Brisbane photo - 271

[Ian Saxon]

444 at Bulimia Ferry terminus.

Regards,

Ian 

[Vera Mills]

Hello,

Not being au fait with Brisbane's trams, is this actually the Bulimba Ferry terminus?

My 2009 Brisway indicates that a tram never served the Bulimba Ferry Terminal at the end of Oxford St but did serve the Tenneriffe Ferry Terminal at the end of Commercial Rd.

Enlightenment would be appreciated.

Regards,

Glen Mills

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[David McLoughlin]

Glen Mills wrote:

> Not being au fait with Brisbane's trams, is this actually the Bulimba Ferry terminus?

Yes.

> My 2009 Brisway indicates that a tram never served the Bulimba Ferry Terminal at the end of Oxford St but did serve the Tenneriffe Ferry Terminal at the end of Commercial Rd.

The ferry from Tenneriffe to Bulimba left Tenneriffe at the river end of Commercial Road, which is where the photo was taken.  Bulimba is on the other side of the river.

Bulimba Ferry trams ran to Ashgrove via Adelaide St as Route 76.

When the Bulimba Ferry line and three others closed, Ashgrove trams were redirected to Grange for their final few years

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[Alex Cowie]

Glen,

I attach an extract from a Dept. of Public Lands August 1959 map of Brisbane which is available online at the Brisbane City Library.  The entire map is a large (46MB) file but shows the details of the Brisbane tram system (https://library-brisbane.ent.sirsidynix.net.au/client/en_AU/search/asset/24800/0).

Th extract shows the two ferries from Teneriffe - Bulimba and New Farm Wharf - Hawthorne across the Bulimba Reach identified  respectively as the Bulimba and Hawthorne ferries  The railway which serviced the wharves was known as the Bulimba branch.  In the early 20th century Bulimba included part of present day Teneriffe and New Farm. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulimba_Branch_railway_line.

Alex C

On Tuesday, November 3, 2020 at 10:11:13 AM UTC+10:30, Vera Mills wrote:

Hello,

Not being au fait with Brisbane's trams, is this actually the Bulimba Ferry terminus?

My 2009 Brisway indicates that a tram never served the Bulimba Ferry Terminal at the end of Oxford St but did serve the Tenneriffe Ferry Terminal at the end of Commercial Rd.

Enlightenment would be appreciated.

Regards,

Glen Mills

On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 at 12:01, Ian Saxon <ian_...@bigpond.com> wrote:

444 at Bulimia Ferry terminus.

Regards,

Ian 

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Glen,

Prior to 1910 Bulimba spanned both sides of the river and took in what is now Teneriffe and part of New Farm.

Both the horse and electric trams had a Bulimba Ferry terminus in Commercial Rd.

Cheers,

Mick in Brisbane

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Alex,

I have found that map to be very helpful over the years, as it not only shows the tram routes, but also the stop numbers, which are quite handy when trying to pin down the location of a photo.

Cheers,

Mick in Brisbane

 

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[Vera Mills]

Hello Alex and Mick,

Thank you for your information and map.

In the last years of the Brisbane trams I would presume that the terminus in Commercial Road was called the Teneriffe Ferry Terminal with the terminus on the other side of the river called the Bulimba Ferry Terminal as per the 2009 Brisway street directory.   Interesting fact is that the latter was not far from the Balmoral tram terminus.

Regards,

Glen

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[Anthony Dudley Horscroft]

With all this re Bulimba, I thought that readers might like to enjoy photos of the latest ship named "Bulimba".  She was built for the British India Steam Navigation Company, and traded whilst owned by the BI from India or the Persian Gulf to Australia.  When launched, instead of being christened with a bottle of champagne, a bottle of Bulimba Beer was used.  The Bulimba Brewery was bought out by Carlton and United in 1961, three years after the ship was launched, but lasted under CUB ownership till 1991.

See http://www.clydeships.co.uk/view.php?ref=9254 and scroll down for her photos.

Regards

Dudley Horscroft

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[David McLoughlin]

Glen wrote:

> In the last years of the Brisbane trams I would presume that the terminus in Commercial Road was called the Teneriffe Ferry Terminal with the terminus on the other side of the river called the Bulimba Ferry Terminal as per the 2009 Brisway street directory.

This is not my clear recollection, as someone who lived as a schoolboy in Brisbane in 1969 and 1970  (in a year away from Melbourne where I was born and raised). Even the replacement bus  (which ran from Toowong, where I lived and went to school that year) still said Bulimba Ferry.

The reason it said Bulimba Ferry is because its terminus in Commercial Road is where the ferry left for Bulimba. It is what that ferry was called. The Bulimba Ferry. It is like the Manly Ferry in Sydney. Although it goes to and from from Circular Quay, it is not called the Circular Quay Ferry. Catching the tram 76 and later the bus 36 from the city or valley to the Bulimba Ferry was the quickest way to get to Bulimba. Otherwise you had to catch tram 60/70  (later bus 160/170) from Queen St to Balmoral via Woolloongabba which was a longer trip. The service was a feeder service to the Bulimba Ferry and after leaving the Valley ran through an area of decaying warehouses and industrial buildings where nobody lived and fewer and fewer worked by the 1960s and hence was picked by Clem for one of the first tram closures because so few people used it.  Today that  area is repopulated and one of the wealthiest in Brisbane as it has gentrified with the woke, green, affluent avocado-smashers, who live along the old wharves in the now renovated warehouses  from Commercial Rd to New Farm.

I noted on my most recent visit to Brisbane that all the bus routes have had major changes since tram days and my child visits there.  We stayed at New Farm (in one of the old warehouses) during that visit and used bus 199 to get into town. It was like a mix of the old 77 and 78 New Farm trams and 177 and 178 buses in that it ran via the Valley and Brunswick St to New Farm and then turned left and ran along the old wharves, past the old 78 tram and 178 bus terminus to the old Bulimba Ferry terminus, which was by now called Teneriffe Ferry on the bus destination. The 199 ran to West End as its other terminus, as did the 77 tram and 177 bus of yore. I have read that it is Brisbane's busiest bus route (!!!) and was to have become a tram again under one of the various tram proposals that have come and gone in the usual political battles of the past few decades.