Re: [tw] Besies GTD and eBooks
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Jeremy Ruston
Jun 19, 2015, 4:40:21 AM6/19/15
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Hi Atul
I'd echo your suggestion about resumes/CVs. One could imagine a TW edition that guided the user through questions to compile their information, and then offered a "print" button that used 5.1.9's "open in new window" to open a clean, printable version of the resume.
Best wishes
Jeremy
On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 1:09 PM, Atul Grover <atulg...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello All--
Mass adoption of TW5 can come (besides others) from
CVs for Job Application
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/tiddlywiki/CV/tiddlywiki/8260n0hoDuQ/CeG6E5R2ziQJ
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/tiddlywiki/CV/tiddlywiki/-ABbF7G4qhM/497fbiTyNQoJ
Business Proposals
http://visual.ly/business-proposal
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Jed Carty
Jun 19, 2015, 5:47:32 PM6/19/15
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This turned into something much longer than I intended, but I think it is relevant.
I am putting together an interactive resume/portfolio site using TiddlyWiki. A complaint that I have always had with resumes is that it is almost impossible to put all, or even most, of the relevant information into one and have it readable. One of the things that I like so much about TiddlyWiki is that it is one of the first tools that I have come across that actually tries to use the new capabilities of a digital medium instead of just translating older media into a digital format. Unfortunately conveying that idea to people seems to be a very difficult task, even to people who are familiar with technology. Even when working with other graduate students doing novel research the prevailing attitude seems to be that having a solution means that finding other solutions is pointless, and when trying to improve something the only things to consider are along already established metrics and ideas. A friend of mine who like to make new things and uses TiddlyWiki classic a lot described it as 'a stack of index cards with all the associated metadata', which is an incredibly powerful and useful tool, but if you define tiddlywiki like that than you are ignoring most of what it can do. While one of the biggest contributions from tiddlywiki is its indexing ability its power comes from mixing that indexing ability with the capabilities of a browser and javascript. Finding new things that are possible with that mixture is where we will find the most useful applications, not just using tiddlywiki as a tool that allows us to do what we could already do in a better and more efficient manner. Wikipedia is the example I generally use. It is a searchable and expandable encyclopedia with good cross referencing and indexing, but the ideas it uses aren't fundamentally different than a normal encyclopedia with a good index. The goal of making an encyclopedia the best that it can be is very useful, but if you frame the task like that than it is also very limiting.
That being said, using tiddlywiki to do existing tasks more efficiently is a great use for it, and probably the fastest way to attract new users. I just don't think that using it that way is where we will find the best applications.
As a more immediate response, for my resume tiddlywiki I am putting in everything relevant and tagging it appropriately so it can be automatically sorted and indexed for easy navigation (that is if I can get a reasonable interface for it). I think that we could make a resume builder edition that guides you through a similar process and then since there is limited space on a resume you can have checklists for each section you would like on your resume where you pick the items most relevant for whatever job you are using it for and have templates that automatically put together a presentable resume tiddler that is automatically populated with correct typesetting. Or generate LaTeX code if you want something fancier.
I am putting together an interactive resume/portfolio site using TiddlyWiki. A complaint that I have always had with resumes is that it is almost impossible to put all, or even most, of the relevant information into one and have it readable. One of the things that I like so much about TiddlyWiki is that it is one of the first tools that I have come across that actually tries to use the new capabilities of a digital medium instead of just translating older media into a digital format. Unfortunately conveying that idea to people seems to be a very difficult task, even to people who are familiar with technology. Even when working with other graduate students doing novel research the prevailing attitude seems to be that having a solution means that finding other solutions is pointless, and when trying to improve something the only things to consider are along already established metrics and ideas. A friend of mine who like to make new things and uses TiddlyWiki classic a lot described it as 'a stack of index cards with all the associated metadata', which is an incredibly powerful and useful tool, but if you define tiddlywiki like that than you are ignoring most of what it can do. While one of the biggest contributions from tiddlywiki is its indexing ability its power comes from mixing that indexing ability with the capabilities of a browser and javascript. Finding new things that are possible with that mixture is where we will find the most useful applications, not just using tiddlywiki as a tool that allows us to do what we could already do in a better and more efficient manner. Wikipedia is the example I generally use. It is a searchable and expandable encyclopedia with good cross referencing and indexing, but the ideas it uses aren't fundamentally different than a normal encyclopedia with a good index. The goal of making an encyclopedia the best that it can be is very useful, but if you frame the task like that than it is also very limiting.
