Coal-industry biggie sues Oliver for defamation

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Bob Jersey

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Jun 22, 2017, 10:34:18 AM6/22/17
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Robert Murray leads America's largest producer of the natural fuel, and is a well-known Trump ally... Oliver sliced-and-diced him and his businesses over a mine collapse the govt blamed on unapproved actions; Murray argued it was from an earthquake, and that he'd sent proof thereof to Oliver, only to get ignored... the 70+ Murray's health also worsened from the expose and viewer social-media attacks that followed...

Daily Beast (link, but a reference was spotted in Rolling Stone while reading the Kelly/Jones piece)

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Tom Wolper

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Jun 22, 2017, 12:33:54 PM6/22/17
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On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 10:34 AM, Bob Jersey <bobj...@ptd.net> wrote:

Robert Murray leads America's largest producer of the natural fuel, and is a well-known Trump ally... Oliver sliced-and-diced him and his businesses over a mine collapse the govt blamed on unapproved actions; Murray argued it was from an earthquake, and that he'd sent proof thereof to Oliver, only to get ignored... the 70+ Murray's health also worsened from the expose and viewer social-media attacks that followed...

Daily Beast (link, but a reference was spotted in Rolling Stone while reading the Kelly/Jones piece)

And Oliver said on the show that Bob Murray would sue him for the piece and his response was "Eat shit, Bob." So he had a green light from HBO Legal.

Mark Jeffries

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Jun 22, 2017, 3:33:38 PM6/22/17
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And despite his delicate condition, 'ol Bob sure likes going on Fox News and Fox Business a lot.

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Brad Beam

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From: tvor...@googlegroups.com [mailto:tvor...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bob Jersey

>Robert Murray leads America's largest producer of the natural fuel, and is a well-known Trump ally... Oliver sliced-and-diced him and his businesses over a mine collapse the govt blamed on unapproved actions; Murray argued it was from an earthquake, and that he'd sent proof thereof to Oliver, only to get ignored... the 70+ Murray's health also worsened from the expose and viewer social-media attacks that followed...

Of note:

Murray Energy is headquartered in St Clairsville OH, but the suit was filed 20 miles down and across the Ohio River in Marshall County WV – all the better for potential blood-red Trump-supporter jurors to stick it to the fer’ner and his big-city lawyers. (Although, there’s other less-populated, rural counties in the north-central part of the state where that strategy could work even better.)

 

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Tom Wolper

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Jun 23, 2017, 12:27:28 AM6/23/17
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On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 10:27 PM, Brad Beam <b.b...@suddenlink.net> wrote:

From: tvor...@googlegroups.com [mailto:tvornottv@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bob Jersey

>Robert Murray leads America's largest producer of the natural fuel, and is a well-known Trump ally... Oliver sliced-and-diced him and his businesses over a mine collapse the govt blamed on unapproved actions; Murray argued it was from an earthquake, and that he'd sent proof thereof to Oliver, only to get ignored... the 70+ Murray's health also worsened from the expose and viewer social-media attacks that followed...

Of note:

Murray Energy is headquartered in St Clairsville OH, but the suit was filed 20 miles down and across the Ohio River in Marshall County WV – all the better for potential blood-red Trump-supporter jurors to stick it to the fer’ner and his big-city lawyers. (Although, there’s other less-populated, rural counties in the north-central part of the state where that strategy could work even better.)


It's not going to make it to trial.

Brad Beam

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Aug 11, 2017, 9:03:18 PM8/11/17
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Early-days update:
Northern (WV) District Judge John Bailey granted rulings in favor of Murray Energy against the New York Times (motion to dismiss denied) and HBO (case remains in Marshall County Circuit Court).



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On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 10:27 PM, Brad Beam <b.b...@suddenlink.net> wrote:

Steve Timko

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Feb 24, 2018, 3:01:49 PM2/24/18
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Judge dismisses coal company suit against HBO's John Oliver

MOUNDSVILLE, W.Va. (AP) - A West Virginia judge has dismissed a lawsuit brought by coal company Murray Energy against HBO host John Oliver.
A segment of Oliver's Sunday show "Last Week Tonight" in June poked fun at Murray Energy CEO Robert Murray, who blames regulatory efforts by the Obama administration for damaging the coal industry. Oliver said the 77-year-old looked like a "geriatric Dr. Evil."
A Circuit Court judge in Marshall County, West Virginia, ruled on Wednesday that Murray's company failed to state a claim. The two-page ruling from Senior Judge Jeffrey Cramer was posted online by The Hollywood Reporter.
The Ohio-based company was seeking financial damages and a court order barring rebroadcasts of the segment's "defamatory statements."
HBO had argued the show didn't violate Murray Energy's rights or those of Murray.


