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[Mark Smith]

With all the interest in Have I Got News US version, the Brit version is again showing up in my YT feed.

I am subscribed, but that doesn't seem to have any effect in what shows up in my feed :-(

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Former NBC Exec Apologizes for Donald Trump

Mark Jeffries <spotl...@gmail.com>: Oct 18 07:48AM -0700 John MIller, marketing chief at NBC for 25 years, apologizes in the current U.S. News for making people think that Trump was a great businessman in promoting "The Apprentice" and helping to make him well-known enough outside of Page Six readers to be where he is now:   https://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2024-10-16/we-created-a-tv-illusion-for-the-apprentice-but-the-real-trump-threatens-america   OK, Mark Burnett--your turn.

Kevin M. <drunkba...@gmail.com>: Oct 18 07:49AM -0700 I tried warning everyone.   Nobody listens to Kevin.   Kevin M. (RPCV)

Melissa P <takingup...@gmail.com>: Oct 18 09:01PM -0400 Although I haven't read *Lucky Loser*, I understand that it covers Trump's lucrative arrangement with Burnett, which wasn't covered in *Apprentice in Wonderland*, which I did read. Trump made more money from *Celebrity Apprentice* than anything else he's done in his life. Unlike the *New York Times* investigative reporters, Setoodeh didn't have access to the financial records. He portrayed Burnett as an odd character with an implication or two about his sexuality.   On Fri, Oct 18, 2024 at 10:48 AM Mark Jeffries <spotl...@gmail.com> wrote:

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Adam Bowie <ad...@adambowie.co.uk>: Oct 18 03:57PM +0100 A few episodes in and I think the CNN version of HIGNFY is really finding its feet. Everyone is getting a lot more comfortable in their roles and it all feels a lot more natural. I think Amber Ruffin and Michael Ian Black are both working well and the guests have been largely decent.   For what it's worth, we're getting the CNN version on the BBC - airing late evenings on Tuesdays after Newsnight. A couple of weeks ago I noticed the same exploding sewer clip air on both US and UK shows in the same week which is the first obvious case of sharing I've spotted. And interestingly, Roy Wood Jr is flying in to guest host the UK version on 8 November (meaning it'll record on 7 November if they stick to their normal schedule).     Adam

Dave Sikula <daves...@gmail.com>: Oct 18 08:58PM I agree it's gotten much better. Ruffin's "excited" act can wear thin, but if the guests are good and sharp (unlike, say, Ana Navarro, who was a trainwreck), the show works. I just wish they'd add a few games. Regardless, it's miles ahead of the commercials-marathon known as "After Midnight." --Dave Sikula   On Friday, October 18, 2024 at 07:57:53 AM PDT, Adam Bowie <ad...@adambowie.co.uk> wrote: A few episodes in and I think the CNN version of HIGNFY is really finding its feet. Everyone is getting a lot more comfortable in their roles and it all feels a lot more natural. I think Amber Ruffin and Michael Ian Black are both working well and the guests have been largely decent.  For what it's worth, we're getting the CNN version on the BBC - airing late evenings on Tuesdays after Newsnight. A couple of weeks ago I noticed the same exploding sewer clip air on both US and UK shows in the same week which is the first obvious case of sharing I've spotted. And interestingly, Roy Wood Jr is flying in to guest host the UK version on 8 November (meaning it'll record on 7 November if they stick to their normal schedule).   Adam On Mon, Sep 16, 2024 at 7:17 PM PGage <pga...@gmail.com> wrote:   I kind of got that, but on CNN there really was no mention of points in the set up, and Hist Woods did not even make the cursory “Points!” Exclamation for responses he found funny (maybe he did it once or twice near the end). The Libertarian guy made the most references to it, which implied that there must have been some points set up and explanation near the start of the show that got cut. If they want to keep the points conceit, but still have flexibility to cut bits that don’t work (and please, keep doing this) then seems it would not be too hard to just have Woods say “Points” whenever he wants, put up a score board on the screen created in post production to roughly track the parts kept in the show, and announce some kind of winner at end.   Sent from Gmail Mobile   On Mon, 16 Sep 2024 at 6:42 AM Adam Bowie <ad...@adambowie.co.uk> wrote:   Re the points. In the UK version, they don't matter as mentioned, and you can only glimpse the scorebox in a handful of very wide shots. The reason is basically because rounds get dropped because they're not funny enough. Then there's an ongoing running gag in the UK that Paul Merton [nearly] always wins, and Ian Hislop loses. But the points only really "exist" as a concept because there are two teams. If there are teams, then there must be a score. QED. On Mon, Sep 16, 2024 at 2:17 PM PGage <pga...@gmail.com> wrote:       I was surprised by how much I liked the first show - so much better than “After Midnight.” It seemed like the point of the show is for the civilian is to be kind of a straight man, and I thought he was fine, though maybe he or Wood should have somehow brought in a little bit of who he was in real life. Wood was funny, but I agree the energy level was a bit off; it’s almost like they watched the first eek of After Midnight and decided whatever they did they wanted to avoid that desperate manic vibe. I know the points don’t matter but they hardly existed at all,  o scoreboard or explanation, so it sounded like a non sequitur when they were mentioned a few times late in the show.    Sent from Gmail Mobile   On Sun, 15 Sep 2024 at 11:55 PM 'Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV <tvor...@googlegroups.com> wrote:   Anyone else watch it? I have no familiarity with the British version, so I can't compare it. For the most part, it wasn't very good. While I like Roy Wood Jr. a lot, and run hot and cold on Amber Ruffin and Robin Thede, it was one of the first times I've liked Ian Michael Black. The two biggest problems I found were 1) the Libertarian panelist. It wasn't his politics (which mostly went unexpressed); it was that he was basically a smart author forced to compete with four professional comedians, and there aren't a lot of civilians who are equipped for that. He was game, but out of his depth. (For example, in the closing "What Will Be News Next Week?" bit, the other three gave humorous answers while his was sober and serious.)   The other, bigger, problem was that it felt like -- despite a live audience -- there was a lot of dead air; it was a 30--minute show crammed into a 60-minute slot.   To be honest, probably the liveliest and most unexpected thing on the show was the two unbleeped "motherfuckers." Guess CNN didn't go with a seven-second delay.   Hopefully, they'll solve some of the problems as they go along, but right now, there's not a lot there. --Dave Sikula     -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TVorNotTV" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/a5cbcd06-6724-4686-be49-0af9a0fe4014n%40googlegroups.com.       -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TVorNotTV" group. 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