Ex-FOX News talking head mulls run for Congress

[Steve Timko]

Stacey Dash is talking about running from somewhere in California. Does she live in Orange County?

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[Doug Fields]

Los Angeles County, but I’m not sure if she lives in the 30^th District (Encino, Northridge, Tarzana, Woodland Hills) or the 33^rd (Beverly Hills, Malibu, Santa Monica).

 

Doug Fields

Tampa, FL

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[Doug Fields]

Probably the 30^th.  I think my source for “maybe the 33^rd” was making a joke about her character in “Clueless” living in Beverly Hills.

 

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[Jim Ellwanger]

> On Feb 11, 2018, at 2:54 PM, Doug Fields <do...@flids.net> wrote:
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> Probably the 30th. I think my source for “maybe the 33rd” was making a joke about her character in “Clueless” living in Beverly Hills.

Lotsa luck. Both the 30th and the 33rd should be very safe for their Democratic incumbents in the fall (Brad Sherman and Ted Lieu, respectively), regardless of who's running against them.

[Kevin M.]

She won’t win. She won’t place. She won’t show.

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[Doug Fields]

But just try to imagine all the different ways to use “clueless” in a campaign ad.

 

Doug Fields

Tampa, FL

[Steve Timko]

There's probably conservative Congressional districts in Los Angeles County. I don't know the area. But as a rule of thumb she'd need to live behind the Orange Curtain to win or even make a decent showing. Primaries are open, right? So Democrats could cross over and vote for her in the primary to keep a more competent opponent out of the general election, right?

On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 3:03 PM, Doug Fields <do...@flids.net> wrote:

But just try to imagine all the different ways to use “clueless” in a campaign ad.

 

Doug Fields

Tampa, FL

 

 

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She won’t win. She won’t place. She won’t show.

 

On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 2:58 PM Jim Ellwanger <trai...@ellwanger.tv> wrote:

> On Feb 11, 2018, at 2:54 PM, Doug Fields <do...@flids.net> wrote:
>
> Probably the 30th.  I think my source for “maybe the 33rd” was making a joke about her character in “Clueless” living in Beverly Hills.

Lotsa luck. Both the 30th and the 33rd should be very safe for their Democratic incumbents in the fall (Brad Sherman and Ted Lieu, respectively), regardless of who's running against them.

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[Brad Beam]

I’m vaguely aware of California allowing the top two vote-getters in the primary (regardless of party) to proceed to the general election. Is that the case for the congressional races?

 

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[PGage]

There are no conservative congressional districts in the County of Los Angeles. There are 2 Republican Congressmen who represent districts that contain parts of LAC, (one in the north part of the county, the other in the southern part), but both districts are rated politically neutral. This does make them the most conservative districts in LAC, but not conservative per se. Orange County does continue to have mostly Republican Reps and several districts rated conservative, but this is much less true than it used to be. One big reason for this is the percentage of Hispanics in many Orange County congressional districts has increased dramatically over the last 15 years, and Asian immigrant communities, which used to be pretty conservative, have moved in the blue direction.

Of course the entire state of California is becoming hostile territory for Republicans - of 53 Congressional Districts, only 14 are Republican, and this number will almost certainly go down this November, in light of the Republican party’s immigration and tax policies.

California is a state in which the GOP has intentionally committed suicide, starting in the early 1990s. This is almost entirely due to Immigrationi policy, and can be traced back to Pete Wilson’s, former SD Mayor and Ca Governor at the time, aggressively pushing horrific anti-immigration proposals in his effort to convince national Republicans he was not a moderate - part of his presidential ambitions. 

All of which is to say, Dash has zero chance of getting elected to Congress in LA County, and near zero even in the OC, where I expect only well established conservative incumbents to survive.

On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 4:01 PM Steve Timko <steve...@gmail.com> wrote:

There's probably conservative Congressional districts in Los Angeles County. I don't know the area. But as a rule of thumb she'd need to live behind the Orange Curtain to win or even make a decent showing. Primaries are open, right? So Democrats could cross over and vote for her in the primary to keep a more competent opponent out of the general election, right?

