George Street Sydney

[Ian Saxon]

They complained about the Government digging up George Street for the light rail.

Here is photo of George Street being dug up for the Town Hall underground railway station in the late 1920’s.

Regards,
Ian

[peterm...@gmail.com]

Ian, How long was the ESR undrerground platform platform construction, with the above street being out of action for some lengthy time?

[bblun...@yahoo.com]

IIRC, The ESR platforms were there in the original build, just never actually used.

St James also got (still) unused platforms.

Brian

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[TP]

Yes, the ESR platforms were always there. Interesting to see the metro stations being built without affecting the streets. Mostly off-street and a deal of keyhole work.

Tony P

[bblun...@yahoo.com]

They have demolished lots of buildings to build metro stations. Cut-and-cover in an extreme form.

Brian

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[Geoff Olsen]

Yes the platforms were there partly built and could be observed from platform 6. Some of the area was screened off. The difference being that the St. James platforms were finished but are still waiting for track to be laid. Unlikely to happen in the near future.

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[TP]

The metro stations aren't really cut and cover though as, under the adjacent streets they are excavated underground. Over-station development is funding the metro stations. OSD is not unprecedented though. Wynyard Station is under Wynyard Park but also the NSW Railways new HQ was built over the Station in York Street, though not completed until 1936. It became Transport House when an extension incorporating all of the government transport functions was later built. St James and Museum were built cut and cover under Hyde Park. Circular Quay was built over the reclamation of the Sydney Cover waterfront. Interestingly, the design of Circular Quay is virtually replicated in the metro stations at Rouse Hill, Kellyville and Luddenham.

Tony P

[Greg Sutherland]

Transport House never incorporated "all of the government transport functions".  It was basically NSW Railways HQ and even then many NSWGR functions reported to Central Station.

For example the Board Room at Central still was extensively used even post World War II.

NSW Tramways and Government Buses were still headquartered at b99n Macquarie Stret.

Greg

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[TP]

That's not correct actually. When the Public Transport Commission was incorporated in 1972, Railway House became the headquarters for the whole public transport administration, except for private buses which continued under the regulation of the Department of Motor Transport (based at Rosebery) until 1989 when they came under Department of Transport. Railway House at Wynyard became Transport House. 99 Macquarie Street continued on for a while as a bus administrative office and I'm not sure when it was eventually vacated. When the PTC was separated into State Rail Authority and Urban Transit Authority (government buses and ferries), the Urban Transit Authority continued using Transport House as its HQ. The railways had several office locations, but Transport House was their HQ.

Tony P

[Dudley Horscroft]

ISTR that while the Western Suburbs railway platforms in St James were completed, tracks were originally laid and used for the storage of spare trains.  Later, however, this function ceased, and eventually the between platform apace was filled to improve the passenger circulation area.  This must have used an inordinate amount of concrete, but it had the function of making it very difficult to use the tracks for the Eastern Suburbs light rail from Oxford St to the Quay, had that eventuated.  This was I think shown in the book on the Sydney electric trains, and the proposals of Dr John Gerofi.

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 Dudley

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[peterm...@gmail.com]

I was referring to the hole in the ground at Central station charmers street, it was there for decades wasn't it?

[bblun...@yahoo.com]

The tram line closed for the works in 1948; the ESR line opened in 1979. The street may have been re-opened a couple of years before that.

Brian

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[peterm...@gmail.com]

Thanks Brian, that's a seriously long time to have a street out of action.  So this is not a new thing....