How to translate

[Sergi Almacellas Abellana]

Hi,

I just added the how to translate section from the old wiki to the
website. So please review the changes here:

https://codereview.tryton.org/24091002/

Any comments will be much apreciated.


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[Cédric Krier]

On 2016-03-30 17:33, Sergi Almacellas Abellana wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I just added the how to translate section from the old wiki to the website.
> So please review the changes here:
>
> https://codereview.tryton.org/24091002/
>
> Any comments will be much apreciated.

This process is deprecated, we use Pootle now.

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[Sergi Almacellas Abellana]

El 30/03/16 a les 17:58, Cédric Krier ha escrit:

> On 2016-03-30 17:33, Sergi Almacellas Abellana wrote:
>> >Hi,
>> >
>> >I just added the how to translate section from the old wiki to the website.
>> >So please review the changes here:
>> >
>> >https://codereview.tryton.org/24091002/
>> >
>> >Any comments will be much apreciated.
> This process is deprecated, we use Pootle now.

That's what i explain in the page. How to translate with pootle.

I picked the notes (about pootle) from the old wiki and improved it a
little bit.

[Cédric Krier]

On 2016-03-30 18:36, Sergi Almacellas Abellana wrote:
> El 30/03/16 a les 17:58, Cédric Krier ha escrit:
> >On 2016-03-30 17:33, Sergi Almacellas Abellana wrote:
> >>>Hi,
> >>>
> >>>I just added the how to translate section from the old wiki to the website.
> >>>So please review the changes here:
> >>>
> >>>https://codereview.tryton.org/24091002/
> >>>
> >>>Any comments will be much apreciated.
> >This process is deprecated, we use Pootle now.
> That's what i explain in the page. How to translate with pootle.
>
> I picked the notes (about pootle) from the old wiki and improved it a little
> bit.

Indeed I don't think we need any kind of pages. We have a link to the
pootle server in community page. And people can contact us from Pootle
to request the language creation.
About the time frame, I think it is no more accurate, we switched to
Pootle to allow among others to have continuous translation.
Also I found that until now (when we still have the wiki) nobody
followed the procedure and they just asked somewhere on ML or IRC etc.
So I think it is too much to have a procedure for something that happens
very rarely.

[Sergi Almacellas Abellana]

El 30/03/16 a les 19:05, Cédric Krier ha escrit:

> On 2016-03-30 18:36, Sergi Almacellas Abellana wrote:
>> El 30/03/16 a les 17:58, Cédric Krier ha escrit:
>>> On 2016-03-30 17:33, Sergi Almacellas Abellana wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I just added the how to translate section from the old wiki to the website.
>>>>> So please review the changes here:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://codereview.tryton.org/24091002/
>>>>>
>>>>> Any comments will be much apreciated.
>>> This process is deprecated, we use Pootle now.
>> That's what i explain in the page. How to translate with pootle.
>>
>> I picked the notes (about pootle) from the old wiki and improved it a little
>> bit.
>
> Indeed I don't think we need any kind of pages. We have a link to the
> pootle server in community page. And people can contact us from Pootle
> to request the language creation.

But it's not clear that Pootle means translations. I think we should
clarify the translation process, so newcomers can easly contribute on
translations.

> About the time frame, I think it is no more accurate, we switched to
> Pootle to allow among others to have continuous translation.

So maybe we should remove this paragraph and mention the translation
process on the first steps of the contribute page.

> Also I found that until now (when we still have the wiki) nobody
> followed the procedure and they just asked somewhere on ML or IRC etc.
> So I think it is too much to have a procedure for something that happens
> very rarely.

I just write it down to have some reference as somebody asked it on the
spanish mailing list, so when asking on the mailing list we can easly
answer with a link to the how to translate (or contribute page).

[Raimon Esteve]

El dia 30/03/2016 21.37, "Sergi Almacellas Abellana" <se...@koolpi.com> va escriure:

+1

Or a new section, "how to"?

[Mathias Behrle]

* Sergi Almacellas Abellana: " Re: [tryton] How to translate" (Wed, 30 Mar 2016
21:37:11 +0200):

Thanks, Sergi, for your initiative.

I will post some minor issues to the review when it is clear, if it will be
merged, otherwise it is wasted time.

> El 30/03/16 a les 19:05, Cédric Krier ha escrit:
> > On 2016-03-30 18:36, Sergi Almacellas Abellana wrote:
> >> El 30/03/16 a les 17:58, Cédric Krier ha escrit:
> >>> On 2016-03-30 17:33, Sergi Almacellas Abellana wrote:
> >>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I just added the how to translate section from the old wiki to the
> >>>>> website. So please review the changes here:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://codereview.tryton.org/24091002/
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Any comments will be much apreciated.
> >>> This process is deprecated, we use Pootle now.
> >> That's what i explain in the page. How to translate with pootle.
> >>
> >> I picked the notes (about pootle) from the old wiki and improved it a
> >> little bit.
> >
> > Indeed I don't think we need any kind of pages. We have a link to the
> > pootle server in community page. And people can contact us from Pootle
> > to request the language creation.
>
> But it's not clear that Pootle means translations. I think we should
> clarify the translation process, so newcomers can easly contribute on
> translations.

It is a common wide spread error, that newcomers will provide just about good
translations. In my experience those attempts often just put an additional
burden on the language maintainer to correct/explain the errors.

That doesn't change the fact, that I appreciate your effort to make things more
clear.

> > About the time frame, I think it is no more accurate, we switched to
> > Pootle to allow among others to have continuous translation.
>
> So maybe we should remove this paragraph and mention the translation
> process on the first steps of the contribute page.

While of course it is possible to translate continously, finally a consistent
translation and all checks make most, if not only sense in the string freeze.
So of course the time frames are quite important.

> > Also I found that until now (when we still have the wiki) nobody
> > followed the procedure and they just asked somewhere on ML or IRC etc.
> > So I think it is too much to have a procedure for something that happens
> > very rarely.
>
> I just write it down to have some reference as somebody asked it on the
> spanish mailing list, so when asking on the mailing list we can easly
> answer with a link to the how to translate (or contribute page).

When users are asking on IRC or mailing lists this could also be, because they
didn't find intuitively the information.

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