TiddlyWiki Hangout #102 will be on Thursday 5th January 2017 at 5pm GMT

[Jeremy Ruston]

Apologies for the short notice, but I hope you will be able to join me for TiddlyWiki Hangout #102 on Thursday 5th January 2017 at 5pm GMT/UTC. You are welcome to take part as a guest or you can view the proceedings live or at a later date from the archive; I'll post the links here just before the scheduled start time.

Please let me know if there's anything you'd particularly like to see discussed.

Best wishes

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[Jed Carty]

I won't be able to be around for the first half hour or so, but I will be there. I am trying to put some polish on the invoice maker I have been using so I may show that off a bit if I don't have enough to talk about with twederation.

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Jed

I won't be able to be around for the first half hour or so, but I will be there. I am trying to put some polish on the invoice maker I have been using so I may show that off a bit if I don't have enough to talk about with twederation.

Sounds great, I hope you can make it.

Best wishes

Jeremy.

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[Mat]

Sorry to say I won't make it this time. Will listen to the recording later.

I would also not have much to bring to the table. (Not that one has to, to participate). However, I'm hoping to hear @Jed drop a few words on his latest TWederation advancements and it would be terrific if el @Danielo could make a live NoteSelf demo. Maybe the sprung up documentation initiatives could be commented on too?

If Mario is there, there was much excitement a while ago when he experimented with some ways to CSS tiddlers without using tc-tagged. I would love to hear a bit on why this was not accepted in core (or do I misunderstand something). It seemed so promising.

Thank you!

<:-)

[Evan Balster]

I'll be chiming in this meeting about dataflow programming and making TiddlyWiki more useful for detailed number-crunching tasks.  I'm interested in using TW-like workflows for things like interactive math, data visualization, story chronologies, game systems, planning and work logging.

For one of my past projects I designed and implemented a dynamic dataflow programming language dealing in audio, video and numeric information...  After doing it once, I've got some developed idea on dataflow architecture and its pitfalls.  I'm very interested to collide this with TiddlyWiki!

[Arlen Beiler]

I may show up. Would love to hear any comments or suggestions about StackExchange that anyone may have.

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[Matthew Lauber]

I'd be interested in figuring out how to use TWederation to essentially have shadow tiddlers that load their data from another wiki on startup.  Could be used as a sort of auto update mechanism for shared templates or plugins.  I started playing with it, but I couldn't get everything sorted.

Matt

[Jeremy Ruston]

TiddlyWiki Hangout #102 is about to start

Watch at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKRDRgQq5cE

Join in at https://hangouts.google.com/hangouts/_/ytl/c0WxpQtPxfx8zEwF2Tx1Efgz4TE4JV2oXv90lY-Ba7w=

Best wishes

Jeremy

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[Dmitry Sokolov]

Dear All,
thank you very much for sharing ideas on the hangouts today.
Exploiting my favourite FRD idea ("Findability / Discoverability for Reuse") and for helping us organise, where do we keep our announcements for the next events, please?
It would be great to keep all the links on the topic on the same page, TiddlyWiki Hangouts, for example, for visibility.
Cheers,
Dmitry

[Evan Balster]

Dmitry, it seems like you didn't quite get a chance to fully explain your situation and needs with this userbase you're interested in transitioning to TiddlyWiki.  Could you expand on those a little more here?

– Evan Balster

creator of imitone

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[Francis Meetze]

I've been trucking along quite nicely using TiddlyWiki as a secure replacement for Google Notes.  There were quite a few ideas presented in the program that caught me by surprise.  For me, TiddlyWiki is shifting from more of a novelty to a viable paradigm change in app design.  Already it appears to be taking on the characteristics of a news framework similar to Wordpress or Django.  

I appreciated the heads up on the Beaker browser too.  Non-centralized communication will definitely be a contender to the largest innovators of our time simply because there is no legal or technological space for regulating it.

Evan brought out some points that I've contended with in working with TiddlyWiki.  Not everyone who uses TiddlyWiki enters the the ring with the same background or skill sets.  Programmers are looking for familiar syntax while the majority of the general public is looking for more WYSIWYG interfacing.  As this project moves along, I see Tiddler interpreters branching out.

On that note, I've recently been reading some of the theory around OpenCog.  I wonder if there could be any correlation between the data models in use there and all the Tiddlers we are manually linking logically together via Tags.  Evan made me think of this when he mentioned how he was contemplating how the Tiddlers would talk to each other for certain assignments.  Maybe in the future, tags wouldn't even be necessary?