On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 3:03 PM, Doug Fields <do...@flids.net> wrote:

But just try to imagine all the different ways to use “clueless” in a campaign ad.

 

Doug Fields

Tampa, FL

 

 

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She won’t win. She won’t place. She won’t show.

 

On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 2:58 PM Jim Ellwanger <trai...@ellwanger.tv> wrote:

> On Feb 11, 2018, at 2:54 PM, Doug Fields <do...@flids.net> wrote:
>
> Probably the 30th.  I think my source for “maybe the 33rd” was making a joke about her character in “Clueless” living in Beverly Hills.

Lotsa luck. Both the 30th and the 33rd should be very safe for their Democratic incumbents in the fall (Brad Sherman and Ted Lieu, respectively), regardless of who's running against them.

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[Bob Jersey]

Steve Timko, 2/11/18:

Stacey Dash is talking about running from somewhere in California. Does she live in Orange County?

[ABCNews link]

The winner is... the 44th.  Carson (where the NFL's Chargers currently play), Compton, Watts, and San Pedro, home of current rep Nanette Barragán [D] (Wiki)...

CNN (article link), Wiki (description of area link)

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[Bob Jersey]

Two former reps of the district include the late Sonny Bono and his widow Mary.   B

[Kevin M.]

I wish Dash the worst of luck. She makes the 4Chan people seem lucid by comparison. I would not put her in charge of an office lunch order, let alone want her to have any actual decision-making powers. 

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Two former reps of the district include the late Sonny Bono and his widow Mary.   B

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[Tom Wolper]

On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 4:50 PM, Kevin M. <drunkba...@gmail.com> wrote:

I wish Dash the worst of luck. She makes the 4Chan people seem lucid by comparison. I would not put her in charge of an office lunch order, let alone want her to have any actual decision-making powers.

From Ballotpedia:

California 44th

70.5% Hispanic

15.1% Black

4.6% Asian

49% White (obviously includes some Hispanic)

Incumbent Nanette Barragan (D) is running again. As a rule incumbents don't get ousted unless there is a scandal or it's a wave election against their party.

Race Ratings
Cook Political Report: Solid D
Sabato's Crystal Ball: Safe D
Inside Elections: Solid D

[PGage]

Kind of.

When Sonny Bono was elected as the Cogressional Representative to CA-44, it was part of eastern Riverside County, which included Palm Springs, where Sonny had been Mayor. California re-districting is complex, but eventually CA-44 was the designation given to the district that covers Compton, Watts, Carson and other communities in South Los Angeles.

The current CA-44 is like 70% Hispanic.

Bono’s old district (now #36) is much more Democratic than it used to be (Palm Springs itself is one of the LGBT capitals of California), so it is unlikely Dash could even get elected there. The current CA-44 has almost nothing in common with the district Bono represented, and Dash has zero-chance of getting elected.

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Two former reps of the district include the late Sonny Bono and his widow Mary.   B

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[Bob Jersey]

PGage, to moi, today (2/27):

Kind of.

When Sonny Bono was elected as the Cogressional Representative to CA-44, it was part of eastern Riverside County, which included Palm Springs, where Sonny had been Mayor. California re-districting is complex, but eventually CA-44 was the designation given to the district that covers Compton, Watts, Carson and other communities in South Los Angeles.

The current CA-44 is like 70% Hispanic.

Bono’s old district (now #36) is much more Democratic than it used to be (Palm Springs itself is one of the LGBT capitals of California), so it is unlikely Dash could even get elected there. The current CA-44 has almost nothing in common with the district Bono represented, and Dash has zero-chance of getting elected.

Tell me about it... here in PA, when they thrash out what our districts will look like (hopefully by the May primaries), I might have a diff number in mine, too... but the battle to determine which plan ultimately does go forward, rages on (PBS station in Philly link, f'rinstance)

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[Steve Timko]

That's the problem with these mass produced data websites. They barf out numbers with no corrections. What you have is about 30% of the Hispanics counting themselves as some other race. The good news for Dash is that almost all of them are probably white. The bad news is that a high percentage of them are probably immigrants, since immigrants tend to get this question wrong more frequently than native born.

