Here's your debate moderators

[Bob Jersey]

Chris Wallace, 9/29 in Cleveland (traditional format)

Susan Page, USA Today, 10/7 in Salt Lake (the veep candidates)

Steve Scully, C-SPAN, 10/15 in Miami (the town hall)

Kristin Welker, 10/22 in Nashville (traditional)

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/foxs-chris-wallace-nbcs-kristen-welker-c-spans-steve-scully-and-usa-todays-susan-page-tapped-as-presidential-debate-moderators (link)

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[PGage]

Just for the completists, Wallace is (of course) from Fox News and Welker from NBC News. It looks like Wallace is only repeat offender.

It has been my judgement that, aside from Russians and idiosyncratic FBI Directors, the single most impactful event from the 2016 General Election was the third debate hosted by Wallace. He did a credible job, but asked questions predictably of interest to Fox News viewers. As I recall, his first set of questions was about SCOTUS and constitutional issues, specifically gun regulation and abortion. Hillary, who in my view was feeling confident if her win, and eager to show the Sanders crowd her Progressive bona fide’s, leaned heavily into her strong support for curbing gun violence and protecting a woman’s right to choose (positions I too strongly share). 

At the time I winced, wishing she had found a more moderate way to answer those questions (something like: “I support constitutional protection of the right to own guns and to have an abortion. I also support common sense regulation of those rights, like background checks and limitations based on age of the fetus; I would appoint justices that show evidence of the same common sense respect for our Constitution”). I feared her tone was enough to turn off a critical mass of Suburban white voters, and it was totally unnecessary. Hopefully Biden will be ready for things like this.

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[Bob Jersey]

Scully was the pinch-hitter if needed for '16's five mods (Anderson Cooper and Martha Raddatz teamed for the town hall).  No word on a backup this year.

PGage, Sept 2nd:

Just for the completists, Wallace is (of course) from Fox News and Welker from NBC News. It looks like Wallace is only repeat offender.

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[Joe Hass]

For one brief moment I saw "Scully" and thought "Vin's coming out of retirement?!?"

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[Jim Ellwanger]

> On Sep 2, 2020, at 3:43 PM, Joe Hass <hassg...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> For one brief moment I saw "Scully" and thought "Vin's coming out of retirement?!?"

Well, he is joining social media this week:

https://twitter.com/TheVinScully/status/1301218334365511680

https://www.latimes.com/sports/dodgers/story/2020-09-01/vin-scully-jumping-into-social-media-combat-loneliness-miss-the-fans

[Tom Wolper]

Does anybody think the debates this year will have any value. There's only one thing we know for sure and it's that Trump will repeatedly lie and refuse to back down even if the moderators show video proving it. I guarantee you Trump is going to say that in health insurance policy he is going to protect patients with pre-existing conditions and Biden will end those protections in contravention to reality. Biden may even say that Trump is lying but Trump will continue to repeat the lie. In that case how meaningful is a debate? There is a lot in the way we do national elections which is useless and even damaging but we stick with the status quo so that we don't slip into chaos and end up with empty rituals instead. That's true about the endless slog before the primaries, making Iowa and New Hampshire the early primary states, the conventions, and now the debates.

[Kevin M.]

Every election year, there are always surveys which reveal that a sizable percentage of people don’t make up their minds until after the debates. In my lifetime, I’ve never met one of them. I hope I never do.   

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[PGage]

The Debates are one of the set pieces in uS presidential campaigns that can make a significant impact, but I agree that with Trump involved they are unlikely to. If they do, it will only be because Biden does something that reinforces the narrative that his health/cognition has deteriorated. As has been discussed here in the past, Trump is immune. Unlike any other modern political figure, he pays no political price for lying, even when caught. He pays no price for being ignorant or incompetent. There are voters every cycle (3-7%) who in October are still not sure who they will vote for, and many of these are typically influenced ny debate performance. But I doubt there is even 1% this cycle who were considering Trump, but will be turned off because of lies he tells or ignorance He reveals during these debates.

