Getting TopRight to stay visible?

[stevesuny]

Hello folks,

I've made the leap -- and am now using TiddlyWiki5 as my home page (http://sunypoly.edu/~steve). I'm using a github repository, and doing a redirect from the University web server page to the github index.html page.

I'd like to work on the getting the TopRight menu to stay visible at all times, and also to color it in a distinctive way (without messing up the rest of the palette). I think I've resolved other issues: It should open with the side menu bar closed; when opened, the side menu bar should display contents. 

This is exciting for me, as it is the first time I've made a public-facing TiddlyWiki. Feel free to poke around and offer a full critique and assessment of my wiki.  (And perhaps check out the projects based on TiddlyWiki. I'll be sharing a broader announcement here soon that may provide additional explanation :).

//steve.

 

[Tobias Beer]

Hi steve,

This is exciting for me, as it is the first time I've made a public-facing TiddlyWiki. Feel free to poke around and offer a full critique and assessment of my wiki.  (And perhaps check out the projects based on TiddlyWiki. I'll be sharing a broader announcement here soon that may provide additional explanation :).

Congratulations, I also enjoy those moments of creating a "website" based on TiddlyWiki. So long as you don't depend on google all that much and rather just want a kind of "business card" / "cv-like resume" / "project overview" of sorts for people to point to and easy to maintain, that's fine.

A few things I would work on:

1. your site title and subtitle are not visible by default
• you may possibly want the title to be up top as in TW2
• compare to: Birthe's http://bc.classic.tiddlyspot.com/
2. I see you're using the basic "taggly" approach from tb5
• looking at some of the tiddlers that show the links I find duplication
• they also have a "navbar" tag which is possibly just confusing to visitors => "what's navbar?!?"
3. if you decide to hide the sidebar, I'd definitely not have instructions on using your site be the first thing a visitor reads
• e.g. how to toggle the sidebar
• I'd rather improve the content flow so that a user does not need a sidebar, except for you upon editing 
  
• e.g. have the toc be part of the landing page, as you have already done
• I don't think a public facing tiddlywiki should make visitors learn how to use one, unless that's its purpose
4. I don't think a visitor expects permaview by default, in other words I would not want to display those urls
• on the other hand, I always set my wikis to update the address bar to the permalink of the last opened tiddler
• after all, that was the "last page" looked at and thus a reasonable expectation to return to

I'd like to work on the getting the TopRight menu to stay visible at all times, and also to color it in a distinctive way (without messing up the rest of the palette). I think I've resolved other issues: It should open with the side menu bar closed; when opened, the side menu bar should display contents. 

Not sure what you mean, I can see a menu at the top right with your two buttons "visible at all times". If not that, what else are you after?

What's your intention for coloring? Personally, I like things plain and simple, with the least amount of noise, unless noise was the intention.

Best wishes,

— tb

[stevesuny]

Hi Tobias thanks so much for the detailed response. I've continued working on it (most every day, of course), and I think it is getting better. I'm working through your suggestions, and have implemented some of them.

I'd like to implement the "Header" strategy suggested by Birthe's http://bc.classic.tiddlyspot.com/ -- I see how he built [[Header]] but don't see how he gets it to stay visible. Any help or guidance would be appreciated.

//steve.

[Steve Schneider]

Of course, I figured it out after posting this. I've discovered that by tagging a tiddler as $:/tags/AboveStory the text of the tiddler is displayed as a sort of header, above the story (which is the set of  "all visible tiddlers", I think).

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[Birthe C]

Hi Steve Schneider,

Tiddler  $:/_header is tagged $:/tags/PageTemplate. Header is trancluded into t his. I found it easier to edit that way.

Birthe (she not he)

[stevesuny]

Hi Birthie, thanks for the response. I also discovered tagging a tiddler with $:/tags/TopLeftBar puts it in the TopLeftBar, which seems to do what I want most of the time. What do you think is the difference between transcluding the "header" tiddler directly through PageTemplate or indirectly through tagging with $:/tags/TopLeftBar? 

//steve.

[Birthe C]

Hi Steve Schneider,

I did that because I am using a Header for the title and subtitle and a Topmenu for the buttons. http://bc.classic,tiddlyspot.com  if you open the tiddlers tagged $:/tags/PageTemplate, you will see big coloured lines across the screen (not only on the top). It was easier for me to edit the content that way. Also I wanted to colour the background.

Birthe