The district is probably 70-73 percent white.

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[Steve Timko]

It dawned on me that a significant number of these Hispanics may be undocumented and can't vote. I wonder if Dash knows that and will make illegal aliens a campaign issue.

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[Tom Wolper]

On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 2:22 PM, Steve Timko <steve...@gmail.com> wrote:

It dawned on me that a significant number of these Hispanics may be undocumented and can't vote. I wonder if Dash knows that and will make illegal aliens a campaign issue.

I doubt it. Voter rolls are available for sale, usually to campaign consultants and advocacy organizations, and these numbers come from that list. So the numbers are percentages of voters, not the entire public.

[PGage]

I am not sure what you mean here. “Hispanic” is an ethnicity, not a race. People can identify as both Hispanic and some other race or they can identify as Hispanic and leave race blank. The US govt pays attention to “White, not Hispanic “, but without that qualifier when people treat Hispanic as a race the numbers will often not add up to 100%. 

Again, none of that matters. That district is reliably Democratic. If any Republican won it this year a number of apocalyptic events would already have happened.

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[Kevin M.]

On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 12:00 PM PGage <pga...@gmail.com> wrote:

I am not sure what you mean here. “Hispanic” is an ethnicity, not a race. People can identify as both Hispanic and some other race or they can identify as Hispanic and leave race blank. The US govt pays attention to “White, not Hispanic “, but without that qualifier when people treat Hispanic as a race the numbers will often not add up to 100%. 

Again, none of that matters. That district is reliably Democratic. If any Republican won it this year a number of apocalyptic events would already have happened.

I’m reasonably certain the Russian hackers don’t care about either Ms. Dash or the CA-44th, so she will still be free to push her nonsense on FoxNews 

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[Steve Timko]

The census bureau started counting race and ethnicity separate in 1990. Overwhelmingly, like 95 percent, the people who list themselves in some other category are Hispanics who don't understand they are white. The census bureau has studied this.

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[PGage]

Again, the phrase Hispanics who don’t understand they are white” has no meaning to me. I have studied this issue at some length myself. 

[Steve Timko]

Comedian George Lopez is both Hispanic and white. Does that make sense?

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[PGage]

I don’t know that this is a true statement. As I said, Hispanic is an ethnicity, white is a racial category. It is obviously possible for someone to be both Hispanic and White. I do not think it is possible for a person to be in error in identifying themselves as Hispanic but not white.

[Tom Wolper]

On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 9:56 PM, PGage <pga...@gmail.com> wrote:

I don’t know that this is a true statement. As I said, Hispanic is an ethnicity, white is a racial category. It is obviously possible for someone to be both Hispanic and White. I do not think it is possible for a person to be in error in identifying themselves as Hispanic but not white.

Maybe it's enough to say there is a big enough gray area to make the demographics meaningless. Take a grandchild of immigrants from a Latin American country whose parents were brought up speaking English and the (now adult) grandchild can't functionally speak Spanish. Add that the parents did well for themselves and the adult grandchild spent no time in a barrio. Even if s/he is labeled a Hispanic by the census or in some other demographic listing, how relevant is that? Or take a young man with the last name of Gonzalez but his only Hispanic grandparent was his father's father from whom he gets the name. His 7 other grandparents are of German, Irish, Scandinavian and Italian extraction. How relevant is it to label him Hispanic?

[Steve Timko]

Not every Hispanic is white, correct. I will have access to a desktop computer Wednesday and I will break down the other racial numbers for Hispanics in that Congressional District.

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[PGage]

Again, Hispanic is an ethnicity. It does not refer to language, nationality, (though both of those have some relationship) SES or race. Yes, it is true that for some people ethnic designation would not have meaning, but that does not mean the designation is meaningless for most people. For most of the people who identify as Hispanic in CA 44, the designation is very meaningful.

I don’t know how George Lopez identifies, but most Mexican Americans identify as Hispanic, non-white.* That means their ethnicity is Hispanic and their race is not white. I don’t know of any valid criteria that would allow anyone to say that is an incorrect  identification. 

