Re: [TV orNotTV] Digest for tvornottv@googlegroups.com - 11 updates in 4 topics

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Aug 4, 2023, 7:24:54 PM8/4/23
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I had to search the webs for someone that was in the room. Jack Smith stared at Trump,
and Trump would not look at Jack Smith [BTW no mug shot, but electronic fingerprints]
Fact checkers later did a good job of indictment reads and probation conditions.

On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 5:22 AM <tvor...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
"Kevin M." <drunkba...@gmail.com>: Aug 03 09:25PM -0700

Just watched the Star Trek musical episode. As a musical, it wasn’t great
but could have been worse. I’d rank it better than the Buffy musical but
not as good as the Scrubs musical.
 
But this was probably the closest we will ever get to a Star
Trek/Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy crossover. They basically stumbled
upon an infinite improbability drive floating around in space. The
references were too blatant to have been coincidental or unintentional.
 
 
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Jim Ellwanger <trai...@ellwanger.tv>: Aug 03 09:42PM -0700

I noticed the same thing, and I should have gone back to see if the stardate had a "42" in it.
 
 
PGage <pga...@gmail.com>: Aug 03 06:10AM -0700

Just wanted to again shout out Oatley’s work, this time in the Women’s WC.
Her call of the Jamaica-Brazil match was just stellar (“And still Jamaica
has not conceded”).
 
I have now watched a lot more soccer, having seen every one of Arsenal’s PL
matches this season, and still feel she is the best. I’m hoping for the WWC
she will be doing the Finals.
 
 
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Tom Wolper <two...@gmail.com>: Aug 03 03:14PM -0400

John Strong and Stu Holden were the top announcing team for the men’s World
Cup. When I looked at the teams for the women’s tournament they weren’t
working together.
 
PGage <pga...@gmail.com>: Aug 03 05:16PM -0700

I followed her on Instagram, and saw that she posted she is working through
the quarter finals then done. That is an improvement over Men’s WC, but
would like to see her do two more games.
 
 
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"Kevin M." <drunkba...@gmail.com>: Aug 03 01:50PM -0700

There is a major news event occurring today, and every televised news
outlet is handling it the same way, which is to say wrongly. Each has their
own hosts and their own pundits speculating and pontificating instead of
reporting. They are operating under the assumption that a live shot outside
the courthouse is newsworthy, even though they aren’t reporting / can’t
report on what’s occurring inside.
 
So instead of reading the indictment aloud and fact-checking the charges
with eye witnesses, video from Jan 6, or doing anything resembling
journalism, they are guessing whether Trump will have his mugshot taken.
 
It’s nothing less than disgraceful. One of the most historic days in
American history, and it’s being covered by teams of morons.
 
All the broadcast outlets (including Fox) interrupted regular scheduled
broadcasts… for what? To show Trump walk down the stairs from his private
jet? And to get that shot, they pointed cameras at a parked plane for how
many minutes? Hours? What is the f-ing point?
 
Where is the substance? Where are the facts? Where is the journalism? Any
jagoff can point a camera at a building, but that’s not news. And these
morons are all going to drive home from work today patting themselves on
the back, genuinely believing they were a beneficial part of history, when
in actuality they were an embarrassment to the nation.
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PGage <pga...@gmail.com>: Aug 03 02:11PM -0700

I don’t want to defend TV News, but I think this is a bit harsh. Images of
a past President arriving at federal court to be arraigned probably are
newsworthy, and this particular defendant is unconventional enough that he
could do or say anything at any point, so probably worth following him.
 
While the history books will likely record 8/3/23 as the relevant date, the
actual breaking news date was 2 days ago, 8/1/23, when the Indictment was
announced. On that day the TV News I watched did do much of what you
suggest; they read large sections of the indictment (I strongly recommend
that every American read it for themselves, it is quite digestible by
laypeople), and had experts explain and analyze it. I am not sure about
your suggestion that they interview witnesses to fact check the indictment
- for the most part the criminal behavior alleged here occurred in public
and we are all witnesses. What they did effectively I think is draw the
lines between the well known behavior and why what may have appeared at the
time to just be whacky, desperate behavior by Trump extremists was actually
a criminal conspiracy. There were some crucial allegations that were not of
public behavior, but the witnesses (really, witness) was not making himself
available for fact checking. But again they did a good job explaining why
the only person who could be the prime witness against Trump is Pence.
 
A day like today can really only be something of a circus; absent something
extremely unusual there will be no news made. But I thought the cable and
broadcast tv newscasts I saw Tuesday (namely, MSNBC, CNN and CBS) did a
competent to good job covering an actually breaking and complex story.
 
 
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"Kevin M." <drunkba...@gmail.com>: Aug 03 03:06PM -0700

If today can only be a circus, don’t televise the circus. Put on a rerun of
the day you say the networks did read the indictment aloud. If they got
Tuesday right, it doesn’t excuse them getting Thursday wrong.
 
 
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Jon Delfin <jond...@gmail.com>: Aug 03 07:46PM -0400

and the other shoe to drop:
is there really no other news to report? things that have actually
happened, or are happening?
 
the good news is, if you watch one hour of coverage this evening, you don't
have to watch cable news again until Monday evening at the earliest
 
"Kevin M." <drunkba...@gmail.com>: Aug 03 04:49PM -0700

Two people pleaded guilty to billions of dollars in cryptocurrency fraud…
in the same courthouse. The morons couldn’t be bothered.
 
 
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Doug Eastick <eas...@eastick.ca>: Aug 03 12:42PM -0700

6 nights in Toronto was just announced. The country is now on pause,
while people register at ticketmaster.ca for the lottery to buy tickets.
 
 
 
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