likely

 

ABC (Tu 8p)

Time-slot vacuum plugged;

Now, Sandy Duncan stars in

"The Conner Fam'ly"

Is Edie McClurg still alive to play the wacky neighbor? 

 

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|_>|_>  Brad Beam- Belle WV

|_>|_>  http://www.facebook.com/74bmw

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[Steve Timko]

Roseanne says she thought Valeria Jarrett was white. Screams it. Then how does she explain the "Planet of the Apes" reference? Does she expect us to buy that Rod Serling crap?

LINK

[Tom Wolper]

On Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 12:39 AM Steve Timko <steve...@gmail.com> wrote:

Roseanne says she thought Valeria Jarrett was white. Screams it. Then how does she explain the "Planet of the Apes" reference? Does she expect us to buy that Rod Serling crap?

LINK

I can't speak to her frame of mind or the bubble she is in, but she may not have seen her tweet would lead to career suicide. This is a desperation move - she's hoping that she can prove that her intent was not racist and she made a mistake. I think it her frame of mind or bubble which makes her think it could restore her good name.

[Kevin M.]

Roseanne now claiming she was fired from ABC because she supported Israel. In an era when Tweets and audio/video recordings are public record, it will never cease to amaze me when people try to rewrite history. And it will never cease to depress me when they succeed. 

https://www.apnews.com/ca35657ae63341d3ab0e4e2c30c37d73

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[Tom Wolper]

On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 1:42 AM Kevin M. <drunkba...@gmail.com> wrote:

Roseanne now claiming she was fired from ABC because she supported Israel. In an era when Tweets and audio/video recordings are public record, it will never cease to amaze me when people try to rewrite history. And it will never cease to depress me when they succeed. 

https://www.apnews.com/ca35657ae63341d3ab0e4e2c30c37d73

When she came to wealth and (showbiz) power it's possible she could have gotten away with something like this. So she might not be aware how things have changed.

In Israel Tel Aviv is a relatively lefty city with European sensibilities. Jerusalem is poorer, more conservative, and obviously religious. I don't know where Roseanne made her remarks or how big the crowd was, but I don't see people in Tel Aviv buying it.

[Kevin M.]

Roseanne is the new Alex Jones, apparently.

https://youtu.be/B2k-XW-gYHc

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[Kevin M.]

Roseanne blames her TV daughter for... well... everything 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/style/wp/2019/03/21/feature/inside-roseanne-barrs-explosive-tweet/

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[Dave Sikula]

I started to read that article, and then I thought I really didn't care that much about Barr. Does anyone, really?

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[Tom Wolper]

On Sat, Mar 23, 2019 at 5:20 PM 'Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV <tvor...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

I started to read that article, and then I thought I really didn't care that much about Barr. Does anyone, really?

Roseanne was to ABC what Megyn Kelly was to NBC. Each got paid a ton of money, did what they predictably would do, and got fired by a shocked network.

[Steve Timko]

Roseanne says she is queer. Not clear what she means.

https://pagesix.com/2019/04/22/roseanne-barr-announces-shes-queer-slams-the-word-f-g/

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On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 5:23 PM Steve Timko <steve...@gmail.com> wrote:

Roseanne says she is queer. Not clear what she means.

https://pagesix.com/2019/04/22/roseanne-barr-announces-shes-queer-slams-the-word-f-g/

One ugly aspect of narcissism is the imperative to hold attention to oneself no matter what damage comes to anybody else. I don't have enough faith in the media for them to ignore these statements from her, especially not the celebrity media and super especially not the tabloid celebrity media. If they won't pay attention to the damage we must: she's hurting genuinely marginalized people.

[Steve Timko]

:Roseanne and Andrew Dice Clay are going to tour. Together.

LINK TO VARIETY

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