New release on Monday

[Cédric Krier]

Hi,

I'm sad to say that I will not make the release on Monday because we
don't have the news written:
https://codereview.tryton.org/24161003/
And I will not spend my week-end to write it, I'm tired to do things
like that.

I'm also sad that I have to complaint over and over to get things
critical like this be done. Usually, I'm not this kind of guys. I don't
complain, I act instead. But it lasted 8 years, I have been doing that
without see any changes. So now I just let it go.

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[Udo Spallek]

Hi,

Fri, 22 Apr 2016 18:10:24 +0200
Cédric Krier <cedric...@b2ck.com>:

>I'm sad to say that I will not make the release on Monday because we
>don't have the news written:
>https://codereview.tryton.org/24161003/

its a pity, but I understand your decision.

Haven't recognized the codereview of the release message, but
to be true, the whole week I was wondering when a draft version would
come to review … next time I'll ask.

I reviewed the news and added several paragraphs.

It would be cool if some others could jump in and help out!
On Monday I'll review another time.

Regards,

Udo
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[Sergi Almacellas Abellana]

El 22/04/16 a les 20:20, 'Udo Spallek' via tryton-dev ha escrit:

> Hi,
>
> Fri, 22 Apr 2016 18:10:24 +0200
> Cédric Krier<cedric...@b2ck.com>:
>> >I'm sad to say that I will not make the release on Monday because we
>> >don't have the news written:
>> >https://codereview.tryton.org/24161003/
> its a pity, but I understand your decision.
>

Same here.

> Haven't recognized the codereview of the release message, but
> to be true, the whole week I was wondering when a draft version would
> come to review … next time I'll ask.
>
> I reviewed the news and added several paragraphs.
>

I have also added several comments and paragraph to the reviews, so it
will be great if all of us can try to write some small paragraphs until
all is writen.

> It would be cool if some others could jump in and help out!
> On Monday I'll review another time.
>
> Regards,
>
> Udo


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[Karla Stenger]

2016-04-22 13:10 GMT-03:00 Cédric Krier <cedric...@b2ck.com>:

Hi,

I'm sad to say that I will not make the release on Monday because we
don't have the news written:
https://codereview.tryton.org/24161003/

​Hi,

I just added my 2 cents​

 

​also.
​

And I will not spend my week-end to write it, I'm tired to do things
like that.

I'm also sad that I have to complaint over and over to get things
critical like this be done. Usually, I'm not this kind of guys. I don't
complain, I act instead. But it lasted 8 years, I have been doing that
without see any changes. So now I just let it go.

​Cédric, I don't see any complain. All I see is a call for help, ​which is totally human and understandable.

And, to tell the truth, it feels just fine that you take a break and say it out loud, otherwise everyone get's used to you doing all this heavy duty, and we tend to forget that this is an open project where we should all collaborate on what we can and not just demand things from you.

I don't think it's good to push yourself to the limits until you are exausted. Tryton needs you in good health.

​For last, I just hope I'm not out of place or making you uncomfortable by telling all of this​ publicly... but I felt it necessary.

Thank you Cédric for all your contribution!
Thank you for this great project!
Thank you for the opportunity to learn and contribute back too.

Hope you are having a great weekend :-)

Karla​.

​PS: If you are reading up to this point and you ever contributed to Tryton, Thank you too!

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[Nicolas Évrard]

* Karla Stenger [2016-04-23 17:12 +0200]:

Thank you Karla for this initiative, it demonstrates the values of
Free Software such as respect, sharing knowledge and involvement in a
project. You're a valuable member of this community and I think it
should be said.

That said, I find that indeed there is sometime a consumer mentality
amongst the member of the Tryton community (and I consider myself
having sometimes this problem too). We, as a community, share the
values of Free Software but unfortunately in the acts we do it does
not always show.

Maybe it's a matter of having room to express himself, maybe it's a
matter of fluency in python or of understanding of business process.
But I am pretty sure there is also room for non technical help (we've
been waiting for business cases for the website for months now).

So let's tackle those issues together as a community, we all want
Tryton to succeed after all.

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[Oscar Alvarez]

El 24/04/16 a las 04:59, Nicolas Évrard escribió:

Ok, In this moment I have a patch ready for upload but I can not upload,
with this command

hg review --send_email -i 24161003 -m 'Add charts comments'

I get this message:

Issue creation errors: {'user': ["You (oscar.alvarez.montero) don't
own this issue (24161003)"]}

Maybe my command is wrong?

Oscar Alvarez

[Karla Stenger]

​Thank you Nicolas, this is more than I expected and your words fill me with confidence and joy.​

 

That said, I find that indeed there is sometime a consumer mentality
amongst the member of the Tryton community (and I consider myself
having sometimes this problem too). We, as a community, share the
values of Free Software but unfortunately in the acts we do it does
not always show.

Maybe it's a matter of having room to express himself, maybe it's a
matter of fluency in python or of understanding of business process.
But I am pretty sure there is also room for non technical help (we've
been waiting for business cases for the website for months now).

​I would add one difficulty, we all work at some specific project (for living) and so need to solve some problem for it, and many times we need it urgently. The hard part is to understand the generic approach of Tryton, and be able to split your thoughts, contributing what can be shared, and putting appart what's specific.

I'm learning this from Cédric specially (altough other contributors also do it quite well), but I've noticed this causes a lot of harsh arguments when someone proposes something and probably feels rejected.

​I just wish each one of us can use every opportunity to learn, leaving aside our individualities and prides in order to make ourselves and Tryton grow.​

So let's tackle those issues together as a community, we all want
Tryton to succeed after all.

​+1
​

 

Ok, In this moment I have a patch ready for upload but I can not upload, with this command

   hg review --send_email -i 24161003 -m 'Add charts comments'

I get this message:

   Issue creation errors: {'user': ["You (oscar.alvarez.montero) don't own this issue (24161003)"]}

Maybe my command is wrong?

​Oscar,

since the review was not created by yourself you cannot upload changes with 'hg review' (not that I know of at least).

The best way to contribute your proposals in this case is to add in-line comments in the review itself.

Just browse the review and double click a line, save each of the comments, and when you are done, publish them using the link for it.​

Thank you

Karla.

[Nicolas Évrard]

* Oscar Alvarez [2016-04-24 16:06 +0200]:

>
>Ok, In this moment I have a patch ready for upload but I can not
>upload, with this command
>
> hg review --send_email -i 24161003 -m 'Add charts comments'
>
>I get this message:
>
> Issue creation errors: {'user': ["You (oscar.alvarez.montero) don't
>own this issue (24161003)"]}
>
>Maybe my command is wrong?

No, what happens is that you're not the owner of the issue.
Only the owner and the people specified in the COLLABORATOR can upload
a patch.

So just request to be added to the collaborators of this patch (the
people owning this review must put in the description the line
COLLABORATOR=your_email_address).