Re: [TV orNotTV] Digest for tvornottv@googlegroups.com - 17 updates in 6 topics

[Mark Smith]

Re: DRM on ATSC 3 blocking channels!

Call your congress critters and the FCC. Broadcasters are using DRM to restrict access to PUBLIC broadcasts.

At minimum, if this is not fixed ATSC 3 will go down in flames! Which is a pity because the bedrock technology is

good. Are there any early adopters that are having this problem?

Frustrated in Baltimore

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• Fox's Mid-Season - 7 Updates
• Tay-Tay = yooge ratings, even in the NFL - 1 Update
• You Knew It Was Coming... - 1 Update
• 'Top Gear' Put on Hiatus by BBC - 6 Updates
• Eagles-Chiefs gets best ratings in 27 years - 1 Update
• NFL flexing next weekend - 1 Update

Fox's Mid-Season

Mark Jeffries <spotl...@gmail.com>: Nov 22 09:20AM -0800 It always says something when there's only one night of all-live action scripted programming on the schedule and it won't be until March.   Meanwhile, according to Too Much TV, Fox's post-strikes schedule begins similar to the current schedule on Tues. Jan. 2 with the new game show from "Voice" creator John DeMol "The Floor," hosted by Rob Lowe and shot in Ireland, following "Name That Tune." The next night, it's a new season of "I Can See Your Voice" followed by "We Are Family," a new guess-the-singing-celebrity-relative show hosted by Anthony Anderson and with his mother Doris Bowman, who helped to ruin the ABC reboot of "To Tell the Truth."   On Sun. Jan. 7 coming out of the NFL at 8 p.m. (but against SNF and the Golden Globes) will be the premiere of the Jon Hamm cartoon "Grimsberg" (already renewed for a second season, produced in-house with animation by Fox-owned Bento Box) and a new season of "The Great North" at 9:30 after "Krapopolis" and "Bob's Burgers." However, the second episodes will not air until after the Super Bowl, with "Great North" at 9 and "Grimsberg" at 9:30.   On Mon. Jan. 22, the "TMZ Investigates" docuseries (TMZ now owned by Fox) that's been airing off and on in prime time gets a weekly slot, followed by the "America's Most Wanted" reboot. On Thursdays starting Feb. 1, "Gordon Ramsay's Next Level Chef" (shot in Ireland this year) will air followed by the bucolic dating show "Farmer Wants a Wife" ("Chef"'s premiere will come out of the NFC championship on Sun. Jan. 28).   And finally, on Tues. Mar. 5 comes that one night of live-action scripted with the season premieres of "Cleaning Lady" and "Alert," followed the next night by the season premiere of "Masked Singer" (with Rita Ora filling in on the panel for Nicole Scherzinger while she's playing Nora Desmond in the "Sunset Boulevard" revival on the West End), followed by a new season of "Animal Control" (a show that must have enough Canadian content to air on the CBC in prime time, on a network that the Canadian government generally does not allow to air U.S. shows in prime time) and the biggest surprise--the moving of "Family Guy" out of the Sunday Animation Domination block, which may be an indication that the contract with Disney is about to run out, Fox is not renewing it and the show is either going to end or move to ABC or Hulu.

Tom Wolper <two...@gmail.com>: Nov 22 01:48PM -0500 I was a bit thrown by no mention of The Simpsons so I went to the Fox press release to see what was going on. The new season will premiere on February 18.   https://www.foxflash.com/releases/view/fox-announces-premiere-dates-for-new-and-returning-series-to-launch-winter-2024     On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 12:20 PM Mark Jeffries <spotl...@gmail.com> wrote:

Jim Ellwanger <trai...@ellwanger.tv>: Nov 22 02:54PM -0800 “The Simpsons” has already been airing new episodes this season, so that's not really a season premiere, more like “a return after 'Grimsburg' has been in its regular time slot for a while.”   Sent from my iPhone   On Nov 22, 2023, at 10:49 AM, Tom Wolper <two...@gmail.com> wrote:      I was a bit thrown by no mention of The Simpsons so I went to the Fox press release to see what was going on. The new season will premiere on February 18.   https://www.foxflash.com/releases/view/fox-announces-premiere-dates-for-new-and-returning-series-to-launch-winter-2024   On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 12:20 PM Mark Jeffries <spotl...@gmail.com> wrote:   It always says something when there's only one night of all-live action scripted programming on the schedule and it won't be until March.   Meanwhile, according to Too Much TV, Fox's post-strikes schedule begins similar to the current schedule on Tues. Jan. 2 with the new game show from "Voice" creator John DeMol "The Floor," hosted by Rob Lowe and shot in Ireland, following "Name That Tune." The next night, it's a new season of "I Can See Your Voice" followed by "We Are Family," a new guess-the-singing-celebrity-relative show hosted by Anthony Anderson and with his mother Doris Bowman, who helped to ruin the ABC reboot of "To Tell the Truth."   On Sun. Jan. 7 coming out of the NFL at 8 pm (but against SNF and the Golden Globes) will be the premiere of the Jon Hamm cartoon "Grimsberg" (already renewed for a second season, produced in-house with animation by Fox-owned Bento Box) and a new season of "The Great North" at 9:30 after "Krapopolis" and "Bob's Burgers." However, the second episodes will not air until after the Super Bowl, with "Great North" at 9 and "Grimsberg" at 9:30.   On Mon. Jan. 22, the "TMZ Investigates" docuseries (TMZ now owned by Fox) that's been airing off and on in prime time gets a weekly slot, followed by the "America's Most Wanted" reboot. On Thursdays starting Feb. 1, "Gordon Ramsay's Next Level Chef" (shot in Ireland this year) will air followed by the bucolic dating show "Farmer Wants a Wife" ("Chef"'s premiere will come out of the NFC championship on Sun. Jan. 28).   And finally, on Tues. Mar. 5 comes that one night of live-action scripted with the season premieres of "Cleaning Lady" and "Alert," followed the next night by the season premiere of "Masked Singer" (with Rita Ora filling in on the panel for Nicole Scherzinger while she's playing Nora Desmond in the "Sunset Boulevard" revival on the West End), followed by a new season of "Animal Control" (a show that must have enough Canadian content to air on the CBC in prime time, on a network that the Canadian government generally does not allow to air US shows in prime time) and the biggest surprise--the moving of "Family Guy" out of the Sunday Animation Domination block, which may be an indication that the contract with Disney is about to run out, Fox is not renewing it and the show is either going to end or move to ABC or Hulu.   --   You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TVorNotTV" group.   To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+...@googlegroups.com.   To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/aeb5cbe2-aea6-4a10-a2ec-134446ce6d10n%40googlegroups.com.   --   You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TVorNotTV" group.   To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+...@googlegroups.com.   To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAJE-FiEsh8wPU%3DcQUnEF2Rqu3VEtAx98Hvz%2BYNj9yXzHP3SbWw%40mail.gmail.com.

"Kevin M." <drunkba...@gmail.com>: Nov 22 04:08PM -0800 Is anyone in this group still watching new episodes of The Simpsons? I’ve always liked the show, but I feel like I’ve watched enough of it. On rare occasions, I’ll dig back into the “classic” episodes from the first decade or so, but I don’t think I’m missing much if I choose to not watch let alone not rewatch anything from the last 15 or so years. I think the only new episode I’ve seen in the last decade was the Futurama crossover.