Since Biden can only be hurt by Debates, it would be expedient for him to avoid them, but doubt there is any way to do that without fanning the flames about him. My advice to him: Dont try to win, or mop the floor with Trump. Have 2 or 3 points to make each debate (1 of which is “who do you trust to keep you safe from COVID.? And the another is “I will save Social Security and Medicare) And be happy with a draw.

On Sat, Sep 12, 2020 at 3:26 PM Tom Wolper <two...@gmail.com> wrote:

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[David Bruggeman]

Yeah, save the red meat for the VP debates.  It won't be Warren-Bloomberg in Vegas, but it has the potential to be brutal.

David

[Joe Hass]

(looks over at "PUBLIC SCHOOL MADE ME" sticker on the whiteboard in the office I share with my seven year old)

(deep, longing sigh)

I know Camelot is JFK's song, but it, along with my son's love of pinky promises, will always remind me of the first presidential candidate I loved.

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[David Bruggeman]

My favorite recap of the slaughter was from Desus and Mero on Showtime (though like Last Week Tonight, most of their stuff ends up on the YouTube).  Warren had been on their show a few times, they don't care for Bloomberg, and called it like a street fight.  They (2 black men) also dropped the n-word a few times, so their stuff isn't for everybody.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMFDuIexoO8

David

[Joe Hass]

Inexplicably this escaped my initial recaps, but oh, God, how I needed this tonight.

So completely NotTV: I live in the far west suburbs of Chicago. I have recurring donations to two US senators from the same state. And it ain't Duckworth and Durbin: it's Markey and Warren. I ought to move to Beverly at the rate I'm giving them money.

Oh, sorry, TV content...um...Tony Dungy sucks.

Back to you in the studio.

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[David Bruggeman]

You'll probably love Warren guiding Desus and Mero through an escape room.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUVwRIQkaIM

Not for nothing, I'd love to see more candidates do this, with or without talk show hosts.

David

[Tom Wolper]

On Sat, Sep 12, 2020 at 7:44 PM 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV <tvor...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Yeah, save the red meat for the VP debates.  It won't be Warren-Bloomberg in Vegas, but it has the potential to be brutal.

Debates in the primaries can be exciting or brutal when there are of candidates (meaning no incumbent). The lesser known candidates can get a lot of much needed attention by attacking the front runners. For the general race the candidates are known and they can't show themselves as being wild or ill-mannered even when facing bald faced lies. Pence knows his talking points and will stick to them no matter what. The format and moderators won't give Harris an opportunity to be brutal.

[PGage]

While Presidential Debates can move the needle several percentage points Veep debates never do. But they can be more entertaining, but usually only when at least one of the VP candidates are inexperienced (e.g. Quayle, Palin). Neither Pence nor Harris for in to that category. Each will give their base some good red meat to chew on, but I don’t expect much that will change anyone’s minds, even the mythical undecideds. And I doubt Warren would be any different.

This race will tighten, but likely not from any of the usual set pieces, 7nless Biden or Harris do or say something that provides extra cover for suburban white women to stay with Trump. With Trump, it will be social media and free traditional media coverage of the outrageous things he says and does at his rally’s, and voter suppression and Dirty tricks domestic and foreign that will tighten the race.

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[Bob Jersey]

DJT told the Wa(r)shington Examiner he's open to more debates, notably a four-hour (!) one on Rogan's podcast...

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/trump-says-he-wants-a-four-hour-debate-with-biden-moderated-by-joe-rogan (link)

Sure, bore people to sleep...

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[Kevin M.]

Rogan was pushing the widely debunked “left wing arsonist” conspiracy theory this week

https://twitter.com/alexpattyy/status/1306690180452167680?s=21

Oh, how I miss the Joe Rogan from “Newsradio”

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[PGage]

Newsradio was a good, not great show, but it’s parts were so much greater than its whole. We can mis so many of those parts.

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[JW]

For the record:

https://twitter.com/joerogan/status/1307020061215993856