All of this is relevant here because, in CA at least, Hispanics and Blacks have a significant tendency to vote Democratic. Staci Dash will be running as a Republican in a SoCal district that is more than 80% either Hispanic or black. Obama has a better chance of being elected Governor of Utah than Dash has of being elected Congresswomen in CA-44

* Even though Hispanic is an ethnicity, since such a large fraction of Americans who identify as Hispanic also decline to identify a race (which is included in the code “not white”), for most practical purposes Hispanic gets treated as another racial category, parallel with white,  Black, Asian/Pacific Islander etc, and within certain tolerances that works. I would prefer to eliminate racial categories all together and treat them all as ethnicities, since I think that is what they are, and “race” invokes a biological essentialism which is a holdover from the scientific racism of the 19th century, but that is another matter.

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[Steve Timko]

The race and ethnicity categories are set up by the Office of Management and Budget. As the OMB envisions it, Hispanics who aren't black, Asian or indigenous are supposed to describe themselves as white. 

"In fact, in 2000 and in 2010, the Some Other Race (SOR) population, which was intended to be a small residual category, was the third largest race group. This was primarily due to reporting by Hispanics, who make up the overwhelming majority of those classified as SOR, not identifying with any of the OMB race categories."

https://www.census.gov/about/our-research/race-ethnicity.html

So they talk about doing a better job communicating to them.

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[PGage]

Few arguments are simultaneously more passionate and arcane as those about the US Census Race and Ethnicity questions. I have been involved in a lot of these over the years, and will inhibit the impulse to get deep in those weeds here. I will point out two things:

1. Nothing that you refer to here supports the idea that US Hispanics who choose not to identify as “white” are somehow in error. This has been My main concern with your original claim. The US Government does not try and tell people what their racial and ethnic identification is or should be. US citizens (almost) always self identify (the exception to this is in the case of some native ethnicities). If George Lopez does not want to identify as white, he does not have to, and he is not in error if he chooses not to.

2. The SOR problem is a function of the option introduced in the 2000 Census to choose more than one racial designation, or none. The solution the OMB is moving towards is actually in the direction that I favor (as I noted in my previous post) of combining race and ethnicity. In that case, people will be able to identify as “Hispanic” (specifying, if they like, which specific Hispanic group they come from) as an alternative to identifying as any race. Of course, people will also have the option of marking Hispanic and one or more other race boxes. 

The OMB pilot data suggests that this will reduce the number of people who elect to mark no box (which is what has been bugging OMB).

Your statement that according to the OMB vision Hispanics who aren’t Black, Asian or indigenous are supposed to describe themselves as white is only kind of accurate, in the same way that you could also say Hispanics who aren’t white, Asian or indigenous are supposed to identify as Black. What OMB wants is for most people, using the old system, to select some racial identification. But even under the current system, Hispanics are free to select more than one racial category (just as anyone else is). But what  is not true is that most Hispanics are *really* white, and are wrong unless they so identify. As I say, the 2015 National Content Test (you can download it here: https://www2.census.gov/programs-surveys/decennial/2020/program-management/final-analysis-reports/2015nct-race-ethnicity-analysis.pdf - see in particular page 7 and page 26 ) suggests that in the future, some Hispanics may elect to identify simply as Hispanic, and not check any additional racial designation. This basically collapses the idea of ethnicity and race, which as I say is the direction I think we should be going in.

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[Steve Timko]

Stacey Dash says she’s ‘not here to judge’ neo-Nazis in first TV interview since declaring congressional bid 

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On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 3:22 AM, PGage <pga...@gmail.com> wrote:

Few arguments are simultaneously more passionate and arcane as those about the US Census Race and Ethnicity questions. I have been involved in a lot of these over the years, and will inhibit the impulse to get deep in those weeds here. I will point out two things:

1. Nothing that you refer to here supports the idea that US Hispanics who choose not to identify as “white” are somehow in error. This has been My main concern with your original claim. The US Government does not try and tell people what their racial and ethnic identification is or should be. US citizens (almost) always self identify (the exception to this is in the case of some native ethnicities). If George Lopez does not want to identify as white, he does not have to, and he is not in error if he chooses not to.