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Steve Timko

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Nov 11, 2019, 6:27:57 AM11/11/19
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Funny follow up. Broadway style.



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PGage

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Nov 11, 2019, 9:24:17 AM11/11/19
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If you are not a Regular viewer of LWT, I strongly suggest finding and watching this one. It would be slightly more enjoyable if you go back first and watch the initial Moore episode, but not really necessary. It is a great example of the multi-layered approach Oliver has perfected in this show: silly comedy, sharp, sophisticated satire, and complex serious investigative journalism. The bonus of this episode is some background on the Moore lawsuits. Oliver has alluded a few times to how difficult the process had been for him, but for a long time was unable to say much in public. Last night, he unloaded. And it was glorious.



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Adam Bowie

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Nov 11, 2019, 9:33:41 AM11/11/19
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"LWT" conjures up something entirely different in UK TV, where it was the weekend franchise for ITV in the London area (Yup - we had two franchisees who shared the week in the London region, one getting Monday - 5.15pm Friday, and the other getting the rest).

Anyway, to me, and many Brits it means this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxj5ZbUwLiM 

Probably meaningless unless you somehow saw episodes of The Professionals or Dempsey and Makepeace from the seventies and eighties, and they left the credits intact.

Getting back on topic, I look forward to catching *the other* LWT on Sky Atlantic this evening when we get it here.

M-D November

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Nov 11, 2019, 1:45:02 PM11/11/19
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Adam - it's not just you. Having done a semester in London when I was in college, I remember (being baffled by) the handovers to LWT (from, I want to say, Carlton) - trying to understand just what the smeg was going on sent me down a research rabbit hole instead of, you know, doing the reading I needed to do for class...

Jim Ellwanger

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Nov 11, 2019, 2:08:09 PM11/11/19
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> On Nov 11, 2019, at 10:45 AM, M-D November <mdnov...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Adam - it's not just you. Having done a semester in London when I was in college, I remember (being baffled by) the handovers to LWT (from, I want to say, Carlton) - trying to understand just what the smeg was going on sent me down a research rabbit hole instead of, you know, doing the reading I needed to do for class...

This kind of thing was not entirely unknown in the U.S., although with radio, not TV -- in the early days, many stations were licensed to share frequencies, although those arrangements gradually disappeared as either new broadcasting frequencies opened up, or the two stations involved found it hard to make a go of things and one ended up buying out the other.

I think the longest-lasting example was WFAA and WBAP in Dallas and Fort Worth, which shared one frequency from the 1920s until 1947, and then shared two frequencies between themselves -- switching off with each other several times a day at first, and later just several times a week -- until 1970, when WBAP finally paid off WFAA so they could be the full-time station on the better signal.

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Bob Jersey

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Nov 11, 2019, 2:35:20 PM11/11/19
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Reposting only 'cuz I deleted it from GG web after what looked (at least on Firefox) like a double-post:

Adam Bowie, to PGage, today (11/11):
"LWT" conjures up something entirely different in UK TV, where it was the weekend franchise for ITV in the London area (Yup - we had two franchisees who shared the week in the London region, one getting Monday - 5.15pm Friday, and the other getting the rest).

Anyway, to me, and many Brits it means this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxj5ZbUwLiM 

Probably meaningless unless you somehow saw episodes of The Professionals or Dempsey and Makepeace from the seventies and eighties, and they left the credits intact.

Getting back on topic, I look forward to catching *the other* LWT on Sky Atlantic this evening when we get it here.


Here's a blast from the past: I can actually recall something from London Weekend Television before either of those shows Adam mentioned... for some strange reason a few Stateside stations (one of which in Philadelphia, which is where I saw it) picked up the two-season "Doctor In The House," inspired by the hit movie series and whose début episode was written by John Cleese and Graham Chapman (Cleese quickly bolted to concentrate on "Python," while Chapman would collab on a few more stories the first year)... it aired July-October 1969 and April-July 1970, back when LWT's weekday counterpart was Thames...

