well, that changes everything

[Jon Delfin]

https://tvline.com/2020/09/15/cbs-all-access-rebranding-paramount-plus-new-name-the-godfather/

Yes, the only thing that's been keeping me from subscribing is the branding.

[Jim Ellwanger]

Disney+... Paramount+... how long until HBO Max gets rebranded as Warner+?

On Sep 15, 2020, at 5:23 AM, Jon Delfin <jond...@gmail.com> wrote:

https://tvline.com/2020/09/15/cbs-all-access-rebranding-paramount-plus-new-name-the-godfather/

Yes, the only thing that's been keeping me from subscribing is the branding.

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[Adam Bowie]

I'm getting ready for RKO+. Launch programming will include:

- Citizen Kane: The Early Years
- A series of movies based on Astaire & Rogers - think Dancing with the Stars mixed with High School Musical

- A remake of The Thing [From Another World] as a 10 part series

Adam

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[Kevin M.]

On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 7:39 AM Jim Ellwanger <trai...@ellwanger.tv> wrote:

Disney+... Paramount+... how long until HBO Max gets rebranded as Warner+?

As a kid, my favorite vinyl record store chain was Music+

Can we bring that back too, please?

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Yes, the only thing that's been keeping me from subscribing is the branding.

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[Ben Scripps]

On Sep 15, 2020, at 11:02 AM, Kevin M. <drunkba...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> As a kid, my favorite vinyl record store chain was Music+
>
> Can we bring that back too, please?

<genewood> It's not just Password... </genewood>

[M-D November]

So wait - following that logic, will Paramount+ eventually upgrade to SUPER PARAMOUNT?  (And will there be some form of magic toaster?)

[Joe Hass]

Nothing but Vicki Lawrence highlights.

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[Kevin M.]

On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 9:31 AM M-D November <mdnov...@gmail.com> wrote:

So wait - following that logic, will Paramount+ eventually upgrade to SUPER PARAMOUNT?  (And will there be some form of magic toaster?)

Super Paramount hosted by Bert Convy!

On Tuesday, September 15, 2020 at 11:09:36 AM UTC-4 b...@benscripps.com wrote:

On Sep 15, 2020, at 11:02 AM, Kevin M. <drunkba...@gmail.com> wrote:


>


> As a kid, my favorite vinyl record store chain was Music+


>


> Can we bring that back too, please?





<genewood> It's not just Password... </genewood>

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Peacock will become Universal+

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[Kevin M.]

Walmart+ launched today too 

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[Doug Eastick]

I hereby now declare this list as TVorNotTV+.

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[Kevin M.]

On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 3:41 PM Doug Eastick <eas...@mcd.on.ca> wrote:

I hereby now declare this list as TVorNotTV+.

Look for our upcoming exclusive content: 

Quickie Review - The Musical

Sikula Hatewatches Sorkin

Mandalorian Haiku

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[Joe Hass]

Now I'd pay for content like that!

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[Brad Beam]

From: tvor...@googlegroups.com [mailto:tvor...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin M.

>Look for our upcoming exclusive content: 

> 

>Mandalorian Haiku

 

ToNT+ freeview:

Man-without-a-name

Quickly picks up his bounty;

Many memes I launch

 

 

(Who do I see about getting my Huluplex account reimbursed?)

 

_   _

|_>|_>  Brad Beam- Belle WV

|_>|_>  http://www.facebook.com/74bmw

 

[Dave Sikula]

Funny you should mention that. I've been going through my Facebook memories, and I'm currently in a cycle of trying to figure out which I hate more on "The Newsroom:" Sorkin's "writing" or Olivia Munn's "acting."

So far, it's a draw.

--Dave Sikula

[Paul Murray]

We'll need to keep adding new ToNT+ content on an ongoing basis for our valued paying customers. I look forward to all such announcements.

[Kevin M.]

On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 12:52 PM Paul Murray <pmur...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

We'll need to keep adding new ToNT+ content on an ongoing basis for our valued paying customers. I look forward to all such announcements.

Can’t we just rerelease a bunch of “classic” TVorNotTV content? 

Aaron Barnhart’s Late Night lineups 

Tom Heald’s On This Day...

That one time Fred Roggin’s wife told me to go f*ck myself 

if only... sigh 

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Kevin M. (RPCV)

[PGage]

That was a great day...

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That one time Fred Roggin’s wife told me to go f*ck myself

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[Bob Jersey]

Début date: March 4th.

https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/paramount-plus-streaming-debut-march-4-viacomcbs-1234887452/ (link)

Jon Delfin, Sept 15th 2020:

https://tvline.com/2020/09/15/cbs-all-access-rebranding-paramount-plus-new-name-the-godfather/

Yes, the only thing that's been keeping me from subscribing is the branding.

B
 

[M-D November]

What's curious to me is that with less than 2 months to relaunch, there's no talk of pricing and/or CableCo partnerships. By rebranding as "Paramount+", they're trying to position themselves as something more than a broadcast network's streaming front (and home to the Big Brother live feeds), but doing so puts the service (in perception, anyway) on the same field as Disney+ and HBOMax.  

HBOMax's price point is overly high, but their CableCo partnerships make the service accessible to traditional subscribers. Disney+ went the other way and went with a lower price point (even more so if you were able to lock in the D23 "founders" discount). CBSAA, meanwhile, despite the linkage to the terrestrial network, offers no CableCo partnerships and has a price point equivalent to Netflix's single stream plan.without anything approaching the same depth of content.

For the rebrand to work (and to gain more subscribers), I think they need to follow the HBO model - especially since a case can be made that CableCo subs already pay enough in fees to get the channels that will live under the P+ banner.  I could even live with something akin to the Peacock model on Xfinity (all content w/ minimal ads is free, fully-ad-free is an upcharge).  

[Mark Jeffries]

They are on Xfinity X1 as of about a  month ago (in fact, the day before HBO Max finally appeared on the platform in plenty of time before "Wonder Woman 1984").  Apple TV was offering a deal of CBSAA and Showtime for $9.99 a month before Christmas.

As far as I know, the only time I've seen "Paramount+" in connection with on-air promotion was on the Nickelodeon telecast of the Bears v. Saints Wild Card game two Sundays ago, where they featured at halftime a scene from the upcoming "Kamp Koral:  SpongeBob's Under Years," which can be described as "SpongeBob Babies" in CGI instead of cel animation and was unimpressive (I know, I'm not the target audience, but...).

Mark Jeffries
spotl...@gmail.com

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[M-D November]

The APP is available on the X1 platform, but you still have to sign up and pay for an account.  There's no discount if you're a cable subscriber.

(And FWIW, the X1 box is a decent DVR, but it SUCKS as a streamer.  Even though I've got an X1 box on every TV in my house, all of my streaming is done via AppleTV or Roku.)