David Bruggeman <bru...@yahoo.com>: Nov 23 12:48AM I do catch up on episodes every few months (I'll probably watch the current season so far over the holiday weekend), but it's not the kind of appointment television it would have been for me up until a decade or so ago. I'm making no guarantees of quality, but I think episodes like Treehouse of Horror that break from the typical format stand a better chance of not feeling like the old familiar. Best,David   On Wednesday, November 22, 2023 at 04:08:36 PM PST, Kevin M. <drunkba...@gmail.com> wrote: Is anyone in this group still watching new episodes of The Simpsons? I’ve always liked the show, but I feel like I’ve watched enough of it. On rare occasions, I’ll dig back into the “classic” episodes from the first decade or so, but I don’t think I’m missing much if I choose to not watch let alone not rewatch anything from the last 15 or so years. I think the only new episode I’ve seen in the last decade was the Futurama crossover.  On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 2:54 PM Jim Ellwanger <trai...@ellwanger.tv> wrote:   “The Simpsons” has already been airing new episodes this season, so that’s not really a season premiere, more like “a return after ‘Grimsburg’ has been in its regular time slot for a while.”   Sent from my iPhone   On Nov 22, 2023, at 10:49 AM, Tom Wolper <two...@gmail.com> wrote:          I was a bit thrown by no mention of The Simpsons so I went to the Fox press release to see what was going on. The new season will premiere on February 18. https://www.foxflash.com/releases/view/fox-announces-premiere-dates-for-new-and-returning-series-to-launch-winter-2024   On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 12:20 PM Mark Jeffries <spotl...@gmail.com> wrote:   It always says something when there's only one night of all-live action scripted programming on the schedule and it won't be until March. Meanwhile, according to Too Much TV, Fox's post-strikes schedule begins similar to the current schedule on Tues. Jan. 2 with the new game show from "Voice" creator John DeMol "The Floor," hosted by Rob Lowe and shot in Ireland, following "Name That Tune." The next night, it's a new season of "I Can See Your Voice" followed by "We Are Family," a new guess-the-singing-celebrity-relative show hosted by Anthony Anderson and with his mother Doris Bowman, who helped to ruin the ABC reboot of "To Tell the Truth."   On Sun. Jan. 7 coming out of the NFL at 8 p.m. (but against SNF and the Golden Globes) will be the premiere of the Jon Hamm cartoon "Grimsberg" (already renewed for a second season, produced in-house with animation by Fox-owned Bento Box) and a new season of "The Great North" at 9:30 after "Krapopolis" and "Bob's Burgers." However, the second episodes will not air until after the Super Bowl, with "Great North" at 9 and "Grimsberg" at 9:30. On Mon. Jan. 22, the "TMZ Investigates" docuseries (TMZ now owned by Fox) that's been airing off and on in prime time gets a weekly slot, followed by the "America's Most Wanted" reboot. On Thursdays starting Feb. 1, "Gordon Ramsay's Next Level Chef" (shot in Ireland this year) will air followed by the bucolic dating show "Farmer Wants a Wife" ("Chef"'s premiere will come out of the NFC championship on Sun. Jan. 28). And finally,  on Tues. Mar. 5 comes that one night of live-action scripted with the season premieres of "Cleaning Lady" and "Alert," followed the next night by the season premiere of "Masked Singer" (with Rita Ora filling in on the panel for Nicole Scherzinger while she's playing Nora Desmond in the "Sunset Boulevard" revival on the West End), followed by a new season of "Animal Control" (a show that must have enough Canadian content to air on the CBC in prime time, on a network that the Canadian government generally does not allow to air U.S. shows in prime time) and the biggest surprise--the moving of "Family Guy" out of the Sunday Animation Domination block, which may be an indication that the contract with Disney is about to run out, Fox is not renewing it and the show is either going to end or move to ABC or Hulu.

Doug Eastick <eas...@eastick.ca>: Nov 22 09:54PM -0500 I have not watched a current season episode in a least a decade.       /Doug eas...@mcd.on.ca

Ben Scripps <b...@benscripps.com>: Nov 22 10:16PM -0500 Once or twice a season, I'll drop in for an episode. I typically go in with the same expectations I have with SNL: tired, unoriginal, past its prime, treading water. Unlike SNL, I usually come out thinking it was better than I expected, but still nothing I need to have back in my life on a weekly basis.

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Tay-Tay = yooge ratings, even in the NFL

Bob Jersey <bobj...@ptd.net>: Nov 22 06:44PM -0800 Commissioner Goodell (for better or worse) weighs in on the couple's influence on the league, among other topics, with "CBS Mornings"... https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/nfl-commissioner-taylor-swift-travis-kelce-romance-1235675409/ (link), or, to go straight to the 'toob, https://youtu.be/yUmNSbirx1I (link) B   Moi, to Jim Ellwanger, in part, Oct 5th:   The league is fighting back against snotty fans worried that their social media hornblowing is taking their attention away from, say, actual football stuff... https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/nfl-defends-social-media-spotlight-taylor-swift-travis-kelce-backlash-1235609086/ (link)

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You Knew It Was Coming...

Bob Jersey <bobj...@ptd.net>: Nov 22 06:35PM -0800 The THR interview with ...*The Challenge*'s execs addresses things like the freezing conditions, why one game was omitted, and the whole process of boiling down footage of hundreds of contestants into hour-long-or-less episodes... https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/squid-game-challenge-interview-1235647920/ (link) B   Moi, to Mark Jeffries, Oct 23rd:   It's done, it's scheduled to drop in a month, and... have a trailer! https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/netflix-squid-game-the-challenge-reality-show-trailer-1235624402/ (link) or directly: https://youtu.be/O61C8zc8Znk (link)

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'Top Gear' Put on Hiatus by BBC

Mark Jeffries <spotl...@gmail.com>: Nov 22 09:51AM -0800 The long-running (over 45 years!) automobile show has been taken out of production by the Beeb following an October 22 high-speed crash involving host Freddie Flintoff, of which BBC Studios, the for-profit division that actually produces the show and most other in-house productions, had to pay out an over $11M settlement--the call was made based on an investigation of the show's health and safety practices following the crash (which the Beeb would not reveal):   https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/bbc-axes-top-gear-freddie-flintoff-accident-1235667906/   The overseas licensed versions of "Top Gear" continue (which at this time does not include the U.S.).

