[discussion] Titles in tiddlywiki

[TW Tones]

Folks,

I just wanted to start a thread on titles in tiddlywiki. One reason is I am raising this is I personally never have trouble finding a suitable title, I rarely need to rename one where it will cause an issue, but others find this perplexing and difficult. I also have two ideas I believe we should pursue as a community. So hopefully we can discuss these here;

1. Share Tips and tricks in handling naming tiddler titles
2. I propose we investigate introducing some tools to help automate tiddler naming that we can then manually override. An example may be child tiddlers being given automatic names, but there may be other tricks available
3. Drag and drop from other tiddlers, wikis, text and links can create new tiddlers. This is rapid way of capturing content. I would like to investigate automated tools to take a title such as one containing http (because it was a dropped URL) move the title to an appropriate field, create a link and propose a new tiddler title. Keeping in mind that we can parse titles to establish are they email addresses, permalinks, filters, search urls and much more. 

Perhaps respond with references to the above list numbers. We can start other threads in needed.

Tones

[TW Tones]

Example of 3.

https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/yw51tANUCKI is a link to this discussion

• a tiddlewr titles "https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/yw51tANUCKI" is not easy to read, but is created if I drop this link on a wiki.
• Any title prefixed " https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki"  is a google group discussion, so copy the full title to a link field called discussion and keep the title " c/yw51tANUCKI " ready for you to rename with the thread title.

Tones

[Anjar]

Hi,

I'm not sure this is what you want to discuss, but why do titles need to be unique? Aren't these examples kind of equivalent

[[aTitle]] -> <$button><$list filter="[title[aTitle]]"><$action-navigate $to=<<currentTiddler>> /></$list>aTitle</$button>

{{aTitle}} -> <$list filter="[title[aTitle]get[text]]"><<currentTiddler>></$list>

{{aTitle!!aField}} -> <$list filter="[title[aTitle]get[aField]]"><<currentTiddler>></$list>

I see that there is a problem with templates that have to be unique

However, if titles don't have to be unique, then we can think - why not make the standard field (now title) customizable?

Best,

Anders

[PMario]

Hi,

A very basic feature in TW relies on unique titles. .. Shadow tiddlers.

The behaviour of shadow tiddlers, is one of the very powerful unique features in TW.

It's a USP, if you will.

-mario