That being said, using tiddlywiki to do existing tasks more efficiently is a great use for it, and probably the fastest way to attract new users. I just don't think that using it that way is where we will find the best applications.
As a more immediate response, for my resume tiddlywiki I am putting in everything relevant and tagging it appropriately so it can be automatically sorted and indexed for easy navigation (that is if I can get a reasonable interface for it). I think that we could make a resume builder edition that guides you through a similar process and then since there is limited space on a resume you can have checklists for each section you would like on your resume where you pick the items most relevant for whatever job you are using it for and have templates that automatically put together a presentable resume tiddler that is automatically populated with correct typesetting. Or generate LaTeX code if you want something fancier.
Jed Carty
Jun 19, 2015, 8:39:16 PM6/19/15
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Because I was thinking about this and needed a break from my other work I put a very quick resume builder together. It needs options for selectively displaying sections and items in each section, and a way to reorder sections and add custom sections. And to change fonts and whatnot. But the basic thing is here.
Alex Hough
Jun 20, 2015, 1:27:02 AM6/20/15
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Great stuff Jed,
Alex
Because I was thinking about this and needed a break from my other work I put a very quick resume builder together. It needs options for selectively displaying sections and items in each section, and a way to reorder sections and add custom sections. And to change fonts and whatnot. But the basic thing is here.
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Jeremy Ruston
Jun 20, 2015, 4:56:00 AM6/20/15
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Hi Jed
> Because I was thinking about this and needed a break from my other work I put a very quick resume builder together. It needs options for selectively displaying sections and items in each section, and a way to reorder sections and add custom sections. And to change fonts and whatnot. But the basic thing is here.
That's yet another very deftly done piece of work, I continue to be impressed at the apparent ease with which you turn out these things. It looks great, and is exactly the kind of thing that I think would make a terrific edition. Perhaps we could work on preparing it as a pull request when you're ready?
It reminds me of a similar thing that Paul Downey built when we were at Osmosoft.
You may be able to re-use some of Paul's CSS.
Best wishes
Jeremy.
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Alex Hough
Jun 20, 2015, 5:20:12 AM6/20/15
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I think it has a multitude of uses: //pro forma// document. In combination with the open in new window feature you could copy and paste the finish the text into the format of someoneelse's choice: pdf, .doc docx. etc
It might be a bitt of a stretch, but if the wizard could features to record answers to a questionnaire-- check boxes, or sliders-- producing something like OMM (1) I produced (with a lot of commuity help)
Alex
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Danielo Rodríguez
Jun 20, 2015, 11:25:01 AM6/20/15
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It's curious to see how many people think about using tiddlywiky for resumes. I have plans to use tw to create my resume online. This is different, and I think it can help many people creating readable resumes. Very well done. TW it's awesome.
Atul Grover
Jun 20, 2015, 4:28:32 PM6/20/15
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Hi All,
Using tiddlywiki as a PHOTO ALBUM would surely have a mass appeal (imo). I am planning a vacation and was wondering if i could load TW5 on my phone and click images straight into TW5 and share it as an album with my friends!!!
Regards
Atul
Using tiddlywiki as a PHOTO ALBUM would surely have a mass appeal (imo). I am planning a vacation and was wondering if i could load TW5 on my phone and click images straight into TW5 and share it as an album with my friends!!!
Regards
Atul
Atul Grover
Jun 22, 2015, 2:36:04 PM6/22/15
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Great stuff JED... Your resume builder is exactly what is needed...
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