2. The SOR problem is a function of the option introduced in the 2000 Census to choose more than one racial designation, or none. The solution the OMB is moving towards is actually in the direction that I favor (as I noted in my previous post) of combining race and ethnicity. In that case, people will be able to identify as “Hispanic” (specifying, if they like, which specific Hispanic group they come from) as an alternative to identifying as any race. Of course, people will also have the option of marking Hispanic and one or more other race boxes. 

The OMB pilot data suggests that this will reduce the number of people who elect to mark no box (which is what has been bugging OMB).

Your statement that according to the OMB vision Hispanics who aren’t Black, Asian or indigenous are supposed to describe themselves as white is only kind of accurate, in the same way that you could also say Hispanics who aren’t white, Asian or indigenous are supposed to identify as Black. What OMB wants is for most people, using the old system, to select some racial identification. But even under the current system, Hispanics are free to select more than one racial category (just as anyone else is). But what  is not true is that most Hispanics are *really* white, and are wrong unless they so identify. As I say, the 2015 National Content Test (you can download it here: https://www2.census.gov/programs-surveys/decennial/2020/program-management/final-analysis-reports/2015nct-race-ethnicity-analysis.pdf - see in particular page 7 and page 26 ) suggests that in the future, some Hispanics may elect to identify simply as Hispanic, and not check any additional racial designation. This basically collapses the idea of ethnicity and race, which as I say is the direction I think we should be going in.

On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 10:21 PM Steve Timko <steve...@gmail.com> wrote:

The race and ethnicity categories are set up by the Office of Management and Budget. As the OMB envisions it, Hispanics who aren't black, Asian or indigenous are supposed to describe themselves as white. 

"In fact, in 2000 and in 2010, the Some Other Race (SOR) population, which was intended to be a small residual category, was the third largest race group. This was primarily due to reporting by Hispanics, who make up the overwhelming majority of those classified as SOR, not identifying with any of the OMB race categories."

https://www.census.gov/about/our-research/race-ethnicity.html

So they talk about doing a better job communicating to them.

On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 9:53 PM, PGage <pga...@gmail.com> wrote:

Again, Hispanic is an ethnicity. It does not refer to language, nationality, (though both of those have some relationship) SES or race. Yes, it is true that for some people ethnic designation would not have meaning, but that does not mean the designation is meaningless for most people. For most of the people who identify as Hispanic in CA 44, the designation is very meaningful.

I don’t know how George Lopez identifies, but most Mexican Americans identify as Hispanic, non-white.* That means their ethnicity is Hispanic and their race is not white. I don’t know of any valid criteria that would allow anyone to say that is an incorrect  identification. 

All of this is relevant here because, in CA at least, Hispanics and Blacks have a significant tendency to vote Democratic. Staci Dash will be running as a Republican in a SoCal district that is more than 80% either Hispanic or black. Obama has a better chance of being elected Governor of Utah than Dash has of being elected Congresswomen in CA-44

* Even though Hispanic is an ethnicity, since such a large fraction of Americans who identify as Hispanic also decline to identify a race (which is included in the code “not white”), for most practical purposes Hispanic gets treated as another racial category, parallel with white,  Black, Asian/Pacific Islander etc, and within certain tolerances that works. I would prefer to eliminate racial categories all together and treat them all as ethnicities, since I think that is what they are, and “race” invokes a biological essentialism which is a holdover from the scientific racism of the 19th century, but that is another matter.

On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 7:48 PM Tom Wolper <two...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 9:56 PM, PGage <pga...@gmail.com> wrote:

I don’t know that this is a true statement. As I said, Hispanic is an ethnicity, white is a racial category. It is obviously possible for someone to be both Hispanic and White. I do not think it is possible for a person to be in error in identifying themselves as Hispanic but not white.

Maybe it's enough to say there is a big enough gray area to make the demographics meaningless. Take a grandchild of immigrants from a Latin American country whose parents were brought up speaking English and the (now adult) grandchild can't functionally speak Spanish. Add that the parents did well for themselves and the adult grandchild spent no time in a barrio. Even if s/he is labeled a Hispanic by the census or in some other demographic listing, how relevant is that? Or take a young man with the last name of Gonzalez but his only Hispanic grandparent was his father's father from whom he gets the name. His 7 other grandparents are of German, Irish, Scandinavian and Italian extraction. How relevant is it to label him Hispanic?

