Missing transcluded tiddlers question

[David Gifford]

Hi all

When working in edit template for a long article, I tend to start out creating transclusions to tiddlers that will function as sections, but those tiddlers are not created yet. They are transclusions of missing tiddlers.

When I return to view template, there are no visible markers to show that there are transclusions to missing tiddlers (or to existing tiddlers with no content). And I may not want to create the tiddlers yet until I am ready to work on them at a later date.

I am wondering if there is a way to list all the tiddlers+missing that are transcluded in the current tiddler.

Or, a way to display a message like "missing transclusion of tiddler "X" click here to create" in view template so that those transclusions don't get overlooked.

[Mark S.]

I would use a macro that would display a message if the tiddler was absent or the contents if it wasn't. You could even make the "absent" message display a button that would allow you to create the tiddler and navigate to it.

[David Gifford]

Thanks Mark, but how would I get a list of the transclusions?

[Charlie Veniot]

https://tiddlywiki-programming.neocities.org/

Create a new tiddler.

In it, enter {{Blah blah blah || tAsDc }}

Save the tiddler.

You'll find visible markers when you pop open the Details Widget.  Look for the little fishy link in the top-right corner.

This is just the transclusion way of doing something, which can be done with a macro just as easily.  I just perfer transclusion.

Not for everybody, but that's what works for this kid.  I like transcluded stuff to appear inside a Details Widget.

[David Gifford]

Strange, I was able to open this on my phone earlier. But now at my computer I am getting a 404. But I was able to figure out the gist of it and reproduce what I need. Thanks a bunch!

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[Charlie Veniot]

Link is working fine for me right now, and haven't seen an errors throughout the day.  I have no idea why you would get a 404 error.

[David Gifford]

"Firefox can’t establish a connection to the server at tiddlywiki-programming.neocities.org."

Just now.

[David Gifford]

Chrome: " Your Internet access is blocked

Firewall or antivirus software may have blocked the connection."

[Charlie Veniot]

Sounds like your computer does not allow access to neocities.  Not sure why it would do that.  I know of nothing nefarious related to neocities.

[Charlie Veniot]

Are you using a work computer?  Could be the workplace firewall is blocking access.

[David Gifford]

I am in a hotel presently. Perhaps they are limiting access to certain sites? I will try when I get home tomorrow.

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[Charlie Veniot]

Unless your firewall is suspicious of a redirect....

Would you mind trying a direct link to the tiddlywiki for me, to see if I should always be providing direct links going forward:  https://tiddlywiki-programming.neocities.org/CJ_TiddlyWikiProgramming.html

Thanks !

[David Gifford]

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[CJ Veniot]

Yeah, sounds like your network firewall is blocking access to neocities.  I can't do anything about that.

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[TW Tones]

FYI neocities is a Hosting site. In the past I have seen it blocked because one of those sites is up to nefarious activities.  It should be blocking with regards to the subdomains not the top domain but some blacklisting does not take account of this.

Tones

[Charlie Veniot]

That makes sense.  Who knows what kind of nefarious junk can be sitting in any one subdomain.

Yeah, last I checked in with network folk in my old job, so much easier to blacklist an entire site and put all staff in a position of filing an exception for each subdomain.

Molasses-like process frustrating to folk like me in the application support trenches, but I understood the pains folk in the network/security trenches had to deal with.

Thanks Tones, much appreciated !

[TW Tones]

Charlie,

This was one motivation for me to go to my own hosting decades ago because my sites disappeared because of others bad behaviour a few times. Owning a domain also reduces this likelihood. 

However recently a clients site was blacklisted because of a hack in the microsoft email/outlook solution in 365 and I learned the hard way how to get off black lists. I can help professionally in this area (with a fee) or discuss at a high level if you want to go that way.

Tones

[Charlie Veniot]

Good stuff.  I'll keep that in mind should I find I need to make the move.  Thanks, Tones.