question from a new group member

[Klaas Vaak]

I am a new member to the group.

Can you tell me What is the maximum no. of tiddlers a TW file can accept?

[林东吴]

I've heard someone have html file up to GB...

If you are using local nodejs version , I think the only limit is computer memory.

If you are using SoLiD version with lazy loading, I think there will be no limit.

Klaas Vaak <klaas...@gmx.net> 于2020年4月9日周四 下午6:39写道：

I am a new member to the group.

Can you tell me What is the maximum no. of tiddlers a TW file can accept?

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[Mat]

With the basic package, it's free up to 100 tiddlers. Then the monthly service is $1 per ....  JUUUST kidding. 

Seriously, this has been asked before if you search the archives. But, in short, there is no real upper limit. It is more critical what you "do" with the tiddlers, i.e if you use calculation heavy stuff, particularly if you do this in "templates" that affect a lot of tiddlers. Do consider that (vanilla) TW is a single html file (a "web page") so this is what sets the limits. Asking how many tiddlers is like asking how many rectangles can a webpage have? :-)

<:-)

[Klaas Vaak]

@林东吴: what is “lazy loading”?

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[Klaas Vaak]

@Mat: I understand. I have no intention doing any “heavy stuf”, just text and links to images.

So, combining your answer with that of 林东吴, it seems to me there’ll be trouble.

Thanks guys for replying.

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[Mat]

Klaas Vaak wrote:

@林东吴: what is “lazy loading”?

See the docs: https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#LazyLoading

This is only a concern if you use the node.js version of TW. 

<:-)

[Mat]

Klaas Vaak wrote:

[...] it seems to me there’ll be trouble.

What would cause trouble?

<:-) 

[Klaas Vaak]

Soory Mat, I forgot the word “no” before trouble.

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[Klaas Vaak]

I mean “sorry” - duhhh

My apologies.

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[TonyM]

Klass,

I may just add too that it can depend on your data and the way you represent it that determines how many tiddlers you need as well. I suggest using independent tiddlers as much as you want to structure your tiddlywiki well. If at a later date you need to consolidate this you can restructure. For example in one of my wikis I have a few lists to select from that I have inside data tiddlers rather than a tiddler each. Also depending on how you use tags there is a tendency to have too many tags in use and these can be moved to alternative tag fields or represented in fields.

There are so many ways to optimise tiddlywiki including strategic redesigns  to address such needs. 

There are also various indexing mechanisms to support performance.

Regards

Tony 

[Sebastian Theilhaber]

Roughly 6.5k tiddlers, 9.6MB 2012 laptop, no probs.

On Thursday, April 9, 2020 at 8:39:22 PM UTC+10, Klaas Vaak wrote:

[Klaas Vaak]

TonyM, thanks for that. Yes, I realise I asked the equivalent of how long is a string. I was just trying to get some sort of feeling.

At this stage I don’t intend to have data tiddlers, just basic text ones, so I believe I will not have any problem at all.

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[Klaas Vaak]

Sebastian, many thanks. I even know now where to get the data you show in the table! Wow.

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[Sebastian Theilhaber]

I'm glad you found it helpful...

I would only caution to viciously backup... and backup the backup...

On Thursday, April 9, 2020 at 8:39:22 PM UTC+10, Klaas Vaak wrote:

[Klaas Vaak]

Yes, I am starting to realise backing up is maybe even more crucial than with “regular” apps and files.

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[TonyM]

Yes, I am starting to realise backing up is maybe even more crucial than with “regular” apps and files.

With such power comes responsibility :)