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I don’t think I’ve ever met anyone who would in any way utter a sentence to the effect that they enjoy anything having to do with Joe Rogan.
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If you want an excellent description of Rogan, you'll do worse than this profile by Devin Gordon for The Atlantic.Here's the money quote:"Joe likes Jack (Dorsey). He likes Milo Yiannopoulos. He likes Alex Jones. He wants you to know that he doesn’t agree with much of what they say, but he also wants you to know that off camera they’re the nicest guys. If we all have fatal flaws, this is Joe’s: his insistence on seeing value in people even when he shouldn’t, even when they’ve forfeited any right to it, even when the harm outweighs the good. It comes from a generous place, but it amounts to careless cruelty. He just won’t write people off, and then he compounds the sin by throwing them a lifeline at the moment when they least deserve it."
This is where Rogan goes off the rails for me. I get that, as Steve notes, he frequently has smart people on his program who say smart things. But he also has fundamentally horrible people on his show just often enough that it resets the counter to zero.The name that oddly comes to mind is Pat Buchanan. I affectionately nicknamed him "Sixty-Second Pat" because whenever I'd stumble upon him when I was watching TV news, I could seemingly count on him for roughly 60 seconds of logical, thoughtful-though-conservative conversation. But almost on cue, when the 61st second came around, he'd say something out of right field that reminded me "Oh, yeah: he's an (expletive)." and I'd move on quickly.--On Wed, May 20, 2020, 21:05 Steve Timko <steve...@gmail.com> wrote:--On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 6:39 PM PGage <pga...@gmail.com> wrote:I don’t think I’ve ever met anyone who would in any way utter a sentence to the effect that they enjoy anything having to do with Joe Rogan.Rogan has fought MMA (not as a professional) for more than 20 years in addition to being a commentator. The MMA discussions can be pretty good, especially since he gets top MMA fighters on there. When COVID-19 started spreading, he had an excellent expert who cut through a lot of the BS and gave a detailed description of the situation. That was definitely a non-Trump moment.
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If you want an excellent description of Rogan, you'll do worse than this profile by Devin Gordon for The Atlantic.Here's the money quote:"Joe likes Jack (Dorsey). He likes Milo Yiannopoulos. He likes Alex Jones. He wants you to know that he doesn’t agree with much of what they say, but he also wants you to know that off camera they’re the nicest guys. If we all have fatal flaws, this is Joe’s: his insistence on seeing value in people even when he shouldn’t, even when they’ve forfeited any right to it, even when the harm outweighs the good. It comes from a generous place, but it amounts to careless cruelty. He just won’t write people off, and then he compounds the sin by throwing them a lifeline at the moment when they least deserve it."This is where Rogan goes off the rails for me. I get that, as Steve notes, he frequently has smart people on his program who say smart things. But he also has fundamentally horrible people on his show just often enough that it resets the counter to zero.
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Hart. Damn autocorrect.
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No matter how hard you try, I’m still not going to date Joe Rogan.
I don't get why Spotify is making this deal because they aren't content originators and, unlike Stern and SiriusXM, I don't see how it will sell subscriptions. Still, in a world where NBC signed Megyn Kelly for $65 million with all of her baggage, this may not be such a shocking deal.
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I’m not complaining, as I welcome a full range of views and interests on this list, but just saying: the energy it has taken me to notice and scroll past the last few Joe Rogan posts is more energy than I have spent over the last ten years on anything to do with him, and more than he is worth.
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I’m not complaining, as I welcome a full range of views and interests on this list, but just saying: the energy it has taken me to notice and scroll past the last few Joe Rogan posts is more energy than I have spent over the last ten years on anything to do with him, and more than he is worth.
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Does Spotify have advertisers? Rogan might feel his first pressure, despite Spotify giving him assurances they don't want to change the show.
On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 2:31 PM PGage <pga...@gmail.com> wrote:Oh man, I don’t think Rogan is anywhere near the level of Clay (a character) or Stern (an actual broadcaster). Rogan doesn’t just tell offensive jokes, he enables hateful and dangerous monsters
Does Spotify have advertisers? Rogan might feel his first pressure, despite Spotify giving him assurances they don't want to change the show.
If Trump loses in November MAGA doesn't go into retreat. It forms the backbone of the opposition. The Republican faction that will fade into oblivion is the Republican moderates.
I enjoy many of Joe Rogan's podcasts, which I watch on YouTube. Especially when he and guests talk about MMA.He gives voice to wild conspiracy theories sometimes without challenging them. He supported Bernie Sanders, then announced he would not support Biden and would vote for Trump, leading me to suspect he was supporting Trump the whole time. He considers Alex Jones a friend.However, he just signed a deal to put his podcast on Spotify that's supposed to be worth more than $100 million.Like I said, I usually catch his YouTube videos, and those will be gone by the end of the year. I doubt I will be following him much longer.This is certainly a benchmark in the march from traditional network and cable television networks to the New World Order.
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In none of these scenarios can I see myself being interested in spending more than zero seconds listening to a Joe Rogan.I’m surprised they think the Dem Clean Sweep is most likely. And I think it is extremely unlikely the Dems take the Senate and lose the WH.I expect any outcome that includes Biden winning to result in a real struggle within the GOP, perhaps with C-R Republicans becoming a force again, or perhaps with the emergence of a new C-R party.I don’t expect the hard core 33% or so of the country explicitly dedicated to the racism, sexism, homophobia and xenophobia of Trump to become kinder and gentler, so there will continue to be a market for the likes of Rogan. But a Trump loss would make the more pragmatic, less explicitly racisty part of the party look for a way to re-brand themselves.
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I’m surprised they think the Dem Clean Sweep is most likely. And I think it is extremely unlikely the Dems take the Senate and lose the WH.
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