"Kevin M." <drunkba...@gmail.com>: Nov 22 10:17AM -0800 Wait wait wait… are you saying it is unsafe for amateurs to drive cars really fast?

John Edwards <jedwa...@gmail.com>: Nov 22 01:38PM -0500 The story acting as if “Freddie” is his real name is hilarious to me. (It’s Andrew)   He’s made a few public appearances this summer, as he was getting back into coaching cricket, and it looks like he still has some way to go to recover.   On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 12:51 PM Mark Jeffries <spotl...@gmail.com> wrote:

M-D November <mdnov...@gmail.com>: Nov 22 12:29PM -0800 I'll be honest, I didn't even realize the flagship show was still running. I know it continued after the Clarkson/Hammond/May exodus, but I quickly lost interest in it.   On Wednesday, November 22, 2023 at 1:39:08 PM UTC-5 John Edwards wrote:

"Kevin M." <drunkba...@gmail.com>: Nov 22 12:33PM -0800 I thought the late Sabine Schmitz was a great presenter on the series, but nobody else was able to conjure a fraction of the chemistry of the big trio, no matter how hard they tried. And they tried hard.

David Bruggeman <bru...@yahoo.com>: Nov 22 08:42PM I think it didn't help with the audience when the show left BBC America for the Road & Track channel. David   On Wednesday, November 22, 2023 at 12:33:57 PM PST, Kevin M. <drunkba...@gmail.com> wrote: I thought the late Sabine Schmitz was a great presenter on the series, but nobody else was able to conjure a fraction of the chemistry of the big trio, no matter how hard they tried. And they tried hard.  On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 12:29 PM M-D November <mdnov...@gmail.com> wrote:   I'll be honest, I didn't even realize the flagship show was still running. I know it continued after the Clarkson/Hammond/May exodus, but I quickly lost interest in it.   On Wednesday, November 22, 2023 at 1:39:08 PM UTC-5 John Edwards wrote:   The story acting as if “Freddie” is his real name is hilarious to me. (It’s Andrew) He’s made a few public appearances this summer, as he was getting back into coaching cricket, and it looks like he still has some way to go to recover.  On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 12:51 PM Mark Jeffries <spotl...@gmail.com> wrote:   The long-running (over 45 years!) automobile show has been taken out of production  by the Beeb following an October 22 high-speed crash involving host Freddie Flintoff, of which BBC Studios, the for-profit division that actually produces the show and most other in-house productions, had to pay out an over $11M settlement--the call was made based on an investigation of the show's health and safety practices following the crash (which the Beeb would not reveal): https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/bbc-axes-top-gear-freddie-flintoff-accident-1235667906/   The overseas licensed versions of "Top Gear" continue (which at this time does not include the U.S.).

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Eagles-Chiefs gets best ratings in 27 years

Bob Jersey <bobj...@ptd.net>: Nov 22 07:28AM -0800 Over 29 million viewers checked out the MNF matchup across all platforms with it, the most since a 1996 Dallas-Green Bay clash... the mark will likely be topped by the late-afternoon Thanksgiving meeting, Washington at Dallas, THR suggested... https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/eagles-chiefs-monday-night-football-ratings-nov-20-2023-1235671468/ (link) B

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NFL flexing next weekend

Bob Jersey <bobj...@ptd.net>: Nov 22 07:09AM -0800 The deadline for the MNF game (Cincinnati at Jacksonville) being switched, was Monday (20), and it remains where it is... two CBS games, Carolina at Tampa Bay and Denver at Houston, switch time slots, latter to 1, former to 4... https://nflcommunications.com/Pages/Week-13-Flex-Scheduling---Dec.-3-Broncos-Texans-Game-Moves-to-1-p.m.-ET;-Panthers-Buccaneers--to-405-p.m.-ET-on-CBS.aspx (link) B

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