On Thursday, January 5, 2017 at 1:41:29 PM UTC-8, Evan Balster wrote:

Dmitry, it seems like you didn't quite get a chance to fully explain your situation and needs with this userbase you're interested in transitioning to TiddlyWiki.  Could you expand on those a little more here?

– Evan Balster

creator of imitone

On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 2:20 PM, Dmitry Sokolov <dmitry.v...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear All,
thank you very much for sharing ideas on the hangouts today.
Exploiting my favourite FRD idea ("Findability / Discoverability for Reuse") and for helping us organise, where do we keep our announcements for the next events, please?
It would be great to keep all the links on the topic on the same page, TiddlyWiki Hangouts, for example, for visibility.
Cheers,
Dmitry

On Thursday, 5 January 2017 09:26:53 UTC+13, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

Apologies for the short notice, but I hope you will be able to join me for TiddlyWiki Hangout #102 on Thursday 5th January 2017 at 5pm GMT/UTC. You are welcome to take part as a guest or you can view the proceedings live or at a later date from the archive; I'll post the links here just before the scheduled start time.

Please let me know if there's anything you'd particularly like to see discussed.

Best wishes

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mailto:jeremy...@gmail.com

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[Dmitry Sokolov]

Evan, thank you for the question.

LikeInMind (LiM) is a Knowledge Network of interconnected concepts, ideas, textual and visual representation of mental images, anything that makes sense and helps each particular user in finding any particular information published at LiM by any participant within a few seconds of time (Findability).

LikeInMind Knowledge Network is a network of personal associations recorded on the Web. Like In Mind, our associations can interconnect even seemingly irrelevant matters and event. That's how we can come to the idea of Units of Knowledge, chunks of information capable to describing and representing anything: Anything is a Tiddler. A size of every chunk of information depends on the particular association it represents. It can be as small as a symbol, a sound, a pixel, a note, and as big as a novel, a record, an image, a video or a symphony.

LiM is a kind of External Memory, as demonstrated on the examples of Semantic Encoding of Japanese characters (Semantic Encoding of Kanji), images (Semantic Encoding of Images) and many other mental images and cultural artefacts.

Currently, LiM is hosted on PBWorks. PBWorks is probably the best platform for fast prototyping of a system of this kind. However, it also has huge limitations not allowing LiM team to realise P2P Collective Intelligence platform being conceptually developed within about 10 years. The requirements to P2PCI are being collected here: http://confocal-manawatu.pbworks.com/w/page/16346998/Atomized%20Information%20Management%20System

TWederation is one of the most promising platform for P2PCI applications.

I am looking for a way of a seamless transfer of LiM on TW platform as soon as it is show reliable in supporting these features:

- easiness of use

- versions control

- multi-user co-working, synchronous or asynchronous that leads to

- notification on tiddlers change / federation, real-time or on demand / on opening a page of interest.

Sorry for the long text again.

I think, we are on the same or very similar track with the TW Community.

Dear All, I am looking forward to your reply and support.

Cheers,

Dmitry

On Friday, 6 January 2017 10:41:29 UTC+13, Evan Balster wrote:

Dmitry, it seems like you didn't quite get a chance to fully explain your situation and needs with this userbase you're interested in transitioning to TiddlyWiki.  Could you expand on those a little more here?

– Evan Balster

creator of imitone

On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 2:20 PM, Dmitry Sokolov <dmitry.v...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear All,
thank you very much for sharing ideas on the hangouts today.
Exploiting my favourite FRD idea ("Findability / Discoverability for Reuse") and for helping us organise, where do we keep our announcements for the next events, please?
It would be great to keep all the links on the topic on the same page, TiddlyWiki Hangouts, for example, for visibility.
Cheers,
Dmitry

On Thursday, 5 January 2017 09:26:53 UTC+13, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

Apologies for the short notice, but I hope you will be able to join me for TiddlyWiki Hangout #102 on Thursday 5th January 2017 at 5pm GMT/UTC. You are welcome to take part as a guest or you can view the proceedings live or at a later date from the archive; I'll post the links here just before the scheduled start time.

Please let me know if there's anything you'd particularly like to see discussed.

Best wishes

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Jeremy Ruston
mailto:jeremy...@gmail.com

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