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[Kevin M.]

Aaaaaaaand Dash has dropped out of the race "after much prayer"

Amen to that

https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/30/politics/stacey-dash-withdraws-congressional-race/index.html?sr=twCNN033018stacey-dash-withdraws-congressional-race0405PMStory

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[PGage]

They don’t really need the quotation marks in that headline.

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[Steve Timko]

So it seems that she did it for attention. But why bail already? Maybe because someone explained she would have to show that she got nothing in campaign contributions.

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[Tom Wolper]

On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 8:25 PM, Steve Timko <steve...@gmail.com> wrote:

So it seems that she did it for attention. But why bail already? Maybe because someone explained she would have to show that she got nothing in campaign contributions.

My guess is she talked to a campaign manager or local GOP official about how much effort she would have to put in even for a losing campaign. When she filed for the race she might have thought it was a good way to get attention or to get a metaphorical megaphone to talk about her issues. But to get things going she has to raise money to rent and equip a campaign office and hire some staff. And then she would have to be away from home most every evening raising funds, attending community meetings, and meeting and listening to potential constituents. And all this for a race she is all but guaranteed to lose.

[Kevin M.]

Among the problems I have with all the cable news stations are their insistence on using talking heads to fill their 24 hour broadcast day, which would be fine if the talking heads had experience at anything other than talking (or Tweeting). But they don't, and I hold news organizations to a higher standard than I hold my social media newsfeed.

If I were to attempt to crawl into the mind of Ms Dash (it's... so... cold... in... here...), even she is smart enough to know FoxNews only had her on so they could say they had an African-American woman on their network, that she has no expertise or skills to contribute to any serious topic such as economics or international relations. Rather than attempt to actually learn about or get experience in a topic of substance, she decided it'd be easier to try the only other job that seems to reward talking (or Tweeting)... becoming a GOP politician. Now she has learned that even the easy route is too difficult for her.

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[Tom Wolper]

On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 12:03 AM, Kevin M. <drunkba...@gmail.com> wrote:

Among the problems I have with all the cable news stations are their insistence on using talking heads to fill their 24 hour broadcast day, which would be fine if the talking heads had experience at anything other than talking (or Tweeting). But they don't, and I hold news organizations to a higher standard than I hold my social media newsfeed.

If I were to attempt to crawl into the mind of Ms Dash (it's... so... cold... in... here...), even she is smart enough to know FoxNews only had her on so they could say they had an African-American woman on their network, that she has no expertise or skills to contribute to any serious topic such as economics or international relations. Rather than attempt to actually learn about or get experience in a topic of substance, she decided it'd be easier to try the only other job that seems to reward talking (or Tweeting)... becoming a GOP politician. Now she has learned that even the easy route is too difficult for her.

As Colbert proved years ago with his Better Know a District years ago, there is no shortage of idiots in Congress. If Stacy Dash ran in a reliably red district and had the backing of the local party behind her, nothing you wrote above would disqualify her from getting elected and serving in Congress.

[Steve Timko]

Stacey Dash is playing a role in a pro-life "Roe vs Wade" movie with Jon Voight, Corbin Bernsen, and !Steve Gutenberg!

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[Kevin M.]

Gee, how were they able to afford Gutenberg? And will this affect his job at McDonalds? 

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[Kevin M.]

Stacey Dash arrested over the weekend, and no I don’t really care  

https://www.baynews9.com/fl/tampa/news/2019/09/30/actress-stacey-dash-arrested-in-pasco-county

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[Steve Timko]

Get Stacy Dash to make a Cameo video for $50.

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[John Edwards]

That’s less than what 90 Day Fiancé idiots are charging nowadays.

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[Steve Timko]

Her husband wants marriages annulled. Says he was religiously hypnotized into marrying her.

https://www.tmz.com/2020/08/19/stacey-dash-husband-claims-hypnotized-pastor-false-marriage-annul/

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