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Adam Bowie

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Nov 11, 2019, 2:58:49 PM11/11/19
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On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 6:45 PM M-D November <mdnov...@gmail.com> wrote:
Adam - it's not just you. Having done a semester in London when I was in college, I remember (being baffled by) the handovers to LWT (from, I want to say, Carlton) - trying to understand just what the smeg was going on sent me down a research rabbit hole instead of, you know, doing the reading I needed to do for class...

Yep - it would have been Carlton who took over the weekday franchise from Thames Television.

Basically, the first commercial channel in the UK - commonly "ITV" - was actually a set of regional franchises that until had a degree of independence. Sure they all did local news, but they mostly each made programmes for the ITV network. In later years this was pretty consistent across the UK, but at times shows varied. Because London was so big and valuable, it was split into two franchises - the weekday and weekend ones. Carlton TV took over Thames following a blind auction. 

In due course there was consolidation and ITV plc (who have grown heavily into buying production companies in recent years, the US included) own nearly the entire network. Just STV in Scotland who have two franchises, stands alone. If you watch STV in Scotland you get almost entirely the same schedule however.

On screen, different regional ITV companies specialised in different stuff. LWT was very entertainment heavy - lots of gameshows and big studio variety and entertainment shows. Their drama tended towards action/adventure. Granada in Manchester made Coronation St - the long running UK soap - but high quality drama like Brideshead Revisted or Sherlock Holmes (the Jeremy Brett ones). Thames made sitcoms, gritty dramas like The Sweeney and a lot of sitcoms. Benny Hill - which I believe got a fair outing in the US (I suspect less so today) - was a Thames show.

As I understand it, the franchise holders had regular meetings to determine who got to get what onto the network. Bigger companies got more, and the smaller regions - say the smallest Border TV - would only get a single gameshow (Mr & Mrs!) and a poor slot for it. But even a small franchise like Anglia TV (logo - a rotating statue of a silver knight) might specialise in something. In Anglia's case, they made Survival, ITV's flagship natural history series.

As a viewer, you kind of knew what you were going to get based on the animated logo each channel's shows would begin and end with. A bit like seeing an HBO or Netflix intro now I guess.


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Doug Eastick

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Nov 11, 2019, 10:47:38 PM11/11/19
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Wow. I just watched the episode from this week. The show was tight and spot on in every 30 second stretch. One of the best I've seen on his show.

The last five minutes was just the icing on the whole cake.



Brad Beam

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Nov 12, 2019, 7:30:50 PM11/12/19
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From: tvor...@googlegroups.com [mailto:tvor...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Doug Eastick

>Wow. I just watched the episode from this week. The show was tight and spot on in every 30 second stretch. One of the best I've seen on his show.

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>The last five minutes was just the icing on the whole cake.

 

While the episode was the focus of today’s lead opinion* in the hometown Charleston Gazette-Mail, the statehouse reporter tweeted it best:

When John Oliver wins the Emmy for Outstanding Variety Talk Series for Sunday's episode, I hope he gives a shout out to West Virginia for making it possible.

https://twitter.com/PhilKabler/status/1194258871407112192

 

Despite pro-business types having called WV a “judicial hellhole” for years, the Republican-majority Legislature probably won’t rush toward anti-SLAPP legislation; our governor is a coal baron, and would be the “before” picture in a Trump-themed WeightWatchers ad.

 

*https://www.wvgazettemail.com/opinion/editorial/gazette-mail-editorial-there-s-a-lesson-in-john-oliver/article_ff786a5a-eda9-56a2-994b-97faa27b802b.html

Mark Jeffries

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Feb 15, 2020, 4:54:08 PM2/15/20
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"Upstairs Downstairs" on "Masterpiece Theatre" and "Doctor in the House" (my intro to Britcoms), although for the latter the logo was different than what Adam posted.

(And "No Honestly" and "Agony" on our PBS station in Chicago at various times--"Doctor" was on commercial stations in the U.S. syndicated by Westinghouse Broadcasting for the prime access time slot that they convinced the FCC to adopt, back in those first years before everyone discovered that the only low-budget programming that would work in that time slot were nature shows and game shows.)

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Brad Beam

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Oct 25, 2020, 11:06:29 PM10/25/20
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The question now is, will Mr Nutterbutter attend the funeral?

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