Tucker's Gone At FNC

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Joe Hass

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Apr 24, 2023, 11:38:54 AM4/24/23
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Adam Bowie

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Apr 24, 2023, 12:09:24 PM4/24/23
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I am FASCINATED by this move.

On the one hand, coming just a few days after the massive Fox News settlement, and with more settlements probably to come, something had to happen at FNC. On the other hand, other shows seem to have had a bigger impact on that particular case. Unless he's just the first of a whole clean-house approach at Fox...

I guess the real reasons will come out in due course, but while I don't doubt that Murdoch would sacrifice just about anyone, I'm not sure he'd go for Carlson first. So was he negotiating with a rival channel or something? 

Or did he do something that just thoroughly pissed off Rupert Murdoch?



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Steve Timko

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Apr 24, 2023, 12:43:18 PM4/24/23
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Or did he do something that just thoroughly pissed off Rupert Murdoch?

The Washington Post said sources said Carlson's leaked communications criticized FOX News management and that was behind it. He was making them so much money I would imagine they wouldn't fire him if he groped management wives.

He must have ticked off Rupert.

Steve Timko

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Apr 24, 2023, 12:48:50 PM4/24/23
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Don Lemon is gone, too. Were they traded?

Bob Jersey

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Apr 24, 2023, 12:58:35 PM4/24/23
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No clues from this V piece, but apparently Lemon got the bad news from his agent, not, say, HR.
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Steve Timko, April 24th:

Kevin M.

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Apr 24, 2023, 1:03:21 PM4/24/23
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Buzzfeed News folded. Tucker and Lemon both gone (until Sirius signs either or both of them). 

Gives me a glimmer of hope for journalism. 

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Brad Beam

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Apr 24, 2023, 1:20:46 PM4/24/23
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PGage

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Apr 24, 2023, 2:41:33 PM4/24/23
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NYT says CNN brass wanted to talk to him about his status and Lemon instead dumped on Twitter that he had been fired.

Today is the day cable news is settling all family business.

The question about Tucker is, did they dump him for pushing the lies about the election, or emailing the truth that the election was valid? My bet is that he was a liability both for the toxic workplace law suit and other lawsuits related to election lies.




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Doug Eastick

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Apr 24, 2023, 2:43:57 PM4/24/23
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the parallels between real life Fox News and the storyline of Succession the past few weeks is remarkable.   Some tweets by funny randos online are referring to Mattson making changes before he even formally controls the network.



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Adam Bowie

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Apr 24, 2023, 2:59:55 PM4/24/23
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Yeah - another Tweet also pointed out that there was an obvious replacement for Tucker already lined up...

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PGage

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Apr 24, 2023, 3:22:20 PM4/24/23
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That was my favorite…

PGage

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Apr 24, 2023, 11:57:43 PM4/24/23
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For the benefit of the record, multiple publications reported today that both Carlson and Lemon retained the same attorney to get them as much as possible from their former employers, Bryan Freedman, and that this is also the guy representing Cuomo for similar reasons.

Tom Wolper

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Apr 25, 2023, 10:39:06 AM4/25/23
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It’s worth noting that FNC and CNN knew they were going to have to pay big money for a sudden firing rather than a negotiated buyout and they decided to do it anyway.

Adam Bowie

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Apr 25, 2023, 10:47:55 AM4/25/23
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Which at first appearance does make it a bit odd that both feel they need to hire someone to specially negotiate their exit payments. You'd have thought their regular agents would have just waved their respective contracts at FNC and CNN and said, "Pay up." 

But I guess FNC will point to some those redacted and un-redacted messages from Carlson and say that he was disparaging his employer or some such. Meanwhile CNN will say sexist comments meant that the audience lost trust in Lemon etc etc.

I'm sure that in the end they'll both get paid off to shut up and go away...

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Doug Eastick

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Apr 25, 2023, 11:01:08 AM4/25/23
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Let's start the countdown to when each starts a podcast.

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John Edwards

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Apr 25, 2023, 11:25:03 AM4/25/23
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Watch them start a combined podcast. (Crossfire 2: The Crossening)!

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Apr 25, 2023, 12:51:30 PM4/25/23
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Kevin M.

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Apr 25, 2023, 10:32:31 PM4/25/23
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Are there enough lies and conspiracy theories in the day?

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Bob Jersey

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Apr 27, 2023, 9:38:29 AM4/27/23
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On the tweetybox, he marvelled at "how many genuinely nice people there are in this country" and that most of the debates on TV are "incredibly stupid."
Kevin M, April 25th:

Tom Wolper

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Apr 27, 2023, 10:46:11 AM4/27/23
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One thing that comes through from reading about FNC and Carlson is how disposable he was. The Murdochs gave him a ton of money and their best time slot and all he did with it was regurgitate right wing talking points to the faithful. He didn’t recruit new people to the cause or make the talking points more palatable to a general audience. Without him FNC will find another host to take the 8 PM slot and Carlson will go and do whatever Bill O’Reilly does.

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PGage

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Apr 27, 2023, 10:50:06 PM4/27/23
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This was my initial take as well. In some ways Fox News is similar to ESPN in that both get nervous when the talent starts thinking it is more important than the brand.

But…there does seem to be a growing concerted effort by a significant fraction of the hyper Right to punish Fox and move the loyal deeper into the darkness. This has been successful in the short term: FN ratings for the TC slot were 56% lower last night compared to week before.

If I had to bet, I would go with those numbers getting close to even with TC numbers within 3-6 months, but I actually have no real way to predict the behavior of those people.


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