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Bob Jersey

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Dec 30, 2020, 11:45:19 AM12/30/20
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...and gets a side shot in on Colbert... https://www.primetimer.com/barnhart/yearly-departed (link)

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Tom Wolper

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Dec 30, 2020, 3:22:54 PM12/30/20
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On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 11:45 AM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <tvor...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
...and gets a side shot in on Colbert... https://www.primetimer.com/barnhart/yearly-departed (link)

I agree with Aaron about Colbert. The Late Show isn't sharp or insightful. When I don't watch I don't feel as if I missed anything.

Dave Sikula

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Dec 31, 2020, 4:43:58 AM12/31/20
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I'll take Colbert in a heartbeat over Noah. What was once smart political commentary has devolved into a series of opportunities for Noah to do shitty accents and inept character work. If that weren't bad enough, most of the correspondents (with the exceptions of Wood, Klepper, and occasionally Chieng) are awful enough to be on SNL.

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Doug Eastick

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Dec 31, 2020, 8:57:05 AM12/31/20
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For more than two decades, I've had a DVR record all (or most) of the 11pm-onwards shows.  My new TiVo from Eastlink (cable co) has 6 tuners, so that's easy, especially with East and West coast channels.   The DVR keeps 5 days of each show.

I'm finding now that I don't even watch them.  Early on in Trump administration, I would watch Colbert, Noah, or Seth... But the past year, I rarely even watch them. Maybe it's a pandemic thing... I dunno. Hmm, yeah the past year has been much more screen time (to my eyes) for evening cable news -- the shows Kevin hates -- with host's names in titles.

Oh, the Graham Norton Show is a good chat show... Very little politics... And some interesting stories with celebs.

Man, I cannot say enough positive stuff about how nice it is to have a TiVo interface back in my house. And the peanut 🥜 remote.

Apologies... Seems I took a tangent from the thread.

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Greg Diener

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Jan 3, 2021, 2:08:51 PM1/3/21
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I have to say Aaron has a point here although I wouldn't go that far comparing him with Big Jaw. I've found Colbert's pandemic shows to be unfunny and bland and the show to be way too Trump-centric over the last four years. Colbert has clearly been hurt more than the other late night shows with the lack of an audience and I feel like the show has basically been on auto-pilot since April.

I wonder how Colbert's show will change after January 20th once Biden is sworn in and Trump fades into the rear-view mirror despite the inevitable bitching at whatever on his feed over at Jack Dorsey's Hate Box.

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Greg Diener

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Jan 3, 2021, 2:12:13 PM1/3/21
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That's what happens when your writers are too busy on Jack Dorsey's Hate Box focusing on bitching at people like Chuck Schumer for being weak (coughmattnegrincough) to score social media dittos than worrying about trying to make Trevor Noah funny.

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PGage

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Jan 3, 2021, 3:09:29 PM1/3/21
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 Still have not seen Colbert since April, but I find it impossible to believe he has turned into Jay Leno. I also agree with Dave that, when last I checked into both of them in real time, I preferred Colbert by a significant margin over Noah. Noah however benefits much more from internet clips.

I’m not exactly sure what the criticism of Colbert is here; is it that he is too hard on Trump (not possible). I don’t think it’s even that he spends too much time on Trump, whose ugliness and toxicity has infected so much of our public life. For me, I kind of started feeling that Colbert was becoming like the kid who was bullied for being a nerd in junior high school, only to find himself popular in his senior year of HS. He seems less interested in the smarter, more nuanced critiques of Trump and Trumpism that brought him to prominence, and started relying more often (not exclusively) on broader, less demanding bits. 

Colbert also panders so much to the Bernie Bros that I would not worry about him running out of material should Trump fade from the headlines; he has a lot of “Biden is old” and “Biden is not really different than Trump” jokes loaded and ready to go.

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Greg Diener

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Jan 3, 2021, 6:57:57 PM1/3/21
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On Sunday, January 3, 2021 at 3:09:29 PM UTC-5 PGage wrote:

Colbert also panders so much to the Bernie Bros that I would not worry about him running out of material should Trump fade from the headlines; he has a lot of “Biden is old” and “Biden is not really different than Trump” jokes loaded and ready to go.


 Didn't Colbert fall for the Tara Reade allegations on Biden back in the spring? I vaugely recall hearing something about that.

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Jan 3, 2021, 8:11:06 PM1/3/21
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To be fair to both Colbert and SNL, I expect the "Joe is so old that ..." will become the common late-night trope about him. It's either that or he's too bland. The mainstream comedians won't go to the senility jokes (and let me firmly state that I think he has all his marbles), and that doesn't leave a lot other than trains and touching/getting too close to people.

Sure, it's lazy and uncreative, but it'll be the easiest way to mock the president, which is these shows' bread and butter, and something that feel they have to do to avoid the usual pearl-clutching from the right about how they don't pick on Democrats. When I think back on all the times that the "ultra-liberal" Jon Stewart tried to both-sides everything, I can only laugh at that idea.

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Jan 4, 2021, 12:29:32 AM1/4/21
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Sure, but Colbert (at least in my judgement) stood out originally because his takes were more nuanced and profound. For me the problem has been some regression to the mean.

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