TiddlyWiki Development Plans

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Dmitry Sokolov

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Dec 27, 2016, 4:08:55 PM12/27/16
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Dear All,

would you have a link on a page with the TiddlyWiki Development Plans, please?
Versioning and multi-user co-working features is of my current interest as they would allow LikeInMind Knowledge Network transition to the TiddlyWiki format, ASAP. :)

This thread is interlinked with the LikeInMind page on the topic:
http://confocal-manawatu.pbworks.com/w/page/114118636/TiddlyWiki%20Development%20Plans

Cheers,
Dmitry

Mat

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Dec 27, 2016, 6:38:27 PM12/27/16
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On Tuesday, December 27, 2016 at 10:08:55 PM UTC+1, Dmitry Sokolov wrote:
Dear All,

would you have a link on a page with the TiddlyWiki Development Plans, please?

I'd' say it is all rather whimsical, for good and for bad. The 'bad' is obvious but the 'good' is that you can affect it yourself; The more you participate in some matter and the more you keep it in the frontal lobe of people, the more likely it is that you catch the interest of fellow community members. People are also generally helpful if you ask for help on specific matters that you're attempting to create.

Note that much development takes place as non-official plugins, i.e plugins that are not officially endorsed on tiddlywiki.com

There is however some kind of ephemeral idea of a plan. Possibly clearer than my own impression of it. One of the later hangouts was dedicated to this, maybe 3-4 hangouts ago. You can look in the hangout agendas or even search here in the archives for "finishing TW5" or "finish TW5" or something along those lines.

This unpredictability is one of the costs for getting this incredible tool for free.

<:-)

Dmitry Sokolov

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Dec 27, 2016, 7:24:23 PM12/27/16
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Thank you Mat!


People are also generally helpful if you ask for help on specific matters that you're attempting to create.
I thought that the "opposite" approach would work, by capturing people's intents and co-ordinating their work:
http://confocal-manawatu.pbworks.com/w/page/114069763/TiddlyWiki%20Intents%20Map
 Seems not working either... :)


Note that much development takes place as non-official plugins, i.e plugins that are not officially endorsed on tiddlywiki.com .
All plugins I am going through are being captured on LiM: TiddlyWiki Plugins
not only to the convenience of TW community but for the reusability at my projects too.


This unpredictability is one of the costs for getting this incredible tool for free.
I think, that's a matter of trust and focusing on a team's goal. A group of people can be as organised or as chaotic as they want to. You are absolutely right about

The more you participate in some matter and the more you keep it in the frontal lobe of people, the more likely it is that you catch the interest of fellow community members.
but that doesn't work either, in my experience on other forums. If accessibility to particular knowledge is not valued in this particular group, it will never be achieved. :)
Here is the example recorded on LiM, TiddlyWiki Criticism:
"28Dec16 Accessibility to Particular Topics on TiddlyWiki was deleted from the "Conveying: Moans about poor documentation" thread on by moderators without any reasoning given "
We will see.

Would you give me a link on the hangouts list, please? Search through the archive gave me nothing but frustration. :)
If tiddlers are not organised, they are not likely to be found...

Cheers,
Dmitry

Mat

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Dec 28, 2016, 3:01:19 AM12/28/16
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People are also generally helpful if you ask for help on specific matters that you're attempting to create.
I thought that the "opposite" approach would work, by capturing people's intents and co-ordinating their work:
http://confocal-manawatu.pbworks.com/w/page/114069763/TiddlyWiki%20Intents%20Map
 Seems not working either... :)

Well, that seems like a good idea. If you promote it for a few months and carefully note down the interests of people here on the boards you might have some impact. I don't know. And it would be hard to measure. (But it is clearly not enough to note down 2-3 names and wait 4 days).

Here's a third route for consideration; jump on the current "documentation" bandwagon with Reddit and StackExchange (...and more?). You're free to push your agendas in the form of public questions and answers there.

 
The more you participate in some matter and the more you keep it in the frontal lobe of people, the more likely it is that you catch the interest of fellow community members.
but that doesn't work either, in my experience on other forums. If accessibility to particular knowledge is not valued in this particular group, it will never be achieved. :)

Maybe it's just not the particular knowledge that you're after? Regardless, sure, if your issues trigger a desire among those who are capable of developing stuff then of course they will do so. Not easy to inspire non-paid free-thinkers to see the world in a particular way though ;-)

 
Here is the example recorded on LiM, TiddlyWiki Criticism:
"28Dec16 Accessibility to Particular Topics on TiddlyWiki was deleted from the "Conveying: Moans about poor documentation" thread on by moderators without any reasoning given "

I'd say it is VERY unlikely that the moderators would delete that post and more likely there was some error or mistake made somewhere.
 

If tiddlers are not organised, they are not likely to be found...

Sounds like you should join in the current documentation efforts.


<:-)

Dmitry Sokolov

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Dec 28, 2016, 5:56:56 AM12/28/16
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Nothing like that worked on me Mat.

I will be building the doc portal the way I used to, helping others when I can and just hope some help will come in return, or may be even in advance!! :)
"Not easy to inspire non-paid free-thinkers to see the world in a particular way" - true! :)
We can do only what can be done.
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